tv The Day Deutsche Welle November 25, 2022 3:02am-3:31am CET
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ah, in iran demanding basic rights comes at an unbelievable price. over 300 people have been killed and the protest triggered by the death of gina marsan, many thousands of demonstrators have been arrested. their fate, in many cases, is unclear reports of rape and other kinds of torture and custody. offer a glimpse of the horrors many have to endure for simply daring to speak up against decades of repression. the un will now launch a fact finding mission into the violent crack down to day. the human rights council voted to investigate alleged abuses by the regime iran, meanwhile, lashes out and calls the initiative politically motivated. i'm not really him berlin and this is the day ah,
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they have names gina, i do fidel. me new today is about them. women and girls must be able to feel free and secure in public without fear of violence or harassment. reducing the common cause of human rights to tools for political purposes of a specific group. so western countries is, is appalling and disgraceful. the names on display next to me and the photos behind me represent just a few of the live. at least 40 of them are children. we are now in a full fledged human rights crisis. impunity prevents justice. ah, also on the show will look at what progress has been made by the international atomic energy agency and negotiating a safe zone around the upper regia nuclear plant. what we're proposing is very
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simple. don't shoot, had the plant, don't shoot from the plant. and the, the dead points of steel of doubt are not, not that many united nations is launching an investigation into iran's crackdown on anti government protests. now in their 3rd month, a broader than expected majority of the $47.00 strong human rights council backed a resolution despite heavy lobbying by iran and china. the vote took place after the session requested by germany and iceland. we'll get reactions and have a look at what happens next. but 1st, a look at today's debate, women and girls must be able to feel free and secure in public without fear of violence or harassment to live in safety and be able to participate in public life . on equal footing with men,
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political and civil rights have not been imposed upon iran from i would cite. iran has agreed to uphold and defend them by being a party to the international covenant on civil and political rights. persistent impunity for human rights violations remains one of the major challenges in iran. further fueling discontent and distress, the peaceful gathering get near on turn into results due to the smear campaign of german regime us your che, on frowns against people of iraq. her vote in favor of this resolution demonstrates solidarity with the brave people of iran, notably women and girls who despite grave risks continued to speak out, we must respond to their cries for accountability in the wake of what they are facing. norris will double the results of the recorded votes are as follows. the 25 votes in favor. 6 against
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16 extensions, followed by 3rd birth, therefore a draft proposal. resolution a stroke h r. c. stroke us 35 stroke l one as orally revised is therefore adopted. so crowded on the ha. lucy kernan is with human rights watch and was at the talks in geneva. today she told us why iran should be investigated and how that might look and practice. we strongly support the call for an investigation and we just heard today at the human rights council here, the special record to on the situation in iran describe the possibility of accountability within iran as structural impunity. he described how the judiciary was not independence, how the lowest on comply with international human rights standards. and so it's impossible to get an impartial investigation at the domestic level. therefore, we think the international community needs to step in with an international
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investigation on this. fisher up alter on iran, which has been in existence for a number of years, has never had the corporation of the government of iran. so we don't expect that iran would support and cooperate with an investigation established now by the council. however, we know you know that that's not an uncommon situation. there are many mechanisms established by the human rights council where the country concern does not operate other examples being young man and north korea and so on. so there are other ways of course, of doing these sorts of investigations, remote investigations. so speaking to witnesses and victims remotely, of course, using information that's available publicly on social media. lots of videos for the photographs. testimonies, which of course need to be verified can be used to, to do criminal investigations. and the key here, of course, is that this would be an impartial, i need to be independent investigation and so give it a great deal of credibility. let's bring in time or aaliyah. see,
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he's the you and representative of b association for human rights and kurdistan of iran, and he was at the vote in geneva today. mr. alley, i think to have you with us. you spoke today before the council on behalf of human rights advocates. what was your message to the international community? thank you so much for having me. but before you go like to express myself in humanize communities, but also kill them boys who are mistaken and defied machine a text with our german people and german government for the history of women. 10 under the illusion on the council. well, we made a statement of the situation of credit people on the menu or to young rachelle, my target of the repression in the as you know, as of today, over friday,
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the people were killed by the churches and 126 demo bluetooth and 100 of course. so the concern of situation readers is especially you course in my about. busy where this ties, the risk in this matter is concentration. yeah. the iranian representative accused western countries of arrogance and call does a politically motivated initiative. how do you react to this kind of remark? well, we know you're for us, for the past 40 years. they're probably a cure so those kind of discourses doesn't have any sense for us. what happened in this time you get off the public. busy you
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suffer from the people that killed the children in the boys and girls who have listed a demand for change, for the rest of human eyes and put a minute that, i mean, i mean this causes it no more and your body and you have been listening to for the past 40 years, you call today's decision historic. what does it mean to the people of iran? well, being the human council, since 2006, a post, every single person of the us council has been a lot of menus, oceans, company. machine relations were, you know, it was retiring, but today we can, we can use them really and because that is charged through
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college proofs, present, proved prescript criminals. and then to missional, regional or national talk today's to us history called for the girls and boys who, who are crazy and hide the last moment and signed the germans. why are the revolutionary guards cracking down so hard, especially on the kurdish regions of iran? well, decrease people since the subject of this public, they are perceived frame and hostile group because of the through the sub is probably if you remember some denied already. ready referring to whether you want to the gym or the course the
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tuesday and then you made it to again the course and we see that the kurdish people and i think there are also other minorities. 3 make very nervous while the resistance and the mix of resisting and especially recall to ministration them in this rook and jens young women lie freedom. busy from chris and chris was fired pretty much sufficient for them. and the slimy could to rules. they don't like us time. we're out of the association for human rights in kurdistan of iran in geneva. thank you for your time. thank you. ah. after stepping up air attacks on northern syria turkish
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president regina type air dawn is threatening to launch a ground offensive against kurtz in northern syria, on cry has hid hundreds of kurdish targets across the region and iraq. since the weekend russia and the us have urged restraint to prevent the situation from escalating turkeys, threat follows a deadly bombing and is tumble this month. which on gra, claims on kurdish militants. turkish missiles are once again raining down on kurdish areas. turkey has been waging a war with kurdish militants for decades. the kurds inhabit a mountainous region, struggling 5 countries, including iraq and syria. the largest number live in turkey, where they're fight for self rule has always met a brutal response from ankara. turkey is blaming kurdish forces in iraq and syria for a bombing in east stumble earlier this month, which killed 6 people. the kurds have denied involvement,
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but turkey has responded with attacks in iraq and chiefly northern syria. here, turkey, all pro turkish fighters already control some border areas shown here in blue. president wretched type ad one wants to expand that area and his targeting land controlled by kurdish forces and their allies shown here in yellow the kurds killed in turkish air strikes. here are allies of the u. s. and weight instrumental in driving back militants from the islamic state group in syria. but turkey sees no difference between the kurdish fighters here and the outlawed p k. k terrace group. the curts for their part of fighting back as they've always done firing rockets into turkish controlled areas in northern syria, united states and russia, urging turkey to show restraint. but so far, those cools that going on. he did tell him jerry to is an expert on turkish
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politics at the center for applied turkey studies in berlin and joins me now. mister chairman, welcome and turkey says it has neutralized what it says are curtis terrorists. what does that look like on the ground? well, as you just mentioned, in the near curve, touch courses are sworn p g as the, as the syrian branch of b j b j, j are slow transition not only by talked about by us and european countries as well . but why has a difference oregon claims to be a different organization? all don't share some ideological affinity is, are some links with g, j. j has a different set of goals for focusing on tire law, syria and it doesn't target. they've gone dead snyder's united states or europe in countries concert. there's y p g as a tourist organization. yeah. turkey is, as you say,
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targeting the pre k and the y b g who are an ally to the west in syria, in the fight against the islamic state. does the y, p g c, the west as an ally? now when it's being attacked in syria? well why p g current has so far relied on the west as an alive, but it also had to rely on the west because it really has no other choice. but as you said, this alliance is contingent upon the fight against isis. and there seems to be a change of heart with regard to this alliance because license appears no longer to be a major strategic threat. so what i'm observing is that americans are becoming less and less committed to this alliance. but for the moment, y p g has no other option but stick to this alliance. and what evidence has turnkey
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provide it to back up its claim that term and kurdish militants carried out the sample bombing. not much more than an evidence. turkey basically claimed that non active created the narrative that linked the bomb being with the kurdish minutes. but this narrative has been leaking cause it's, it doesn't seem to add up and it didn't call me many people. and so for turkey, really didn't bring up any evidence whatsoever to back up this not item. so all we have is minister of interior statement that this is done by curtis militants. but it's not really comments. and i'm not saying that it is not possible, but we have seen so far. no evidence. president, early on has however, been talking about launching a ground operation ag, what he calls the most convenient time. how seriously should that be taken? lucille, this won't be the 1st grand operation, but it will be the 5th one if it happens that turkey has been threatening written
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by the last 6 months or so for the russians on americans 7th, given the green light for the grand operation. so this strikes can be considered as a, maybe a yellow light, but things are changing because due to the russian aggression in ukraine and this national traditional, if you're paying increased turkey, just look at the value in dies off the russians bottles in the eyes of the americans and this gave turkey a huge leverage and that one is willing to use that leverage insights in territory . and therefore, it is most likely that eventually he would get the green wire from the russians on from the american. for now, they are both still urging restraint, though what would the consequences of the ground offensive be for in the region? it depends on the how large an offensive are we talking about. and which region is will be targeted to so far to play regions as potential targets,
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which are part of on it. if turkey targets a strategically important because they are the gates, the 2nd largest, if target targets these 2 regions, russians and europeans as well as battles on the ground and will pose it strongly and it will have big progressions. but on the other hand, is not that strategically significant and all these countries that i mentioned on route can't hold on a limited turkish, a ground operation. if it is, if you don't, the targets provide me on the other one is symbolically very important because it is also to play slash kurdish. there's a story started, so it has huge political meaning, but less strategic importance. very complex situation. thank you so much for breaking it down for selling care. it's an expert on turkish politics at the center
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for applied turkey studies and really thank you for having me. aah! ukraine's nuclear energy chief petro coating has accused russia of causing a real danger of nuclear and radioactive catastrophe. as after missile strikes, cut external power to all of ukraine's nuclear power plants, causing them to shut down on wednesday. meanwhile, russia says it is in favor of a protection zone around the zoo, this upper regia, nuclear power plant on its own terms. that is, the power station is in ukraine, but in territory currently occupied by russian forces. it's also been hit by artillery strikes on numerous occasions. we'll get some independent analysis of that in a 2nd. but 1st, here's russia's deputy foreign minister sergey re upped cough by muma gunther club ski resumes a stunted besides contacts with keith, with the i. e is also holding dialogue with the officials of some western countries
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. we met james and we hope that this dialogue will help to convince identities regime to stop the criminal actions against somebody soon you could have power plant place, but i mean we from all sides, what we're doing, everything possible to solve the issue or to do so. without delay, but yes, that's it. and elena, so colla is the executive director of the vienna center for disarmament and non proliferation. she joins us now from the austrian capital. welcome back to the day . russia says it's doing all it can to solve the issue. what's your opinion on that? oh, i don't think the rush. is it doing everything? ah, well 1st of all, as reported early it all, then you click on land. had to be sat down yesterday because of the rest. yes. tracks on duke energy restructuring credit. luckily, or we will face
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a situation where the cranial side and the russian needs of her if she were able to restore a electrical or 2 that leads to this nuclear power, which is very important, but the safe and secure a reason. however, the conditions that russia has good for, for this so called protection zone that the international atomic energy trained in the go see or, and number of months now, does not sound favorable to me. well, 1st of all, the demand is that the brain basically promises not to re occupy the territory. and you know, i don't think this condition will be something that you frame but frankly speaking the situation where we see that
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all the plans are now being cut off from the electricity, electrical power which is critical. as i mentioned, it is very concerning the handle of the atomic agency ross. they have been saying for months now we're playing with the fire and we're on the brink of having an accident, radiological that's. and i fully agree with that. how close are we to what ukraine called the nuclear end, radioactive catastrophe. what could happen? that could trigger such a scenario? when this, when there is no liable power supply to the plans themselves, which means that the it safety systems and security system on your why
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on the diesel operator, diesel generators which have a limited capacity. they can probably last for several days, but that's not a reliable supply. the issue here is a continuous pumping of water that cool down the reactors. without that circulation, we're going to place a situation that is similar to the meltdown of reactor isn't focusing on. and we still remember i live in 2011 the consequences of that. so that's what i'm kind of a fee is a potential of the contest that we're facing in ukraine. and that's an area of the, excuse me, that the scenario everybody wants to avoid, right? this is why you're going terribly wrong. so why is upper region still being
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targeted? that's a big question. and then we still don't know who's responsible with a half hour. probably yes, is in some sense on who is responsible, but we're, i'm a city or, and we know that in addition to regular place, we know from the russians, there are mercenary. that may not necessarily be taking orders from the russian army, but we don't have a mechanism that and establishing we do have inspectors on the international atomic energy and the but they're not specialist in assessment of, you know, bully, stick a and things like that from one way or another, and that's not the agency inspections of doing it. so we still
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don't know, but we certainly know that it was russia who was responsible for and targeting the electric infrastructure of the infrastructure. and the power lines themselves in the intact, in a day or 2 left, left to the center is factors. so a safe zone and having a capable personnel, there is tremendously important to think this is something that we're going to see in the foreseeable future. and that, that, that the russians and the ukrainians can agree on. and that the russians would have, by the, by my personal opinion, that the probability of reaching an agreement is quite low 1st and foremost because of the position. so that is too far and for your brain to
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recognize, at least in this arrangement, that the nuclear power plant is now under the russian control in some form of international agreement, is probably not something that they are prepared to read to you. but for me, the biggest question is that even if they agree on something out of it for attention, so how this zone being or who will be the part is enforcing it? that is the biggest question to me. so to me that even there, there is an agreement, we have to leave a we're running out of time unfortunately. thank you so much. no, thank you. my pleasure. and that really is our time. thank you so much for spending parts of your day
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