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once you visit, you'll never forget it. a quarter between transformation and exploitation patter, combined to modern day present with the traditional task to none of my friends has died. that sort of thing does happen some times between education and tradition. between cosmopolitan fleer and captivating wilderness. the portrait of the desert state full of contradictions, guitar starts november 11th on d, w. the death of a young iranian woman in police custody, a sponsor weeks of violent protest in iran and around the world. the u. n. an independent human rights groups of accused iranian security forces of brutal suppression. where does that leave attempts to restart the 2015 nuclear deal, which the us says is no longer their focus were hammered. mirandi professor at
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terre round university and political analyst. but we all know that the whole process is politicized. but the iranians are what more than willing to solve the issue. if the americans are determined to have a deal. dr. mirandi blames the western nato for aggravating the protest. and how catalogue of aggression against iran and other countries in the region, and us pay round denies supplying drones to moscow. who site does he take in the ukraine, russia war? ah, mohammed moran, the welcome to conflict own. a couple of weeks ago you tried to minimize the importance of the whole protest movement in iran. you said it had died down after 3 or 4 days. and that wasn't true, was it? because 2 days ago and 6 weeks since they began, the protests were reported in at least 7 cities, including mashhad, iraq, zahida on my bad, and puts in a wrong, they're not dying down at all of a. know,
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i didn't try to do anything. i said the truth, the protest in the 1st couple of days who are larger and they were in different cities. and they were partially because a persian language media in london mostly, but also in other western countries lied at the very beginning. and they claimed that the young lady massa was beaten to death. and so many people thought that this was a case of police brutality. i also thought that that may have been the case, but then laid around later on the footage came out and it showed that she had left the police van. she wasn't even handcuffed. she wasn't holding her head, she didn't show any signs of physical pain. she went into a hall and sat there, and after a while she stood up, spoke to someone, and then suddenly collapse. the autopsy. what showed there are many physicians
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involved, that there was no physical abuse and even there is a clip of her father beside her body where he said that there is no sign of abuse. so persian language, media funded by western government and the saudis, many of them base in london were provoking to be run in public. but after a few days, the protest died down, but then we had the rise of very violent riots. and that's exactly what i said, well, let's talk about the violence in the right. the un committee has had un committee on the rights of the child has had plenty to say about that. it strongly condemned what he called grave violations of children's rights in iran. according to reliable reports of some children was shot with live ammunition, others died as a result of beatings. many families reported that despite grieving for the loss of
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a child, they were pressured to absolve security forces by declaring that children had committed suicide and making false confessions. that's a pretty sick tactic for your government to employ, isn't it? no, that's a pretty thick tactic for the western media. and any institutions that on the, under the influence of the western media to use, we're talking about the u. k. on the rights of hey dialed when we committed. we're talking about a u. s. committee. let's not watching that. let him, let's not talk about any un committee. let's talk about the us and how they put the saudis on a blacklist and remove them 72 hours later. the u. s. has no credibility here. and this is, this is fake. the the claimed to i, i've tweeted about this the, the number of police officers that were murdered over the last few weeks at the instigation of media base in your countries. they are,
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they are roughly 28 or 29. some of them were shot with guns. don't talk, let's not talk about fake news. all these young children being killed all over the place. that's nonsense. show. show me the footage. why. why not? instead of these organizations that are funded by the united states. why, why is it known to his an organization? and i don't know what that will be funded by the united states. this last weekend. the coordinating council of teachers in iran code for a nationwide strike to protest the crackdown on children that same teachers organization said playing close police attacked the shy head school in the northwest at that bill province 10 pupils were injured badly enough to be hospitalized parents of the children were also attacked. you really think that your government going off to children and killing i'm the numbers of demonstrators is going to stop this on rest. so you're withdrawing the fake claim. i'm not going to
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kill that. that school, right. i'm not with joy. yeah, the media, the claim in the the claim in the western media, the filthy claim in the western media and the filthy claim in the persian language, media funded by your government. your government was that a girl was murdered at that school and then it turned out that that girl didn't even go to that school. and she died because of found of a family tragedy. but your government and those iranian organizes are so called iranian organization funded by your government in the west make such fake claims so that the global public opinion would turn against iran. and they make those claims in iran because you have more persian language media directed towards iranians. and iranian government has so when you're emmy k terrace organization, that's based in europe and has a huge camp in albania,
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with thousands of people. he being acting as trolls their day and these people they fought alongside saddam hussein against their own country. they killed 17000 iranians during the 1982 assassination attacks through bomb attacks. these are the people who are spreading on the side on mine, or i noted your governments. i notice you don't want to address the violence and the violence which and the brutality of some of your security forces. i'm just the last time i with the address i'm the international has reported widespread torture, severe beatings of protest as an onlookers, even sexual violence against women by your security forces. you think the people will forgive the leaders for this shocking brutality. know people will not forgive your leaders for interfering in our internal affairs and for anyone else in
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person language media. i'm speaking tim, i'm speaking don't try to run out the clock. so it's your persian language media and your troll farms and your governments that are spreading misinformation both in persian and in english across the globe. the that the police officers that were killed in iran, 28 or 29 police officers. as far as i know during that period were killed people who are policing the street. if you have such numbers were killed in your country, what would be the response of your government? but what, what your persian language media was doing during this period with encouraging people rioters, to attack the police to get revenge, as they called it on police. they were telling people to make molotov cocktails, if off come, if this, if any of this was in english. and if it was directed to an english audience off. com which shut down those tv stations within minutes. but in your case,
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you can use it against your own because your governments are waging war against the right people. your governments don't give a damn about human rights. your governments are the ones who impose maximum pressure on women and children in this country and try to start them to death and then use media warfare against the country to create divisions. dr. dr. mirandi mirandi talk of running out of the clock. i've given you a couple of minutes to 3 minutes. isn't a time to face facts that iranians and a lot of the iranians are angry at your government. the head of iran's semi official is pub polling center. medi buddy says a considerable majority of iranians. how about anger towards the islamic republic? a factor he says, which is at a dangerous level, every time that be widespread protests they said, subside only superficially, while the anger piles up, none of this is going away, is it? none of this is going away. and you say it's all the west fault. come on,
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tim. we have, we have many holding institutions in iran and western pulling institutions. and the popular legitimacy of the army republic of iran is 2nd to none in this region. your despotic eyes in this region tell more than enough about your government. any iran just 3 years ago, less than 3 years ago after your leader, you're the leader of the so called free world murder general sunday morning, we saw how many millions of people went to the streets in teheran. so let's not pretend that the truth is anything that it is. let's, let's speak fact. of course there is dissatisfaction in iran. there's always this sad excite dissatisfaction in iran. you can go into taxi now, 5 years ago, 10 years ago. you can spend your time and tear on that. exactly. the fact that it shows the fact that in iran, people can speak their mind, but can they do that in saudi arabia? can they do that?
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and many other parts of the world can people like me to easily do that and get a job in your government in your country? why do you keep putting it out? why do you play the, what about gay? what about in britain? what about saudi arabia? why don't we just stay with iran? is that so difficult? now i told you and tell me about you. yeah, not because you know when that use chemical when you are i don't. yes we are because you have no credibility. you do, you work for the german government funds, your channels you sent me got you think you want me and get right. government gathered me. why don't the on the international space, really, these protests that you said died down have now spread delete. they are not to actors saying you're not. the people who are admired, followed, and have nothing to do with policy. well,
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all you're not in the top and inside him i the, we're not in our league. you're not in our lea. don't run out the cock him, you're not in our league. you're a government, the government that funds you that gives you the opportunities to speak to me. your government, gas, me twice. where, where, where are you? you are working at the b, b, c. back then you and your thirty's. when i was gas wise, where were you when they were gas? you don't talk about credibility. you don't have credibility, your television station doesn't have credibility. your government doesn't have credibility in the european union, doesn't have credibility. so don't talk down to iran, you like joseph for out. you take care of your guardian and we'll live in our jungle. you're entitled to your views, doctor mandy. but even among your own politicians, we're seeing the 1st signs of open descent over the government methods with these demonstrations. former speaker parliamentary larry johnny questioning the use of
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force saying the police should not be use to encourage the wearing of the he job. he's calling for a cultural solution. iranian society, he said, needs more tolerance. don't you agree with that? so you're admitting that any iran we have open debate. so you're admitting that we have all sorts of voices in iran. so you're admitting that we have different people who argue with iran and fight with each other in parliament outside of parliament in government at universities. yes, that is a part of you run it. that has always been a part of iran post revolution, not pre, but i will the revolution when your guys are in charge, but post revolution in fact, and this is something that will continue, but you can continue as you have been, as your colleagues have been as western media has been saying for the last 4 years that this nomic republic of iran is about to implode. it is corrupted as unpopular people hated if collapsing, of course, iraq and paradoxically,
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it's also growing menace. i don't know how, how you can have both at the same time where it's on the one hand it's unpopular, it's hated and it's collapsing. but on the other hand, it's a growing menace and a growing threat to the world. but for, for decades now, you run has been about to collapse and i think for the next 4 decades, we're going to be hearing the same wishful thinking in the western media and western thing tanks again. but let me try putting the question again. don't you think iranian society needs more tolerance? it's that simple. grab an answer. iranian society, iranian society always needs a more tolerance. iranian society that needs better government management. iranian society always deserves better. and that's what we have to strive to do. and so it is your society and your society needs more tolerance and your society should show and your government should show a bit of humility and apologize for the crimes that it is committed to my people.
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and people like yourself should show more tolerance and have more open mind about those of us who live in the jungle. oh play as burrell says, oh, please don't, don't take the moral high ground when your government is supporting. marsha, i'll aside in syria. oh, i have been one of the biggest killers and torture is in the middle. you speak, please don't take the moral high ground. dr. mirandi. i think you'll find that difficult. you're revolutionary. well, i read you. there's no one out the clock. could you put a question to you and i put a question to your revolutionary god, does you, did you already did all the protests as sedition? major general, how saying seller me this addition will be a stillborn baby and will go down in history as a disgrace. for america, how helpful do you think that is in trying to address legitimate grievances of people? don't make
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a point and then change the topic so you can get away with it. your government, nato supported al qaeda in 2011 and 12. when i went to the western media and said that our car outside is fighting, it's here. you said that they said, these are conspiracy theories. this is nonsense. well, later on we saw wiki leaks who had is now in jail. the most famous political prisoner in the world in london wiki league said that according to jack sullivan, the current nation, us national security advisor, he sent an email to hillary clinton, the head of the state department. at that time, that in syria, al qaeda is on our side. no, it's your government, and your government said though the worst murderers in human history and in contemporary history, then we have the u. s. defense intelligence agency document of 2012. we set a solid entity regional countries allied to the united states are trying to create
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a solid cas entity between syrian rock while who, what is that, what was that entity? it was isis. and then general flynn at that time said that the that they were determined and the united states allow for that entity. ok. okay. okay, no no, no, no, no. let me question, let me finish. let me finish. not a lecture, let them know that me finish. i asked you to share, you don't want them done that in a private conversation, you're afraid you won't, you're afraid questions. go ask your question my, my quote, your grade, my question for you we lead back on damascus. that could have been a different approach by the go to this on rescue, the like the one suggested by 5, leading iranian economists earlier this month, who said the authorities should listen to the demonstrators and prepare for fundamental change. is there anybody inside the government who is preparing for
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fundamental change in your view? first of all, when going back to the previous question, the garth and whoever and anyone else who spoke about sedition, they were not talking about protesters. so don't try to twist their worth. they were talking about those groups that are funded by the united states in iraqi kurdistan, that they have military camp there. and they carry out operations in iran. they are talking about those organizations alongside the no man's land and pockets on baluchistan that fund are funded by your government or the united states and its allies and carry out operations in iran. they're talking about those m u k. terris, that your government allowed to function across europe that have killed many thousands of iranians and acted as foot soldiers for saddam hussein, who are active in iran by their own own admission. so they're talking about that
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sedition. so, all right, all right. if you've, you've had, you've had other you've, you've flung around all the accusations, you haven't provided any evidence at all. let's talk if we may about the nuclear issue because you've been an advisor to the government on the nuclear issue. in your view, is this the end of the road for negotiations? we have the u. s, saying, but they simply don't believe that iran is prepared to do what's necessary to make the deal happen. in your view, is that the end of the road for the negotiations? well, the well, tim, who left the deal, who violated the deal, obama violated the deal when iran was carrying out all of its commitments. then trump tore up the deal when iran was carrying out all its commitments, then biting continue to pursue trans policies. so it wasn't iran fault. iran began negotiating to make sure the loopholes that existed, that, that,
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that existed in the path after 2015 were removed. the united states could not cheat iran again. they negotiated hard gain, many confessions. finally, on the last day of negotiations in vienna, the e, you gave a text that meant a lot of iran key demands. and the iranians took it home. they gave their ideas about some of the problems that need to be resolved. and joseph bordeaux admitted the u. s ally joseph, we're all admitted that the iranian demands were reasonable. we thought at that time we had to deal but the united states delayed and then gave a response that was obviously intended to push things back. probably we thought back then because of the november elections. so the problem is not the united states, and by the way, you run it at the european europeans and americans were constantly saying that it's
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almost too late. the iranian nuclear program is crossing a threshold beyond this particular day. we can no longer continue negotiation, but they're all gone. now. what happened? it was obvious. they were lying. they knew that you were using the way that iran was not developing a bomb, but it was all psychological warfare. the un says you still not provided credible explanations for the presence of uranium at 3 locations that were never declared. and you just say it's time to close the false file. do you enjoy playing these kind of games with the international community? well, tim, 1st of all is not the international community. it's western countries. you are not the international community. your guardian is only a small part of the international community. iranians have said that we are prepared to respond to all of the questions. but the problem is that the i a and the i a has a board of governors that is dominated by western countries. and the head of the i
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a is someone that's always in the western count. the previous head of the i a when he wants to get elected. and let's go back to weekly weeks, according to weekly the documents he told the americans, if you put me in power, i will be in your camp on all major issues. so the iranians are saying, take away the politics and bring in the technical experts and if and the issues can easily be resolved, these issues that you are claiming were given by this railey regime to the i a and these issues go back 20 some years ago. when the iranian nuclear program was taking baby steps, it was nothing compared to what it was today, what it is today. so we all know that the whole process is politicized. but the iranians are what more than willing to solve the issue. if the americans are determined to have a deal, you said you were asked why iran is enriching uranium at 60 percent
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levels. what the i a said levels that are reached only by countries that i'm making nuclear bombs. and you say iran does that in order to get leverage in the talks. let's call that what it really is. it's not leverage. it's a threat of urine sample. it's a threat, isn't it pure and simple. if you don't get what you want, you'll build a bomb despite all the assurances that you've given that you don't intend to do that. no to, you know, do you know what a threat is? a threat is when your government say all options on the table. a threat is when your country's, your government threatened to kill our people, that's a threat. enriching at 60 percent is leverage what you are governments to our threat and they carry it out in different country. they destroy the rock, they destroyed they be. they sanction venezuela. your government steals money from the venezuelan people and star them and then face the government and venezuela, they mismanage. so you strangle people and then you ask, why can't they breed?
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no, your government threatens other countries and your government carry out those threats . so we take those seriously, but no one the other hand with the money only saying it's americans to sit down and get serious talk tomorrow government always everybody else harassing our people for over a 100 years. always, always much. not everyone else. it's western government. always somebody, not asian, it is not asia, it is not latin america. it is not africa. it is what nato government we got don't handle the international community with much controversy. briefly over the last few days. probably your life about the reports of iranian drones being used by russia, and it's war with ukraine, strenuous denials from iranian officials, but ukrainians themselves have identified the devices as she had 136 drones. how
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ignorant there? i think the rest of the world really is to try and claim that they didn't give them to russia don't, don't, don't, don't call yourself the rest of the world. i'm 1st of all, not in the foreign ministry, but a number of things. tim and i and i speak on behalf of myself. your governments lied. you advanced westwards, you advance nato eastwards to the russian border. your government carried out a crew and ukraine. europe. government supported right wing, fascist, like the as off battalion, which in the western media it was discussed they were saying before the events this year that they, that this is a big problem in ukraine. and they killed 1515 or 16000 ethnic russians in the dumbass region and in other parts of eastern, your claim, your governments provoke pressure, your government allow this to happen. you've gone through the list and you've swallowed rushing propaganda, hook line and think dr. miranda,
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it's been good to have you on conflicts on thank you very much. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm a russian pop again. this i'm a russian pop began to i've been gas twice by your government. the government that pays you. so i think your government's done that in the 20th century before apparently. right. thanks. thanks so much for your time. thank you. the ah, ah, with
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