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if the 7th, the edu, this is the cemetery thing . she's buried here. i believe her death was caused by all the arsenic and blood. we have here day you'll see a bay. i still asked myself why i was never allowed to see her medical records. but again, why is that? he was alone. i wasn't even allowed to take a picture of her if she lost her hair due to be chemotherapy him was completely bald late of a ship every time i wanted to take a photo of her, she said no mama, no. she didn't want to have her picture taken that way.
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medical babylon, on her final day, she said, come with me, what i said to her later darling medical that rally. she asked me we have, we don't know. i said yes. and then i'll be sleeping next to you. she put her head on my shoulder and drew her last breath. even i looked, it was, it was like when a baby says when alma for the 1st time you know it. mamma, illegal. smile. she breathed mamma, and at that moment i lost her you will never forget that. ringback ah
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ah no, some old, 14 years ago, i began retracing the steps from my home town in sweden. he said to my native country chile and the desert town of r rica, perkins thought id. full truck said 2 places that have been connected my entire life wanted some unconnected by the mining company, alida, and we'll either mon, the had issue many people hear a sig and thousands initially. they say it's because of the wasted at the beginning of all funded there some to the waste that's left over after we finished mining for gold back at home after we've extracted the precious metals from the all the melamine beauty field. we've made this film
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on to tell that story for that visa. awesome. hm. yeah. i'll add a yellow to this. i'm jasa into death. yes, the next to me is now a lush. happy mantle. my 1st question dear, how do you feel about what your country sway jennifer has brought here, j. u i you mean the toxic waste? cynthia i. i think my country's responsible guns. i would an should do something to help all of you. as her uncle put it aside with her
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ah! to amy in the mid 19 eighties when chilly was ruled by a military dictatorship, bullied and shipped nearly 20000 tons of toxic sludge to a rica in northern chile till erica. ah ah, the nun huger halted. almosha neat quicksilver oblique. this lodge contained high levels of arsenic, old mercury, and lead shall landscape all logged from l. t, milan a corner for lead and paid that she lay in company promo, $1000000.00 euros to dispose of the toxic waste. but only a fraction of the sludge was processed in promos, furnaces, reston, cliff li, kunda. but lumped, the rest was simply dumped into a pile on the outskirts of
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a rica and forgotten may order skill a boost of excel from allison till whose summer and then it stopped. it forced us project in the years that followed by a densely populated neighbourhood emerged right next to it. off was hagen cleverly that's ah at ham back han, bullied and is a pillar of society. you might say that it helped sustain and provide a living to my community. but what does bullied and have to say about how swedish mining ways will ended up on the other side of the world upon darcy than you would be at this afternoon? you're simply not interested in a fair portrayal of this issue or of bleeding as a company. yes. fuzzy. almost. you service bailey,
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that's not true. we describe bullied in as an important company that is done a lot for the community here than i'm being dental school. locally and my mom and trying a connection between the people who work for bulletin today and the situation and oscar gemini, give me a 2nd. i don't think that's fair to the people who work for the company to day a counselor. and that ought to be that me feel all working on this film. i eventually came into contact with one of bullied and former directors rove the sped buried. was one of those responsible for shipping the toxic sludge to our rica. ah, well hm. we let us to boca, he returned to over eager because he wanted to see with his own eyes the consequences of his decision. ah, i hear the music over there where it says k 15.
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if you cool, glad i my children used to play there in about a few them in the what did you hear about the young man who died of the tumor in his head? he was also poisoned. no one ever told him what was going on. the doctors in santiago didn't say anything because they said it was just that the people here uneasy g o is with 10 year old children have to take these 3 months and the doctor see that they're insulin resistant. i don't understand what's happening here. there are so many drugs in examination. you know what? i don't understand this a long time
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. elicit ross is roth. he doesn't speak spanish. laura? beth? yes. well metre, then yes, this, let me, i got she had to have surgery today. because of the toxic waste extra nipples grew on her year after mamma. that's why she had surgery did. if she got pregnant, all of these nipples would have produced milk. that's why they had to be removed. i am at it, it isn't your fault. that came to them. no, i wouldn't say that, but i feel terribly sad about this bill and very, very angry. if i had made a different decision, though,
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none of this material would ever have been sent here. no lantern. again. and when the lena, when he came here to our account, 20 wait till me came to my house and we talked for quite a while and they all explained the deal to us. and we have to tell them who am i remember that he was very emotionally affected after visiting the area and talking to the young people there after that experience, i know that you said the bulletin has to address the damage done to the people there. for me, it was a question of justice denito and human rights, if any, a good ago so that they might have what piece. yeah. demand is it, it went through the legal yoke, my sampler, and i from from all rodrigo and i have known each other for 14 years on of him. he's from a rica and is an anthropologist. mendoza?
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debit shoe, when i 1st met him, he had begun working with the people affected by the toxic waste from sweden. he dog. today he's probably the person who knows the most about the waste scandal, lino rica in chile, both that she lay and stayed and promo that the company that received the ways men were convicted in court some to him and a small group of victims received compensation for the damage they suffered elite and their lot on the other men bully them, but bullied and has never been taken to court. i thought a target had o laden has avoided commenting on the a rica case whenever possible that accommodate each other. they probably assume the case has been forgotten about clump
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with welcome. kimberly. hey, you are now, but i i, i'd like to speak to eva wooten. yes . hey, you wanna? my name is johan, either from current law firm in stock or your health. andrew standing, who believed in the legal representative. yes, i mean, you can go on the, um, her, i'm calling because of the exports of toxic mining waist in the mid 1980 chilling partition. i assume you're familiar with that. you thought you all to some of nathan. i've been looking into this case for a while. i get together with some colleagues from sweden. she lee and the u. s. and we've prepared a lawsuit against bulletin about from missouri. justice anderson's are come boldly don't ah
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come sir, can said malformations bone and joint pain, the waste that's believed in ship to chile in the 1980s. this is dale, causing serious hom today said that the man who eats 100 people from a poor community in the desert of northern chile have lost a claim against the swedish company. mm. with this has to, it feels good to see that there are people who are pursuing the matter in a way that we as a feel make is on able to do it. kenyatta if you dollars t the for the court cases, the result of 4 years of preparation, which began after the release of
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a documentary film. as much as the report showed children played in the pile of toxic waste which was full of arsenic lead, and mercury milan, the waste came from sweden and bullied. and none of this would have happened if the waste had stayed in sweden to study. ah, we were struck by how symbolic how representative was of cases of this type. there are many, many situations like this around the world where typically multinational corporations based and developed countries do things overseas that they would never dream about doing in their own country. ah lewis
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gordon lewis gordon is the founder of an american non profit organization backed by private donors that provides legal support to environmental cases around the world . he and a team, a swedish lawyers watched our film yet he can't. why can't we be too late? i wish for each one of you a broom believe between the door, it is very crucial for with me. we have okay. miss young. this was the case i dreamt told when i was in law school to represent the week
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against the mighty steps to let him push no kiss in air at sight. it's flattened out with the hat plots. this is city o f, that bull the place where bullied into waste was kept until 1998. when she lane authorities instructed prom l to move the waste about a kilometer away sedans coming. but for 14 years before that, the sludge was located next to a residential area. volta islam, methodical nellikka. if you on all the people he is say that by that time, toxic dust had spread across the entire area. say that tift played on how to speed it's your middle that thank you for how the food problem still
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existed. yasamin from before we were talking about when the waste was moved in 1988 when it arrived here in 1995. before the waste is still here. it's unbelievable. when you watch your film, in fact, it's hard to grasp how close the hoses actually are not, and nobody there knew anything in particular, but nobody knew what it was or some loss of the wind blows from here, the, the stress over there. and and, and say, and nobody knew what it was like in a back then there wasn't even any walls when this will built later me the kids we used to come here to play with. i mean, that was easy to get inside. one of what he ended up, the children would play her. what were some of the things they would do specifically on why the m a on equal. they were piles where kids would play in the didn't all of them in some of them build castles with the march. and it was
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a thought on bon, some of jocilan is one of the many children who grew up in this neighbourhood. in the 1st time i met her, she was 10 years old, the home of t. o. i lived with her family when i was in a rica on the normal one on that your body with and this class at 10 o'clock. so i watched her grow up on my visits to a rica and soon shew have a baby herself, scone child for bon mm. where it is just to live over there. this is simply of the family 1st because i'm pregnant. my baby is sharing my blood, or you're suffering from drama from that or, and arsenic, and as
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a me arsenic. as anything the now you're going to have a new member of the family. i only wish that the baby is born healthy in. wow. if i figured that out, assume with 3 out of city, i knew that 8000 people in all were tested in 2010 out of 8000 samples. you can still 6600 were examined by lab and santiago means, and arsenic was confirmed at some of the diesel. so in the $6600.00 samples that are arsenic poisoning was confirmed and 12.9 percent of them, which is approximately 8 on the 1st ctc. yes. you see by a 100 load hipaa who are already part of the lawsuit. if i just that minority of the local residence, 825 people out of
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a group of 15000 leader, 18000 different persona just a possible to join a new group of clemens, we can add people who have suffered harm even though the case is already before the court and sweden, if you have arsenic levels of 30 or more, you can join the lawsuit level. lydia with this is a court case. we might win or we might lose just like in any lawsuit. ok. thank you . just think of how many thousands of tons of toxic waste was stored here. it was contaminated with 14 different heavy metals. we presented the case don't. belinda wouldn't have been dealing with a huge company. it has a great deal of power in europe over then it was ca, them, and lam given the opportunity to super lead in a swedish court that's already
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a success even without knowing what will come of it. is it good to me now? oh i lost your lars. you're responsible for launching the biggest lawsuit we've ever had here. so era really? very common health and home garage. huh. thank you. so this is our home for 8 weeks . we'll public gordon walkers. each guy. yeah. can you watch out, dan polluters from f? we're coming for you? ah, it all been all don't start robin alden's tom, i'm a lawyer representing bulletin in this case of a widow and i won't be we know
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fairly well what they'll say. we've been exchanging arguments for several years now . it's been a long journey job. my name is lucille sydney, head of communications of belinda boley them sub only the hard so bullied and has done nothing wrong here of it. so these are so be our standpoint, is that we have a responsibility to clarify what happened, support the cleans with back to the fact that everything is on the table. oh, it is an emotional. chase is an important case for many people including gleaton ball. so we have to get to the bottom of this would almost be what it and get closer to the truth lovable would necessarily be the most spectacular truth from it should be that they did not the full truth, that osama oliver older than it must have been thus far less at 1st i said slug the case is the 1st of its kind in sweden. both sides
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have submitted thousands of pages documenting the various investigations a show and the evidence take these police thing. mm aah. sees it for the hearing will begin in case t 1012 slash 13, between the adrica plaintiff and bullied and mineral ab long board. us even both sides have brought in witnesses and scientists from all over the world explorer experts on chile and law, meteorologists toxicologist. as soil experts that chemists semi metella, jessica politicians and former employees and directors were schafer under meaning. 7 holden, utter cassie them till exam. but expanded plaintiffs from a rica will present experts who will support the claim. that toxic levels of arsenic were found in the urine. alteration and that it originates from bullied and
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smell to sludge, all fun. i am a professor at chapman university in california. and my expert opinion, the smelter sludge, is a clear and significant a source of arsenic in the area to discounted as a source of arsenic. it takes that tremendous stretch of imagination when i 1st heard from one of the lawyers that the bullet and waste had 17 percent arsenic. i didn't believe it. i've never heard anything like that. a pile of waste that close to a city to with that high of arsenic concentration in one moment. how did you tell your children that their father is going to die in? let me last one. they thought you thought he was my reason for everything he wanted
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to and they took him from me as i think would i believe this could have cathy a little better than darrow's good of kevin finney. we have plaintiffs here as well . i got a 2011 study sure that there are high levels of arsenic here. anyhow, harbor 9 a day that honeywell t like you're going to recover this woman who lived in the house with the bars of them. she sold the house and died of cancer. donnie t. conan lived next door. she had an aggressive cancer in her head and died to them . you for you. he died yesterday and the wife of her son had a baby who died. but her son doesn't want to talk to anyone about it or hear anything about the contamination. and i used to be here for this. and another
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neighbor, marty subpoena had the stomach cancer. the woman who bought her house had a tumor on her face, put in the man across from her, also had cancer way. and then there's so many cases you. yes, it seems like every one here and marty on marina. she had ovarian cancer. well, by the time she died, the cancer had spread everywhere. then there's mrs. yaya who also died of cancer. really. it started in her years and spread you can and then there's mrs. theresa's husband who also died of cancer. he had lung cancer and skin cancer gum from libyan and then mottos, father, wait. i thought i did. no more melanie hurry, irv reger, i guess. what's the health situation like in other parts of attica? is he gets a home in the area near the disposal site is very striking. you know, that we can in place not only compared to the rest of america in the me, but to all chill, little put him blood cancer. when we started our research in $25.00 a,
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we didn't find higher rates, i can start in, but the will have but to day it are cases in almost every family that when the areas near the disposal site, the level to level rate of cancer is much much higher than in the rest of kilo elephant to lynette in the grocer. yolanda roberson santo hor lasagna. b. a bill dalton, who hung up for listening to him, was very interesting. he paints a picture of what he sees as the situation in the region to us, but as so often, i don't believe his account holds up as evidence. it could be that in 1998, when people became aware that a big pile of potentially hazardous materials were stored there when they began to see it as the cause for all sorts of things for you. it became an explanation for all sorts of things. just as a different orient logged. ah
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. oh fun, that the stu. melody, a rica and bullied, and are a world apart. like 2 worlds that never meet the reality of what is happening on the other side of the world are you seems far, far away, long or less than under. estes hey, you um me fall i you had to live in all my father worked the bullied me and visited chile when the sledge was being sold on a deal to have. i'm sure he died in 2008 other off, but often talked about how they, he and his bosses knew that the waste would not be handled, proclaimed chile, the case haunted him for the rest of his life. gone down to sleep.
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neither my father spent his entire working life and then in his last years he was dragged into the sand at the sledge hammer. ok the funds hold saddam somebody on the he meet them all to toilet. so even in the mid 19 eighties, there were people who doubted that the slides would be handled safely and chilly on accordions. father, martin lindstrom, appears on rovers fed barracks, photo from a rica. no. you amanda, that a papa? oh yes, that's my father. definitely. men bulletins advocate that said at fido laden's, lawyers say that the company because of its visits to a rica who gray to precautions than they were required to. and that it was impossible to foresee that people would be exposed to the waste atman. this was
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graceful near us for our fallen yes, you get him to disarm all sorts of hindsight and foresight are 2 different things. and not hindsight, there is an elegant english phrase. he himes side bias sham, which describes a psychological phenomenon where we as human beings, when we think about an event in hindsight from will tend to believe that it was much more predictable than it really was incredible by just vol. threw up money for left or cash advance. people in this town won't even dare to think that believe may have done anything wrong. they are the only thing my father sent to that effect was, as we understood that they wouldn't take care of the material pro play. he never said, i understood it. ya, but i don't know what he meant by. we may be only live out that way or maybe there was some kind of consensus among mist off that they'd never have dead speak about it openly. my my bill went sad, hacked if
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dish almighty linds martin lindstrom passed away several years ago. oh and anna caught in can't find anything in her father's note books that refers to the regrets her father expressed pins. there's nothing that could be used as evidence in the courtroom ah, conversation and you see. so 12 get out with you. i just want to add that. yeah, i want justice to be done here, tara beaver. my. my son was killed. gin, matthew osley, who killed your son. why bo, leave a and my dad recently took secretarial here,
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and he knew exactly what they were doing. on the we have no further question there for all. look, nolan, fill them out. lessons on your side. i know your honor like locked up out of the opposing party. has no questions. the hearing us over now. the hall so titania ear spock form one other or we feel her for almost all to mother if you see. oh, did i dear see that this was bullied as plan talk article. this is what happened was when big multinational corporations are accused of causing damage with their activity. instead of the social huge summons are spent on experts and consulting muscle from recall to produce hundreds of pages worth of reports of the seymour, all with the goal of obscuring your what is evident, i believe, and hope that this court has the ability for you to see through all that, all awesome. thank you from or got see a young ah
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bully them in that of manish name. all it into lead that almost carla bullied and claims that the plaintiffs suffered no damages. and if they did, but it's not the result of their waste. bullied and doesn't even describe it as waste. boom. did salad material of negative value. did the rest of the out a negative to bad? ah. put him in that. ok. so they also said that if bleeding and as the a rica side claims them, it has contributed to a humana tearing catastrophe. then this was something the company could never have predicted say, ah,
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are you? good, thanks. a bit nervous, nervous narrative. yes. oh and you course still have the chance emotional 11 years of work boils down to a single minute at lemony am from alga. ah no no metal. are you ready to taught how to from okay, here we go. okay. the verdict goes looked at foot ma'am. mm hm. okay. oh i, i need to talk to the people here. what's the verdict at
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bowie and what, what in that one? 0 ah ha. the interest roosevelt. pacifica. how that course were very disappointed we hoped for a different outcome. morgan morgan, there are many, many people in the city of attica, or who stayed up all night there night. yes ma'am. it's not fair. it's not fair. you know who and our lives, and now they're not even taking responsibility for it.
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i have no idea what we can do. now. this proves nothing. well that it proves is that money talks and they have plenty of that go on with billable epic, the directly in the grammar. we're sorry we raised your hopes, right? but i also want to ask for your forgiveness in another day then you don't have to do that to rodrigo, that we're very grateful for all the work you have done. yeah, i know you thought that he would win. so bizarre, we all for what we would when. but how do i i'm in shock. yeah, i can hardly knew. we didn't stand a challenge. so let me know. life
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was a goals, mo, labels and all. or during this preceding legion's rule and the material from from scare when an organ have been thoroughly scrutinized in a manner that conclusions is unequivocal. be at home, i call on the residence of erica in warner to try to accept the results of the investigation. sure. and this trial am in fact to say she left a team set hardballs, but the mother she lands the swedish court decided to apply chilly in law. so the statute of limitations hadn't expired when i'm bored about the verdict states that there is no proven connection between bullied and toxic waste and the arsenic found in people's urine to see it up despite the fact that the court says bullied and acted negligently and it states that this is not relevant because a level of 30 micrograms of arsenic per late of urine does not represent tom.
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instead, the court said a new level for damages at $100.00 micrograms, which is what bullied and had asked for philip. ha. oh, andrew caught them out on an a $2.00 to $3.00. seemed to me, am men the men that ok, so the lawyers for rica of course do not agree with the verdict, but they also say that the court has made an important error on empty and hooks up in chile, the supreme court decided that $9000.00 micrograms of arsenic per liter of urine all represents hom, which the swedish court did not take into consideration all the lawyers are convinced that they can win on appeal on them can be no, you hold oh
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no. i can. i see us. i got a 30 minute voting just read the key in bio. ah, there it is. oh, she yes. i'll handle most. i'm sorry. it didn't work. the court now decided to apply swedish law to the case, also on a lease where a place it's the statute of limitations. yes, some tor, a plot this i can't believe it's. they just mr. you to the statute limitations and didn't consider anything else. no,
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they took the easy way out with all the pharmacy the how many from sat up only than a comment on them. so bullied and got away with it because they did nothing all this time. they didn't act in a timely manner. and so they avoided taking responsibility might help us get out here. and if polo or pod is gone, you can bury toxic waste and your liability ends as soon as it's in the ground. you then in 10 years it's no longer your problem. the children affected by bullied and toxic waste have their claims barred by the statute of limitations before they're even born. or this could be out of the don't. the number for this is for it's difficult to accept that justice has been done. 2 ah, don't students get a quote from to let the court should have told the whole truth and but now that the
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court has ruled that the statute of limitations has passed levels, the truth never even got a full hearing. so we will never know what the justice system believes about bullied and his responsibility for what happened in a rica for decimal. yeah, yeah, i mean, we should claim i right, says citizen, it's not our fault. they got money from the government to bring that toxic waste that contaminated our life. we have to join forces and fight for justice with
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