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is truly unique and we know that, that uniqueness is what allows us to live and survive global ideas. the environmental series in global 3000 on d, w, and online. and ah ah, this is d, w y from berlin, china clamped down on protests against that. 0 covey to policy barriers go, offers police deal with demonstrators calling for president, gigi, and ping to reside. also on the program. an exclusive report from cason in southern new crying, we hear about being left to prisoners held by russian occupying forces. d w.
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investigation and cover uncovered cooperation between scientists in germany and north korea. despite the un moratorium. goals galore the football world cup, serbia uncommon room were both looking to score for the 1st time and exceeded expectations. ah i'm so gale. welcome to the program. china is clamping down on protest against it's unpopular 0 cove. it policy, thousands of people have taken part in demonstrations, calling for an end to lock downs and in some cases for president, gigi, and pings resignation. shyness strict censorship. laws mean that such protests are extremely rare, and rallies have been held around the world in solidarity with the chinese protests . beijing has ease restrictions,
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but showing little sign of backing down. in downtown shanghai, a heavy police prison has replaced the huge proteus which filled these streets. police cars, tracks, and offices are out and force huge fences now in place to stop crowns. gathering authorities here a working to remove all evidence of the protests, demanding these women delete photos from the fines. when i go over here they have wrist. one protested with police telling reporters the men didn't obey their arrangements. he's not the only one to have been detained. the social media footage shows a b, b, c journalist being arrested while protest as chant for his release. the baby ceases . he was assaulted before being fried. chinese authorities say he didn't properly identify himself. the proteus are an extremely ria show of descent with many here
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reaching the limits. ballade is pretty neighbor and loyal to you. i think everyone has their own demands in this matter. logo, yo, you and i think it's good for the environment of the whole country to have such a space for discussion. rallies and solidarity with china's demonstrations have now sprayed around the world. large crowds gathered outside the embassy in london. and here in tokyo, calling for an end to china's strict coven restrictions. but chinese authorities are refusing to change course. you know, we believe that with leadership and the support of the chinese people are fight against coven 19 will be successful. the way there has been a slight easing of restrictions in the western city of food and cheese were a deadly apartment fire last week sparked much of the recent and reast. some
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residents have been confined to their homes for months. can travel on local buses from tuesday, some small relief, but far from the into the government's 0 cove and policy that so meaning demanding . let's look at this with andrew small who is a major researcher with a german marshall fund who specializes in relations between china and the u. s. i've been in china and europe. welcome to d. w. how exceptional are the scenes that we're witnessing? they're very much exceptional, i think people have said the scale and breadth of these protests is something that we haven't seen for decades. we've, we've seen kind of isolated covey process and we see lots of local protests over specific issues. but this kind of uniting around a fairly common cause and the direct coals directed at the central leadership. and that you can think himself is not something we've seen. so what's behind it than
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china? of course, as this is down to foreign agitation. but what moves so many people to take to the streets in certain, in such numbers, in such a repressive regime? the coven control measures have now been in place for such an extended period of time. and for, for the 1st considerable phase of this, i think there was a high level of understanding that this was necessary. and now what people are seeing. and if some are pointed to the world cop scenes of mosque, less people not just from the advanced economy but from, from other parts of the developing world. but broadly speaking, people are aware that the rest of the world has returned to normality. and the question is, why is this not happened in china? and there are 2 explanations for one is that the government must be incompetent in failing to put the measures in place with vaccines. and the health care system to
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enable a sort of reopening to be possible. or the other one is that they like to maintain the level of societal control that the 0 coven policies exemplify and, and, and enable them to maintain neither of these things or situations that people are willing to put up with for years on end. and after the party congress, i think the sense that took place recently, i think the people have been looking for some hope that these policies might be reversed. but the chinese government still isn't even in a position to do that. given a pull vaccination levels. the of the unwillingness to roll these out with foreign m r n a vaccines. so they're not even in a position if the pressure is maintained to really push back on the 0 over policies without having a tremendous effect on the health of the elderly chinese. so i think the census is a bit of despair at the moment at people being locked down for years on end, and extremely capricious circumstances and seeing their way out of it. though we
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have seen some restrictions in east there's been a modest easing of these restrictions, but we've, we've seen kind of which one also sees in the way the international markets respond . these kind of flashes of hope. but the fundamentals are still, that you do not have the vaccination levels in the elderly population in china that mean that they can be confident to move ahead with anything that approaches a kind of real relaxation of 0 hope it policies while the infection rates are so high and have been rising, that they're not in a position to do that without projected levels of deaths that go into the hundreds of thousands, even into the millions of people as, as things stand. so that they will probably try to pull back a little bit on the, the most repressive of the policies that they pursued. the kind of barricading people in the homes and, and the sorts of things that people have been pushing back against my family. but
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the fundamentals of the policy, they're still stuck with for a little while to come. that's very clear. thank you so much for joining us. and i'm not to for sandra small from the gym of ukraine, where president landscape has warranties country to prepare for a new wave of russian ass strikes, declaring that as long as moscow has missiles, it will not rest us weeks, intense russian rocket strikes. and course the most damaging power since the war began. millions have been without electricity or heat. the authorities, a power water supply in the capitol have now been restored. correspondent nicolai is in keith and told me how people are dealing with the outages. stephanie tossed, you might be able to see behind me quite how few lights are on here in cable though, the system, the system has been stabilized as a text last week and it definitely feels like everyone now is an expert on generators. you can't get any diesel generators or either here or in europe. they
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are all sold out. people having to move to less efficient petrol generators. people talking about that to power banks, different ways of kind of making the best of a few hours a day. they do have access to means power, but people are thinking about whether it's maybe a better idea to move out of the city from their kind of high rise apartments to their weekend houses. rural kind of cottages, places where you can heat with wood or other things that you can kind of organize yourself without being dependent on a complex system. and there is, as you mentioned there, that fear of further russian attacks. it feels like every time the russians attack with those missiles that it takes a little longer for the system to kind of recalibrate itself. but there's no panic yet. i think the most important thing is that people more less have access to mobile phone networks can communicate. and i think that's been my kind of most lasting impression is that when the power goes out and the mobile phone more stop working, that's when people get a bit nervous cuz they can't find out how the family doing what to expect. as long as that's around, people somehow make the best of it. and what about places like hassan in the southward had been liberated that have been liberated by ukrainian forces,
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but are still facing daily a russian bombardment? well, in terms of the infrastructure, the situation, there is much, much worse, that city has been without logic, that power without water for weeks now. and you can imagine trying to repair their systems during kind of constant or to re bombardments is basically impossible. but it's not just about the candidate day, those people now coming out of 8 months of occupation and trying to work out what the russian army did, their, how people were affected. if what they saw, the kinds of things that we saw him had given butch anarchy of those kind of human rights abuses. i met some people who have been imprisoned for over a month by the russians. efforts on let's have a look at what had se queuing for food, huddling around the few working, why fi hotspots carrying on in spite of the shelling all around them. this is what every day life looks like and have some government key of what people to evacuate
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to aries with power water away from the russian guns. the neil and victoria stayed put during 8 long months of russian occupation. they're not about to go anywhere. now. they might seem like old friends, but they only met in september from the cellar of this unremarkable of his look as prisoners. and yet others have either forced their way into her flat. my grandma stood with screaming, they let her off into the bathroom. soon i had a bag over my head and they just started beating me over and over. who's your president, who's your president, you're coming with us. it's going to be a lot of fun. so i miss the neil had subscribe to appro ukrainian check group on telegram enough for her sons. increasingly anxious, rush notifies to come off to him. victoria had been volunteering, taking food people in need when her group came into suspicion for contacts in government control territory. when the russians rated her home, he found you when you flags on the souvenirs and postcards. usual,
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i guess that means your enemy doesn't. to the interrogator asked me, i agreed with him. but what do people do to the enemy off to the killed them? i replied that you're right. you said they talked to them 1st. i didn't, i didn't think i'd get out of there alive. why? it was during the new had no idea where it was had been kept there. he realized had spent all those weeks in the middle of have songs, and they recognized pictures of their basement shed online. we tried to go inside, but the police isn't letting anyone in the risk of russian mines. it's just too high. all denila victoria ever saw was their self. as soon as they left it, there were captain hoods, they kept as determined to remain unseen. but as little as they could see, they could hear more than they wanted. 2 of us, the worst was hearing your screams running. i was the loudest in our basement. you're in the interrogation. see of what all the cells could hear, yelping, i was unbearable. the men's shouts didn't travel quite as far. but when you started,
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all i could do was pray that they'd go easy. all you knew of ourselves quite. i wasn't within the pat my last interrogation. my hands were bound. the pain from the electric shocks was so bad that i didn't even notice that i'd pulled a nail out. but all of a sudden i could feel the blood dripping my hands my trousers. they were all covered in blood than me. but the most terrifying moment was still to come of 2 weeks without news while the inmates was suddenly driven out to the city. that guards telling them it was time to say their prayers. on the side of the that they made every one record a short video. you had to say your name, your date of birth, and saying to the camera that you were alive and well, for a moment i was really worried. what do they need this for? when she was that, did they need an alibi? and when you brush geffrey at the ceiling, they were told to close their eyes and count to a 100. but instead of the shots that expected, they heard they kept as driving away without them me asking to put that the likelihood there russian kept his low face justice, his slim, the torch,
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all the evidence that they left. at least one good thing has come of it all. victoria tells me with done being scared. i recall from her nick calmly who still with us in case welcome aback. nick, what sort of support is there for people like at the kneeling victoria? it must be traumatized after all have been through while ukraine civil side, he is fully aware of this change and there are all kinds of charities, all kinds of volunteer groups, offering support. but i think it's for little early, i think most people are still trying to get their heads around what happened themselves and not really in a state to go talk about it in that kind of psychological kind of support sense and people who are trying to survive there you can see that there while trying to get in to the seller that they'd spent the best part of a month and there was still a lot of shelling going on that is getting worse since we left her so on. and people are without work and basically trying to kind of deal with their very basic kind of survival issues. but i think there is
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a real consent in ukraine that when this war is over, not just the civilians who are, you know, tortured ended up in a russian basement like that, but also hundreds, thousands, if not more competent. soldiers are going to need some help because this is a country that basically woke up on the 24th february in a full scale war that no one here really wants to believe as possible and has seen, you know, tens of thousands of people lose their lives and lots of people spending months and months under occupation, a great risk themselves. so there's definitely a huge need there. and i think there is a growing awareness that you know, if you can, wants to come back some kind of normality after this war. and it's going to be a lot of work, need to be done. thank for that now. make conley in the crane and capital i. here's a look at a small store is making news around the world. police force is in 6th countries have brought down an international cocaine rang almost 50 people have been arrested in europe and the united arab emirates and around 30 tons of drugs have been seized . least 4 people have been killed us, millicent, storm,
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the hotel. and some on the somali capital mogadishu, security forces are trying to regain control of the building, which is popular with politicians. i'll sure bob miller since affiliated to al qaeda, say that carried out your attack. at least 15 people have died in a landslide income in the covenant capital you own day. victims have been attending a funeral settlement. rescue teams are still searching for survivors as dozens more are missing. government describe the area as dangerous and urged people to leave for his german know how being used in north korean advances and dangerous technologies. researchers from d. w is investigative team, discovered cooperation between scientists in germany and north korea continued. and even after the united nations issued a moratorium on such activities in 2016 and looked into one particularly troubling example here in ballard. a barrage of
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missiles growing concerned about a possible 7th nuclear test. north korea's dictator kim duncan has overseen rapid advances in military capabilities. but he's la casita will progress in science and technology to try to stop this. in 2016, the un asked all member states to suspend all academic exchange and scientific corporation with north korea except for rare cases with special permission but her assert her at berlin bay's max ball institute continued to work with the north korean colleagues without asking german or tore it, is for an exemption to the sanctions. in fact, m b, i research your kim herman published 9 research papers with north koreans between 20172020. all 9 papers describe fundamental research in laser technology where real world applications are naughty,
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mediately apparent. d, w, discuss them with 10 independent bank spurts, 6 physicists and for disarmament. experts, half of the physicists saw no danger, while the others said they could imagine the work. 80 military aims in the future. but all disarmament expert were all armed. especially customer he suffered carver who served on the un panel of experts on north korea. those papers published after 2015 appears to me to be the case of clear violation. oh yes, if you're a cancellation for dick if north korea have been known to have quite an accumulated significant amount over teen home, asian reuben to wash my fund and you get pro in a formal joint to collation with 40 situations. dr. herman declined an
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interview. mark of rocking director of the m b. i told the w, they had never received an official request to suspend corporation. we have not been aware of the nature of the sanctions. i the u. n. b, r is all he searches took me, cannot be aware of every sanction. and every law that is, sir, that is issued anywhere in the world. so determined his politicians fail in notting, forming them as gifts to bring on to their obligations on both sides. and for those and a scientific community who have not noticed that there is a comprehensive sanctions regime against north korea, i would really want to ask them a number of questions about how such a thing can happen with young the n b, i eventually did stop herman's cooperation of its own accord, there was 9 research papers and it'll be 4 years after the un asked for such will. to stop esther feldman is one of the investigative reporters who worked on this story. welcome asked us, how did you find out about it?
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well, actually i stumbled across a study which was published by a u. s. institute in late 2018. and what they did was basically they counted how often north korean scientists collaborated with international partners. and not surprisingly, china came in 1st, but germany of all countries came in 2nd. and they mentioned one particular institute, which was the m b i. and that was one we decided we need to take a closer look. okay. and so, how did this happen? well, basically it's a failure on all layers. there's not like one person or one institute to blame m. c . in germany, we have a freedom of science which is protected by the constitution. so politics doesn't interfere. but on the other hand, it means that the single researcher or the single institute, they have a lot of responsibility on their plate. so they are the ones they have to identify a possible dual youth risks. and then approach export control services. and if they
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don't, nothing happens. and this was exactly the case with the m b i. they never approached export control services. and also i would like to point out that on the security agencies, they issued warnings as early as 2016 in connection with north korea. and sensible knowledge transfer, but those warnings went an answer that they weren't hurt. so does this mean that so as a number of german scientists are going to be march off to jail? no, probably not. i talked to legal experts on sanctions law. and they explained to me that there has to be a proof of intent on the side of the party involved. and the m b. i said they just weren't aware of the nature of the sanctions. so yes, you can say they were negligent or they were ignorant that there wasn't any intent on their part. however, i also talked to
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a former member of the un panel of experts on north korea. and he said, or he suggested that based on our d, w research, there should be un investigation in this case. but as far as we can tell if you, if you say that there doesn't appear to be in touch, it's not like there was a rush respirator. we're going to try defy sanctions and slip this through. they were just heads down. scientists were scientists not lawyers, definitely. i wouldn't say there was any intent. and so what needs to happen in germany, particularly given the best part of the constitution, what needs to happen here to make sure this doesn't happen again? well, actually there should be a discussion involving all the parties involved. no one can do this alone. it's just too big. so the signs world should be involved. politics should be involved. also, the security agencies should be involved for this is also about security risks. and this discussion needs to be about the fundamental question,
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are there limits to freedom of science and if so, where should they be? and as you know, might know, like in china, there's also debate how to go about them, or the case of russia. germany stopped all academic collaborations, right after the war against ukraine started. so maybe this should happen here too. ok. thank you for that ester esther felt an investigative reporter here at the w. and you can see the whole extended story of this investigation into the dangers of scientific cooperation with north korea on the date of the news channel on you should ah, well, at the football well cup in katara group b, clash between cameroon and serbia, turned into a gold fast, but despite all goals each side had to make do with just the one point camera and took the lead after 29 minutes. it was their 1st goal at the tournament. it was also a 1st for serbia when they equalized just before the break and they weren't
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done yet. just a minute later, there turned the game on it said to one serbia at half time after the break serbia state in control of the game. alexander meter, which with the 7th gold in the last 6 games for his country. but cameroon, wouldn't surrender and showed their fighting spirit. a beautiful chip from vincent abaca got them within a gold, around the one hour mark. and just 3 minutes later by our munich striker eric maxime chopper meting with the easy tap in for cameroon. serbia with the last big chance of the match. but the shot just went wide. 33, the final school. the result that keeps both countries world cup hopes alive at that i 2nd match. so gonna stave off elimination with a narrow victory mohammed. kudos a score twice. forgot i including the go ahead. gall,
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after soft gray had even the match. 3 points for the gonna and when mean nice day in contention to reach the knockout route. i'm looking back to late to sunday at germany restored some pride after that defeat in that 1st match the toilet by drawing one all with spain in group 8 after golden 1st half albano. but after i put spain one mill off on 62 minutes and nicholas a few crew smashed in an equalize with 7 minutes to go. jim, you still need to win their last game against costa rica to have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage? well after that nail biter d, w spoke with germany, fans and guitar. many weren't satisfied with that one old jewel. i have mixed feelings. you know, i don't know. should i be happy because we are down 10. i'm pretty much our the tournament or should i be sad because i feel like we could try to score in the last
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minute or the more we had some, some chances, a score. now we have 2 beats costa rica. now we have to figure out a way to get a lucky, i guess because of jap roger bandwidth or we have no chance our efficiency efficiency . they just need to score. i mean for example, mozilla perfect dribbling but he just needs to score. so if they do it, they won't just go one goal, they will do $34.00 goals. yeah, excellent, point relieve like, it was quite disappointing. first match could believe that we lose. and now there's still some hope away from football on the dance floor. many of us, for many of us dancing, imperfect step with one other person is hard enough. so how about dancing with 2000 but these dances in venezuela looking to break a, get his world record for the was largest south. a say i roy, the casino dance, where couples formed circles and crate patterns at the same time. cut a record is held. i spank
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