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was reporting a, but he's reporting on a spike of robberies in santiago, when a pirate decided to demonstrate the problem by making off of one of his air boots and kudos to mister from for carrying on like a pro gun. it will not be, but shouldn't vilegas it. bailey while i am in phillip in such a cheeky indeed, and fair play to me for not freaking out. this is dw, you supply from brit him up next, a d. w documentary on the poisoning of the time, sheet 8 by toxic waste. and you can say up to date on our website. i'll be back again. the top, the next are take care. oh, where natural spectacle improved the world. the return of the spiky yellow with louse will ensure the survival of the entire ecosystem. one of the many success stories from
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if the 7th avenue, this is the cemetery. thing . she's buried here. i believe her death was caused by all the arsenic and blood we have here day you see a bay. i still asked myself why i was never allowed to see her medical records. what good, why is that? he was alone. i wasn't even allowed to take a picture of her if she lost her hair due to be chemotherapy and was completely bald late of a ship every time i wanted to take a photo of her, she said no mama, no. she didn't want to have her picture taken that way.
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medical brumbalow on her final day, she said come with me. when i said to her later, darling medical that rally. she asked me like we have, we don't know. i said yes. and then i'll be sleeping next to you. she put her head on my shoulder and drew her last breath. even when i looked it was, it was like when a baby says when alma for the 1st time you made a mamma, your medical smile. she breathed. mamma, and at that moment i lost her. you will never forget that. ah
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ah, no from tom all. 14 years ago i began retracing the steps from my home town in sweden. he said to my native country, chile and the desert town of our rica earth installed on audio full consent to places that have been connected my entire life wanted some unconnected by the mining company, alida, and we'll either mon, the had issue many people hear a sig, and thousands initially, they say it's because of the wasted at the beginning of all follow this up to the waste that's left over after we finished mining for gold, back at home afterward extracted the precious metals from the all. the millennium viewed a field. we've made this film on to tell that story for that visa. awesome. hm.
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okay. yeah. i'll add a yellow to this. i'm just into debt yet that next to me is not salary. lush, happy mantle. my 1st question, dear count, you feel about what your country sway jennifer has brought here. okay. what do you mean the toxic waste with cynthia i i think my country's responsible once i would and should do something to help all of you. as her uncle put it aside with her ah
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lou image in the mid 19 eighties when chili was ruled by a military dictatorship, bullied and shipped nearly 20000 tons of toxic sludge to a rica in northern. she lay to lyrica. ah. they in none here. go hugged almosha neat quicksilver humbly. the sludge contained high levels of arsenic, old mercury, and lead she landscape boot log from l. t milan a corner for lead and paid that she lay in company promo, $1000000.00 euros to dispose of the toxic waste. but only a fraction of the sludge was processed in promised furnaces reston, lip, li, kunda. but plumped the rest was simply dumped into a pile on the outskirts of
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a rica and forgotten may order skill a boost of excel from our list in till whose summer and then it stopped. it forced us project in the years that followed by a densely populated neighbourhood emerged right next to it. off was her again live only. that's ah had him on that con, bullied and is a pillar of society. you might say that it helped sustain and provide a living to my community. but what does bullied and have to say about how swedish mining ways will ended up on the other side of the world upon does it on yield this afternoon? oh, you're simply not interested in a fair portrayal of this. is she or of bleeding as a company? yes, it was a must do service bailey. that's not true. we described go lead in as an important
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company that has done a lot for the community here than i'm being dental school. and my mom and trying a connection between the people who work for bulletin to day and the situation. an oscar germany of the, of the desert. i don't think that's fair to the people who work for the company today, a counselor and that ought to be it that my feel all working on this film. i eventually came into contact with one of bullied and former directors rove the sped buried. was one of those responsible for shipping the toxic sludge to a rica. ah ha ha. we led us to wagner. he returned to over eager because he wanted to see with his own eyes the consequences of his decision. ah, i am the sick over there where it says k 15.
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if you cool, glad i my children used to play there in about a few them. but what did you hear about the young man who died of the tumor in his head? he was also poisoned. he will do. no one ever told him what was going on. the doctors in santiago didn't say anything because they said it was just that the people here in uneasy g o, b, 10 year old children have to take these 3 months and the doctor see that they're insulin resistant. i don't understand what's happening here. there are so many drugs in examination with what i don't understand this a long time.
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elicit ross is rove, he doesn't speak spanish aloud. i bye beth yes . well metre. c then yes, this, i mean, she had to have surgery, they, because of the toxic waste or extra nipples grew on her year after mama. that's why she had surgery did. if she got pregnant, all of these nipples would have produced milk. that's why they had to be removed. i am at it. it isn't your fault to catherine. no, i wouldn't say that. but i feel terribly sad about this bill and very, very angry. if i'd made a different decision, though,
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none of this material would ever have been sent here. no lantern. again. and when will we know men again when he came here to our account? 20 wait till we came to my house and we talked for quite a while and they all explained the deal to us. and we have to tell them when i remember that he was very emotionally affected after visiting the area and talking to the young people there after that experience of another that he said the bulletin has to address the damage done to the people there. for me, it was a question of justice needed on and human rights if any, a gig when a go so that they might have with the fia intimidated months through that ego, my sampler, and i from from all rodrigo and i have known each other for 14 years on of him, he's from a rica and is an anthropologist. madonna may be true when i 1st met him. he had
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begun working with the people affected by the toxic waste from sweden. he dog. today he's probably the person who knows the most about the waste scandal, lena rica in chile, both that she lame state and promo that the company that received the ways men were convicted in court some to him and a small group of victims received compensation for the damage they suffered elite and dear lot on the arbiter men bully them, but bullied and has never been taken to court. i thought a target had o laden has avoided commenting on the a rica case whenever possible that accommodate each other. they probably assume the case has been forgotten about clump.
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we will welcome kimberly. hey you are now but i i, i'd like to speak to eva wooten. yes . hey, you wanna? my name is johan, either from carrot, law, firm in stock overflow. understand the bulletin is legal representative. yes. hurrying and go on the i'm her i'm calling because of the exports of toxic mining waste to the mid 1080, the chilling partition it i assume you're familiar with that. you thought you all to some of nathan. i've been looking into this case for a while. i it together with some colleagues from sweden, she lee and the u. s. and we've prepared a lawsuit her against bulletin gilbert from andrew curtis anderson circum, boldenow. ah,
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count can said malformations bone and joint pain. the waste that's believed in ship to chile in the 1980s. this is dale, causing serious hom today said that a call 800 people from a poor community in the desert of northern chile. i've lost a claim against the swedish company mm. with the shuttle it feels good to see that there are people who are pursuing the matter in a way that we as a feel make is on able to do it. kenyatta if he had or tito from the court cases the result of 4 years of preparation which began after the release of a documentary film. as much as the report showed children played in the pile of
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toxic waste which was full of arsenic lead and mercury. and the waste came from sweden and bullied, and none of this would have happened if the waste had stayed and swayed out a study. ah, we were struck by how symbolic, how representative it was of cases of this type. there are many, many situations like this around the world where typically multinational corporations based and developed countries do things overseas that they would never dream about doing in their own country. ah,
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lewis gordon lewis. gordon is the founder of an american non profit organization backed by private donors that provides legal support to environmental cases around the world. he and a team, a swedish lawyers watched our film. yet he can hire a will be too late. i wish for each one of whom believe between the actor it is very crucial for become involved in another family. we have okay. miss young. this was the case i dreamt told when i was in law school to represent
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the week against the mighty. this is step tried to let him push no kiss in air. at sight. it's flattened out of the hat a plot. this is you city o f, that bull the place where bo laden's, a waste was kept until 1998. when she lane authorities instructed prom l to move the waste about a kilometer away. lance can mean bought for 14 years before that. the sludge was located next to a residential area, volta, exlon, matador in the liquor. if you on or the people he is say that by that time, toxic dust had spread across the entire area. say that if to not read on how to study it, it's your middle that a thank you for how to fix the problem still
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existed. yeah, i saw the live before we were talking about when the waste was moved in 1998 and when it arrived here in 1995 before the waste is still here. oh, it's unbelievable. when you watch your film, in fact, it's hard to grasp how close the hoses actually are here now, and nobody there knew anything in follow up. nobody knew what it was or some loss of the wind blows from here, the straight over there. what can banana say and nobody knew what it was like them back then they weren't even any walls when this were built later. mommy, the kids we used to come here to play. mommy, that was easy to get inside went up what he ended up, the children would play her. what were some of the things they would do specifically on my the m a on people they were piles where kids would play in the dirt. all of them in some of them built castles with the margin
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at thought on bomb. so makes of joselyn is one of the many children who grew up in this neighbourhood. in the 1st time i met her, she was 10 years old. the home of t. o, i lived with her family when i was in a rifka on the normal one on that you know, body a job with and this class at 10 o'clock. so i watched her grow up on my visits to a rica and soon shew have a baby herself, scone child, full bottom where it is just a little over there. this is the simply of them by fast, because i'm pregnant. my baby is sharing my blood, or you're suffering from drama from that or, and arsenic, and i say me, arsenic as anything. the now you're going to have
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a new member of the family hillock. my only wish is that the baby is born healthy in. wow. if i figured that out and assume what fidel city i knew that 8000 people in all were tested and 2010 out of 8000 samples. dental, 6600 were examined by lab and santiago means and arsenic was confirmed. some of the diesel. so in the $6600.00 samples for arsenic poisoning was confirmed and 12.9 percent of them which is approximately $800.00 persons cpg. yes is the by a 100 load hipaa. we are already part of the lawsuit. if i just that minority of the local residence, 825 people would, i have
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a group of 15000 or 18000 persona a possible to join a new group of clemons. we can add people who have suffered harm, even though the case is already before the court and sweden. if you have arsenic levels of 30 or more, you can join the lawsuit level area. but this is a court case. we might win or we might lose just like in any lawsuit. okay, thank you. just think of how many thousands of tons of toxic waste was stored here . it was contaminated with 14 different heavy metals. we presented the case don't. belinda wouldn't have been dealing with a huge company. it has a great deal of power in europe over then it will celia them unless given the opportunity to super legion in a swedish court. that's already
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a success even without knowing what will come of it. if the and good me now oh i lost your lars. you're responsible for launching the biggest lawsuit we've ever had here. so era really? very common hell come home garage huh. thank you. so this is our home for 8 weeks. we'll public gordon walker's each guy. yeah. can you watch out, dan polluters come after we're coming for you? ah, it'll be an old austin robin alden's, tom. i'm a lawyer representing bulletin in this case of a widow and i won't be the we know
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fairly well what they'll say. we've been exchanging arguments for several years now . it's been a long journey job. my name is flossie nielsen. needle, head of communications at belinda boley. them so boldly the hard so bullied and has done nothing wrong here of it. so these are so be our stand point is that we have a responsibility to clarify what happened, support the cleans with back fact to the everything is on the table. oh, it is an emotional chase is an important case for many people including gleaton ball. so we have to get to the bottom of this would almost be able to get closer to the truth. lovable would necessarily be the most spectacular truth from it. it should be that they did not the full truth, larosa oliver, older than it must have been. thus far, left at a frustrated slot. the case is the 1st of its kind in sweden. both sides have
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submitted thousands of pages documenting the various investigations show and the evidence take these denise thing. mm ah sees it. the hearing will begin in case he 1012 slash 13, between the attica plaintiff and bullied in mineral, able long bored us. either both sides have brought in witnesses and scientists from all over the world explorer experts on chile and law, meteorologists, toxicologist, as soil experts at chemists, semi metella, jessica politicians and former employees and directors were schafer under meaning 7 on an advocacy them until exam, but expanded plaintiffs from erico will present experts who will support the claim, that toxic levels of arsenic were found in the urine alteration, and that it originates from bullied and smell to sludge all fun. i am
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a professor at chapman university in california. and my expert opinion, the smelter sludge, is a clear and significant a source of arsenic in the area to discounted as a source of arsenic. it takes that tremendous stretch of imagination when i 1st heard from one of the lawyers that the bullet and waste had 17 percent arsenic. i didn't believe it. i've never heard anything like that. a pile of waste that close to a city to with that high of arsenic concentration. in one moment. how did you tell your children that their father's going to die in? let me let some they don't look at your thoughts. he was my reason for everything.
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he wanted to and they took, came from me pathetic will that e this is, could have cathy a little better than darrow's good of him. and then we have plaintiffs here as well . i got the 2011 study sure that there are high levels of arsenic here. anyhow, other name the honeywell not to let you are going to recover the woman who lived in the house with the bars of them . she sold the house and died of cancer. donnie t. conan lived next door. she had an aggressive cancer in her head and died to them . you for you. he died yesterday and the wife of her son had a baby who died. but her son doesn't want to talk to any one about it or hear anything about the contamination of a year. and another neighbor,
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marty subpoena had the stomach cancer. the woman who bought her house had a tumor on her face, put in the men across from her, also had cancer way. and then there's so many cases. this seems like every one here. and marty on monday knew she had ovarian cancer, qualified by the time she died, the cancer had spread everywhere. then there's mrs. yaya who also died of cancer. it started in her years and spread you can and then there's mrs. teresa's husband, who also died of cancer, he had lung cancer and skin cancer and gone to libya and then mottos, father, we spoke about a molar. more melanie korea bigger. i guess. what's the health situation like in other parts of attica, is he gets a home in the area near the disposal site is very striking. you know that we can in place not only compared to the rest of america in dummy, but to all of chill, little british employer cancer. when we started our research in 25,
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if we didn't find higher rates, i can start in, but the will f. but to day, there are cases in almost every family that in the areas near the disposal site, the level of legal rate of cancer is much, much higher than in the rest of kilo elephant tnf and the grocer. yolanda roberson santo lasagna bri abused all who hung up for listening to him was very interesting. he paints a picture of what he sees as the situation in the region to us. but as so often, i don't believe his account holds up as evidence. it could be that in 1998, when people became aware that a big pile of potentially hazardous materials were stored there when they began to see it as the cause for all sorts of things for you. it became an explanation for all sorts of things. just as a different orient logged ah
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offs thought that the stu melody, a rica and bullied, and are a world apart. like 2 worlds that never meet the reality of what is happening on the other side of the world. you seems far, far away, long or less than under estes hey, you am me for now you had to leave and all my father worked the bullied me and visited chile when the sledge was being sold on a deal to have. i'm sure he died in 2008 another off, but often talked about how they, he and his bosses knew that the waste would not be handled, proclaimed chile. but the case haunted him for the rest of his life gone down to
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sleep. ringback i failed to avoid either my father spent his entire working life and then in his last years he was dragged into the sand at the sledge hammer. okay. the funds to hold saddam somebody until you meet them all to toilet. so even in the mid 19 eighties, there were people who doubted that the slides would be handled safely. and chile, on accordions, father, martin lindstrom, appears on rovers, fed barracks, photo from a rica. now you amanda, that papa. oh yes, that's my father. definitely. man bold. it inside of a cotton said at fido laden's, lawyers say that the company because of its visits to a rica who grey to precautions than they were required to. and that it was impossible to foresee that people would be exposed to the waste up managed
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escalates. bonita, ralph holland, best you can jump into some of some sorts of hindsight and foresight are 2 different things. and nom hindsight, there is an elegant english phrase here, hindsight bias sham, which describes a psychological phenomenon where we as human beings, when we think about an event. in hindsight, some will tend to believe that it was much more predictable than it really was incredible by just vol to up monet for left or caching fence. people in this town won't even dare to think that believe may have done anything wrong. they are the only thing my father sent to that effect was. we understood that they wouldn't take care of the material pro play. he never said, i understood it your, but i don't know what he meant by. we may be only live else that way or maybe there was some kind of consensus among mist off that they'd never have dead speak about it openly. i'm like bowman say ad hoc
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official. martin leans. martin lindstrom passed away several years ago. and anna caught in can't find anything in her father's note books that refers to the regrets her father expressed pins. there is nothing that could be used as evidence in the courtroom ah, conversation and you see. so 12 get on with you. i just want to add that yet. i want justice to be done here, tara lisa. my. my son was killed. gin motto, asi, hulu. killed your son. why? bo? lead a and my dad recently took secretarial here,
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and he knew exactly what they were doing. arcs are on the we have no further questions for all. look, nolan, fill them out. lessons on your side, please. i know your honor like locked up out of the opposing party. has no questions. the hearing us over now be heard so to tire in stock form one other or we feel her for almost all to mother if you see out did. and i dare say that this was bullied as plan talk aren't all. this is what happened was when big multinational corporations are accused of causing damage with their activity. desousa huge sums are spent on experts and consulting muscle from recall to produce hundreds of pages worth of reports on net, seymour all with the goal of obscuring your what is evident, i believe, and hope that this court has the ability for you to see through all that all awesome. thank you from or got see a young thank ah
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bully them in that of manish name. all it into lead that on those. carla bullied and claims that the plaintiffs suffered no damages. and did it if they did, but it's not the result of their waste. bullied and doesn't even describe it as waste. who did salad material of negative value did the rest of the out. and they got the bad. ah. but i'm in that. ok, so they also said that if bleeding and as the a rica side claims them, it has contributed to a humana, terry, and catastrophe. then this was something the company could never have predicted say, ah,
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how are you? good, thanks. a bit nervous, nervous. that it? yes oh and you course still have the chance emotional, who? 11 years of work boils down to a single minute, 11 a m from alga. i note in the metal this, are you ready to 400 from okay, here we go. okay. the verdict goes, looked at fulton, graham. mm hm. okay. oh i, i need to talk to the people here. what's the verdict of
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bowie and what, what in what ah, from the officials melded pacifica. we have that, of course, we're very disappointed we hoped for a different outcome memorial. there are many, many people in the city of attica, or who stayed up all night there night. it's not fair. it's not fair. you know who and our lives and now they're not even taking responsibility for it. i have no idea
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what we can do now. this proves nothing. well that it proves is that money talks and they have plenty of that either i believe, but i think that the actually really grandma, we're sorry we raised your hopes yet. but i also want to ask for your forgiveness another the one you don't have to do that to rodrigo, that we're very grateful for all the work you have done that. yeah, i know you thought that he would win so bizarre. we all thought we would win. but how hello i am in shock. yeah, i can hardly knew. we didn't stand a challenge. so let me know.
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life was a goals leaders role or during this preceding bulletins rule and the material from from scare when an organ have been thoroughly scrutinized and then on the conclusion is unequivocal. be at home, i call on the residence of erica, we want to try to accept the results of the investigation home to sure. and this trial, in fact, to say, she left a team threat arvalo but the, my dish aliens, the swedish court decided to apply chilly and law. so the statute of limitations hadn't expired when i'm bored about the verdict states that there is no proven connection between bullied and toxic waste and the arsenic are found in people's urine to see it. despite the fact that the court says bullied and acted negligently and it states that this is not relevant, because a level of 30 micrograms of arsenic per late of urine does not represent tom.
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instead the court said a new level for damages at $100.00 micrograms, which is what bullied and had asked for real epa. oh, and who caught them up on in the to the, to seem to me a moment. men, the men of the lawyers for erica, of course, do not agree with the verdict, but they also say that the court has made an important error on empty and hooks up in chile, the supreme court decided that 19 micrograms of arsenic per liter of urine represents hom, which the swedish court did not take into consideration if the lawyers are convinced that they can win on appeal on them come been hold oh ha ah i can i
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see us i got a 30 minute verdict is read the key for you ah no longer it is, oh she yes. oh handle martin, i'm sorry. it didn't work. the court now decided to apply swedish law to the case also on the lease where a place if it's the statute of limitations. yes, some tor, a plot this i can't believe it's. they dismissed you to the statute limitations and didn't consider anything else. no,
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they took the easy way out with all the pharmacy companies from sat up only than a comment on them. so bullied and got away with it because they did nothing all this time. they didn't act in a timely manner, and so they avoided taking responsibility. my philosophy francois get out near and if polo or audience call that you can bury toxic waste and your liability ends as soon as it's in the ground. you then in 10 years it's no longer your problem. the children affected by bullied and toxic waste have their claims barred by the statute of limitations before they're even born. or chris could be either don't email them, photos. ah, yes fort, it's difficult to accept that justice has been done. ah, don't students get a quote from to let a court should have told the whole truth and but now that the court has ruled that
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the statute of limitations has passed levels, the truth never even got a full hearing. so we will never know what the justice system believes about. bo laden is responsibility for what happened rica for this amount with we should claim our rights as citizens. it's not our fault. they got money from the government to bring that toxic waste that contaminated our life. we have to join forces and fight for justice with
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