[000:00:00;00] ah, the corona virus pandemic is ending everywhere. it seems, except where it began in china. new covey cases are, skyrocketing, cities are under locked down. it's so bad that protests have erupted nationwide. they're even calls for president. she's in pink to resign. now police may be able to snuff out the protests this week, but the fact that they can even take place and so quickly it has to send a strong signal to she gin pe. he may have a tight grip on political power, but his 0 coping policy it may be backfire. tonight. shine is leader suddenly. looks week. how long can that last? i'm bring golf berlin. this is the day.

ah, let's say that you my right, when a free does wanna pre our country funding, i regulated, i think, to pull that and the europe of the is sort of the, the spark that ignited it. this way, the process of know what is going on, because this loved too much transparency a. we're increasingly even noise. stevens is not just about here content, but with the broader nature of the political system. we have human dignity. we're humans, we are chinese, and we need constitutionality also coming up tonight, the, you win band scientific collaboration with north korea back in 2016. but t w has discovered one institute here in berlin. that apparently missed that memo.

and for those in a scientific community who have not noticed that there's a comprehensive sanctions regime against north korea, i would really want to ask them a number of questions about how such a thing can happen. see and come to our viewers watching a p b as in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome a. we begin the day with a corona, virus pandemic in china. the pandemic that just isn't getting better. most of the world has learned how to live with the virus so much so that we now talk about that return to normal. but it is the opposite in china, new daily covered cases and hit record highs 6 days. running cities are back under, locked out in this, in a country with a 0 covet policy, a pressure cooker of cupboard restrictions that has begun exploding over the weekend across the country, protest erupted against orders to remain at home. yet again,

most striking there are public calls for president. she can ping to resign on china's vast police force may be able to restore order. but what are, how long can the world's 2nd largest economy, the factory to the world? how long can it afford to keep going this way? 0. cobit is weighing heavily so far. she can things leadership does not offer a prescription for relief. ah, in downtown shanghai, a heavy police presence has replaced the huge proteins which filled these streets, police, cars, trucks and offices out and forth. huge fin fits now in place to stop crowns, gathering authority if you're looking to remove all evidence of the protein demanding these women delete, fungi, it's from the fines oh, here they have reached when protested with police telling reports as the men didn't obey their arrangements, he's not the only one to athene to take,

and the social media footage shows a b, b, c journalist being arrested while protest is chant for his release. the baby ceases . he was assaulted before being fried. chinese authorities say he didn't properly identify himself. the proteus are an extremely ria show of descent with many here reaching their limits. ballade is pretty neighbor and loyal to you. i think everyone has their own demands in this matter. logo, yo, you and i think it's good for the environment of the whole country to have such a space for discussion. rallies and solidarity with china's demonstrations have now sprayed around the world. large crowds gathered outside the embassy in london. and here in tokyo, calling for an end to china's strict coven restrictions. but

chinese authorities are refusing to change course. you know, we believe that with leadership and the support of the chinese people are fight against coven 19 will be successful. the way there has been a slight easing of restrictions in the western city of odom. she, we are a deadly apartment fire last week, spark much of the recent and reast. some residents have been confined to their homes for months, can travel on local buses from tuesday, some small relief, but far from the in to the governments. 0 cove and policy that so many are demanding a jewish fabi in crunch. mert is in beijing. t has more on what is happening on the ground. yeah, today, i mean it's really, it seems calm he also engaging and where are several hundreds, if not thousands of protesters together last night. but still you see a lot of proof police not only in uniforms. awesome. plainclothes and you know,

it could snap any time and it's really to a tense atmosphere. and me as a journalist, i was immediately kicked out of the protest site. and just by standing there when they identified me as a journalist, m. so let's see how it will develop it. i mean, in shanghai, what the authorities did, they basically fenced of all the squares a fenced off and a several streets. but i mean, yeah, that's, that's of course, intimidating. and yeah, we know that there have been several arrests, but i mean what they cannot do is, you know, to, to change the attitude. they were already so many protests us out there last night and they achieved it. they did it, and many people saw it. and they spread from what to work, and i think that has a big impact. i'm doing now by mary gallagher, and she's a professor of political science at the university of michigan. she is also the director of the center for chinese studies professor. it's good to have you on the program. you know, we just heard or reported. they're talking about the,

the monday call and the fact that there's still this tension in the air or how do you read that? i mean, are we passed the protests? well, i think we've seen in the last 24 hours, just a hugely increased police presence. you know, these arrests and the barricades that have gone up the harassment of journalists. so it's possible that you know, the chinese government has a lot of capacity. they can shut these protests down, but they're not really gonna solve the problem right? there are still going to be a lot of dissatisfaction, a lot of anger underneath a about the lock downs and about 0 cove it. and also just about the political environment it's, it's, i think a lot of people believe that the political environment is partly why the policy won't change. you explain that to me because i think people around the world are looking at this and, and asking themselves, are these protests solely about the pandemic uncovered,

or is there something else or place you yeah, i think that's a good question. said this, these protests really did start out around cove. it, they started about the fire in a room and she and people really saw the fire as something that could happen to themselves. right? that these a locked downs are putting their lives at risk if they need to get to the doctor if there's a fire. i'm but what happened very quickly, which is unusual for protest in china, is that they became political and they became tart. they targeted the central government, they targeted she's in ping himself and i think what's happening is that of, for the young, educated youth who are protesting in particular they see the policy environment, the rigidity of 0 cove. it as linked to the political environment, a political environment that's much more closed. and that's very centralized around this, you know, single leader who's now started his 3rd term and who has made 0 cove at his signature policy. and that is his signature policy going to be his 1st

major failure. i would say it's already clearly a failure. i think these are protest are long in coming. people have been frustrated for a while. the shanghai locked down at the beginning of the year was really devastating. and i think that this is just, people are fed up and she's in pain. has become the target, which is, you know, like i said, very unusual for protest in china. usually, protests are local, they target local issues and local officials and people generally think that the central government is better, the central government is more adapt it's, it's more, it has more capacity. but a 0 cove it is directly attached to the central government. it's directly attached to she dem ping and it's not sustainable. and i think people have realized that as the world has moved on, china is being left behind. and kinda changing being can he doing course reversal here without losing face. getting rid of the researchers on and by

justifying it with the fact that we are the factor to the world, we have to get back to work on the supply chains on this plan dependents. i think they could. i mean, i think they need to switch the narrative and they should have been doing this for several months now. it's a little bit of perplexing to me. and i think to a lot of experts on china, why we haven't seen the central government a be more adept at turning away from this policy, gradually. a boosting, vaccinations among the elderly, increasing health care capacity, particularly i see use because every country that's gone through cove, it has had to go through a reopening, where deaths have gone up and they have not been able to figure out a way to get the country ready for what's coming up? well, he should be able to do that. why they haven't been able to do that thus far is, is really perplexing here. and we talk about new daily cases. no hitting record high 6 days in a row. but how reliable are these statistics, i mean,

have we ever been able to really rely or believe in the numbers coming out of beijing about this pandemic? i mean, i think the numbers on, on cases is probably fairly accurate because they do so much testing. i think the deaths are probably under counted because the way in which they designate a death from cove it is a little bit different than most other places. so i do think that the trends are probably fairly accurate and clearly, you know, china has done better in terms of the number of deaths, but it's partly done better because it just hasn't been able to move out of what they, you know, what they did at the very beginning which were just these really massive and very, very severe locked downs. professor mary gallagher from the university of michigan professor, we appreciate your time and your insights to not very valuable. thank you. thank you. ah. is it german no hell being used illegally to help the regime in north korea 6 years ago,

the u. n. band scientific cooperation with pyongyang, but t w's investigative unit has discovered one potential disturbing violation of that ban. and our reporters didn't have to go far at all to find the story. here's more a barrage of missiles growing concerned about a possible 7th nuclear test. north korea's dictator kim duncan has overseen rapid advances in military capabilities. these la casita will progress in science and technology to try to stop this in 2016, the un asked all member states to suspend all academic exchange and scientific corporation with north korea except for rare cases with special permission. but there are certain at berlin bays, mack small institute continue to work with north korean colleagues without asking

german authorities for an exemption to the sanctions. in fact, m b, i research your kim herman published 9 research papers with north koreans between 20172024. all 9 paper is described fundamental research in laser technology where real world applications are not immediately apparent. d w, discuss them with 10 independent experts, 6 physicists and for disarmament. experts, half of the physicists saw no danger while the other said they could imagine their work. 80 military aims in the future. but all disarmament experts were alarmed especially cut. so he suffered to cover who served on the un panel of experts on north korea. those papers published after 2016 up to me to be careful, courier polish him. oh, you think you're a comfort, lucian, for dykus,

north grade have been norm to help are quite and accumulate to a significant amount or t home asian rogue, want to ask miss long new cra, uniform or joint cooperation with for institutions. dr. herman declined an interview. mark of rocking director of the m b, i told d w. they had never received an official request to suspend corporation. we have not been aware of the nature of the sanctions. i the u. n. b r is all he searches stood. we cannot be aware of every sanction and every law that is sir, that is issued anywhere in the world. so determined his politicians fail in notting, forming them as gifts to bring on to their obligations on both sides. and for those and a scientific community who have not noticed that there is a comprehensive sanctions regime against north korea, i would really want to ask them a number of questions about how such a thing can happen. i was young,

the n b i eventually did stop herman's cooperation of its own accord. but there was 9 research papers in nearly 4 years after the un asked for such will to stop. and my colleague esther felt she is one of the investigative reporters who worked on the story. she's at the big table with me now there's a lot to talk about here as to how did you, how did you find out about this one lead? well, actually i stumbled across a study which was published by a u. s. institute in late 2018. and what they did was they basically counted how often north korean scientists worked together in international collaborations with partner institutions. and not surprisingly, china was in the lead by far, but germany came in 2nd place of all countries. and one institution stood out particularly,

which was the m b i. and that was when we decided that we would like to take a closer look in the store, we just saw it seemed like they were drawing the claim. well, we didn't know about the ban, which is hard to believe when you're talking about the north korean regime. i mean, is this a case where you have systemic failure of some sort or me who was really at fault here? it's not an easy question to answer because as you said, it's like a failure on all layers. basically, it's the individual scientist at the institute of politics. it's expert control communication. nothing really worth here in this, in this case. and as you know, we have a freedom of science and research in germany which is protected by the constitution . and that means that the institutes themselves are free to choose whom they do research with and also the projects they do research on. but this freedom also comes with a big responsibility on their part because they are basically the ones,

the only ones who have to decide whether there might be a dual use potential. and in doubt, they are supposed to contact export control. but however, if they don't contact export controls or authorities, nothing happens. and that's exactly what happened in the sam. yeah, it's hard to believe that researchers and here in berlin that they would not even have a warren bills going off. just thinking about doing collaboration with north korea . i mean it's almost like they're living in a geo political vacuum. right. i mean they, they told us they were not aware of this particular collaboration where they weren't aware of the, the sanctions, the nature of the sanctions in place. and as a matter of fact, i don't think there was intend to circumvent sanctions or anything like that. you can surely say they were there was negligence or they were ignorant of sanctions. maybe they were not eve, but they did not do this on purpose,

which is also why there probably won't be any legal consequences. me ask you, i mean our charge is going to be filed or will, will some one or will institution be held accountable? now probably not. we talk to legal experts on sanctions laws about this. and they explain to us that you need to be able to show some kind of intent in order to pursue this in court. and this won't happen. it's very difficult. also, the sanctions themselves are not legally binding. and which makes this extremely complicated because the member states of the united nations, they 1st have to implement them within their legal frameworks. and that might differ slightly in wording. and so it's, it's an extremely complex nature. so i'm wondering what needs to happen here in germany to prevent something like this from happening again. i mean there are a lot of north korea's on the planet, thankfully, but still, i mean these,

these things should be obvious. yeah, i think that's like the most important question and obviously it's not easy to answer either several experts talk to us and, and said, well, they think there should be a fundamental discuss about the freedom of science that we talked about earlier. and a fundamental discussion about whether this freedom of fines should have limits and red lines, but all parties would need to be involved. the science community, politicians, expert control. everyone is definitely a major wakeup call for sure. mr. phillip esther, excellent report. thank you. 005 of the world's leading news outlets have issued a joint call for the us to drop its prosecution of wiki leaks, founder julian assad. sondra means in custody in britain, pending a u. s. extradition request to face trial for divulging

u. s. military secrets about the wars in iraq and afghanistan. and today's open letter was signed by editors at germany's there spiegel the guardian, the new york times, as well as lamond and lp. yes, exactly. 12 years ago, these very newspapers collaborate with wiki leaks to release excerpts from more than 250000 u. s. diplomatic cables. in what became known as cable get. what i want to do, and here is part of today's open letter. it reads, obtaining and disclosing sensitive information when necessary in the public interest is a core part of the daily work of journalists. if that work is criminalize, our public discourse and our democracies are made significantly weaker 12 years after the publication of cable gate. it is time for the u. s. government to end its prosecution of julian assault for publishing secrets. publishing is not a cry,

not a crime, but a sanchez, long running legal ordeal is already taken a heavy toll. the australian national hasn't been a free man for more than a decade since he fled to ecuador is embassy in london. back in 2012. he's been at a higher security gel cell in london since 2019 where his lawyers say his health has been deteriorated. and if expedited to the u. s. he faces a sentence of up to get this 175 years under the espionage act. it publishing is on a cry, the punishment for julian to sarge. it's very, ah, your greatest president modem is a lensky, as warned to his country to prepare for a new wave of russian air strikes. li declaring that as long as moscow has missiles, it will not rest. last week's intense russian airstrikes caused the most damage to the country's power grid that we have seen since the war began in february.

millions remained without electricity or heat. authorities do say, however, that power and water supply from the capital key are now being restored. with an increasing number of russian attacks on ukraine's infrastructure, many european countries are preparing for an influx of ukrainian refugees. the city of berlin right here, for example, has taken in nearly 90000 refugees from ukraine this year. it's working on more accommodation, including huge 10th facilities at a former airport. local churches are also stopping in to help. it was supposed to be emergency accommodation, but for around 30 ukrainian refugees. this is home now. the community hall of the marcus congregation in berlin. the church pays for the refugees, stay here. finding a permanent apartment in berlin is almost impossible, unnatural enough sky and her 8 year old daughter announced a c. i found a room for a few months now. they had to come back. they say that dormitory almost feels like

home on the fled with her 2 children from odessa back in march. really a by alice good m u. i was so scared when people in ukraine said, you need to leave save your children. it is, and i was so scared to go to a foreign country where i don't know the language of the people, the mentality. but here we've been treated so warmly. the volunteers here have been so dedicated to helping the ukrainian refugees that the church has employed. some of them to sort through donations and groceries and help translate several are originally from russia. but here it's support in hard times that counts rather than national boundaries. and the volunteers expect a tough winter the uncover to teton this officers presume we have space for 80 people here. 0400 in case of a crisis and phil, right. i think we're ready. okay, we'll give oh old to help these people on take them in. definitely of him for help info with winter setting in berlin's government is in

a race against time. for example, at this former airport, currently new arrivals from ukraine register and live here temporarily before they can be moved on within berlin or to other german cities. to heated tents at the old airport house, $400.00 people each, but they're almost full. by the end of the year, the city plans to set up more permanent housing for an additional $10000.00 refugees. well that's the list. this does differ vile go and is what people stay in this temporary housing to be short from him so that we can offer people a place to move on to my off i left the mental unbidden. ken will stand on not hanging on wednesdays, but at the moment people have been arriving faster than we can create places for them. either shuffle couldn't come back at the marcus church community. one ukrainian family has been able to move into a permanent separate apartment after months and a tiny room with 2 infants. their mother, eula is relieved, but feeling fully at home can be hard. many of the families,

relatives are still in ukraine. the damage runs against useless. we are living here in peace and quiet in a wal nice place and they are there with that. we still feel like we are somehow in limbo, but i am trying to live in the current reality. i'm living here with the kids. i have to crate a comfortable life for them. what lacy's not with the war. dragging on and winter ahead. you williams family is lucky even now. hundreds of ukrainians are stuck in a rival centers in berlin, hoping for a more permanent home. and finally, the word guess white, miriam webster, dictionary has made guess lighting it word of the year now was to find a psychological manipulation causing people to question their own. for how many times have you been guess white this year? the day's almost done,

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