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house and signed by president vladimir rights groups, fear it could be applied indiscriminately. this is in iran, demanding basic rights comes at an unbelievable price. over 300 people have been killed and the protest triggered by the death of gina marsan. many thousands of demonstrators have been arrested. their fate, in many cases is unclear reports of rape and other kinds of torture and custody. offer a glimpse of the horrors many have to endure for simply daring to speak up against decades of repression. the un will now launch a fact finding mission into the violent crack down. today the human rights council voted to investigate alleged abuses by the regime iran, meanwhile, lashes out and calls the initiative politically motivated. i'm the cough really, him berlin and this is the day ah,
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they have names gina and i do. fidel renewed today is about then women and girls must be able to feel free and secure in public without fear of violence or harassment. reducing the common cause of human rights to tools for political purposes or specific groups. so western countries as it is upholding and disgraceful the names on display next to me and the photos behind me represent just a few of the live. at least 40 of them are children. we are now in a full fledged human rights crisis. impunity prevents justice. also on the show will look at what progress has been made by the international atomic energy agency and negotiating a safe zone around the upper regia nuclear plant. what we're proposing is very
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simple. don't shoot, had the plant, don't shoot from the plant. and the, the points of still of doubt are not, not that many united nations is launching an investigation into iran's crackdown on anti government protests. now in their 3rd month, a broader than expected majority of the $47.00 strong human rights council backed a resolution despite heavy lobbying by iran and china. the vote took place after the session requested by germany and iceland. we'll get reactions and have a look at what happens next. but 1st, a look at today's debate, women and girls must be able to feel free and secure in public without fear of violence or harassment to live in safety and be able to participate in public life . on equal footing with men,
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political and civil rights have not been imposed upon iran from i would cite. iran has agreed to uphold and defend them by being a party to the international covenant on civil and political rights. persistent impunity for human rights violations remains one of the major challenges in iran. further fueling discontent and distress the peaceful gathering in iran turn into results due to the smear campaign of german regime us, your che, on frowns against people of iraq to vote in favor of this resolution. demonstrate solidarity with the brave people of iran, notably women and girls who despite grave risks continued to speak out, we must respond to their cries for accountability in the wake of wet they are facing norris with those results of the recorded votes are as follows. the 25 votes in favor. 6,
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again sent you 16 extensions. followed by 3rd birth, therefore a draft proposal. resolution a stroke h r. c. stroke us 35 stroke l one as orally revised. is therefore adopted. so crowded on the ha. lucy kernan is with human rights watch and was at the talks in geneva today she told us why iran should be investigated and how that might look and practice. we strongly support the call for an investigation and we just heard today at the human rights council here, the special record to on the situation in iran describe the possibility of accountability within iran as structural impunity. he described how the judiciary was not independence, how the lowest on comply with international human rights standards. and so it's impossible to get an impartial investigation at the domestic level. therefore, we think the international community needs to step in with an international
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investigation on this. fisher up alter on iran, which has been in existence for a number of years, has never had the corporation of the government of iran. so we don't expect that iran would support and cooperate with an investigation established now by the council. however, we know you know that that's not an uncommon situation. there are many mechanisms established by the human rights council where the country concern does not operate other examples being yeah, north korea and so on. so there are other ways of course, of doing these sorts of investigations, remote investigations. so speaking to witnesses and victims remotely. and of course, using information that's available publicly on social media, lots of videos for the photographs. testimonies, which of course need to be verified can be used to, to do criminal investigations. and the key here, of course, is that this would be an impartial. i need to be independent investigation and so give it a great deal of credibility. let's bring in time or aaliyah. see he is the you and
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representative of the association for human rights and kurdistan of iran. and he was at the vote in geneva today. mr. alley, i think to have you with us. you spoke today before the council on behalf of human rights advocates. what was your message to the international community? thank you so much for having me. but before you go like to express myself in humanize communities, but also kill them boys who are non and defied machine a 2 hour time german people and germany, governments for the history of women 10 under the illusion on the council. well, we made a statement of the situation of credit people on the menu to young research. my target of the repression in the at, you know, as of today,
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over friday the people were killed by the atrocious and 126 demo bluetooth and 100. of course. so the concern of trish not breeders is especially your course son in law about and john, good where this ties risk in this matter is concentration. yeah. the iranian representative accused western countries of arrogance and call does a politically motivated initiative. how do you react to this kind of remark? well, you know, new for us for the past 40 years. they're really probably a cure. those kind of discourses doesn't have any sense for us. what happened in this time you get off the public. busy isn't that you
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suffer from the people killing the children in the boys and girls who are have heavy listerman the mon for change for you because he, for the rest of human eyes and put a minute that, i mean, i mean this causes it no more and your body and you have been listening to for the past 40 years. you call today's decision historic. what does it mean to the people of iran? well, being the human council, since 2006 posts with every single person of the us council has been a lot of menus. oceans company, machine relations were, you know, it was retiring, but today we can, we can use them. and because that is charged to
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college proofs present, proved prescript criminals that need to missional regional or national talk. today's history called for the girls and boys who, who are crazy and hide the last moment and signed the germans. why are the revolutionary guards cracking down? so hard, especially on the kurdish regions of iran, well, decrease people since the subject of the public, they are perceived frame and hostile group because of the through the service. probably if you remember, some denied for any refrain whether you want to the gym or sorry,
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because the fuse and since then you made it to again the course and we see that the credit people and i think there are also other minorities. 3 may very well the resistance and the mix of resisting and especially recall ministration. them in this room can sions, young women lie freedom. busy from courtesan and chris was pretty much sufficient for freedom and slimy. could you do like time or see of the association for human rights in kurdistan of iran in geneva? thank you for your time. thank you. ah. after stepping up air attacks on northern syria turkish
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president regina type air dawn is threatening to launch a ground offensive against kurds in northern syria. on cry has hid hundreds of kurdish targets across the region and iraq. since the weekend russia and the us have urged restraint to prevent the situation from escalating turkeys, threat follows a deadly bombing and is tumble this month. which angora claims on kurdish militants turkish missiles are once again raining down on kurdish areas. turkey has been waging a war with kurdish militants for decades. the kurds inhabit a mountainous region, struggling 5 countries, including iraq and syria. the largest number live in turkey, where they're fight for self rule has always met a brutal response from ankara. turkey is blaming kurdish forces in iraq and syria for a bombing in east stumble earlier this month, which killed 6 people. the kurds have denied involvement,
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but turkey has responded with attacks in iraq. and chiefly northern syria. here, turkey or pro turkish fighters already control some border areas shown here in blue . president wretched type ad one wants to expand that area and his targeting land controlled by kurdish forces on their allies shown here in yellow the kurds killed in turkish air strikes. here are allies of the u. s. and weight instrumental in driving back militants from the islamic state group in syria. but turkey sees no difference between the kurdish fighters here and the outlawed p. k. k terrace group. the kids to their part of fighting back as they've always done firing rockets into turkish controlled areas in northern syria, united states and russia, urging turkey to show restraint. but so far, those pools, the going on he did tell him terry to is an expert on turkish politics at the
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center for applied turkey studies in berlin and joins me now. mister chairman, welcome and turkey says it has neutralized what it says are kurdish terrorists. what does that look like on the ground? well, as you just mentioned, in the near term, touch courses are swipe p g as the, as the syrian branch of the chaos pj's or slogans ation. not only by talk about by us and european countries as well. but why it has a different organ claims to be a different organization. although it share some ideological affinities, are some links with g, j, j as a different set of goals for focusing on tire law, syria, and it doesn't target. so based on that, neither is united states or europe in countries concert. there's y, p g as a source organization. yet in turkey is as you say,
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targeting the p k and the y b g who are an ally to the west in syria, in the fight against the islamic state. does the wiping g c, the west as an ally. now, when it's being attacked in syria, well why p g current has so far relied on the west as an alive, but it also had to rely on the west because it really has no other choice. but as you said, this alliance is contingent upon the fight against isis. and there seems to be a change of heart with regard to this alliance because license appears no longer to be a major strategic threat. so what i'm observing is that americans are becoming less and less committed to this alliance. but for the moment, why p g has no other option but stick to this alliance. what evidence has turkey
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provided to back up its claim that term and kurdish militants carried out the assembled bombing. not much more than an evidence. turkey basically claimed that an active created the narrative that linked the bond being with the kurdish militants. but this is not active as a leaking cause. it doesn't seem to end up and it didn't, con means many people. and so for turkey, really didn't bring up any evidence whatsoever to back up this not i can. so all we have is minister of interior statement that this is done by curtis militants. but it's not really comments, and i'm not saying that it is not possible, but we have seen so far. no evidence. president or dawn has however, been talking about launching a ground operation ag. what he calls the most convenient time. how seriously should that be taken? we're seriously, this is, this won't be the 1st ground operation, but it will be the 5th one if it happens on turkey,
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has been threatening written by the last 6 months or so for the russians on americans 7th, given the green light for the ground operation. so this air strikes can be considered as a, maybe a yellow light, but things are changing because due to russian aggression in ukraine. and this is rational progression of your pain, increased turkey, just the engine value in dies off the russians bottles in the eyes of the americans . and this gave turkey a huge leverage and that one is willing to use that leverage insight in territory. and therefore, it is most likely that eventually he would get the green wire from the russians are from the american. for now, they are both still urging restraint, though, what would the consequences of a ground offensive be for in the region. it depends on how large and offensive are we talking about, and which region is will be targeted to so far to play regions as potential targets,
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which are part of on it. if turkey targets a strategically important because they are the gates, the 2nd largest, if target targets these 2 regions, russians and europeans as well as battles on the ground and will pose it strongly and it will have big progressions. but on the other hand, is not that strategically significant and all these countries that i mentioned and don't count totally limited turkish, a ground operation. if it is, if you don't, the targets provide me on the other one is symbolically very important because it is also the place where curtis, there's a story started. so it has huge political meaning, but less strategic importance. very complex situation. thank you so much for breaking it down for us selling care. it's an expert on turkish politics at the
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center for applied turkey studies and really thank you for having me. aah! ukraine's nuclear energy chief petro coating has accused russia of causing a real danger of a nuclear and radioactive catastrophe. as after missile strikes, cut external power to all of ukraine's nuclear power plants, causing them to shut down on wednesday. meanwhile, russia says it is in favor of a protection zone around the zoo, this upper regia, nuclear power plant on its own terms. that is, the power station is in ukraine, but in territory currently occupied by russian forces. it's also been hit by artillery strikes on numerous occasions. we'll get some independent analysis of that in a 2nd. but 1st, here is russia's deputy foreign minister sergey react cough by mima gunther. club ski resumes has done that besides contacts with keith, with the i a is also holding dialogue with the officials of some western countries
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. we met james, we hope that this di book will help to convince identities regime to stop the criminal actions against somebody sees nuclear power plant waste. but i mean from our side was we're doing everything possible to solve the issue she had to do so without delay. but the children and elena ocala is the executive director of the vienna center for disarmament and non proliferation. she joins us now from the austrian capital. welcome back to the day. russia says it's doing all it can to solve the issue. what's your opinion on that? oh, i don't think the rush is a doing everything. ah, well, 1st of all, as reported earlier, it all then you live homeland had to be sat down yesterday. the rest yes. tracks on duke energy restructuring cream. luckily, or we will face
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a situation where the cranial side and the russian needs of her if she were able to restore a electrical or 2 that leads to this nuclear power, which is very important, but the safe and secure a reason. however, the conditions that russia has food for, for this, so called protection, so that the international atomic energy trying to negotiate or number of months now does not sound favorable to me. well, 1st of all, the demand is that the brain basically promises not to re occupy the territory. and you know, i don't think this condition will be something that you frame but frankly speaking the situation where we see that
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all the plans are now being cut off from the electricity, electrical power, which is critical, as i mentioned there reason is very concerning the agency ross, they have been saying for months now, we're playing with the fire and we're on the brink of having an accident, radiological that's. and i fully agree with that. how close are we to what ukraine called the nuclear end. radioactive catastrophe. what could happen? that could trigger such a scenario when this, when there is no liable power supply to the plans themselves, which it means that the it's safety systems and security system on your why
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on the diesel operator, diesel generators which have a limited capacity. they can probably last for several days, but that's not a reliable supply. the issue here is a continuous pumping of water that cool down the reactors without that circulation water liquid face, the situation that is similar to the meltdown of reactor isn't focusing on. and we still remember i live in 2011 the consequences of that. so that's what i'm kind of a fee is a potential of the contest that we're facing in ukraine. and that's an area of the, excuse me, that the scenario everybody wants to avoid, right?
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if you're going terribly wrong. so why is upper region still being targeted? that's a big question and then we still don't know who's responsible with a half hour. probably yes is in some sense on who is responsible but where i'm a city or, and we know that in addition to regular places, we know from the russians, there are mercenary. that may not necessarily be taking orders from the russian army, but we don't have a mechanism and establishing we do have inspectors on the international atomic energy and the but they're not specialist in assessment of, you know, the listing a and things like that from one way or another, and that's not the agency inspections of doing it. so we still
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don't know. but we certainly know that it was russia who was responsible for and targeting the electric infrastructure of the infrastructure and the power lines themselves in the intact, in a day or 2 left left to the center. so a safe zone and having a capable personnel, there is tremendously important to think this is something that we're going to see in the foreseeable future. and that, that, that the russians and the ukrainians can agree on. and that the russians would have, by the, by my personal opinion, that the probability of reaching an agreement is quite low. first and foremost because of the position so that i have to borrow part and for ukraine
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to recognize at least in this arrangement, that the nuclear power plant is now under the russian control in some form of the international agreement is probably not something that they are prepared to read to you, but for me, the biggest question is that even if they agree on something out of it for attention, so how this zone being or who will be the part is enforcing it? that is the biggest question to me. so to me that even there is, there is an agreement, we have to leave a we're running out of time unfortunately. thank you so much. no, thank you. my pleasure. and that really is our time. thank you so much for spending parts of your day.
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