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i saw you are not a visitor, not a guess. you want to become a citizen. in full migrants, your platform for reliable information. with the w is leih from but main. china climbs down on protests against beijing 0 co bid policy. barriers go off as police deal with demonstrators calling for president jim pings resignation also on the protest. also on the program. more than a dozen killed as heavy rains trigger, a landslide in the common runi and capital will bring you the latest from ya and an
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exclusive report from crass on in southern ukraine. we hear about the ordeal of 2 prisoners held by russian occupying forces and van exclusive dw investigation uncovered the extent of cooperation between scientists in germany and the north korea. ah, i'm fil gale. welcome to the program. a china is clamping down against protest against beijing's unpopular as 0 coated policy. thousands of people have taken part in demonstration, calling for an end to lockdown, sent in some cases for president julian ping's resignation. such protests are extremely rare under china. strict censorship laws. solidarity robbins have also been taking place. obasi. a government has ease some restrictions,
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but he's showing little sign of backing down. in downtown shanghai, a heavy police presence has replaced the huge protein which filled these streets. police, cars, trucks and offices are out in force. huge fin sits now in place to stop crowns. gathering authorities here are working to remove all evidence of the protests demanding these women delete photos from the fines. oh, here they have wrist. one protested with police telling reporters the men didn't obey their arrangements. he's not the only one to have been detained. the social media footage shows a b, b. c journalist being arrested while protest is chante for his release. the baby ceases. he was assaulted before being fried. chinese authorities say he didn't properly identify himself. the proteins aren't extremely re,
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a show of the seemed with many here reaching the limits. ballade, they're pretty neighbor and loyal to you. i think everyone has their own demands in this matter. logo, yo, you and i think it's good for the environment of the whole country to have such a space for discussion. rallies and solidarity with china's demonstrations have now sprayed around the world. large crowds gathered outside the embassy in london. and here in tokyo, calling for an end to china's strict coven restrictions. but chinese authorities are refusing to change course. you know, we believe that with leadership and the support of the chinese people are fight against coven 19 will be successful. the way there has been a slight easing of restrictions in the western city of m ci where
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a deadly apartment fire last week sparked much of the recent and reast. some residents have been confined to their homes and mammoths can travel on local buses from choose day. some small relief, but far from the in to the government 0 cove and policy. it so meaning and demanding will only result reserve janice fabric clergyman who is in beijing. he told us what's happening. yeah. out today. i mean, it's really, it seems calm here also in beijing and where are several hundreds of not thousands of protesters together last night. but still you see a lot of pro police not only in uniforms awesome plainclothes and you know, it could snap any time. and it's really tense atmosphere and me as a journalist, i was immediately kicked out of the protest site. and just by standing there when they identified me as a journalist, m. so let's see how it will develop it. i mean, in shanghai, what the authorities did,
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they basically fenced of all the squares. they fenced off, or several streets. but i mean, yeah that's, that's of course intimidating. and yeah, we know that there have been several arrests. but i mean, what they cannot do is, you know, to, to change the attitude, they were already so many protests us out there last night and they achieved it. they did it, and many people are saw it and they spread from word to word. and yeah, i think that has a big impact having crunch we're in beijing, we'll take a look now. so most stores making news around the world. at least 4 people have been killed as millicent stormed a hotel in the somali and capital market issue. security forces are trying to regain control of the building, which is popular with politicians. al chabad militants affiliated to al qaeda say they carried out the attack. people in 6 countries have joined forces. police in fixed countries of joint forces to bring down an international bring of cocaine dealer must 50 people have been arrested in europe. and the united arab emirates
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authorities seized 30 tons of drugs. now at least 8 people, including a new born baby have been killed in a landslide on the southern italian island of escape. a rescue workers are still searching for several others. the government has declared a state of emergency. the serenity this island normally enjoys has been turned on its head. a violent storm sent waves of mud sweeping through the streets early saturday. the aftermath has done to those tasked with recovery efforts. the rescuers include hundreds of volunteers who now have to clear out seemingly endless amounts of sludge. a catholic children's home is among the buildings flooded. relent, my very alley. if you have a mother in law, this is all the mud that came in to the compound through the sewers. i know you will and body so we volunteers are trying to help them out because the state and those in it are not doing their duty. but they're
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a kid already. there are no fight sourdough. either. the storm delayed the arrival of fairies bringing emergency support from italy's mainland. but it's not just the speed of the rescue that hang at people here. the local government is also under fire for not clamping down on illegal buildings. pacific images that i must say that such an awful thing shouldn't have happened, because we know that this island, and indeed this town casa mitchell is an area with delicate soil. so there should have been more careful either. it was like very little things on a significant number of buildings on the skier island did not have official permits . climate act of a say large scale construction has reduced green spaces and trees in the region, making the soil more susceptible to slides. the national civil protection agency says these land planning violations affect more than 90 percent of italy's municipalities and one they too could face some risk of landslides or other natural
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disasters. in what a landslide in the communion a capital yonder has killed at least 15 people, dozen of others are missing heavy rains course an embankment to come out on top of mourners at a funeral rescue. as a searching through the mud for survivors. dozens of a funeral bar party were gathered on a slope for him. the ground beneath him gave way. will dr. jessica holmes, research is slope stability in climate change mitigation at new castle university and the u. k. a. welcome to d w. dr. we've just heard 2 report set of deadly landslides wanting to escape the oven cameras. both happen during heavy rain. could you perhaps talk us through what turns just another rainy day into a disaster like this? yes, so i'm landslide trick is i'm come to cost me anything. so rainfall is
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one such long flight trigger. and we think that about 80 percent of natural disasters are caused by weather related hazards. and that includes one side stricken by rainfall like those recently seen. and calmer in italy this week. so the fact that we've got this very intense rainfall that's occur adoption potentially a very long dry summer is something that we are likely to see more and more is climate change progresses. so the dryness of the summer is likely to cause weather ring a top sales which reduces the strength of the soils. and therefore there's a greater likelihood of one side or it's one that rainfall does come. so it's possible that that's the sort of thing that we see now, and we're likely to see more of unfortunately as climate change progresses. ok, so this is something but of a place can be safe. decades ago. and this year it's completely different. dangerous because of, of what's happening in the intervening period. yeah,
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that's right. and also, as we've got a loss of population growth, and particularly in developing countries, that means that more and more people are living on steep hill sops and often and buildings aren't built to withstand landside. so there are people that are increased risk of lawn fights. now than they would have been prior to these developments and being boat. so we've seen that a lot of them, a lot of loss of life related to lon sides occurs in developing countries. but obviously in italy, they saw if event is very, very rare for us. we heard, unfortunately a lot of the buildings were built to legally am on the lawn side initially. so they wouldn't necessarily been built with consideration for the bose and regulations that we usually see in developing countries. so that's also put them an increased risk of collapse in the event of unsigned. so a far from not building there, then what, what come regions are vulnerable to, to long slides do to prevent already mitigated the effects of these,
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these things or, well, i think the main thing that we need to look toward stared is monitoring thoughts. so we do a lot of research into how we can effectively monitor slopes in order to identify appropriate mitigation techniques, fall slope failure. and the ultimate aim of that would be to provide early warning systems fall on slides so that we can implement low cost remedial work before the on site occurs and to prevent the fatalities. and also these major influences on the economy and the environment. so there are many methods, the monitoring on flights and but we usually need to look at risk based prioritization of our monitoring because kind of similar to every single slope. so an assessment of the risk needs to be carried out role. we can actually monitor this to be able to provide these mitigation strategies effectively. factors of our doctor, dr. jessica hogue from newcastle university. i to ukraine
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president zalinski is warning i to prepare for a new wave of russian air strikes. he says, as long as moscow has missiles, it will not rest in endless rockets, drugs, of course, the most damaging power cut since the war began. millions have been without electricity or heat. although authorities say water and power in the capitol. keep our back on. my correspondent nick conley is in cave. welcome, nick at our people regarding the approaching winter with limited to hate lighter water. it's definitely tough. you might be able to see behind me quite how few lights are on here and cable though the system. the system has been stabilized for the text last week. and it definitely feels like everyone now is an expert on generators. you can't get any diesel generators or either here or in europe, they're all sold out. so people having to move to less efficient petrol generators . people talking about the power banks, different ways of kind of making the best of a few hours
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a day. they do have access to means power, but people are thinking about whether it's maybe a better idea to move out of the city from their kind of high rise apartments to their weekend houses. rural kind of cottages, places where you can heat with wood or other things that you can kind of organize yourself without being dependent on a complex system. and there is, as you mentioned there, that fear of further russian attacks. it feels like every time the russians attack with those missiles that it takes a little longer for the system to kind of recalibrate itself. but there's no panic yet. i think the most important thing is that people more less have access to mobile phone networks can communicate. and i think that's been my kind of most lasting impression is that when the power goes out and the mobile phone must stop working, that's when people get a bit nervous. they can't find out how their family doing what to expect. as long as that's around, people somehow make the best of it. and what about places like hess on in the south? it hadn't been liberated that have been liberated by ukrainian forces, but are still facing daily russian bombardment. well,
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in terms of the infrastructure, the situation, there is much, much worse, that city has been without logic, that power without water for weeks now. and you can imagine trying to repair their systems during kind of constant or to re bombardments is basically impossible. but it's not just about the candidate day, those people now coming out of 8 months of occupation and trying to work out what the russian army did their, how people were affected. if they saw the kinds of things that we saw in her given butch anarchy of those kind of human rights abuses, i met some people who have been imprisoned for over a month by the russians have had san let's have a look at what had se queuing for food, huddling around the few working, why fi hotspots carrying on in spite of the shelling all around them? this is what every day life looks like and have song the government key of what people to evacuate to aries with power water away from the russian guns. the neil and victoria stayed put during 8 long months of russian occupation. they're not
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about to go anywhere. now. they might seem like old friends, but they only met in september from the cellar of this unremarkable of his flock as prisoners. and yet there's a violin forced their way into her flat. my grandma started screaming, they let her off into the bathroom. soon i had a bag over my head and they just started beating me over and over. who's your president, who's your president? you coming with us? it's gonna be a lot of fun fil a mess. the neil had subscribe to appro ukrainian check group on telegram enough, phuket swans increasingly anxious. russian occupies to come off to him. victoria had been volunteering, taking food people in need when her group came into suspicion for contacts in government control territory. when the russians rated her home, he found you clean the flags on the souvenirs and postcards feasible char, i guess that means your enemy doesn't say the interrogator asked me. i agreed with him. but what do people do to their enemies? he asked the killed them. i replied that you're right. you said they talked to them
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1st. i didn't think i'd get out of there alive. why? during the new had no idea where it was had been kept there. he realized it's spent all those weeks in the middle of have songs and they recognize pictures of their basement shed online. we tried to go inside, but the police in letting anyone in the risk of rush minds, it's just too high. holden, eon, victoria, ever saw with herself. as soon as they left it, there were captain hood's captors determined to remain unseen. but as little as they could see, they could hear more than they wanted to. it was the worst was hearing. you screams my knees. i was the loudest in our basement during the interrogation. see of what all the cells could hear yelping, i was unbearable. the men's shouts didn't travel quite as far. but when you started, all i could do was pray that they go easy. all you knew of was all quite up within the fat my last interrogation, my hands were bound. the pain from the electric shocks was so bad that i didn't
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even notice that i pulled a nail out. all of a sudden i could feel the blood dripping. my hands, my trousers were they were all covered in blood. the lead, but the most terrifying moment was still to come of 2 weeks without news. while the inmates was suddenly driven out to the city, the gods telling them it was time to say their prayers. on the side of cuz that they made every one record a short video. you had to say your name, your date of birth and saying to the camera that you are alive. and well, for a moment i was really worried. what do they need this for? which it was that did they need an alibi? and when you brush geffrey at the ceiling, they were told to close their eyes and count to a 100. but instead of the shots that expected, they heard their captain's driving away without them me. after that, the likelihood their russian kept his low face justice, his slim, the torch, all the evidence that they left at least one good thing has come of it all. victoria tells me we'd done being scared a report from nick connelly who still
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with us in case welcome aback. nick, what sort of support is there for people like the kneeling victoria must be traumatized after all have been through while ukraine civil side, he is fully aware of this change and there are all kinds of charities, all kinds of volunteer groups, offering support. but i think it's a little early, i think most people are still trying to get their heads around what happened themselves and not really in a state to kind of talk about it in that kind of psychological kind of support sense and people who are trying to survive, this is you can see that there while trying to get into the seller that they'd spent the best part of a month and there was still a lot of shelling going on. that is getting worse since we left her so on. and people are without work and basically trying to kind of deal with their very basic kind of survival issues. but i think there is a real consent in ukraine that when this war is over, not just the civilians who are, you know, tortured ended up in a russian basement like that, but also hundreds, thousands, if not more competent. soldiers are going to need some help because this is
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a country that basically woke up on the 24th february in a full scale war that no one here really wants to believe as possible and has seen, you know, tens of thousands of people lose their lives and lots of people spending months and months under occupation, a great risk themselves. so there's definitely a huge need there. and i think there is a kind of growing awareness that if you can, wants to come back some kind of normality after this war and it's going to be a lot of work need to be done. thank for that may make conley in the crane and capitol or is german know how being used in north korean advances in dangerous technologies. research from dw is investigative team, has discovered cooperation between scientists in germany and north korea and that, and that it continued even after the united nations and issued a moratorium on such activities in 2016. the w has been looking into one troubling example here in ballot a barrage of
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missiles growing concerned about a possible 7th nuclear test. north korea's dictator kim duncan has overseen rapid advances in military capabilities. but his local seizure will progress in science and technology to try to stop this in 2016, the un asked all member states to suspend all academic exchange and scientific corporation with north korea except for rare cases with special permission. but the research at berlin bays mac small institute continued to work with north korean colleagues without asking german authorities for an exemption to the sanctions. in fact, m b, i research york im herman. publish 9 research papers with north koreans between 20172020 or all 9 paper is described fundamental research in laser technology where real world applications are not immediately apparent.
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the doubly disgust them with 10 independent thank sports, 6, physicists and for disarmament. experts, half of the physicists saw no danger, while the others said they could imagine the work a, the military aims in the future. but all disarmament experts were alarmed especially cut. so he suffered recover. who served on the un panel of experts on north korea. those papers published after $216.00 up to me to be careful. courier polishan. oh yes. comfort lucian. who dykus north could have been known to have quite an acute way to a significant amount or t home asian rogue. want to ask for new cra, uniform, or joint cooperation with 4 institutions. dr. herman declined an interview
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mark of rocking director of the m b. i told d w. they had never received an official request to suspend corporation. we have not been aware of the nature of the sanctions by the un. we are a small, he searches stood. we cannot be aware of every sanction. and every law that is, that is issued anywhere in the world. so determined his politicians, they all in notting forming them as kept to bring on on their obligations on both sides. and for those and a scientific community who have not noticed that there is a comprehensive sanctions regime against north korea. i would really want to ask them a number of questions about how such a thing can happen as young the n b, i eventually did stop herman's cooperation of its own accord. but there was 9 research papers and it'll be 4 years after the un asked for such will to stop. will ester feldman is one of the investigative reporters who worked on this story?
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welcome asked, how did you find out about it? well, actually i stumbled across a study which was published by a u. f institute in late 2018. and what they did was basically they counted how often north korean scientists collaborated with international partners. and not surprisingly, a china came in 1st, but germany of all countries came in 2nd. and they mentioned one particular institute, which was the m b i. and that was one we decided we need to take a closer look. okay. and so, how did this happen? well, basically it's a failure on all layers. there's not like one person or one institute to blame a c in germany. we have a freedom of science which is protected by the constitution. so politics doesn't interfere. but on the other hand, it means that the single researcher or the single institute, they have a lot of responsibility on their plate. so they are the ones they have to identify
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a possible dual youth risks. and then approach export control services. and if they don't, nothing happens. and this was exactly the case with the m b i. they never approached export control services. and also i would like to point out that on the security agencies, they issued warnings as early as 2016 in connection with north korea. and sensible knowledge transfer, but those warnings went an answer that they wouldn't hurt. so does this mean that so as a number of german scientists are going to be marched off to jail? no, probably not. i talked to legal experts on sanctions law. and they explained to me that there has to be a proof of intent on the side of the party involved. and the m b. i said they just weren't aware of the nature of the sanctions. so yes, you can say they were negligent or they were ignorant, but there wasn't any intent on their part. however, i also talked to
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a former member of the un panel of experts on north korea. and he said, or he suggested that based on our d, w research, there should be un investigation in this case. but as far as we can tell, if you say that that doesn't appear to be inside, it's not like there was a rush respirator. we're going to try defy sanctions and slip this through. they were just heads down. scientists were scientists, not lawyers, definitely. i wouldn't say there was any intent. all right, so what needs to happen in germany, particularly given the business part of the constitution, what needs to happen here to make sure this doesn't happen again? well, actually there should be a discussion involving all the parties involved. no one can do this alone. it's just too big. so the signs world should be involved. politics should be involved. also, the security agencies should be involved for this is also about security risks. and this discussion needs to be about the fundamental question. are there limits to
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freedom of science and if so, where should they be? and as you know, might know, like and china, there's also debate how to go about them, or the case of russia. germany stopped all academic collaborations, right after the war against ukraine started. so maybe this should happen here too. ok, thank you for that ester ester an investigative reporter here at the w on. you can see the whole extended story of this investigation into the dangers of scientific cooperation with north korea on the date of the news channel. you should this is a dw coming live from dawn and coming up next in muse, asia protest i take part around the world take place around the world and solidarity with those in china demanding an end to cov, locked abs to can they add pressure to change china covered policy and hate age, the grim choice facing afghan families, vachon. d. w. use asia. we finished vantage in just
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