[000:00:00;00] ah, it was a nail biter until the very end and the tightest election results since brazil's return to democracy, former president lucy, nancy lula to philip, pulled off a stunning political come back. 2 years ago. he was in prison. now he faces the daunting task of uniting a country more polarized than ever. far, i'd incumbent gyre balls to narrow becomes the 1st sitting president to ever lose reelection. the question now is whether or not he and his supporters will allow for a peaceful transition of power and nickel, foolish, and berlin. and this is the day ah, this is

a victory for all women and man who loved democracy and who won freedom. i give one hour for the biggest winner is brazilian democracy to sum up, but this is the fraud. and if we need to go to the army, the army will have to intervene. communism will not come to brazil. i was filing the elections, which were very close worth, transparent and fed up good health when it was a campaign of a collective of people who love freedom and democracy against big budgets, or for a terry and isn't ah also on the show. benjamin netanyahu seeks a comeback of his own, as israel goes to the polls for the 5th time. and for years we ask what's moving, voters? you're busy lectures are both liberalism versus nationalism. the big ideas personified

into people. liberalism in look bigger than his kind of cam. national is them personified them that the know and he's very clear. ah, thanks for joining us. we start the day and brazil were left as candidate. hello izzy. nancy luna da silva has won the presidential election by a historically thin margin. his victory follows a dirty and defamatory campaign on both sides and wench, the incumbent foreign president variables to narrow, baseless li, cast doubt on the integrity of the voting process. he's often been called the trump of the tropics and fears are that in defeats, he might take another lesson from the former u. s. president playbook, tears of joy for the supporters of lewis and nancy. o. lula da silva, disappointment for his opponent. lula has been declared the winner of one of the most polarized elections in brazil's history. historically,

her will be mad issued by eve. i'm here to govern this country in a very difficult situation. myself, but i have faith in god that with the help of the people, we will find a way out so that this country may live again. democratically won't harmoniously. the 10th runoff election pitted the leftist lula against the far right encumbrance julia both sanara, both in aro, took an early lead, but results became neck and neck with 50 percent of ballots counted. then, as lyla began to pull ahead, the celebrations began. ah, the final count came down to the wire with lulu winning just under 51 percent of the vote. but with such a narrow margin between 2 very different candidates, tensions remains sky high. bo scenario has attacked brazil's democratic

institutions, including casting doubt on the integrity of the vote. now, many fear he may refuse to accept the outcome. his supporters already claiming fraud monitoring victories when we, when he didn't win this was stolen. the truth is not everyone's disappointed for you some off, but this is fraud. and if we need to go to the army, the army will have to intervene. communism will not come to brazil my view, but i feel as world leaders congratulate the new president on his victory. bell scenario has so far remained silent. and let's bring an oliver stone call, his professor of international relations at the julio vargas foundation in south palo. mister stone gl. welcome to the day. just how remarkable is the political come back that lulac just pulled off. well, it's quite remarkable in many ways. first of all, this is the 1st time that

a sitting president has been voted out of offers in brazil because sitting presidents enjoy the incumbency advantage, which has allowed presidents for decades to massively increase public spending just ahead of the election. and boston has done just that, and he's increased public spending so much that congress actually proves a special measure to eliminate a constitutional limit on pre election spending. and that also explains why the election was so close. but there was a profound rejection also of the both auto government and brazil, which explains how low was able to win this election. but it's, it's profoundly divided country and it's not a great mandate for change. now lula is a person who has been a presidential candidate since 1989. he's won twice in 2000 to 2006. so it's

really the most dominant political figure that we have here in brazil. since the country became a democracy, boston ira has been years attacking brazilian institutions and cultivating allies in the armed forces. how much trouble could he cause if he really wanted to put up a fight? well i think that a brilliant democracy has been under tremendous pressure for the past years. this also has to do with the fact that we've had basically 10 years of near 0 percent growth. the men's frustration that has accumulated after pretty hopeful years and the 2000 and then a reversal of expectation. and many have blamed democracy itself. and somebody like bull sonata who's clearly has a strong men ambitions very much similar to what we've seen in turkey and hungry in venezuela, nicaragua, in many places around the world, have sought to concentrate power, put pressure on the judiciary attack,

the media could dina. and depending on what the president will do now, but even if he somehow doesn't contest the result, millions of brazilians will think that the la government is illegitimate, even though bullfighter hasn't actually presented any evidence that the elections were stolen. and all experts agree that brazil's electoral system is very modern and very safe. so i expect that polarization could actually increase even in the coming months. and it will be a massive challenge to govern such a country. and i think that they will continue to be a risk during this transition of power that we will see some political violence as we're approaching the inauguration on january 1st. so highly polarized country, how can lula bring it together as he has promised? well that's so perhaps the greatest political challenge of his life time. i it because he himself is

a very polarizing figure and he's despised and has been demonized by the right. in brazil, i think he's made quite some effort during the campaign to reach out has built a very broad alliance of unprecedented nature in brazil. that includes people in the far left on the left, the center. and even conservatives like his vice presidential candidates. so during the campaign, lots of people in the moderate fright of actually endorsed lula. but still, i think it will be a massive challenge because both, both auto and lula are polarizing figures. and the economy is unlikely to improve significantly. one way to reduce polarization is to grow the economy to really overcome the many challenges that the countries facing. but i expect the next year to be very difficult governing this country will be a mess of challenge even for somebody as experienced as lulu. in his acceptance speech last night, he said brazil is back at what is the let's make her

a mean for brazil's place in the world. well, brazil used to be a very, or are used to be seen as a quite constructive actor on a national scene. has led peacekeeping missions, for example, and he is been a country that collaborated with many countries around the world to reduce deforestation as also projected itself as a mediator because it's a country that's over developing country, but also western country, a latin american country. so in a way of bricks, country g, 20 members, so country that can somehow build consensus, build bridges, and contribute to international cooperation. but over the past 4 years, it has suffered tremendously is and its relationship to many countries around the world of profoundly strained because of its quote unquote anti global is from pissed strategy that also has embraced and certainly under lula, brazil will yet again seek to become a more constructive actor, but it's important to keep in mind that domestic politics comes 1st is nicer to 1st

of all, stabilize the domestic situation. and unless he succeeds, he won't be able to bring brazil back to the international stage. in part because both that is more is here to stay. it's very strong in congress, in the senate, in the governor, in regional governments. and there's a lot of powerful politicians who will support both scenarios, way of facilitating deforestation rather than fighting against it. so i think the international community will have to have some patients because lola will initially have to pacify the country for before you can engage internationally. let's look at the broader latin american context quickly here we've seen many countries lean left lately. most recently, sheila and colombia, now brazil is a y reaching left turn or simply a turn away from whoever is in power. i think it's above all a turn against whoever is in power. we've seen a remarkable string of victories of opposition,

victories in latin america. the past 15 elections in latin america ah, have led till position victories. so governing right now is just very, very difficult because of the, of the entire region is seeing increasing inequality, increasing poverty, low growth, frustration with political leads. and they're also applies to the incoming government. so lula is, are, you know, risks not being of particularly popular president because when he was president from 2003 to 2010, there was a commodity born and our, and that was fairly easy to govern. the country was much less polarized. ah, so i think it's above all a profound rejection of whoever's in power and unless the economy will change the that will improve unless poverty or will decrease again. i expect this

anti incumbency sentiment to prevail in the region. professor oliver's uncle in south. paula. pleasure. speaking to you tonight. thank you. are much ah, israel is heading for the polls again one mice, ne, in, and the 5th general accent and just for years and the ballot looks fairly familiar to former prime minister benjamin netanyahu is looking to replace her in premiere dyer le pete. the challenger lanes in the polls but might have to rely on the far right to propel him to victory. ah, the seasons may change, but the question for israeli voters remains the same device at former prime minister benjamin bb. netanyahu is vying for a return to power campaigning across the country in his now in famous bulletproof p . p bus. don't bomb his time. no one stays home. every one should go and

vote recruit. and just remote in his main opponent yet your le pete is mel its current caretaker prime minister and head of the centrist dish. a tea party la pete took over as prime minister after his 8 party coalition. government collapsed in june. you ought alias, the white hutch on enlist selection. and so there's one thing we need to know about . deliveries are coming that it's close. she, she'll house you but they, she, she, you watch tv like i do. but we know how to turn around a tie selection, what we'll do tight elections. i dish i v for israelis who have voted for times in as many years and the good in it's eloquent will win. louis, they will have 34 seats and the rice will win big time will shashi live an issue with the machine? and it's a boring campaign. no one will deliver what we need to know that i made a, b, b,

all my life calling and i wanted for b, b, i, mr. battling. but now with all his trials select to keep the call advice. i don't want him to run the country to form a coalition. government candidates need 61 out of 120 kinessa seats. finally, polls predict netanyahu and his aligned right being religious parties at 60 seats, just one seat short of a majority. la pete's blog as legging slightly behind, but nothing is certain yet. good. dizzy lectures are about liberalism versus nationalism. the big ideas personified into people. liberalism in le, than his kind of care nationalism personified them that the now and he's very clear, kim, it's also about this man he tomorrow ben via from the far right alliance village assign isn't there currently pulling 3rd. if they do that well, it could make this one's fringe figure the king maker for netanyahu. let coalition

seen it done. yeah. actually embracing him and with nathan yelled entire liquid and case, keep from saying, what's the problem with it? the more been there, you know, why shouldn't we embrace him? so a man, it's like riding the tiger and on the back of the tiger and a tiger is now more powerful than the rest of them. netanyahu is facing corruption charges in court, has just published his memoir soon. he will know whether he will be the one to write the next chapter in israeli politics. and our correspondence, tanya came on file that report and has of course much more to tell us tanya, israeli faith of familiar choice. and netanyahu is again at the center of it all. how heavy do the corruption charges wail for him and his campaign? well i think it has said it, i mean from any is where it is here. it feels like it's another kind of a random on the former, a long term prime minister benjamin netanyahu is now the opposition leader,

and he wants to return to power again. now he can do so, i mean nothing in israel is where the legislation prevents him from running again as the head of the li could. although he is facing corruption charges, he has to fight for his innocence in court. now we should not forget, he has still a very large space and he could, his party is usually the largest party. it also is predicted in the polls up to the election are now as again the largest already. and you know, i talked to some of his supporters also now on the campaign trail, they always say huck b b, that means only bb and only he can actually provide the safety of the security or for it's for israel citizens. that's a dare take. but of course, it runs against pull in advance along political lines. you have those who are supporting him and who want him to return to power and those who say no,

because just he is sitting in court basically. or he cannot run the country again. and does her really horrified for him to return? now, if you're looking at the last pulse to final polls that were published on friday by the 3, i mean a television channels here we've been seeing that it's a very, very tight race really could. and mister netanyahu with his li could and the his religious writing block, they would reach 60 seats in it's $61.00, sits out of a $120.00 seats in the connected. so this is a very, very tight a raise as we see. but on the other hand, it could also be just a once more and inconclusive election, and we could see another election. and sometime soon, let's talk about the potential king makers here. and how do people feel about nicholas alliance with the far right? religious lion isn't parties where the thing that has been, you know,

are here in the headlines for the whole election campaign, the rise of the far right. we're talking here about the our alliance, religious assign isn't. this isn't the lines of 1st 3 of parties and a, one of the leaders. number 2, actually on the list of you saw it and the report it am i bent the has become a bit the poster boy in this election campaign. he's all over the place. you could say a he is are on the tv channels. he's giving a lot of interviews and a visit. it is, it is a very strange way to see how the far right and the extremist views, especially m. it's. am i ben via he used to be known as a supporter of the late mother me in a car. hannah, who was an extremist leader. he was assassinated in 1990. he was the head of the cock party. there was a party that was outlawed as a terror organization in the u. s. and in israel and mr. thomas ben via also

has been indicted several times for incitement. so it is a. a very strange campaign to see him coming up. so i, in the polls ridge this alliance could be the 3rd largest a party. and as we heard in the report it, there could be potentially the king makers in a netanyahu let a coalition. if you can build a coalition and they could become becoming, you know, by the influential in some of the ministries, one key demographic though to stop and netanyahu victory could be arab, israel is, but it seems like they're somewhat reluctant to vote, explain it to as why not in well, i think you have to wait and see. there has been a lot of focus on r d. r. turn out to voter turnout in the are of community minority are about 20 percent, offer israel's of population. but i think it's still too early to tell because there have been, you know, the polls that give not a clear picture at the moment. they have been like, polls are going lower than 40 percent,

turn out and up to 50 percent. that's the latest polls i've been seeing. and the water turn out that is important for the party blocks because a lower border turn out and the arab community could mean that it would benefit mister netanyahu and his wife being religious glove, a higher turner witness benefit. or mister lapierre, the current prime minister of the caretaker, a government. and if you talk to people from the community, you know, they have reasons not going to work, but they are also those will go to ward. so i think, you know, we still have to wait to see what the border turn out is what some would say. you know, that we, we don't feel that we are really seen. you know, what impact do we have, especially if you see right now the house been in our party in the government and the last government, the it party coalition, a government. and so, you know, we're seeing at the same time no. the, the rise of the fall right. kramer in jerusalem,

thank you so much. and trapped in the happiest place on earth. doesn't sound too bad, does it? well, visitors at disneyland shanghai might beg to differ. there being locked inside the park as officials trying to contain an outbreak of coven 19 on monday entry and exit points close abruptly with guests only allowed to leave after producing a negative test, 10 locally transmitted cases were recorded in shanghai on sunday. china is the last major economy following a strict policy of locked downs in an attempt to stop the spread of the disease. that's very and professor g, cham, he's associate professor of health policy and economics at the yale university school of public health. professor g good to have you on the day, in recent days, we've seen not only people locked into disney land, but also at work in 2 department stores, airports. what are these drastic abrupt move most and tell us about china 0 co

policy? ah yes and i, and as i remember, this is not the 1st time in human for destiny till closing shall hi, last time was like us asserting solomon. people were trapped this time we have no concrete number yet, but this is very consistent with china's her 0 toby policy because of the training of transmission. so when's the case is arise and low cost already is called china have been continuing to impose though sir, very at wrapped and extreme measures. and, and i, i don't think we have her, any seeing a foreseeable future to change these. says iroquois the policy as already in clearly indicate an antique, indicated in the recent to panic. congress just finished her 2 weeks ago. china is follow this strict lockdown policy for 3 years now, and it's reported there are hundreds of different lockdown in place at this moment . people are for many reasons the fed up,

do we have any evidence that the strategy has in fact saved lives? yes indeed. and the according to different asked may, so i minions of people being trapped a at different time point. and this strategy might be helpful and proved to be helpful at the beginning of the academy be when we know where little about the wires and when the case vitale rate was still high, much higher than the flu. a. so that, that means to be more cautious seen in more restricting the activities transportations might be helpful. but as we are transferring to a new stage, when the wireless is becoming less a delay and we have more of seeing, seeing our talk, hate to, to find a guess it like back things like there and who are drugs. so i think gradually these measures has to be a piece out, but the average and we are now seeing this in the chinese society. i think it will

take her much longer time for china to think about 2 o 2, transfer to a more sustainable approach. yet that i do want to talk about vaccines because a part of the da 0 cove at strategy is also based on, on vaccines. but these tight locked downs, do they mean that phasing doesn't trust its own vaccines? yes indeed, at the beginning of the pin them each high now was trying to tax a task that they were waxing, seeing the cleaning and highs. but at that time, the most of the subjects war younger people, but there's very little they have all the older person. so unlike many other countries, china was vaccinating younger adults 1st than the older house. but i think this is a incorrect approach because the older about some most horrible and a so far, you still see that a larger percentage of the older $1000.00 a booster all without has 2nd adults because there's a lack of trust in the data in the in the, at it worse,

you wince of that. and so i think or to build this chassis where, where much take time and i think a chinese government should not put our acts in one basket. a should try to secure a more effective vaccine at the mean time to do the r and d of his own vaccines that we're a, make this approach her a more sustainable and her and the less risky professor. $8010.00 at the yale university school of public health. that your pleasure have a you and the share tonight. thanks. thank you. that is our time for today, but as always the conversation continues online. you'll find our team on twitter at c, w news, and myself at nicole underscore for us. for now though, from me and all of us here in berlin. thank you so much for spending part of your day

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