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ah, around the world, more than 300000000 people are seeking refuge. yes. why? because no one should have to flee. make up your own mind. d. w. made for mines. ah, this is it over here is aisha coming up to date. can't chinese censorship? suppressed anger over draconian covert measures. both of these begin to center information on mobile phones, tv, and the internet to do with 20 covered protests in the country and abroad. but is this stopping chinese people from getting the information they want from where they want? ah,
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my british manager, welcome to the doctor, news asia. glad you could join us. antique over protests in china appear to be on pause. after the weekend of demonstrations across the country. heavy police presence and barricades insured protested, stayed away. these are images from shanghai from tuesday morning, but the enforcement had already begun a day earlier. police were already checked mobile phones, of passers by in the city, and deleting what they deemed objectionable. and the same extent to chinese television as well as social media. and gentlemen of a more from beijing is correspondent, far beyond gretch my father, read on historic protests over the past few days. how much of it have people seen on chinese television news? when the official media, which is on the state control, you will see nothing. i give you one example in should when gamble,
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that's the biggest news show every day they show the use of the day in the evening on cctv bits. the state broadcast every show will start with seating thing, doing something, for example, visiting effect reach. nowadays, the news, the sitting thing met with the mongolian president, but you know, those protests will not take place. they are the only possible been that i could imagine how they would possible those protests would be, you know, the like pouring forth the quote unquote provoking trouble of something like this. i mean, the chinese media really a parallel reality, quite detached from what's happening here on the ground. i mean me to kind of, you will not find any mention in chinese media or, you know, human rights violations. young that doesn't exist in the cost of the state media. and what about online, are people being able to share information about these protests online?
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well, i mean, yes. so on social media is definitely more free. this for example, the on time platform way ball, which you might. yeah. maybe compared to twitter a little bit or yahoo, that's a platform where you can ask questions. and then there's also go in, which is the chinese version of tick tock. and then, you know, i'm off free to debate, but some topics remains of who and for example, the leadership of seating ping or the power of the c. c. p cannot really debate directly because the send us will step in and you will be very quickly. but you know, if you really say something very critical, you could also get in trouble. so it's also risky. so is all this censorship working? i mean, we've seen today that they've been la empty streets devoid of protesters in beijing and china guy for instance, before is the censorship working with the empty streets also due to the heavy police presence on the ground and to you to the intimidation so that but of course,
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the censorship is working very efficiently. why am it's, it's actually quite smart. it's not only deleting everything, but you know, i would compare it to a metaphor of a boiling water for to. so if you don't leave any space, then you know the popular ball over, but, you know, the chinese sends us usually leave a little bit open. so there is some room to, for example, criticize local governments or maybe talk about the corruption of a, you know, a business man, etc. but you know, the very central questions cannot be debated. and here what we've seen now with the protests, we could see that, you know, everything was flatly deleted people with us. but when they get to eat it, then they would try to keep those videos on the site or make a filter on them or find other ways to around the censorship and when that even didn't work anymore. some just found very indirect ways to criticize the government
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. one was for example, to just post long essays, long texts, which only consisted of one character, namely how, which is a good good, everything is good. and when people saw those text, which basically said good, good, good, good, good. in like $600.00 times in a row, they renew it was a catholic, was ironic, and maybe people outside of china would understand this. but really, the young chinese are very smart in reading between the lines and finding very indirect ways to criticize the government. literally reading between the lines. so this will also not be the 1st time, as you mentioned that the chinese internet and tv platforms have been censored. so how do chinese get that information when censorship kicks in? yes, there is always one way because the chinese internet is heavily tends or heavily controlled. if you really want to access free information, you need to get around it. and how can you do that? you can have a v p n, a software on your phone, on your laptop, that's basically
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a ton of to prevent it to get out of the chinese internet. and if you turn on the c p n, which doesn't work very reliable and really quite complicated, only few vpn software are still working, then you can access twitter, then you can access instagram, telegram, etc, you can access also the w, et cetera. so then a chinese user, they are posting pictures and once they went on to their document that they cannot be deleted any more by chinese sensors. that's how basically stuff gets out and the world knows about those protests. and does the chinese state truly believe that in this day and age sensitive information will actually prevent people from accessing it? which, i mean, it's kind of ambivalence at 1st. when you know, social media was starting, the chinese government was very afraid, especially after seeing the revolutions in the arabic world. and so the censorship kicked in very, very roughly. but sometimes they found out they can also use to send the ship. they
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can use the technological developments for their own turn to us. so, i mean, right now it works quite a lot. many chinese actually don't use a v p n, so they stay within this cost most and they don't even know what's happening in their own country. to some degree, and they're of course, many old people who would, you know, read people's day the, the party newspaper watch when gamble the t v news. so they don't have any idea about those protests or stay with us because another dimension to this is the information that chinese citizens are getting from outside such as about the current football world cup in quarter, where images of fans fillings, him to the mosque source of distancing or quarantine hello, i have left many chinese citizens wondering why their country is still trying to stand boat covered when people elsewhere are living with it. nowhere, not even china is immune from what old cut fever. funds and shanghai have gathered
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to te can a game. but the spectacle has also offered a window one to a world which has left covert behind. i really envy them. despite the cheer the threat of coven, and particularly strict locked downs loon large. though some still think b james hard line approach is right. the withered and given chinese size and medical resources, i think it should reopen slowly and that it's ok to keep the 0 coated policy for now. but while the matches may be on in china, the chinese are being served up a sanitized version. one sports writer has compared game coverage, revealing subtle differences. the 1st clip was what viewers outside china saw mosque las fans cheering their team. and this was what chinese state tv showed
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the coach on the touch line, shouting instructions. despite those efforts, the scenes from kits har of triggered, some soul searching online. one weeble user said, you either locked down everything or you let go. the cut her welled cup is proving that it's time to treat cove it as a regular infectious disease. another asked, is there no coven elsewhere? every one at the world cup looks so happy where living in the same world aren't we? a 3rd said look at the smile on the world cup audience his face. then look at us. the tournament it seems has offer china not just some distraction, but also cause for self reflection. for him to have these are images from the football world cup further added to anger about china covered restrictions.
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yeah. extremely, really because those direct information is often sends out. but a football tournament is something very a political. so the propaganda apparatus haven't, hasn't even thought about that. this could spark anger in the beginning, but it had a huge backlash. the people were watching, you know, on the tv, the football woke up, they saw no tens of thousands of people in the stadium. a cheering, having a good time without masks, and was they themselves sit at home, locked down, probably cannot even leave the apartment. so they began to ask questions and that had a huge effect that was very frustrating for many chinese. and what seems to be the state t v actually did. they changed the way how they broadcast those games? house those games whenever there's a close of fence and you can see them without mask and you know, celebrating they wouldn't know coach or cut to play or have like a bird. you. so you cannot really see those
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a small details that you know, they are fans without mask the stadium. and that gives you an idea how, how smart and efficient this propaganda approaches as walking. they can really adjusted. and if you wouldn't know that in other t b, they show the fence, you don't even know that ccb actually manipulated the broadcast. but if i'm going to stay tv really still the most important source of information for the majority of chinese, it's hard to say, i mean young people, they don't watch it, not at all. they get used from social media. and for them. i mean, they also don't believe for the set in the news. i mean, that's quite laughable. i mean, propaganda is actually really too much over the top and it's comparable to north korean propaganda and some degree and on social media it's a little bit different. and young people basically consume, you know, those video streaming services or label as i mentioned. but many old people actually do consumer state used on the newspaper or she went and bought the new
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show in the tv. so i would say split depends how old you are. these images from the world car perf, are gone, and the antic over protest over the weekend has something changed in china when it comes to what people expect. 2 years into the corporate panoramic. definitely, i think it was of quite a story even though we don't know if we'll continue or not, but not for many a chinese. it was really quite an encouraging a moment to see that some people were daring to go out and to protest. and that was unheard of, i mean, really an unimaginable, just 2 years ago the, it has completely changed the moods here. but the frustration was rising so much that people who had the feeling. ok, we are fed up, we have nothing to lose. we just do it in one once a few did it, then you know, others joined in and they united and they realize, okay, if we are really the masters, then we have a voice and we have some power to speak up program. thanks very much for that,
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rob frederick customer joining us from bridging and that's about it for today. there's of course, more updates from the region on our website, w dot com, forward slash asia as ever you can follow us on facebook and twitter back tomorrow . at the same time, we'll see you then, to play with every journey is full of surprises. we've gone all out to give you some tips with people and i'm in your northern most count to play with
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3 times longer, but still very much alive. d, w, travel, you'll go to the suspension in germany, europe. i recognized where exactly it was fun. i learned a lot, our culture history, all their d. w, travel extremely worth a visit with a guitar and germany strike an energy deal. the gulf nation has agreed to supply europe's biggest economy. what liquefied natural gas as berlin seeks to replace russian energy flows, also coming up after days of protests. china streets are quieter with a heavy police presence. will the government keep cracking down or give in to
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demands to roll back it's 0 coven strategy. this is the w business. i'm janelle dumas on welcome guitars. energy minister has announced a long term deal to supply gas to germany. 2000000 tons of liquefied natural gas will be delivered annually from 2026, with the deal set to last at least 15 years. the agreement between katara estate energy company and you, you as oil giant pinocchio, phillips will see ellen g, the liver to germany's northern bronze buttle terminal. germany has been scrambling for new sources of gas to replace russian supplies in the wake of the war in ukraine. christoph rule is from the center of global energy policy at columbia university. thank you for being here, christoph. so in terms of actually replacing the rush and gas flows that germany wanted to win itself off of how much will this deal actually help.

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