a findings are that are, are that this is likely caused by a ukrainian air defense me, sorry. on the, on the we have no indication that it was in the deliberate to talk on natal. totally political i think you very much, just a brief question. has there been any communication between nato and the russian authorities, even on a technical level, over the past 24 hours regarding russian activity close to nato's borders. thank you. we are me though, lawrence over communications, so we're able to communicate with verifying different way. so as nathan us allies about i can of going to the diesel. exactly what kind of content have been the last 24 hours lecture, valencia, i thank you. does the fact that the polish government, even after hours of assessing what had happened, was still ready as of this morning as i understand it to possibly ask for article

for consultations? does that indicate to you that they do not feel reassured? despite all of these measures that have already been taken, and you said that you're constantly assessing and you've got things on top of our, our military planners making any, any additional plans at this very moment to send more to poland, to reassure them. because obviously this is a credible scenario since they had an article for teed up even after investigations were under way. thanks. as i spoke with post and do last night. so we agreed the owned importance over awaiting the outcome of the investigation. we don't have the final outcome of the ongoing investigation about her at all as agree on the assessment that i just shared, that we have no indication of this was a deliberate attack. and of course, i've asked consequences for what kind of responses that we need to take since we have no indication of these also the liberal attack or death. russia is planning

and the offensive interactions against that nato allies. but we also agree that the russia bears the ultimate responsibility. they are responsible for the war in ukraine that her has course, this situation and her if the hadn't been for the war. of course, we wouldn't have been in this situation with the 2 casualties and the, and the instant the we are, we saw in pulled in yesterday. but allies agree on the approach or there's been a cold for an article for a meeting. and that's based on the findings based on the analysis. and based on a results so far over the ongoing investigation gauge, he got secretary general ju, just sat there to everything would be done to protect the allies. know the village, rare the missile hytcher yesterday was very close to the ukrainian border. so in

order to effect the fee, protect poland from incidents like these in the future. would it not be conceivable, or make sense from your point of view to extend the nato air defense umbrella into ukrainian territory in order to intercept missiles, which might be headed to a potential targets near the ukranian. poland, $49.00, not ported to the conflict in ukraine, and nato and i draw lies, provide support for ukraine, and we help ukraine to uphold the right for self defense. and that's the right which is enshrined the new and shorter. and of course, ukraine has the right to defend itself against russia, the legal war, aggression against that ukraine. and our main priority in our one of the top pro, to now is to provide that more air defense systems for ukraine. and our air defense systems are,

are set up to defend against attacks around the clock. but we have no indication of this was a result of a deliberate attack. and this incident, or does not, i have the characteristics of an attack. and others explains or why the reactions were, as they are, were last night because it is also not the deliberate attack. and then all didn't have the characteristics of a deliberate attack against natal territory. a only i was faced with daddy jim and cbs 2 questions that i made. the 1st one is a more personal one. everybody was very scared, i think yesterday evening, everybody understood it could be potentially very dangerous situation. how was your personal reaction when you 1st heard about it? and if 2nd one is about you said that debris that was found is probably for an, a ukrainian at defense maceo the ukrainian foreign minister said this is the russian conspiracy theory. and it's not true. are you,

how do you judge that that he made this judgment on the origin? thank you. last question. and give us it is, it is a rational conspiracy theory that it is ukrainian at defense missio. but your preliminary findings are apparently very different. thank you. well, the investigation is arnold finally concluded a, but based on what we so far know, this is most likely ukrainian air defense or systems or miss ours. but again, this is not ukraine's fault or russia barrister. responsibility of what happened in, in, in poland yesterday. because this is a direct result of the ongoing war and the wave of attacks from russia against the ukraine yesterday. and of course, ukraine has the right to shoot down those missiles that are targeting ukrainian

cities and the, and the uncritical ukrainian, or infra structure. or then, then nathan, all is prepared to for situations like this. we are exercising. we, our preparing for instance were accidents. so i like this to 1st and foremost to prevent them from happening. but if they happen to ensure that, that on spotted auto control. so yes, of course we were concerned when we got the reports yesterday and especially we were saddened by the fact that there were 2 casualties. but at the same time, we are monitoring a we are following very closely on the on. therefore, we are prepared to handle situations like this in the firm called resolute

way, but also in a way that printer throw the escalation on transfers. thank you very much. think general, you've said repeatedly that nato has all the capabilities along these in front and, and that you're ready for these sorts of incidents at any moment. so was this a failure of nato's defense is that this missile was able to hit polish territory? well, in defense systems and east and they are set up to defend us against attacks and, and the, an attacks massage screws misses, ballistic missiles there has special characteristics and which we then we fall of on the, on the monitor and then make a judgment, whether it's an attack or way, the song, some something else. as i said this was most likely i a ukrainians, them air defense me sold is ray. and of course that that me side doesn't have the

characteristics of an attack. and therefore, that explains also why the actions were as they were on the, on the doesn't say anything about our ability to defend against the deliberate effects against that natal territory was for jenna much down michael's wall street journal. just a couple more factual questions if possible, if the analysis yet shows this, do you know if there was a russian missile in the immediate area that the ukrainians were specifically trying to target? and do you know if the ukrainian missile exploded on the ground? if it exploded potentially in the air in contact with the russian and miss allen and what was on the ground was just shrapnel or debrief from that. thank you very much. all are they are relevant questions um, but i will not go into details partly because so there is an ongoing investigation

ah, on the on the we have to decide later on how many details we can we'll but anyway, there are ongoing investigation, so ongoing investigation as well, okay, into those issues. getting that lady of them, thanks. you have been listening to nato's secretary general young stoughton berg. he was speaking in brussels after a crisis meeting of nato ambassadors. he stressed that an investigation is ongoing into the explosion on the polish ukrainian border. he said that there is no indication that russia had launched a deliberate attack and no indication that russia is planning an attack on or on nato territory. he said that it was probably a ukrainian air defense missile, however yankee and shelton burg stressed that this is not ukraine's fault. he said

that russia bears responsibility because of its war on ukraine. and he said that nato stresses it strong solidarity with poland and will continue its support for ukraine. and we will speak now to our brussels correspondent bank legal who has been following that press conference for us bank. can you sum up for us again, the main points that jen stoughton berg made their yeah, the most important point is that the investigation is still ongoing. so the facts are not officially established, but in stoughton back made very clear that nato is now at the view that a ukrainian ad defend system was the rocket that was shelling there in poland. and he stressed many times. that is, this is not ukraine's fault. he said, this is russia who is to blame for this because russia is verging the bore against

ukraine. russia is fighting all these rockets on, civilian targets like yesterday, and ukraine has every right to defend itself against these rockets. and unfortunately, something went wrong there. obviously a stray rocket that fell down in poland and he was asked many times also if this not shows that the air defense systems of nato of poland, other nato countries on the border of ukraine, assembled not efficient enough, but he said this was not an attack this was not a rocket launch to a tech somebody, but a rocket launch to defend some somebody. and that's why the nato air defense systems are not responding to this according the well, this is military, it may be a little bit shaky. this argument because every shell or every rocket that comes into nature tears, you should be at least, you know, detected,

and then may be fired upon. but this has to be established elsewhere, and this is start. make also said that nato is now trying and looking into and to boost its own ad defense and also to provide more ad defense capabilities to ukraine. so that ukraine is able to shoot down more russian rockets that are coming in and in a daily basis. and teeth are stored, mac also made an effort to calm down the situation so that it not spirals out of control. nato is not willing and able to get into direct conflict with russia. so is it clear that you think that this incident in poland will be focusing the minds of nato countries about the dangers being drawn into, into the conflict between ukraine and russia? yeah, the secretary general installed begmen very clear that this is not over,

that nato is looking into its own capabilities and also into support for ukraine. so this is a stark reminder that something has to be done. obviously, something is not working well on the eastern border of nato. all right, and we get, leave it there. and so much fear reporting from brussels. and we can talk now to d, w as reporter in warsaw and j gosh, as im enough ski gosh, nato secretary general stalsen berg pledging to beef up it's defense along the alliances eastern borders. is this response likely to come nerves in poland? would you say, well, i would say nerves are pretty calm in poland, both the government and the people here, you know, they all knew what's at stake in such a situation. and the government has been has been messaging very calmly

and urgent calm. and i think from my conversations in war so people. ready people were also following this advice, but this announcement from the started bank will definitely play into the polish polish coast for enhance natal presence in poland and on nato's eastern flag . and it's, it's nothing new. poland has been outspoken on this issue for years now. and it will definitely i think this crisis will definitely rain for is the pledges from the. ready polish government and, and pulling this has also been very outspoken about support for ukraine. it has delivered big number of arms for ukraine. it's the show during the ukraine. refugees and i don't think anything will change on that front too. so. so what exactly is it that the, the polish government wants from nato mean

a certain book was asked in the press conference about the idea of extending the nato air defense healed into a poland. 2, to protect the border from incidents like this that have just happened. i mean, is there anything concrete? the opponent is asking for? oh, it's not yet. i don't think good. i don't think it was the time for that yet. the government too, was concentrating on the investigation and on establishing the cause of this accident. i think this was the top priority this night, this last night. and i think this is the discussion we will be entering now. and. ready are you know, i'm just a, i'm just, i'm just thinking that this is the, um, this is the priority to cover mental said in the future. daresha manascale, thanks so much. nasa has finally launched its new moon

rocket artemus twice aborted and delayed. today the new rocket, the most powerful ever built at last blasted off on its noon quest. 50 years after nasa's last lune emission, it brings the u. s. a step closer to putting astronauts back on the moon, which aims to do by the year 2025. 32. 1 boosters english and left off of autumn is one 3rd times a charm for art him is one now says next generation moon rocket gate blasted off from florida after a series of setbacks. just 2 hours before lift off, a leaky vow was detected. an emergency team was sent into the blast danger zone to repair it. a nerve wracking wait for the engineers. we are tracking

the red crew to technicians and a safety representatives that have made entry to the launch pad and are currently inside the compartment where the leaky replenished valve is to launches in august and september were cancelled due to technical problems and a hurricane. but patience has paid off any untrue admission is headed for the moon . nasa says the o'ryan capsule has now separated from the rocket and should soon circle the moon on a 3 week test journey, so called moon akins are on board. fitted with sensors to simulate the conditions for astronauts. i rather suspect that a lot of people and plane a nurse or going to be tuned in to when a in 2025. we land humans again for the 1st

time and a half century. and one of those humans, which is the 1st woman and the next man, that's when a real mission will begin to establish a lunar base station as a launch pad to eventually land humans on mars. i'm very pleased to welcome use of ash buffer, who's the director general of the european space agency. he joins us now. welcome to d. w. now there is a major european kimono component in this mission. can i ask you, how did you feel when you're watching that launch? or you can there feel you can really feel attention and all the excitement that is going on at this moment. i can tell you this was her, and he could re moment of joy, but also relief that there are the 3rd attempt was successful. so ah, this is just wonderful. but also i would like to say that you are, can be very proud of this moment because you are this together with the united

states going to the moon and making sure that your i own capsule is so broad there safely and is flying back her to earth her thanks to your be a service module. so something where you can be really, really part of mr. ashby, how can you explain to us why this is a historic moment for space exploration? when this is a historic moment, of course sir, we're going back to the morn, 50 years after the apollo mission, but now this time we go to the mall. first of all, it's not us alone. and in competition with the ussr at the time i did this time or it is to us going with partners with international partners and europe, easter, by far, the largest partner on board, the south miss mission. but this time, also it not only is it is her and international partnership. it is also a mission where we are going to stay and build up infrastructure and build up or a new way of for living and her and exploring the moon. so face, under, eventually even make business up on the moon, us hoodie,

economic opportunities for which will arise. so yes, this time it's very different and quite exciting for europe. there are no people on board, but i believe there are 2 to mannequins on newton's. i think i think coach, can you tell us what their role is? yeah, the motor kin, sir, there are 2 of them on board. and, and they have different sensors, sexually hundreds of sensors on board and to really measure what they are exposed to during this 3rd trip up for a bit more than 3 weeks. it's mostly ideation which we are measuring, but also many other components environment, all the components and so on. and this is a very important or experimental for us or human. so to understand what the exposure will be, but also do how to protect ourselves best one of them has or a certain investor which protects them or for the ation in, in a different way than the other one. and we would like to see what is the best or yup, protection of for a human service. eventually, humans come vote. i come and go to the morn and stayed there for quite some time.

so yes, so this is absolutely important for us to. so wife and live well on, on the one surface with this launch, nasa is returning to the noun, 60 years after the and the apollo program. why did the moon lose its appeal for half a century? and why go back now? ah, why left? the appeal is a very good question actually for everyone working in space or this is difficult to imagine because as you can imagine, many of us are having seen the, the apollo landing has been yeah, really bit by this or barker, which is the space bug or have been engaging in space activities or technical engineering type of activities like myself for to say that that was really inspired body by the moon landing or for neil armstrong or at the time while her serv come down a bit in terms of excitement of investments is certainly to do with her with

the fact that at the time when apollo was launched of a huge investment made and it was clear that this level of investment can not be continued. so therefore, for purely economic reasons. so there was a reduction of, of investment made, but now since a couple of years space again, is in a new era offer of evolution or even the evolution where new excitements come up. and this is clearly visible. the outcome is serv. obama obviously being one of them, but also the commercialization which is taking place right now. that more and more private people, commercial people are investing in space and a launch a completely new domain, economic domain where space is used up for daily life or weather forecast. farming for, for ship quoting navigation and so on, but also by private people to develop their businesses. and this is a very exciting moment in which we are right now is the vash the director general of the european space agency. thank you so much for speaking to us. heritage.

debbie. thank you. now the use climate chief has said that there is a still a long way to go in negotiations at the united nations cop 27 summit. the clock is ticking. the delegates in egypt to come to an agreement by friday, which is when the summit ends and one of the main sticking points is compensation for nations most vulnerable to climate change. but the talks have just been bolstered by world leaders of the g 20 some summit. they have pledge to quote, pursue efforts to curb global warming to $1.00 degrees. and joining us now from the climate conference in chanel shake is our correspondent julius our daily jeweler. can you tell us more about this declaration from the g 20 and, and how is that likely to be received in egypt?

oh certainly it is seen as a positive signal that the g 20 countries have again committed to trying to keep the rise of global temperatures under 1.5 degrees celsius. this is a goal that was set in the paris agreement in 2015. and we've seen some signs here at the climate conference that some countries might be wavering on wanting to be as ambitious to pursue this school. and it's important for the g 20 countries to have a, again committed to the 1.5 degree gall. and it is also important that the g 20 countries said that they want to push for reaching an agreement on lawson damage. that is a compensation for the country's most affected by the consequences of climate change. and that is something that is like to be well received here too. i cannot believe that d. w is also been talking to the used chief climate negotiator funds to mormons about rich countries paying poor countries more for the damage to the

climate. yes, this is exactly one of the biggest topics here at the climate conference. how can countries come to an agreement or looking at rich countries contributing financially to cover the great damage that the most vulnerable in poor countries are having to carry the burden of because of climate change? and we asked a scanner cit timmons, what he thought exactly about this issue. let's hear what he told us because some countries wants that money to go to all developing countries. and the european union wants his money to go to those countries who are most vulnerable as a result of the climate crisis. so we need to find a way through that. everybody can agree that this money will go to the countries that needed most. and we also need to talk about the conditions. some countries want a specific font for this. oh, that could be

a solution. we are open to that. but we also want to explore other possible solutions. because creating a front takes many years and we want to start helping vulnerable countries now and perhaps, or other solutions to address the issue. but we are open to discussing that and finding a compromise so that we can have a successful conclusion about lawson. diameter in sharma. che julie i do just have to ask you adam, brazil's president elect lula to silver, is at the climate talks. and he's taking a very different approach to the climate from his, his predecessor enjoyable scenario. isn't he? yes, there is a lot of excitement for lola's presence. here at the cop $27.00, and especially because it does mark a new beginning for brazil. it's a message saying that brazil is back and a definitely more attention by a lula to the issues of the climate, protection of the amazon and other countries here at corp. excited to be able to work together again and then closer relationships with brazil. exactly. on this,

on this topic and ready to co operate more closely with brazil at this point. it up is judith suddenly in sharm el shake. thank you so much for that. and with that you are up to date. i'm and your group is in the can and i will be back at the top of the next hour with no international headlines. thanks for watching with ah, with

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