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washington: ah, once a week miss attends, did they have in the church at that time? and what role do catholic women want today? what i need 60 minutes on d w. i and i live and on demand. con gas language courses, video and audio. any time, anywhere that d w media center. mm hm. ah, he sees just in the history books. it is very much a part of us. we remember for us to refer to shape our
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future. when we say never again, we have to mean it was when it's to the problem with today's culture of remembrance is that we embrace jews to the point that they can't breathe. germany is once again debating how it deals with its nazi past. and the issues of guilt, remembrance, and responsibility. should there be more focus on other dark chapters in history? is the culture of remembrance, changing, and if so, how? we head to south africa where a museum is exploring parallels between european and african history. we also go to israel, where the younger generate has rethinking the way the holocaust is remembered. but
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we start to show in germany a country that thought he had learned how to come to terms with its past. but his now realizing that it's an ongoing process with me in november 1938 anti semitism, took a violent turn throughout germany, nazi's burned down synagogues, london, jewish homes and stores and murdered many in the ensuing holocaust. the showa, in hebrew, millions of jews were killed. remembering these victims and acknowledging the country's historical guilt for the crime is committed under national socialism is a fact of life in germany. the nation has faced up to this dark chapter in its history. it's been a rocky journey fraught with hurdles, but the holocaust is central to the country's culture of remembrance
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versus got on finances. so i like the fact that it's clear that we keep the past alive and when, when you look to all the countries, you soon realize a culture of remembrance of upholstery shames. crimes can't be taken for granted. hooked on to say this duty helps us learn how important it leads to also keep others memories. a life can view nana vista of both of the document envelope for them. about 22000000 people in germany have a migrant background. meaning one him for like he doesn't identify with the countries historical guilt for nazi crimes. and that change is how people look back on history. now the spotlight is shifting to another murky chapter. your reps, long ignored crimes during the colonial era. germany, it's struggling to confront its responsibility of a button up, improved, or ford lying on when it comes to sweeping colonial crimes under the car. it all
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the former colonial powers have the same attitude and germany is no exception, i think. and is your high tone, namely, kind of like annette. they won't admit anything until there's no way around it. and they string along the victims for as long as possible. cause along a hint, the smoky mud. ready ways. ready onto the germans praised but how admirably they deal with their dark past with. ready ready no other country in the world has faced its past, so encouragingly declared jewish philosopher susan nyman in 2020 does not only apply to the holocaust, did the nazis crimes talk all other crimes against humanity. it's a controversial question. why does guilt for nazi crimes play such a key role for germans? how do they face the historical truth? and how are they now trying to been shut down new paths? venosity flag when it comes to the question, how can we get young people with
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a migrant background interested in the shower? it's 1st important to change our choice of words. hum connie, that some say they're not interested because it's not their history, but that for the fundamental misunderstanding to view the show of german history or instead of human kinds history, i done thought the question always implies it that it doesn't interest them. but that's not true. the stim sapa newer cima wants to promote understanding. the aim is to boost awareness by asking simple questions as to what does the holocaust have to do with me. and why are we talking about in the home? didn't do that. we were in his rule as museum director, i knew livi tackles anti semitic stereotypes and jewish self images keep ideations with all these topics. it's always about the past and the present. the question is always what do people want to see? what do they want?
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haven't confirmed, how far are they willing to venture onto another path? ah, shallow to the demand has written a book whose title translates as understanding the pain of others. it explores how we deal with historical crimes as showered off all i look at the ideas we have about victims. how can we establish empathy with victims and their descendant farm? yes. and why, as i empathy often so unequally distributed ah, feed among visited the site of human rights violations. and not just in europe, she meant victims of atrocities and their descendants. i'm. she views the holocaust in the context of what she referred to as a global universal memory. probably the thorny asked question. she asks,
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concerns empathy, which victims and historical crimes evoke empathy in us? but it helped us in fights for me, say about i was just myself that i tend to feel more empathy for victims of national socialism than for colonial victims. had to put us not to nozzle. i don't like that reaction, but that's just the way it is. how they can assure infant about us. it's a result of various influences. if you play one to tune. ninja, a lot of eda man was born in germany. 9 years after national socialism ended. her father was a member of the party. he kept silent about his nazi past. like most people as an if was i'm to dispose sean, i think at some point it's too late to have the talk. families should have about the topic and but what's new to day? i think that's why is that today's racism, anti semitism and fall right?
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crimes are making young people ask new questions. like, what are you doing? pardon, what to help victims muscle. what are you doing to help bring the perpetrators to jumpstart? was likely upon more people are asking what can be done, but of course, against the backdrop of what happened here in the past. i, when i'm truly put, afforded esynthier. i'm a professor. undeserved, a lurched, and for yeah, i know. you know, google inebriation, christina from athens or mont, november. no, it's known that after dice ish, will that ask avoided for not to nozzle phillotson and bond restrict lesbian. a memorial in the lavette social assaye in berlin since 1960. but a monument wasn't built until 50 years after the bloody pock romeus targeting jews . it's a reminder of how the nazis used the synagogue as a site to round up juice for deputation. from here they were loaded into trucks or forced to walk to the freight train station sometimes at night and sometimes in
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broad daylight with every one watching the whole coast vo, i'm the holocaust, was a crime that involved countless people should be often in the places where jews lived for the lord, it was a crime that many profited from him. he's a homeless in the people looted from their neighbors i. most importantly, however, his boss was that this wasn't just a mass murderer, people to put a symbolic murder, the systematic, he planned extermination of the jews of europe. germany's railey historian danina calls it a rupture and civilization, the nazis called it the final solution. thus planning them, i thought i heard you guys come on top of the database, 2000 mention of i'm on like the target of myself once diesel adela
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i think i in the final solution adult iceman sentenced to death in israel in 1961 in germany. those responsible for the crime of that outfits stood trial for the 1st time. in 1963 the trial took place thanks to the efforts of attorney general fled spouse. put the bearing in the face of germany that largely wanted to forget the shame of its nazi past and against a web of intrigues within the german post war justice system. to day immemorial in frankfort commemorates his fight, for remembrance is key. additional did hope he was not only concerned with the holocaust. it wasn't just about him as a jewish emigrant himself knew. it wasn't just about the crimes against the jews. he was just as concerned with the crimes against cynthia and rome. i believe you
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own from he was concerned with the rehabilitation of deserters, but he also wanted to assess the world war for what it was fostered, an illegal war of aggression and injustice creek. um, so he always had the bigger picture in mind. mc. germans only grasped the full extent of the holocaust in 1979. when mobbing chomsky as many fairies, holocaust hit tv springs, it unleashed long buried feelings and repressed memories and made it impossible to look away from nazi tara and how it to the families apart. what is his cry? what has he done? said the, it's you don't want the scenes were suddenly in every living room in germany and people started rethinking german identity and the holocaust holocaust is. the series was designed to trigger exactly bad us to treat and the broadcast or reacted quickly. and that it's sensitive and realised this development needed to be backed
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up. this award winning documentary to picks the socio political background and explosive atmosphere in germany following the broadcast of holocaust in 979, only to buy food at ocean harlem, mom. i need the geek notice derrick. 20 kind siena alst via bump. man. like after in spent it asked me to one must to send us copeland's to swiss francs act and desist union sponsored your fish. not what it's. i am got an export. the dump faucet is in dam lager and it rots in kilograms feler spring not on. suddenly the whole nation was talking about the enormity of the nazis crimes finding new ways to make history immediate until noon from it for the future. saba nor cima read the diary of anne frank as a child with her parents own experience is as refugees from pakistan in mind. today,
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she advises the government undeveloped concepts for the prevention of racist and anti semitic violence. of the candidate assumed the core i dare is that young people should empower themselves that i should frame their own opinions, share their experiences and understand that their story too can be relevant or important to columbus. luxurious to live, i'm fine with every site. and frank diary made her a symbolic figure in the history of the holocaust. the learning lab at the anne frank educational center in frankfort invites guests to interact with her story. and when 92 experiences and perspectives of young people to day education can have a decisive influence on how history is remembered. the island through this course, what we learn in school is important to developing a culture of remembrance of what we remember. and what i'm doing is ultimately derived from our education fis, has spot to more recent discussion about gym and colonialism. the crimes committed
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in the colonial era are still badly addressed in history lessons. why is so little attention paid to the victims of genocide such as in former german south west africa all the crimes of colonialism, overshadowed by holocaust remembrance. it's a sensitive question from the polarizing one. and for me to name, there's one really important lesson from the showa. it's that you must never so people fates, into hierarchies. germany's culture of remembrance was years in the making. decades of research and schools have solidly entered it in mainstream society, keeping the memory of the holocaust alive remain is a challenge. not just in germany. mm hm. ah. in israel, remembrance is also being reconsidered now that the last holocaust survivors are
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dying, their grandchildren and great grandchildren are mulling ways to remember the past without them tel aviv israel 2022 on an autumn afternoon. 2 generations are coming together. hannah mancha and sharon wenus. they are involved in the initiative to koran by salon remembrance in the living room, which brings holocaust survivors together with young israelis in a private setting that they, they are is that we are doing it together. we're thing together. we're listening with 1st we listen and then we share and then we talk. and the columbus fell on the purpose is not to remember for the sake of remembering, we remember for us to repair, to shape our future. when we say never again, we have to minute hannah, mocha is 99 years old. she survived the treat in stock ghetto that forced labor and the ocean its concentration camp. she shares her experiences and meetings with
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younger generations held around the world and also online rest. oh, her service as a beetle need to understand what happened massive so they can prevent it from ever happening again. dish the daily they need to understand that things that appear to be minor can result in terrible things like that life. people think it can never happen again. but many forget that and seek or on basle on helps them understand how people act back then i say yeah, it should assume it narrow little under them. hell the future of holocaust remembrance is also a central concern at the out vashem israel. holocaust memorial in jerusalem. which opened in 1953 escaped yet to day. and israel, they're a very, very few young people who are able to hear from their grandparent's 1st hand about
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what happened back then. by, in other words, soon the eye witnesses will no longer be able to speak to us directly. there are fewer and fewer that has major implications because that means that a very natural connection to the subject. namely through one's grandma grandpa is disappearing. vic fit the hall of names and yet for him, a place of remembrance for the 6000000 jews who were systematically murdered. in the name of nancy ideology, the museum's goal is to use documents, personal possessions and survivors. testimonies to convey to future generations. what happened the international school for holocaust studies is also a part of yard for him. an educational institution for teaching the history of the sure confidence changes in the culture of remembrance are underway here as well. again, this is a nice little ferguson. i've seen the thing we have to understand that is really,
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society is very, very mixed. may say that it is a very heterogeneous society. you will in israel, about half of the jews in israel are of european ancestry, ash, canarsie jews. others have their roots in iraq, north africa, and yemen. and for them there may be a cultural bond or a national bond through israel, but not necessarily a biographical one. these are you shipping all of a niche omitting of your graph issue? it is the 3rd and 4th generations in particular that are being impacted by these changes. here at the school, estella who trains young students studying to be teachers 6 years ago, esther decided to make a lawyer and emigrate from germany to israel. as it's from an and family and so on the one hand we are getting further and further away from the events of the holocaust illness as well. and of course, and israel, we already geographically distant from the places where the holocaust took place and had the places where the family histories existed before the persecution of the
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holocaust alcohol. mm hm. from on the other hand, the family connections are just not as strong as they were for the 2nd generation. weatherford, it's fight again. that's who on the future of commemoration is also a concern at zacharon bas alone, 10 years ago when it was 1st initiated by a younger generation, it was still small. but today it is almost gruen into an institution itself. and being given a place among official commemorations now to johannesburg, south africa, where studying european history is helping young people come to terms with their own country's experience of violence and oppression. the south african metropolis of johannesburg. at the heart of the sprawling cityscape is the holocaust and genocide center. it's founder and executive director is tally knights who was born in israel in 1961. the historian has lived in south
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africa for nearly 4 decades. she's dedicated her life to this project. it was never a museum come while. don't engage in any more. we wanted people to come again in again, visit temporary exhibitions, visit our resource center, come to events, come to phil's, come to dialogues, engage that was very important to me personally into all of us. tale nights and her team spent a decade planning, collecting donations and networking. the center opened in 2019 and became part of johannesburg. cultural life architect lewis, levine, drew up his design, consultation with survivors of the show her and the genocide. in rwanda, it's architecture that makes the history more tangible. the railway lines are embedded in rock and stone. they are not parallel, they are going to the sky and the railway lines symbolize journeys,
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journeys of the holocaust beyond julie's of gentle fine journeys of oppression and suffering. journeys of modernity that brings progress, but all sole pain. since the 19th century, south africa has been home to the largest jewish community in all of africa. but this place of remembrance is not just for them. it's also for the poster parties, nation as a home and young people, especially. so why do you choose them to tell are the histories because in the country that suffered from a very painful past, and he still struggling with that past off colonialism off racism of apartheid. it's very difficult for us to actually speak about ourselves. everything in our minds is translated through our own history. it is easier in a way to have another entry point. roughly 30 years after the end of apartheid,
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the chasm between rich and poor is still very evident. reconciling the divide is a mammoth task for south africa's democracy. with children, the racial and the honoring policies that were created by the nazis have resemblance to a bought of dave laws in south africa in i'll be very honest with you. south africa still struggling with racism and inequality. in fact, i'll africa is now most unequal country in the world. so a lot of that is between the different races. so there's a reality, we can't deny that. and so when kids come through this center, it's an opportunity to speak about that. and to address that, since the way the violence against african migrants in 2000 a night, conflicts continue to flare up xenophobia and racism. a themes that the center aims to tackle together with students. and teachers like mumsy melinda from red hill
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high school. my parents did tell me about a part in what they went through and is so see some of those things. you know, when i teach my kids about my students about a potted, i make them look around the immediate environment and say to them, what do you see? that is the legacy of a potted, in other wits way. is the evidence of those things. so it's very, very important that they make those connections and also to see that history is not just in the history books. it is very much part of us history. that's not just in books, like these pieces of clothing, for example. they belong to people from the tootsie minority in rwanda, brutally murdered. in 1994, the violence was stoked by racist propaganda on the radio. a genocide in heart of africa. since then it's been crystal clear to tarley knights. it's essential to fight against hatred, indifference, and silence. rwanda was always v. it had to be be
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this outburst of violence. deadly deadly violence is really important to speak about how quickly things can happen, how quickly, almost a 1000000 people can be killed. you do not need to build an outfit, you can just kill with your hands with machetes with grenades with knife. and i think for us in south africa, we're wonder, more than other cases of jail site is the most important case to the center works with volunteers like irina class. born in 1931. she experienced nazi brutality as a child in poland. here and now she tells her story. ah, from 9 years onwards i lived was my mother,
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my uncle and my grand mother. one small room in the warsaw ghetto. sinks were not easy at all because i had to almost grow up of a night for many years. i couldn't talk about my experiences by my story. couldn't die was me. i felt i had to bring back surpass tarley nate's. his family history is also part of the museum. what? because 2 of her relatives names were on oscars. schindler's list. her father moses here on the left. and her uncle hendrick survived the holocaust. being on that list said their life. i am the memorial candle, so i am carrying the memory off the family. and i'm very, very proud that this a center in a way is a legacy is
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a legacy project to the family members that were murdered. those that survived a passion for, for history. but the passion for learning from history, understanding history and learning from it for this tally nights is the recipient of the 2020 to go to metal. that was arts 21 with some new perspectives on remembrance called turtle. good bye for now, and see you next time. ah, ah, ah .
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