i was able to build a because the cost to really, to me as a person is architecture is a celebration of democracy entities. ah, so buildings, the biggest thing in the world is this. a key amazes to work with his buildings and architect motions. architecture is kind of this free delivery. he'll be discount starts december 25th on d w. ah ah, [000:00:00;00] ah, hello and welcome. it's good to have you about some 8000000 people who have fled

ukraine since the war began in february. the last few months have been extremely traumatic for doors who had to flee their hopes, but not for all. it seems. some are seemingly living a dream life. among the super rich on the french riviera, these images show the luxurious lives of ukrainian billions as an oligarchs far from the war. many of these people live in huge willows under course lay here on sedar cup fed up and fill up. that's what i buy nice, where one of the 3 french camps for war refugees is located. this can lead to of 3rd situations like when traumatized refugees catch a glimpse of the luxurious lives of their ultra rich countrymen. many of them hold these rich people partly responsible for the war in their country, a protest against russia's bombing campaign. these ukrainian women children,

an elderly refugees have fled to southern france, where volunteers like arena pradelle look after them. irina from ukraine herself has been living in france for a long time. i get an egg with a war, continues the winter will be very, very hard, yet so much harder for people in ukraine. that's why people keep coming here. oksana bas over a kindergarten teacher has been helping her to. she fled, give, after the russian invasion, her husband, an engineer still there, fixing electrical infrastructure destroyed by russia. asana, son. alexa knows his father's in great danger and ukraine, and that his mother faces hardship in france. but not all ukrainian refugees along the co desert find themselves in dire straits. ah, in fact, some are very well off living on the luxurious cup for a few subterranean millionaires. billionaires and oligarchs are happy to flood the

riches many are considered decades long supporters of putin and deemed deeply corrupt. now many frequent monte carlos casinos this summer independent online media outlets. cray and sca pravda revealed their identities, dubbing them to monaco battalion. some were members of ukraine's pro russia party, which was outlawed in the summer. is it? i la and north im, all these people were not sandy, part of the corrupt to lead to the sat. it says allah is there also responsible for the war in ukraine is i think, is they called on russia to come to ukraine? ah, in our view, they are truly responsible for this catastrophe disc saturday, the cisco that'll actually deliver dell anake. santa passover have no ties to these which ukrainians. this is is nice, is allowed the french ukrainian cultural center to used as property free of charge . here, frontiers. look after refugees,

providing psychological counseling to children, traumatized by war donations pilot next door. but the cultural center needs plenty of space to look after ukrainian children and teach them french outside ukrainian, mothers and grandmothers wait in line to receive donations. they're allowed to come here once a week. every one is registered. those and need can get private donations and groceries paid for by the welfare state like a few cans of sardines. but is that enough to get through the entire week with? no, no, no. you could like all the rich ukrainians. meanwhile, relax and luxury boats,

or cruise around and expensive cars. ah, in march, the ukrainian anti corruption blogger published this picture, reportedly showing $28000000.00 us $1.13 euros in cash. the picture was taken by hungarian customs officers when the wife of ukrainian parliamentarian crossed into the you. it's unclear while you craning customs officers didn't catch her smuggling the money. maybe this money indicates something larger is afoot. in the summer ukrainian parliamentarian igor abramoff, which was spotted on cup for he left ukraine's pro russia party before it was banned and set up a network of ukrainian parliamentarians abroad or ukraine's old pro russian networks resurfacing and france. eager abramivitch won't talk to you craning.

ah, they're watching date of the news line from a berlin. nicer secretary general again, stalls in bergen. german chancellor. olaf shall to hold an adjoined to press conference here in berlin. come so eyes to list on i figure gov. you are gasoline is a frequent guest here and a guest that we've got the i'm do you like to welcome them all because it we them yesterday had said that we had, he would have a very good job or to talk with the, the norwegian prime minister and we had that done in the evening and we continued with our talks a day that i got, but then was the focus of our talks. and it goes without a question is really about the conflict and ukraine on that on them for blend together with our patient yawn allison by nato and the european union. anti i far beyond the european union, we support or ukraine and we will continue to provide that support for as long as

it is needed, politically, financially, and also militarily and stuff on the decently like russia may not be allowed to windlass will with and that it is also clear that nato itself was not become let soon, a party to the conflict proper. because that could have unforeseeable consequences or for the entire planet in all the fact that russia is trying to redraw about boundaries of countries in europe and has thrown into stark relief. how important the play transatlantic alliance is nato is and remains the central guarantor of arg, on the collective security. the nato summit to madrid in summer was an important milestone on the path towards orienting that good for nato towards the current a present risk and challenges that exist yet because we are not developing for the the are planning for the,

for out from when it's armed forces and plan in the next years, we are also looking at critical infrastructure and ammunition storage and the buildup of an initial lawyer. yet we do hope that dust with sweden and finland will soon be welcomed. as for not fully fledged members of nato law. but it is also clear young for us in germany that our obligation towards nato hidden is an obligation towards any member and any threat arising to any region within this territory, like germany is already committed to the eastern flank, protection of the eastern flank of nato. ha, for example, by sickening 1000 soldiers to lithuania and also by a fight on sending hardware. and by to protect lithuania in, look at the help of industrial euro fighters to protect the baltic sea air space.

federal republic has actually been mobilized and held of prepared 40000 soldiers this year. not for the rapid response forces of nato and next year it will be another 17 who will then be part of the b t, t, f, nato, only by against the positioning. it aligns at the federal armed forces will continue to increase their strength from 2025 on we will be promote providing 30000 soldiers on high my alerted and higher preparedness having horbeth of but out of in my speech in prague, i spoke about these necessity and requirement for a sustainable protection of the european aerospace we have developed a strategy that it has such as a purpose, the strengthening of that objective. and i am very,

very pleased that more than 15 other countries have joined our initiative. we spoke with the secretary general also about the protection of critical infrastructure in particular in the northern baltic c region. the attacks on the north stream to pipelines have shown dumpsters on us if need be that our one victim minds infrastructure needs protection and together with our partners and allies, we want to become active in that field. and also he gets them also to gay. and yesterday, in our conversation with the norwegian prime minister, we agreed that this has to be coordinated in an international context. and nato has to be an integral part of this effort. given the capacity is that as i have nato has, and the mission, germany would to let him welcome a stronger coordinating role that i do not to for nato. he wish lipsy as i log on the sees and nato can mines on the play. a pivotal role in coordinating among

relevant actors and creating and in creating a common space for the actions and also working with the personal coastal states aladin of gum in all of these tasks that are dealt with within gum, our alliance. and i'm very, very grateful for this excellent corporation that is present and beta and that you represent here her role. so there will offer. thank you so much for hosting me here . thank you for the dinner. yes, thank you for the extra me thing today could yes it is. and now please thank you for your leadership on your personal commitment. all the transatlantic pair bonded to our ne thought alliance rushes illegal war in ukraine continues to cause death and mystery every day. as winter sets in russia is bonding ukraine's energy infrastructure,

trying to freeze and store ukrainians into submission. crude thing is to think, winter aster weapon, and we cannot allow him to win. at this critical moment, our continued support through craig is more important than ever. nato is not a party to the concrete kind of we will not be dragged into 2 things war me, indecent. we stung by ukraine. in his roy, his self, the furnace arrived and shrine in the you and chocolate. and i command germany for its leading role. germ, there is among the our laws providing in most military financial, admitted filed a few crammed money, military recruitment provided by germany, protect ukrainian homes. schools and hospitals from russian. miss attacks was issued keep german arm deliver is saved,

lives. our nato allies are determined to sustain our support for that ukraine pervades as the sovereign independent states, hunger, small family. we know that our support for ukraine comes at the cost of rising further on energy bills. me and i'm seeing for many important things, but we pay the price in money while they're crying and say, hey, in life, signed up here immediately. and if putin wins that live in, baldwin or for italian leaders to use force again, which shield their goals. and that would make the world more dangerous, and also more vulnerable. so naples pause is to support ukraine and prevent the escalation of the war. the yonder ukraine is clean. we do this by sending clear message to moscow that will defend every alloy. that is why we have

stepped up. our presence in the eastern auto d alarms in germany is leading naples berkeley group in lithuania, providing air defenses, inter walker and the jets patrol. our scribes from the baltic to the black seemed on dental. at this defining moment for european secure advantage to germany's leadership is crucial. hi, there would love to watch your speech the bundle start in february was historically talking. it was truly a turning point with the site and then the german has stepped up like never before . 10 in support of ukraine on in the fence of your natal alice. he'd been his me. he did. i strongly welcome your government's special 100000000000 euro funds to invest in our shared security. i think providing funding for 5th generation aircraft, new helicopters, new ships,

and many other critical capabilities generates on the bike. as they mentioned, we also discussed the protection of under c infrastructure, pipelines, and cables, and the see that are archers for our economy, city near transporting energy and transporting vapor. the reason sub reports of the north dream pipelines passed reminded us all of the vulnerability these infrastructure, if theater in response to nathan has doubled the number of ships patrolling the north and the baltic seats and step of sharing of intelligence behind. but we need to do more stacked to help protect these viking infrastructure as families. and so i welcome the german, a, which initiative to establish and late to undersea infrastructure center, our vulnerabilities and help deter undercover from any disruptive actions against

allied under see infrastructure chances holds their love. thank you. once again, for your strong support and for your commitment to our lines. thank you so much. hey, it's about enough hoggard tom. tim are patriots and they were in the house with patriot system for the secretary general 1st lady, i'm argument yet. does she answer analog with ever said that the other patriots, as individual natal members, dates can decide themselves word. they're patriot assistant, are to late that the early federal government has argued that it had should be actually to be coordinated within nato because it was also part of the nato air defense system. therefore, i'd like to ask you exactly how justin was your past statement in a minute. is it okay for nato, for example, that to patron systems on a plane in the ukraine and the federal chancellor,

you said that the offer was made to hold on. but on game, if the united states provide their consent would be the federal government. wouldn't you also build highlights in agreement to place them the system in ukraine? first of all, i would like to commend the germany for offering or to increase of the air defenses or poland. this just shows of the leading role and the many contributions germany is making to the defense of nato alice. so this is her yet another example, a german leadership in our reliance and of your commitment to strength. think they thought the turns on the fence. there's an ongoing dialogue and also a process in poland i think is in early to conclude. and i also think it is important to separate the discussion about those 3 patrons, which are germany has offered to help protect polish as space from the issue

of our own more air defense to ukraine. we all agree on the urgent need to help ukraine, including with air defense systems. germany, hass ordered it delivered. malden an important or critical ed defense systems to ukraine, not pleased with the artist t air defense systems or allies. sir. are prepared to step up and provide even more air defense to ukraine. but i also think it is important to understand that this is not only about delivering new systems, but very much also about ensuring that the systems we have all the delivered can't operate, says a need for ammunition to existing systems. that is a need for a spare parts and maintenance. so i think that we should separate the issue. the 3 are the offer of supporting colon with the paid to batteries, to the overall and,

and much larger issue of ensuring that allies are providing air defense to ukraine . that all that done a lot germany are among or use among those donations. and on this needles to ensure that the systems we have can function with sufficient ammunition of spare parts and maintenance on the under board on power offer to poland continues as stated, we are willing and ready to provide safety and security to poland. and isaac, take our places the patriot system there and as the secretary general said, this is an ongoing debate. and the question has not been fully answered yet. counselor not to can. isaac has certain back had his night long said that secretary general said this morning at the security conference, and he restated it. and also i am always high the, it's your earth systems that are sent to ukraine, needs efficient ammunitions. and in germany right now, we're have an ongoing debate regarding a dearth of munitions. lee,

a federal minister for defense, has written a letter this morning to the finance ministry asking for more funds in order to purchase more ammunitions. the answer has been there is enough money. so what about procurement and ammunitions in germany, expect from germany concerning ammunition from dr. deparga, thank you very much for that question and i got to think be very clear about this. i should just in the last couple of decades, we are going to say, well setting the wrong address orientation on the wrong tracks when it came to accumulate human issues. and now it is really about insuring a steady flow of supply. not just because of the war and ukraine, but also because of the martin needs and we are currently addressing of these 2 on file is heavily wrong developments of last decades. it's obviously not something

that is done within a very short period. it is also about creating a sustainable system where we have sufficient flow of ammunition for our last weapon systems. and i can assure you that our minister is doing everything so that this is successful and it will be successful. ukraine needs more ammunition and that's obvious. and they have stated that many times because this is a brutal war latricia where there's a huge consumption of ammunition. and that's also the reason why allies are providing more ammunition to ukraine. and they have provided a lot and continued to provide a substantial amounts or ammunition to ukraine. their way allies have done this is by or digging into existing stocks. and of course in the long run that kind of continue. so that's the reason why germany and all the allies have also started to engage with the defense industry. to ramp or production of ammunition

are part the to replenish existing. and nathan stocks are to meet the requirements for the turns on the fence of natal territory. but partly also to ensure that we can continue to deliver ammunition to ukraine. so welcome our, their work of germany and the efforts of all the allies to. busy ensure that production of abolition is increased so we can both and showed natal to her that those on the fence and at the same time prides ammunition to, to your credit. that sir nato secretary general against stalsen burger. at the podium with germany, chancellor laughed shows us their meeting today in berlin, olaf shoals opens the press conference are making the point, the nato must not become a party to the conflict to a new cray. that'd be also said that he hoped to welcome a finland and sweden into the nato, into nato, at some stage, and talked about nato,

perhaps coordinating actions on the high on the high seas in order to protect a critical infrastructure from the secretary general. we heard, thanks to he is a german host, also made the point that nato is not a party to the conflict in ukraine, as has been said today by the russian foreign minister. so gay, a lover of thank to germany a for it's playing, it's passed in the f, as i said, that german arms deliveries had saved lives. let's get more on this from our political correspondent, simon young. welcome, simon. what stood out for you at this press conference? well, i think the 2 men were working just to re confirm that germany stands as a solid ally within nato. and that was something that the secretary general

installed and beg, repeated again and again he, he picked up. oh, la schultz, his words from his speech back at the beginning of the war. the german word, citing vendor, a sort of turning point, a real shift and the pocket shift as it were in germany's starts when it comes to defense matters. it's been reticent in recent decades. i think it's fair to say now there's a change. there's a promise of 100000000000 euros to be spent on defense, a particular on updating the german forces equipment. and so one of the questions that said behind this kind of meeting is, you know, how much of that money is there to be spent? felt says we're doing what we can to improve our defense capability and we're going to get there, but it takes a little bit of time. the 1st, the question after the 2 men had finished speaking was about what appears to be an ongoing rub between poland and germany. about these

a patriot defense systems. the secretary general, the peer to swerve the question and left shoulder seem to say, well, this is still an ongoing discussion. perhaps you could just outline for us what the problem is that given that ukraine has said time after time at a time, what we want is more air defense systems. yeah, well, as the secretary general said, it's important to distinguish 2 different things that the nato allies have offered and have been delivering, in fact, that some air defense systems, modern ones to ukraine. and that doesn't seem to be a lot of controversy about that. indeed, a lot of those systems have been very successfully used to shoot down and things like drones that have been launched by the russian side against ukraine. now, more could be done, of course. but on the other hand,

we also have an offer from germany to move some of its patriot ed defense systems, into poland, to give reassurance to the polish side and protect that defense space. and as both leaders may clear, the polish government is still considering that offer hasn't made a decision yet. okay. i will leave it that simon younger. thank you. finance us. i'm a political correspondent here in building. are you watching a d. w. a news live from brother who have a full round of off the day's events at the top of the hour, and

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