ah franklin oh, ready knows. welcome to talk about hackers and paralyzing entire societies computers than us. some are you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can only count wilson for, and that's how they can also go terribly. watch it now on youtube. sh the 2020 to mid term elections in the us have coming gone, but the ballot counting, it still has a ways to go. it may be weeks until we have the final results so far. the balance of power on capital hill is tilting slightly in favor of the republicans, no big victory, but no dreaded defeat for the democrats either to night trying to bring american

democracy into focus. what's it look like from this side of the atlantic and the election picture painted by the news media? enough realism or too much of the abstract. i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day. ah, yes. friends at the unexpected hyper. now i'm again glad to report that today's election went very smoothly. this alleged to prove that when republican state, i'm just on real world solutions or can we can when, if we do go into this next session of congress with the slim majority on either side. it will continue to be contentious. i never expected that we were going to turn these red counties blue when we did what we needed to do, just like

a major to watch and it could take a while for some cities to report their unofficially. we will be in the majority and nancy pelosi will be in the minority. at this point, we're not sure exactly is going to be in control of congress. but to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day still waiting for midterm election results in the united states. it's exactly what we were doing 24 hours ago with one big difference. us lawmakers are no longer expecting a republican wave of victory in congress and democrats no longer dreading major defeat either. but uncertainty. it remains high, the balance of power in the u. s. congress, and what that will mean for the future of the bite presidency. these remain unanswered tonight. we want to go through some of the key races with results that we have right now. it. it was a big win for the republicans in florida. rising republican star rhonda santas

easily defeated his democratic challenger charlie chris to stay on as governor. the winds cement his status as a potential candidate for the white house in 2024. the race between a democrat raphi, a warnock and republican herschel walker for george's seat in the you said it, it will now go to a run off election in december. warnock is the pastor at the church where martin luther king once preached. walker is a former american football player with a high profile, but scant if any political experience democrat katie hobbs. she is leading republican carrie lake in the race for arizona. governor lake is a former television news anchor and the chosen candidate of former president donald trump. she claims that the 2020 presidential election to know was rick twice. and john federation and the democrats, they've emerged as the winners in the key senate battle ground state of pennsylvania. and it means victory flips the republican held seat in the u. s.

senate federal men who you may remember suffered a stroke during the campaign, has portrayed himself as a champion of the working class. he beat dr. maim at oz. a wealthy heart surgeon turned tv personnel. that was the race that almost everyone in the country was talking about democrat, john federal dealing, the republicans, a decisive blow in the battle for control of the u. s. senate, the tattooed candidate wearing his trademark hoodie, credited his every county every vote to campaign strategy with helping him to victory. i want to take a listen to what he had to say. every county, every now, every county, every move and that's exactly what happened. we jammed them. oh oh, we hit the line. i never expected that we were going to turn these red

counties blue, but we did what we needed to do. and tonight that's why i'll be the next. you are senator from here. with me here, the big cable now is our chief international editor, richard walker. the world of course, following these mid term elections more than ever before, richard and rightly so on this day after the election, kind of talk us through what we know where we are. yeah, well i mean, i think we had the, the word relief referred to in the bike and ministration that, and i think, you know, looking at it from european capitals, i think a lot of officials in european governments are also going to be pretty relieved by what it what seems to have happened. you know, there was a genuine fear and this kind of based on experience with mid term elections, which often bring around a pretty big setback for, for a party that's in the white house. the biden may have gotten away with, you know,

only losing control of the house by relatively narrow margin and potentially even keeping control of the senate. i think this will be seen as, as, as a significant positive for european governments who really mean by them for them has been a huge boon compared to the complete kind of disorientation that was, that was created during the trump is where europeans sort of thought, what kind of relationship, do we have with united states any more, but of course it's not over yet as we've been hearing. you know, the fact that the, you know, it could be the run off in georgia in december that, that is decisive here. so that the story is not over yet, but quite a bit of relief. biden has been a boon for europe, particularly in the crisis, the more in ukraine with us funding us weapons. we know that republicans have

signal some have signal that they have control of congress, that there may be no more blank checks for. yeah, correct. yeah, i mean to, and this has been a concern also obviously for the credit, but also in europe. interesting in the republicans quite divided, you have the kind of the trump wing and some of the populace that isolation. this tendency is pretty strong, that trump had his, his kind of slightly unusual relationship with vladimir putin. and yet the messages was coming, coming out from some of the sort of trump style candidates that you know, even they might pull the plug on funding altogether. and kevin mccarthy is like, will be the leader of the house. and he was the one using that expression, no blank checks. he's sort of tried to moderate that a little bit since then. but i think what will be of some concern for the training is that it now basically funding for support for ukraine will now increasingly get tied up in us politics. these divisions,

the republican party frictions of the between the republicans in the democratic you know, the fact that even in the best of times, we saw what happened on the a bomb administration with the republican controlled congress. you know, trying to block, raising the debt ceiling. so that, you know, you have government shut down, you know, if support, you train gets tied up in all of this kind of political drama. that's going to be worry for you. you know, we've talked about this numerous times in the past couple of years. there has been this question from washington. can concerning nato, for example, the question has been post is germany is still a reliable partner. now let's turn the tables here, looking at the selection. if berlin looks at the u. s, as itself is the united states, still a reliable partner in terms of democracy? rule of law. what's the answer? yeah, well, i mean, i think there'll be some comfort taken from, from this not being from that perspective, a worst case scenario. but, but really, i mean that, that kind of shock to the system has already happened. you know,

it had through the, from the storming of the capital was really the pinnacle of it. you know, sort of beginning to realize, wow, let the united states is politically unstable. and very senior official who i was talking to recently, you know, did raise the, you know, what happens if the wrong guy wins in 2 years. you know, now this person was thinking about trump, trump looks of it, we could coming out of this. but as we've been hearing, rhonda census, the governor of florida comes out of this looking very strong. so i think one take away is definitely going to be from this. a lot of european governments really going to start taking a closer look at rhonda scientists and thinking about ok, what happens if he becomes present next time? what does that mean for our relationship with them? very good point. richard walker is always richard. it's good to have your analysis . thank you. ah, how do the u. s. midterm elections look from this side of the atlantic?

what is the picture of american democracy as seen from here in berlin? joining me here at the big table is the team hot ferry, a member of the german parliament with the social democrats party. that's the s p d. it's also deputy chairman of the german u. s. parliamentary friendship group instructor. it's good to have you bags get to see you again after, after this long pandemic. what do you see when you look towards the u. s. at the moment we, we see all the problems, but tonight we just feel relieved that things didn't go really bad. so what better than yesterday, what would, what would have been from, from berlin's perspective, what would have been a worst case scenario? starting with the worst case scenario that we can deal with. but the worst case would have been that election denies, basically people that one that are willing to blow up the democracy. the democratic system of the united states would get into very important offices where they can do it actually. and the american voter were not in favor of this idea. so mostly not

that feels a little better than yesterday. do you think most german lawmakers would say the best case scenario would have been a sweeping democratic victory for congress? probably at this time, the democratic party, we feel a little closer to the democratic party for several reasons. yeah, because of the trump experience, of course are. but if you look at republican governor of georgia, so he resisted the call for election. and i also know it's a question of value. it's not a question of left and right in a question of republican them credit. it's a question of whether you stand for the republic, right? yeah. yeah, and i know you spent also a lot of time in the us, you know, a lot of congressmen, congress women. how did they explain to you this incredible polarization to politics in america?

most would describe it as a process. it has been going on for a long, long time, not only since the election of donald trump, but before that has a lot to do with, with money, with the 2 party system. of course it has to do with a frustration about the government, general the government in washington. you remember that and washington is broken, the tea party movement back in the day. it's a lot of things i just cumulated now to this personal of the republican party. and of course mr. trump was the most important symbol to it. and we will see whether it's just him or more to that movement. and i believe there's more to trump, isn't that just mr. trump? so we will have to deal with it in the future. we've heard this week from several commentators here in germany that the, the, the actual, the polarization or the break in the breaking down of politics. and america began in 2000 with al gore, not becoming president. and we've heard this week at time and time again,

almost lamenting. if gore had become president, the world would be very different climate change would be a lot further. is there, is it that type of wishing that things could have been different among german law makers? when you're talking about the u. s. no, we're not wishing for governments and other countries and not in the united states as well. but, but the united states, the most important country in the world are most important outside europe. and it's, it's broad as democracy. so we're thankful for that forever, but we're really just afraid, seriously afraid of the democracy in the united states. so it's not too much a matter of whether a democratic candidate wins or republican will probably, i'm a social democrat so you can think of it. i find more sympathy for but you know, the important, the important issues that institutional values of balance of or status. we

say the rule of law. yeah. both law so. so this is, this is what it's taking. this makes us feel uncomfortable, and this is not related to party politics. a considerable number of republicans who were elected yesterday due to congress with our election deniers. i mean, you even have some who say that joe biden is not the legitimate u. s. president. how do you as a member of parliament, how do you imagine working together with them when you go over to watch and you go over all the time and how do you sit down and talk to them? i find common ground. if they are representative of that country of their state of their voting district of the constituency, that's what they are. but then it's $11.00 value less we share, right? so it is a problem. it is a problem not only for the united states self, but also for us and for the relationship, but you know, there are other countries around in the world where you don't share all the,

do you really believe? is there any that these election denies? do they really represent a majority of the people in the districts where they come from, or are they through the primary system through gerrymandering, a voting district, or are they the result of extreme politics that's gotten through the system? well, i, i would say that after the trump election, we all know about the deficits of the, of the voting system. and i would say to this point, so representing more people are the democratic value of obviously there are a lot of cases where it's not the case, right? so both gerrymandering on the other issues you mentioned. but at this point, this is what we have in the united states, right? we have to accept that it's unfair. it's not representation is, is an issue. but we, who are we outside the united states to judge that it is a business i'm united states and you know, you know, the history of germany. so other people have also issues. so i wish the best for united states for the people of united states, but also of course, for the well global order, because we need the country joe biden,

versus donald trump in 2024. many say that that is where we are headed. what goes through your mind is a german law maker. the prospect that in 2024 you could have again, donald trump is u. s. president. long way to go. so we will see now who's going to be candidate for the republican party as i understood the re election results in the state of florida. there might be an issue no the next month, but maybe tomorrow i'm going to be candidate for the republicans. and we see what the debate goes and with the democratic party as well. so it's too old to say that, but what we do know is no matter who's going to represent what party trump isn't this frustration with representation. and democracy generally will be an issue in the united states. so we should be just calling off of those people to try to make the, the life of people better in the united states and hope for the best for democratic values. you know, this is the company as i said, pro,

democracy to our country. so there is there still a lot of trust left that they will, they will do it. it's good to hear. you start very, as always, we appreciate your time, appreciate you coming in to see you get. thank you. thank you. i am going to say to today and everything is live we want to get right to our top story. americans are casting their final votes on this election day in one of the most consequential mid terms in decades. that's being counted in the crucial mid term elections in the united states. so me just after 8 pm there were you are, this is the hour when the 1st one of the results is expected. what should we be preparing for? but i just want to step back again and just look at this map. but that's not a read wave. that's nothing like a read wave. the republican party needs to do a really deep introspection. look in the mirror right now, because this is, this is an absolute disaster for the republican party. and we need to turn back. so

the 3 big losers again donald, you know, they all begin with the letter d, right, and election deniers. and that is how we in the news media, the mainstream media, if you will, reported the u. s. midterms on tuesday to night. we want to ask, did journalists get the story right? and to discuss that, i'm happy to welcome to night fight your own guards are gone. she's deputy opinion editor and newsweek. she is also the author of the book. bad news. how woke media is undermining democracy. it is a sobering assessment of what happened when journalism in the us went from a blue collar trade to a profession of the elite. but it's, it's good to have you with us. so let me just start by asking you how i have the news media reported the story of the mid term elections in america. ah,

thank you so much for having me. i, it's great to be here with you. so yeah, i mean, you know, we got this wrong, i got this wrong. a lot of us were looking at the polling and we were listening to voters and talking to voters. and one got the sense that there was going to be a huge red wave that voters were very upset about the economy. and that the democrats had failed to coalesce around a singular message on the economy and how they were going to make things better for voters. you had a lot of voters talking about crime and 2000000 illegal immigrants crossing the border. you know that they break down of the rule of law. and there was really the sense that they were going to really rebuke the president's party, which is very normal by the way for midterm election. and i just didn't happen on, you know, the senate is leaning towards the democrats. the house is maybe a little bit leaning towards their public and they might take the majority of in a very small way, you know, after the elections in 20182020 in the u. s. we talked with a lot of pollsters such as you gov as well as gallop. and they admitted that the

reliability of polio now has to be put into question because the traditional method of interviewing people on the telephone, sometimes it's become almost impossible. as a result we here, we've been very hesitant to rely on polling numbers, leading up to the mid term elections, of the u. s. that was not the case among us networks and cable news for example. why do you think that was why rely on data that is, you know, in suspect that's a really great question. and you know, we got to fill the time somehow right there. but i mean, seriously, i do think that, you know, we have in this country we don't, it looks like a political divide, but it's not, it's really a class divide. we have 2 parties that by and large, cater to the elite of either side. and then we have mass mass amounts of working class and middle class americans who really rarely get to have their say. and our

media as a right in my book is so deeply committed now to the voices of the leads that rather than going out and actually talking to voters, it media characters pundits, journalists just like politicians would rather sit there and look at numbers and then prognosticate about them. so i think it's that sort of disconnect between the media, which is really part of the elite today. and then you know, the masses of americans who don't get to have their say, let me ask you about this, this term lease. i mean, journalists are, we are like it or not, we're, we're gate keepers even with the internet and with citizen journalists, we're still gatekeepers. and that, that gives you a amount of power also authority, great responsibility. so is it, it's not necessarily a negative thing. is it i think if your job is to tell the great american story, you know, the 1st draft of history to signal to politicians and people with immense amounts

of power. what they should care about needs very bad to live in a way that not only has elevated you above your fellow americans. but what has happened as a result of that is journals have developed a lot of contempt for average americans. and i think that's very bad. yes. i know. i mean, i mean i, i, i take your point there and i'm wondering to what about the, the role of journalists as educators, reporters. i noticed in the run up to the mid terms were saying, non stop that us voters blamed the u. s. president on the they blame him for inflation. they blame him for the economy. but i, very, i saw, and very little attempt at reporting and educating people about the fact that the president may have actually very limited means of stopping inflation quickly. and that, that may actually live with central banks. for example,

where the u. s. federal reserve, we didn't see those attempts to educate the voters. instead, what we saw was reporters just saying, voters. blame the president. why? why do you think we're reporters dropped the ball there? i'm honestly, i would never, ever prison to think that i should be educating a single mom, working 2 jobs and commuting an hour. either way, i would never dream of thinking. it's my job to educate a truck driver who sits in a truck for 14 hours a day delivering every morsel of food that you know we and on the coast put in our mouths. i would never dream of educating a person who works on a rail road like that. that's just not my job. my job is to hear their concerns and let them back to the rest of the american people. and you know, my life is so much easier than working class americans. it is so much easier than that, that the struggles that black americans face with crime in just exploding in their

neighborhoods. and the working class struggling to achieve an american dream that is no longer in reach. i just don't think that that is our job. i do think most people in the progressive in liberal media do think it's their job to know voters what to care about. but that's why they've lost credibility. well, what, what about the role of the journalist, particularly the united states, to help support informed electorate. you mean you want, you want smart voters going in to those polling stations and making informed decisions, right. do you think that that responsibility has been sometimes forgotten in the, in the news media commercialized, news media. the you, us to tell you i have never met a person who is struggling to make it, who is not deeply informed about what they, who best represents their interest. like that is not something for us to tell them they know that. and the idea that somehow there's a piece of information that they're missing that would make them vote for the party

that we in the leads believe better represent their interests. i've just never bought into that. i just don't buy that. i think people know what's in their best interests and, and i think the problem with the media today is that we think we know what's in their best interest, but they know what's in their best interests. i've got one more minute job actually conversation. look to 2020, 2024. yeah. we don't get to live every day. i mean, it's almost a luxury of what would you, what would you hope for the coverage of leading us to 2024 and the next presidential election. i've got 30 seconds. i have to tell you, i think the, the narrative that america has never been more polarized is a total myth, middle and working class americans have never been more united about the values that this great nation was founded on its people who make money off of trying to divide us and get power off of that, who are just making up this story about polarization and i just wish we would stop and we would actually reflect where voters are at where americans are at. yeah,

building to bridges there, but you will go on it should have your the show. we appreciate your insights. come back and talk with us. i sure we're going to have many reasons to talk in the future. thank you. thank you. well the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find this on twitter either w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv. remember whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody who's with with

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