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i'd is that his shoulder will make a delightful perch. now after it's moment in the spotlight, the bird flew off with a cdm. here are you enough to report us ear bud? see the good hold messiah council is a reporter when i may be carrying on like a proud look used by yesterday the indo gone. it. i'll go nazi, but shouldn't the leak directed it daily? while i am in the lesson such turn off. i to stay doc ho anyway, and this is dentalgenius from berlin of next a, d e, a documentary on the poisoning of a town, and should be by toxic waste. don't forget to say up to date on the website and follow some social media. let's see again at the top, the next architecture we're all set to go beyond the obvious citizenship and we're all in. as we take on the we're, we're all about the stories that matter to you. whatever it
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. after the 7th the anyway, this is the cemetery. he doesn't think she's buried here. i believe her death was caused by all the arsenic and blood. we have here day you see a bay? i still asked myself why i was never allowed to see her medical records. but again, why is that english? oh, i wasn't even allowed to take a picture of her. yes, yes, she lost her hair due to the chemotherapy and was completely bald later by a ship every time i wanted to take a photo of her, she said no mama, no. she didn't want to have her picture taken that way.
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medical memorial on her final day, she said, come with me. when i said to her later, darling, medical had rally. she asked me if we have, we don't. i said yes. and then i'll be sleeping next to you. she put her head on my shoulder and drew her last breath, even as i looked the most if it was like when a baby says when alma for the 1st time in my mind, a medical momma, she breathed. mamma, and at that moment i lost her. you will never forget that. ah, [000:00:00;00]
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ah . new phantom all 14 years ago, i began retracing the steps from my home town in sweden. he said to my native country chile and the desert town of r rica. opens thought id ah forgot said 2 places that have been connected. my entire life wanted some unconnected by the mining company. alida will either ah, mona had issue many people here a 6 and thousands initially. they say it's because of the ways it at the beginning of all funded there some to the waste that's left over after we've finished mining for gold back at home after we've extracted the precious metals from the all the
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melman viewed and feel. we've made this film on to tell that story for that visa. awesome. hm. mm hm. yeah, i last. so you're allowed to live. i'm your slim to death yet that next to me is now a large mopping ample. and my 1st question did, how do you feel about what your country sweden for has brought here, gateway you mean the toxic waste? since okay, i think my country's responsible once i would and should do something to help all
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of you as it. i'll go put that aside that ah, lou amy in the mid 19 eighties when chili was ruled by a military dictatorship, bullied and shipped nearly 20000 tons of toxic sludge to a rica in northern. she lay to lyrica. ah give me the nun hugo halted almosha neat, quicksilver. hopefully this lodge contained high levels of arsenic, old mercury, and lead. she landscape all logged prominent tea, maloney toner for lead and paid that she lay in company pro male, $1000000.00 euros to dispose of the toxic waste. but only a fraction of the sludge was processed in promos, furnaces, preston, lip, li,
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kunda. but plumped the rest was simply dumped into a pile on the outskirts of a rica and forgotten may order skill a boost of excel from unless in till whose summer and then it stopped. it forced us project in the years that followed by a densely populated neighbourhood emerged right next to it. off was hagen cleverly that's ah had him vac hon. bullied and is a pillar of society. you might say that he'd helped sustain and provide a living to my community. but what does bullied and have to say about how swedish mining ways will ended up on the other side of the world upon does he then you'd left it on? you're simply not interested in a fair portrayal of this issue or as bleeding as a company was almost yourself, is bailey,
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that's not true. we described go lead in as an important company that has done a lot for the community here than our big dennisville middle liam. and i'm trying a connection between the people who work for bulletin to day and the situation. an oscar germany of the okay, give me a 2nd. i don't think that's fair to the people who work for the company to day with her and that out of bed that may feel well working on this film. i eventually came into contact with one of our lead and former directors. rolf spread buried was one of those responsible for shipping the toxic sludge to a rica. ah ha ha. we led us to wagner. he returned to over eager because he wanted to see with his own eyes the consequences of his decision. ah,
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are you the music over there? where it says casey stain? you who got her by my children used to play there in about a few of them. but where did you hear about the young man who died of the tumor in his head? he was also poisoned. he will give you no one ever told him what was going on. the doctors in santiago didn't say anything because they said it was just that the people here man, easy, g, goofy of your 10 year old children have to take these or 3 months of it and the doctor say that they're insulin resistant. me. i don't understand what's happening here. there are so many drugs in examination with you. i don't understand this
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one. elicit ross is rove. he doesn't speak spanish. laura, beth? yes. well metre. c then yes, this let me, i got, she had to have surgery, they, because of the toxic waste extra nipples grew on her year after mamma. that's why she had surgery did. if she got pregnant, all of these nipples would have produced milk. that's why they had to be removed. i am at it. it isn't your fault that catherine. no, i wouldn't say that. but i feel terribly sad about this and that
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bill and very, very angry. if i had made a different decision, though, none of this material would ever have been sent here. no lantern. again. and when the lena, when he came here to our account, when you eat, tommy came to my house. when we talked for quite a while, they all explained the deal to us with delaware, who am i remember that he was very emotionally affected after visiting the area and talking to the young people there after that experience. and i know that you said the bulletin has to address the damage done to the people there. for me. it was a question of justice. any it on and human rights? it could be a gig when it goes to what i want the my teeth. yeah. do my they did it months, rodrigo, my sampler and i from the moon, rodrigo and i have known each other for 14 years. one of him he is from
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a rica and is an anthropologist. madonna may be true when i 1st met him. he had begun working with the people affected by the toxic waste from sweden. he dog. today he's probably the person who knows the most about the waste scandal, lina rica in chile, both that she lay in state and promo that the company that received the ways men were convicted in court. some took him and a small group of victims received compensation for the damage they suffered elite and their lot on the arbiter men bully them. but bullied and has never been taken to court. i thought a target had o laden has avoided commenting on the a rica case. whenever possible, medical, mathematica father,
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they probably assume the case has been forgotten about clump. we will welcome kimberly. hey you are now but i i, i'd like to speak to eva wooten. yes . hey, you wanna? my name is johan, either from carrot, law, firm in stock overflow. understand the group leaders? legal representative? yes. irene young. go on the um hi, i'm calling because of the exports of toxic mining waist in the mid 1980 to chilling partition. i assume you're familiar with that though at the all to some of nathan, i've been looking into this case for a while. i it together with some colleagues from sweden. she lee and the u. s. and we've prepared a lawsuit her against bulletin, you know about how many customers us are come boldly don't
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ah come said can send malformations bone and joint pain, the waste that believe in ship to jelly in the 1980s. this is dale, causing serious harm to day for 30. 0 no, i'm on 800 people from a poor community in the desert of northern chile. i've lost a claim against the swedish company. mm. with this just if it feels good to see that there are people who are pursuing the matter in a way that we as a feel make is on able to do it. kenyatta if he had or tito from the
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court cases the result of 4 years of preparation which began after the release of a documentary film. as much as the report showed children played in the pile of toxic waste, which was full of arsenic lead, and mercury milan, the waste came from sweden and bullied. and none of this would have happened if the waste had stayed and swayed out a study. ah, we were struck by how symbolic how representative it was of cases of this type. there are many, many situations like this around the world where typically multinational corporations based and developed countries do things overseas that they would never dream about doing in their own country.
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ah lewis gordon lewis gordon is the founder of an american non profit organization, backed by private donors. preset provides legal support to environmental cases around the world. he and a team of swedish lawyers watched our film yet he can. why are we lee too late? i wish for each one of you approve the link between the or it is very crucial for become involved in another stablish to me. we have case
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middleton. this was the case i dreamt told when i was in law school to represent the week against the mighty. this is step tried to let him know his in here at south it's flattened out. problem with the had a platinum, this is your city o f. that book the place where bo laden's waste was kept until 1998 when she lane authorities instructed promo to move the waste about a kilometer away. sedans. coming back for 14 years before that, the sludge was located next to a residential area, volta, exlon, matador nellikka. if you or the people he is say that by that time, toxic dust had spread across the entire area. say that if they had on how to study it,
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it's your middle that a thank you for how the full problem still existed. yeah, i saw the live before we were talking about when the waste was moved in 1988 when it arrived here in 1995 before the waste is still here. it's unbelievable when you watch your film, in fact, it's hard to grasp how close the hoses actually are the who now and nobody there knew anything in follow up. nobody knew what it was or some loss of the wind blows from here, straight over there. what can banana say and nobody knew what it was like them back then they weren't even any walls when this were built later. mommy, the kids we used to come here to play. mommy, dad was easy to get inside, went up what he ended up with. children would play her what were some of the things they would do specifically on my b, m a on people there were piles where kids would play in the dirt. some of them
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built castles with the mud at thought on bought some extra. joselyn is one of the many children who grew up in this neighbourhood in the 1st time i met her, she was 10 years old, the home of t. o. i lived with her family when i was in a rica when that are more of that you've already had you been with and this class had to novick. so i watched her grow up on my visits to a rica, and soon she'll have a baby herself, scone child for bon mm. where it is just to live over there. this is kimberly, at the fair manifest because i'm pregnant. my baby is sharing my blood or you're suffering from drama, from that or,
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and arsenic. and as any asinique as anything the now you're going to have a new member of the family. i only wish that the baby is born healthy in. wow. if i figured that i'd assume with fidel city, i knew that 8000 people in all were tested and 2010 out of 8000 samples. dental 6600 were examined by lab and santiago means and arsenic was confirmed. some of this was so in the $6600.00 samples for arsenic poisoning was confirmed and 12.9 percent of them which is approximately 8 on the person's cpg. jesse by 800 no follow to people who are already part of the lawsuit.
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if i just that minority of the local residence, 825 people, would i have a group of 15000 or 18000 different persona a possible to join a new group of clements. we can add people who have suffered harm, even though the case is already before the court and sweden. if you have arsenic levels of 30 or more, you can join the lawsuit level. lydia with this is a court cases we might win or we might lose just like in any lawsuit. ok, thank you. just think of how many thousands of tons of toxic waste was stored here . it was contaminated with 14 different heavy metals. we presented the case therapy. linda wouldn't have been dealing with a huge company. it has a great deal of power in europe over then it will celia them
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unless given the opportunity to super legion in a swedish court that's already a success even without knowing what will come of it. is it good me now? oh i lost your lars. you're responsible for launching the biggest lawsuit we've ever had here. so era really? very common health and home garage. huh. thank you. so this is our home for 8 weeks . we'll public gordon walker's each guy. yeah. can you watch out, dan polluters from f? we're coming for you. ah, it old been old austin robin? olden tom, i'm
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a lawyer representing bulletin in this case of over and i won't be we know fairly well what they'll say. we've been exchanging arguments for several years now. it's been a long journey job. my name is lucille sydney, head of communications at belinda boley. them so boldly the hard so bullied and has done nothing wrong here of it. so these are so be our stand point is that we have a responsibility to clarify what happened, support the cleans with back fact to the everything is on the table. oh, it is an emotional chase is an important case for many people including gleaton ball. so we have to get to the bottom of this would almost be what it and get closer to the truth. lovable would necessarily be the most spectacular truth from it. it should be that they did not the full truth, larosa oliver older than it must have been thus far less. at 1st i said,
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slog the case is the 1st of its kind in sweden. both sides have submitted thousands of pages documenting the various investigations a show and the evidence take these denise thing. mm aah. sees it for the hearing will begin in case t 1012 slash 13. between the adrica, plaintiff and bullied and mineral able long board us even both sides have brought in witnesses and scientists from all over the world explorer experts on chile and law, meteorologists, toxicologist, as soil experts at chemists semi metella, jessica politicians and former employees and directors were schafer, under meaning 7 holden, utter cassie them till exam, but expanded plaintiffs from a rica will present experts who will support the claim. that toxic levels of arsenic were found in the urine alteration,
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and that it originates from bullied and smell to sludge. all fun. i am a professor at chapman university in california. and my expert opinion, the smelter sludge, is a clear and significant a source of arsenic in the area to discounted as a source of arsenic, takes the tremendous stretch of imagination. when i 1st heard from one of the lawyers that the bullet and waste had 17 percent arsenic. i didn't believe it. i've never heard anything like that. a pile of waste that close to a city to with that high of arsenic concentration. in one moment, how did you tell your children that they're all there is going to die in
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let me lesson. they thought of your thought. he was my reason for everything. he managed that and they till came from me. pathetic would at e this is could a kathy a little less than darrow's could have him, and then we have plaintiffs here as well. i got the 2011 study showed that there are high levels of arsenic here. anyhow. cardinality that honeywell, that you're going to read. this is a woman who lived in the house with the bars of them. she sold the house and died of cancer, danita con, and lived next door. she had an aggressive cancer in her head and died to the new for you. he died yesterday and the wife of her son had a baby who died. but her son doesn't want to talk to anyone about it or hear
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anything about the contamination. and another neighbor, muddy subpoena had the stomach cancer. the woman who bought her house had a tumor on her face, put in the men across from her, also had cancer. and then there's so many cases in yes, it seems like every one here and marty on madina, she had ovarian cancer, qualified by the time she died, the cancer had spread everywhere. then there's mrs. yaya who also died of cancer. it started in her years and spread that and then there's mrs. today's us husband, who also died of cancer. he had lung cancer and skin cancer gum to libya and then mottos, father, we spoke about a molar more mo, nicoli, irv reger, i guess. what's the health situation like in other parts of attica, is he got a home in the area near the disposal site is very striking in american advice. not only compared to the rest of america in dummy, but to all of chill,
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little british employed of cancer. when we started our research and 25 a, we didn't find higher rates, i can start in particular. but to day, there are cases in almost every family that in the areas near the disposal site. the levels, like a rate of cancer, is much, much higher than in the rest of kilo elephant to lena in the gutter. yolanda roberson santo lasagna re a bill dog who hung up for listening to him was very interesting. he paints a picture of what he sees as the situation in the region to us, but as so often, i don't believe his account holds up as evidence. it could be that in 1998, when people became aware that a big pile of potentially hazardous materials were stored there and they began to see it as the cause for all sorts of things for you. it became an explanation for all sorts of things. just as
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a different orient logged ah offs on that. the still melody. a rica and bullied and are a world apart like 2 worlds that never meet the reality of what is happening on the other side of the world. you seems far, far away, long or less than under estes hey you, i'm me fall now you had to live and all my father worked, the boy lead me and visited chili when the sledge was being so philadelphia of i'm sure he died in 2008 other off, but often talked about how they, he and his bosses knew that the waste would not be handled properly in chile,
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the case haunted him for the rest of his life. gone down to sleep on either my father, i spent his entire working life a whole year then in his last years he was dragged into the fray a little slow. okay. to funds hold saddam somebody until you meet them all to toilet. so even in the mid 19 eighties, there were people who doubted that the slides would be handled safely. and chile, on accordions, father, martin lindstrom, appears on rovers, fed buried photo from a rica. now you amanda, that epa. oh yes, that's my father. definitely. man bulletin, thoughtful carter said at thought o laden's, lawyers say that the company because of its visits to a rica who grey to precautions than they were required to. and that it was
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impossible to foresee that people would be exposed to the waste at mann middle school. espanol for off holland best you can jump into some of some sorts of hindsight and foresight are 2 different things. and nom hindsight, there is an elegant english phrase here, hindsight bias sham, which describes a psychological phenomenon where we as human beings, when we think about an event. in hindsight, some will tend to believe that it was much more predictable than it really was. more than incredible, by just vol tour, monee for left or cash intense people in this town won't even dare to think that believe may have done anything wrong. they are the only thing my father sent to that effect was. we understood that they wouldn't take care of the material pro play. he never said, i understood it your, but i don't know what he meant by. we may be only live else that way or maybe there was some kind of consensus among mist off that they'd never have dad speak about it
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openly. so i'm like when say ad hoc official, martin lind smudgin, lindstrom passed away several years ago. well, and anna caught in can't find anything in her father's note books that refers to the regrets her father expressed pins. there is nothing that could be used as evidence in the courtroom. ah, conversation and you see. so 12 good. yeah. i just want to add that yeah, i want justice to be done here, tara lisa. my. my son was killed. kin, my boss, we who, who killed your son? why bo, lead a and my dad,
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they sent me took secretarial here. and he knew exactly what they were doing. arcs are on the we have no further question there for all. look. nolan, fill them out. lessons on your side. i know your honor like locked up at the opposing party, has no questions. the hearing us over now. be heard, so to tire in stock form one other or we feel her for almost all to mother if you sleep all did. and i dare say that this was bullied as plan talk aren't all. this is what happened was when big multinational corporations are accused of causing damage with their activity. incident azusa huge summons are spent on experts and consult and muscle from level to produce hundreds of pages worth of reports of the theme, all with the goal of obscuring your what is evident, i believe, and hope that this court has the ability for you to see through all that, all awesome. thank you from or got see
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a young thank ah bully them in that of manish name. all it into lead that on those. carla bullied and claims that the plaintiffs suffered no damages. and if they did, but it's not the result of their waste. bullied and doesn't even describe it as waste. who did salad material of negative value did the rest of the out and they got the bad. ah. but i'm in that. ok. so they also said that if bleeding and as the a rica side claims them, it has contributed to a humana tearing catastrophe. then this was something the company could never have predicted say,
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ah, how are you? good, thanks. a bit nervous, nervous. that it? yes. oh and you course still have the chance emotional for 11 years of work boils down to a single minute 11 a m from alga. ah no no metal this are you ready to 400 from okay, here we go. okay. the verdict goes looked at footmen. mm hm. okay. oh i,
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i need to talk to the people here. what's the verdict of bowie and why, but in that one ah ha. the interest roosevelt, pacifica we have in our course were very disappointed we hoped for a different outcome. morgan morgan, there are many, many people in the city of attica, or who stayed up all night there night. it's not fair. it's not fair. you know,
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in our lives and now they're not even taking responsibility for it. i have no idea what we can do now. this proves nothing. well that it proves is that money talks and they have plenty of that. oh, i believe, but i think the directly like grammar. we're sorry we raised your hopes, right? but i also want to ask for your forgiveness, another one. then you don't have to do that to rodrigo, that we're very grateful for all the work you have done that. yeah, i know you thought that she would win so bizarre. we all thought we would win. but how do i? i'm in shock. yeah, i can hardly knew. we didn't stand
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a challenge. so let me know. life was a goals believer at all. or during this preceding bulletins rule on the material from bronze care when an organ had been thoroughly scrutinized and then on the conclusion is unequivocal. i call on the residents of erica, we want to try to accept the results of the investigation home to sure. and this trial, in fact, to say, she left a teen threat hardballs, but the might have to she, lance, the swedish court decided to apply. she lay in law. so the statute of limitations hadn't expired. when i bought it bought the verdict, states that there is no proven connection between bullied and toxic waste and the arsenic are found in people's urine to sierra despite the fact that the court says bullied and acted negligently. and it states that this is not relevant. because
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a level of 30 micrograms of arsenic per late of urine does not represent tom. instead the court said a new level for damages at $100.00 micrograms, which is what bullied and had asked for bill epa. oh, ado caught the not on and the to the to seem to me am men the men. ok, so the lawyers for rica of course do not agree with the verdict, but they also say that the court has made an important error on empty and hooks up in chile, the supreme court decided that 19 micrograms of arsenic per liter of urine all represents hom, which the swedish court did not take into consideration all the lawyers are convinced that they can win on appeal on them. come been hold oh ha.
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ah, i can i see us. i got a 30 minute verdict is read the key for you. ah no longer it is. oh she yes. oh handle martin i'm sorry. it didn't work. the court now decided to apply swedish law to the case also on the lease where a place if it's the statute of limitations. yes, some tor. a plot this i can't believe it's they just mr. due to the statute
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limitations and didn't consider anything else up. no, they took the easy way out with the c o. v pharmacy. both the how many from sat up only than a comment on them. so bullied and got away with it because they did nothing all this time. they didn't act in a timely manner and so they avoided taking responsibility might help us in finance law get out near and if polo or pod is called, if you can bury toxic waste and your liability ends as soon as it's in the ground, you then in 10 years, it's no longer your problem. the children affected by bullied and toxic waste have their claims barred by the statute of limitations before they're even born. or chris could be, are the don't even know for those ah, yes, fort, it's difficult to accept that justice has been done. ah, don't students get
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a quote from to let the court should have told the whole truth. and but now that the court has ruled that the statute of limitations has passed levels, the truth never even got a full hearing. so we will never know what the justice system believes about bulletin is responsibility for what happened, you know, rica for decimal. yeah. i mean, we should claim a right? so citizen, it's not our fault. they got money from the government to bring that toxic waste that contaminated our life. we have to join forces and fight for justice. ah ah
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