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it's quite original, i think it's innovative. it could be interesting. but for me, not really walker for us. for me not at the moment. i'm going to wait a bit. watching the davina is live from berlin. coming up next is dog from with dirty business. is about a community in chalet and the toxic legacy of a swedish companies waste shipments. armando, you can also find much more news analysis and video on our website. but as d w dot com, i'm really mohammed, thanks for watching. i'll see soon. i think imagine how many portion of love us heard out in the world climate change very often story. this is my plan, the way from just one week. how much work can really get
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we still have time to go. i'm doing all with what 5th. ah. ah, we can go ahead and put them in a fit for them. hey, what do you think it is massive? i don't know why. but there's lots of austin. they try oxide around here. yeah. are snacking? wow . ah.
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if the 7th avenue, this is the cemetery. thing she's buried here. i believe her death was caused by all the arsenic and led we have here day you'll see a bay. i still asked myself why i was never allowed to see her medical records. what good, why is that? he was alone. i wasn't even allowed to take a picture of her if she lost her hair due to be chemotherapy in was completely bald late of a ship every time i wanted to take a photo of her, she said no mama,
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no. she didn't want to have her picture taken that way. medical brumbalow on her final day, she said come with me. when i said to her later, darling medical, very rarely she asked me, leave me alone. i said yes. and then i'll be sleeping next to you. she put her head on my shoulder and drew her last breath. did i miss? i looked it was like when a baby says mamma, for the 1st time. you mean mamma? your medical smile. she breathed mamma and at that moment i lost her. you will never forget that. ready ah
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ah no from all 14 years ago i began retracing the steps from my home town in sweden. he said to my native country, chile and the desert town of our rica earth installed adrica full cuts in 2 places that have been connected my entire life wanted someone connected by the mining company, alida. and we'll either mon, the had issue many people hear a sig and thousands initially. they say it's because of the wasted at the beginning of all funded there's some to the waste that's left over after we've finished mining for gold back at home. after we've extracted the precious metals from the all the melman viewed and feel,
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we've made this film on to tell that story for that visa. awesome. hm. good letter. yeah, i laugh so. yeah. hello to this unusual in today, yet that next me is now a a lush. happy mantle. my 1st question dear, how do you feel about what your country threatened for has brought here? okay. why do you mean the toxic waste? cynthia i? i think my country's responsible once i would and should do something to help all of you. as her uncle put it aside with her.
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ah! to amy in the mid 19 eighties when chile was ruled by a military dictatorship, bullied and shipped nearly 20000 tons of toxic sludge to a rica in northern. she lay till erica. ah, they in none here. go hugged almosha neat tweaks hilbert lee. this lodge contained high levels of arsenic, old mercury and lead landscape all logged from l. t 1000000 in a corner for lead and paid that she lay in company promo, 1000000 euros to dispose of the toxic waste. but only a fraction of the sludge was processed in promised furnaces, preston left li kunda. but plumped the rest was simply dumped into
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a pile on the outskirts of a rica and forgotten may order skill a boost of excel from allison till whose summer and then it stopped. it forced us project in the years that followed by a densely populated neighbourhood emerged right next to it off house her again live and live. that's awe at him. mom. back han, bullied and is a pillar of society. you might say that it helped sustain and provide a living to my community. but what does bullied and have to say about how swedish mining ways will ended up on the other side of the world upon darcy than you'd left it on? you're simply not interested in a fair portrayal of this issue or as bullied in as a company was almost yourself, is bailey,
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that's not true. we described go lead in as an important company that has done a lot for the community here than i'm being dental school locally. and my mom and trying a connection between the people who work for bulletin today and the situation and oscar gemini, of the, of you get the ideas that i don't think that's fair to the people who work for the company to day with her. and that other beer that may feel well working on this film, i eventually came into contact with one of bullied and former directors role for sped buried. was one of those responsible for shipping the toxic sludge to a rica. ah ha ha. we led us to wagner. he returned to over eager because he wanted to see with his own eyes the consequences of his decision. ah, are you the music over there? where it says k 15?
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if you cool, got away my children used to play there in about their kid on the where did you hear about the young man who died of the tumor in his head? he was also poisoned with no one ever told him what was going on. the doctors in santiago didn't say anything because they said it was just that the people here uneasy, g o b, 10 year old children have to take these 3 months and the doctor see that they're insulin resistant. i don't understand what's happening here. there are so many drugs in examination with what i don't understand this a long time.
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elicit ross is rove. he doesn't speak spanish. aloud. i bye. beth? yes. well metre in? yes, this, let me, i got she had to have surgery away because of the toxic waste extra nipples grew on her year after mamma. that's why she had surgery did. if she got pregnant, all of these nipples would have produced milk. that's why they had to be removed. i am at it, it isn't your fault. i to care for him. no, i wouldn't say that. but i feel terribly sad about this bill and very, very angry. if i had made a different decision, though,
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none of this material would ever have been sent here. no lantern submitted again. and when the lena, when he came here to our account, when you eat, told me, came to my house. when we talked for quite a while now, or she'll explain the deal to us with delaware, who am i remember that he was very emotionally affected after visiting the area and talking to the young people there after that experience of another that he said the bulletin has to address the damage done to the people there. for me, it was a question of justice, you know, and human rights. it any idea when it goes to what they might have with this? yeah, demand is it is meant rodrigo, i sampler and i from from all rodrigo and i have known each other for 14 years on of him. he is from a rica and is an anthropologist mendoza to when i 1st met him,
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he had begun working with the people affected by the toxic waste from sweden. he dog. today, he's probably the person who knows the most about the waste scandal, lena rica. in chile, both that she lane, state and promo that the company that received the ways were convicted in court. some took him and a small group of victims received compensation for the damage they suffered in elite and their lot on the arbiter men bully them. but bullied and has never been taken to court. i thought a target had o laden has avoided commenting on the a rica case whenever possible. medical mathematica found that they probably assumed the case has been forgotten. i booked them
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really well from kimberly. hey, you are now, but i, i, i'd like to speak to eva wooton. yes, there you wanna. i don't. my name is johan. uber from current law firm and stockholm, yahoo! understand that you're bulletins, legal, representative now. yes. i mean, you can go on the, um, her, i'm calling because of the exports of toxic mining waste to the mid 1980 to chilling partition until i assume you're familiar with that. as though at the all to some of my thumb. i've been looking into this case for a while. i is together with some colleagues from sweden, but she lee and the u. s. good. and we've prepared a lawsuit her against bulletin gilbert from andrew curtis and was also come bulletin ah
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come sir, can said malformations bone and joint pain. the waste that's believed in ship to chile in the 1980s. this is dale, causing serious harm to day said that the man who eats 100 people from a poor community in the desert of northern chile have lost a claim against the swedish company. mm hm. with this just to it feels good to see that there are people who are pursuing the matter in a way that we as filmmakers aren't able to do it. kenyatta if you don't tito for the court cases the result of 4 years of preparation which began
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after the release of a documentary film. as much as the report showed children played in the pile of toxic waste which was full of arsenic lead, and mercury milan, the waste came from sweden and bullied. and none of this would have happened if the waste had stayed in sweden to study. ah, we were struck by how symbolic al representative was of cases of this type. there are many, many situations like this around the world where typically multinational corporations based and developed countries do things overseas that they would never dream about doing in their own country. ah lewis
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gordon lewis gordon is the founder of an american non profit organization backed by private donors that provides legal support to environmental cases around the world . he and a team of swedish lawyers watched our film yet he can. why can't we be too late? i wish for each one of you, a broom balloon between the door. it is very crucial for come with me. we have okay. miss young. this was the case i dreamt told when i was in law school to represent
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the week against the mighty step tried to let him push no kiss in air at sight. it's flattened out. problem with the had a plot. this is you city o f, that bull the place where bullied into waste was kept until 1998. when she lane authorities instructed prom l to move the waste about a kilometer away. lance can mean bought for 14 years before that. the sludge was located next to a residential area, volta islam at thought a door in the liquor. if you on all the people he is, say that by that time, toxic dust had spread across the entire area. say that tifton played on how to speed it's your middle that a thank you for how to food
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problem still existed yasamin from before we were talking about when the waste was moved in 1088 and when it arrived here in 1995 before the waste is still here. it's unbelievable when you watch your film, in fact, it's hard to grasp how close the hoses actually are, who not, and nobody there knew anything in follow up. nobody knew what it was or some loss of the wind blows from here. straight over there and, and dana say, and nobody knew what it was like them back then. there wasn't even any wolves when this will help later. mommy, the kids we used to come here to play. mommy, that was easy to get inside went up what he ended up, the children would play her. what were some of the things they would do specifically come, why the m a on equal? they were piles where kids would play in the didn't some of them build castles with the montana
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at thought on bought some extra. joselyn is one of the many children who grew up in this neighbourhood. in the 1st time i met her, she was 10 years old, the home of t. o. i lived with her family when i was in a rica when that are more on that you've already had you been with. and this class had to novick. so i watched her grow up on my visits to a rica, and soon she'll have a baby herself, scone child for bon mm. where it is just to live over there. this is her wickedly of the family 1st because i'm pregnant. my baby is sharing my blood or you're suffering from trauma from that or, and arsenic,
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and as any arsenic. as anything the now you're going to have a new member of the family. i only wish that the baby is born healthy in. wow. if i figured that i had a film with fidel city, i knew that 8000 people in all were tested in 2010 out of 8000 samples. dental, 6600 were examined by lab and santiago means and arsenic was confirmed. some of this will, so in the $6600.00 samples for arsenic poisoning was confirmed and 12.9 percent of them which is approximately 8 on the 1st cp. yes. by 800. no follow to hipaa. we're already part of the lawsuit. if i just that minority of the local residence, 825 people, would i have
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a group of 15000 or 18000 different persona a possible to join a new group of clements. we can add people who have suffered harm, even though the case is already before the court and sweden. if you have arsenic levels of 30 or more, you can join the lawsuit level. lydia with this is a court case. we might win or we might lose just like in any lawsuit. ok, thank you. just think of how many thousands of tons of toxic waste with doors here . it was contaminated with 14 different heavy metals. we presented the case don't. belinda wouldn't have been dealing with a huge company. it has a great deal of power in europe over then it will celia them unless given the opportunity to super legion in a swedish court. that's already
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a success even without knowing what will come of it. if the and good me now oh, i lost you. well ours, you're responsible for launching the biggest lawsuit we've ever had here. so era, really? very common health and home garage. huh. thank you. so this is our home for 8 weeks we'll recorded for for each guy. yeah. can you watch out, dan polluters from f. we're coming for you? ah, don't been old on star robin alden's tom. i'm a lawyer representing bulletin in this case of over and i won't
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be we know fairly well what they'll say. we've been exchanging arguments for several years now. it's been a long journey job. my name is leslie nielsen, needle, head of communications at belinda boley them. so boldly the hard so bullied and has done nothing wrong here of it. so these are so be our standpoint, is that we have a responsibility to clarify what happened, support the cleans with back in the fact that everything is on the table. oh, it is an emotional chase is an important case for many people including gleaton ball. so we have to get to the bottom of this would almost be what it and get closer to the truth lovable would necessarily be the most spectacular truth from it . it should be that they've been in the full truth, that osama oliver older than it must have been left thus far less at a fresh trace. it's lock the case is the 1st of its kind in sweden. both sides have
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submitted thousands of pages documenting the various investigations a show and the evidence take these denise thing. mm ah sees it for the hearing will begin in case t 1012 flash 13 between the adrica plaintiff and bullied and mineral ab long board. us either both sides have brought in witnesses and scientists from all over the world explorer experts on chile and law, meteorologists, toxicologist, as soil experts at chemists, semi metallic. jessica politicians and former employees and directors were schafer under meaning. 7 holden, utter cassie, them till exempt and expended plaintiffs from america will present experts who will support the claim, that toxic levels of arsenic were found in that urine operation, and that it originates from bullied and smell to sludge. all fun. i am
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a professor at chapman university in california. and my expert opinion, the smelter sludge, is a clear and significant a source of arsenic in the area to discounted as a source of arsenic. it takes that tremendous stretch of imagination when i 1st heard from one of the lawyers that the bullet and waste had 17 percent arsenic. i didn't believe it. i've never heard anything like that. a pile of waste that close to a city to with that high of arsenic concentration. in one moment to how the tell your children that their father is going to die in let me last one. they thought you thought he was my reason for everything he
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wanted to and they took him from me. pathetic would i believe this could have cathy a little better than darrow's good of kevin anthony. we have plaintiffs here as well. i got the 2011 study. sure that there are high levels of arsenic here. anyhow, harbor 9 a day that honeywell t like you're going to recover this woman who lived in the house with the bars of them. she sold the house and died of cancer. donnie t. conan lived next door. she had an aggressive cancer in her head and died to them . you for you. he died yesterday and the wife of her son had a baby who died. but her son doesn't want to talk to any one about it or hear
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anything about the contamination of a year. and another neighbor, marty subpoena had the stomach cancer. the woman who bought her house had a tumor on her face, put in the men across from her, also had cancer. and then there's so many cases you. yes, it seems like every one here and marty on marina. she had ovarian cancer, qualified by the time she died, the cancer had spread everywhere. then there's mrs. yaya, who also died of cancer. it started in her years and spread that then there's mrs. teresa's husband, who also died of cancer. he had lung cancer and skin cancer and gum to libyan and then matos father waste. i thought i didn't know more melanie korea bigger. i guess. what's the health situation like in other parts of attica, is he gets a home in the area near the disposal site is very striking. you know that we can in place not only compared to the rest of america in dummy, but to all of chill,
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little british employer cancer. when we started our research in 25, if we didn't find higher rates, i can start in, but the will have. but to day, it are cases in almost every family that in the areas near the disposal site to little to legal rate of cancer is much, much higher than in the rest of kilo elephant tnf. and the grocer. yolanda roberson santo lasagna. be a $1000000000.00 who hung up for listening to him was very interesting. he paints a picture of what he sees as the situation in the region to us. but as so often, i don't believe his account holds up as evidence. it could be that in 1998, when people became aware that a big pile of potentially hazardous materials were stored there. and they began to see it as the cause for all sorts of things for you. it became an explanation for all sorts of things. just as a different orient logged ah
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offs on that. the still melodic, a rica and bo, laden are a world apart. like 2 worlds that never meet the reality of what is happening on the other side of the world. are, you seems far, far away, long or less than under. estes hey you, i'm me fall i you had to live in all my father worked the bullied me and visited chilly when the sledge was being sold on a deal to have. i'm sure he died in 2008 another off, but often talked about how they, he and his bosses knew that the waste would not be handled, proclaimed chile, the case haunted him for the rest of his life. gone down to sleep.
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ringback body that my father spent his entire working life and then in his last years he was dragged into the sand at the sledge, hammer. ok to fun, solid. saddam somebody on though you meet them all to toilet. so even in the mid 19 eighties, there were people who doubted that the slides would be handled safely and chilly on accordions, father, martin lindstrom, appears on rovers fed buried photo from a rica. no. you amanda, that a papa? oh yes, that's my father. definitely. men bulletins advocate say that thought, oh laden's. lawyers say that the company because of its visits to a rica who gray to precaution, then they were required to and that it was impossible to foresee that people would
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be exposed to the waste atman. this was graceful near us for our fund. yes, you get young to disarm all sorts of hindsight and foresight are 2 different things . and nom hindsight, there's an elegant english phrase here, hindsight bias sham, which describes the psychological phenomenon where we as human beings, when we think about an event in hindsight from will tend to believe that it was much more predictable than it really was more than incredible, by just vol threw up money for less to cash advance. people in this town won't even dare to think that belief may have done anything wrong. they're the only thing my father sent to that effect was, as we understood that they wouldn't take care of the material pro play. he never said i understood it. ya, but i don't know what he meant by. we may be only live out that way, or maybe there was some kind of consensus among the staff that they'd never have dad speak about it openly. la bowman say ad hoc
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official, martin lindsey martin lindstrom passed away several years ago. oh and anna caught in can't find anything in her father's note books that refers to the regrets her father expressed pins. there's nothing that could be used as evidence in the courtroom. ah, conversation and you see so 12 good. yeah, i just want to add to that. yeah, i want it justice to be done here, tara lisa. my. my son was killed. kin, my boss, we who, who killed your son, wiley bo lead a and my dad, the senate, the toxic material here. and he knew exactly what they were doing. ox are,
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and the we have no further question there truly. knowledge fill them out, lessons on your side, please. i know your honor locked up out of the opposing party has no questions the hearing us over now. before. so to type in stock form one other or we feel her for almost will to mother the p. c. o. did. and i dare say that this was bulletins plan, talk article. this is what happened was when big multinational corporations are accused of causing damage with their activity. incident azusa huge summons are spent on experts and consulting muscle from recall to produce hundreds of pages worth of reports of the seymour all with the goal of obscuring your what is evident, i believe, and hope that this court has the ability for you to see through all that, all awesome. thank you from or got see a yemen. thank ah
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bully them in that of manish name. all it into lead that almost called bullied and claims that the plaintiffs suffered no damages. and if they did it, it's not the result of their waste. bullied and doesn't even describe it as waste. bo did salad material of negative value. did the rest of the out a negative to bad? ah. what am in that? ok, so they also say that if bleeding and as the a request side claims them, it has contributed to a humana tearing catastrophe. then this was something the company could never have predicted say ah,
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how are you? good, thanks. a bit nervous, nervous narrative. yes. oh and you course still have the chance emotional, who? 11 years of work boils down to a single minute, 11 a m from alga. i note in the metal, are you ready to fall 100 from okay, here we go. okay. the verdict goes, looked at foot graham. mm hm. okay. oh i, i need to talk to the people here. what's the verdict at
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bowie and what, what in that one ah ha. the interest huntsville, miss regina, and how that course were very disappointed. we hoped for a different outcome. morgan morgan, there are many, many people in the city of attica, or who stayed up all night. they are night yet. uh huh. mm hm. it's not fair. it's not fair, you know, behind our lives. and now they're not even taking responsibility for it.
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i have no idea what we can do. now. this proves nothing. well that it proves is that money talks and they have plenty of that go either with billable epic, the directly like grammar. we're sorry we raised your hopes, right, but i also want to ask for your forgiveness. i'll be more than you don't have to do that to rodrigo, that we're very grateful for all the work you have done yet. i know you thought that she would win, as we all thought we would win. but how do i i'm in shock. yeah, i can hardly knew. we didn't stand a challenge. let me know. life
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was a goals believer at all. or during this preceding bulletins rule on the material from bronze care when an organ had been thoroughly scrutinized and then on the conclusion is unequivocal. i call on the residents of erica, we want to try to accept the results of the investigation home to sure. and this trial, in fact, to say, she left a team threat hardballs, but the, my, to she, lance, the swedish court decided to apply chilly in law. so the statute of limitations hadn't expired when i bought it, but the verdict states that there is no proven connection between bullied and toxic waste and the arsenic are found in people's urine to sierra despite the fact that the court says bullied and acted negligently. and it states that this is not relevant because a level of 30 micrograms of arsenic per late of urine does not represent hom.
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instead, the court said a new level for damages at $100.00 micrograms, which is what bullied and had asked for philip. ha o, andrew caught them up on and the to the to his into me and women men the men that ok, so the lawyers for a rica of course do not agree with the verdict. but they also say that the court has made an important error, easier on empty and hooks up in chile. the supreme court decided that 19 micrograms of arsenic per liter of urine represents hom, which the swedish court did not take into consideration april. the lawyers are convinced that they can win on appeal on them. come been your oh
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a i i can i see us. oh, i got a 30 minute verdict is rented the key info. ah no longer it says, oh she yes. well, hemphill, i'm sorry. it didn't work. the court now decided to apply swedish law to the case on. so on a late way, a place, it's the statute of limitations. yes, don't horror. a plot. i can't believe it. they dismissed you to the statute of limitations and didn't consider anything else. no,
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they took the easy way out with all we found was in the commercial set up only than a comment on them. so bullied and got away with it because they did nothing. all this time, they didn't act in a timely manner, and so they avoided taking responsibility. they had to get out. if pola or ponies call them, you can bury toxic waste and your liability ends as soon as it's in the ground. then in 10 years, it's no longer your problem. the children affected by bullied and toxic waste have their claims barred by the statute of limitations before they're even born. doctors could be, are the number for this is fought. it's difficult to accept that justice has been done. ah, don't students get a quote from to let
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a court should have told the whole truth. and but now that the court has ruled that the statute of limitations has passed levels, the truth never even got a full hearing. so we will never know what the justice system believes about bulletin is responsibility for what happened, you know, rica for this amount. yeah, i, we should claim i. right. so citizen, it's not our fault. they got money from the government to bring that toxic waste that contaminated our life. we have to join forces and fight for justice. ah ah ah
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