oh, ready knows. welcome to take talk with one of our hackers and paralyzing the tire societies. computers then now some are you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can work wilson for, and that's how they can also go terribly. watch it now on youtube. oh, during the 1st 2 years of the pandemic, the w h o estimates that 145000000 people in the world contracted long cove. it this disease encompasses a huge range of symptoms. some that occur during the acute phase of the infection

and persist and others that are completely new and seemingly unrelated. welcome to this week's cobra, 19 special. ah, we started getting here like in many other countries, the potentially severe long term effects of cove. it were often disregarded, but to martha dna is helping to fight that. she's a well known tv presenter in guinea. she developed diabetes following a corona, virus infection, possibly as a secondary disease. her experience with cove it was an especially agonizing one. mm. because if they hadn't these i lupita, i was in hospitality. so taken away every day. it was and i was afraid i said to myself, will it be me tomorrow or not just he thought mother james sutton,

mustard janese guinea. i'm a journalist and t v presenter and i survived coke at 19. good. good. is it all swaddled on the evening of april 30th. 2020. i wasn't feeling very well through. i felt sick and had a fever. so i thought it would be a good idea to go to hospital and she is eugene, this is sam london, mom. i started to lose my breath. look almost they up there. it was so hard to breathe that i can even say my name's ever there won't be my last record. janelle, he repaired yet one of fabian expedia. it was a really difficult experience on the app. then it turned into a trauma because i spent a mom on 3 weeks in hospital, e, place them in. and then jiffy, i did more than 14 covert tests and they were always positive jeffrey because why they came to press you down with because i was in hospital in a gary wasn't getting any better joy. i was tired and couldn't see my family. made bashful but luckily i met

a doctor who was there for me. he. he was very supportive and helped me to get through it. all. he marvel, we had the app. i've seen it yet. don't go home so easy, very hard for them. sample i got through it. thanks to healthy you book would take it. i have a lot of chronic symptom. ha, i think cova gave me diabetes like will within that money, i pay gone she's. and after i recovered from covert, when i had a pulmonary embolism and had to have medical treatment for 6 months, it was a very advanced embolism, which could still be fatal. happy, well, because i've had treatment several times and it came back and whenever you put the mechanical fossil young goes up to suffolk with mcdonald's lead after i'd recovered from covert, my parents didn't want me to talk about it because at the time when people knew you'd had cove it, they'd stigmatize, you should law,

they wouldn't want to come to your house anymore and they keep away from the family . go what could get an appointment. i realized that many canadians don't take it seriously because a day, they think it's a game and it's not real well on girl. she started almost she long. so i broke my silence and wrote about my journey on social media. if i explain what i experienced and hospital to belt awareness in some people began to understand that covert has no bedtime story of it. sitting by this is la donna deborah will be living exists. lots of people get covert and have a story to tell if you're in when you gov it. so will this when you're home, hope it is about memory for me. have also green, but it's also a very good one. hook up because cove had made me question many things honk issues not to leave until tomorrow. what can be done today? because i realized that life is hanging by a very thin threat call. see mm . mm. oh, long hold. it doesn't only affect those who were hospitalized,

but kowana virus. it can also result from mild cases. there are hundreds of symptoms associated with the condition which can hamper its understanding. but therapies are now being sought everywhere. and one hospital center in berlin is using simulations and virtual reality to try and give an insight into the experience of long covert on a frosty autumnal morning i travelled to, he's been in with a camera team to the house, to zoom center, which is part of the copy hospital between 5 and 10 percent of patients with cove at 19 will go on to develop long cove it fatigue is one of the main symptoms. one paper estimates 46 percent of people with the condition will suffer exhaustion. i'm in front of one of their exhibits here, which is a weighted vest which together with these weighted arm bands and leg bands weighs

about 20 kilos. now the idea with this is tara, emulate, the feeling that people with long cov, it have a very sort of large pressure on the chest and shortness of breath. i had one account of a man who couldn't read his children at bedtime story because he described his son back on his chest. i try the leg and arm white sun along with the suit to see what it's like. i try walking up the stairs. i already felt really quite out of breath, just walking up those stairs and i am conscious that my heart is beating quite a lot harder than usual. i feel quite sick to be honest, as well, with the, with the effort of the weights and my body is also in a bit of pain from sort of supporting the weight people with long covey to advise, to keep moving. if they can, to help with their rehabilitation, the center uses virtual reality to encourage that with activities like football,

archery, or boxing. the hope is that by increasing their strength, long cobit patients can one day get back to their lives. what i really taken from this exhibition is not only how all consuming an intense, having long covey could be, but also how difficult it could be to function in everyday life. although around $200.00 symptoms associated with long covered. so any treatment would be highly individual and how it was tailored. still not very much about it is known medically, but the center told me what it does do is point people in the right direction of medical care and also towards support groups that can help them cope our next report is about the development of useful treatment options for long covered various promising research projects are underway in spain, in and around barcelona. but with such a wide ranging symptoms, this can be a particular challenge. sh. will

single you have well i have mental folk editors, joint pain, all over notice active migraine attack, recurring conjunct. vital dry eyes, the recording echo 54 year old sylvia. still there is one of the more than 1300000 people currently suffering from long coded and spain. her case is somewhat extraordinary. she contract and coven for the 6th time in august 2022. she's only been able to have one vaccination against a virus big room as 18 months. i wasn't able to do my normal job, nor have much contact with people just but so now solar has now put her hope and clinical trials being carried out and several centers in and around. lona, as i say, you know, we collected a platform for, for every single patient was hospitalized in which was rossa, because of called eat. and rickland shall surgery,

not very hard work on they are collecting clinical data or for these patients. this is why to from police so use for, for complete research. geneticists, dr. maria, hey, susan runs, leads the research program at the move to taught after the university hospital sits in the shadows of barcelona in the city of teresa. historically, one of the main drivers of the regions textile industry today, one of the homes in spain for research into long cove, it and half that will fit the hero having 200 patients with long term copays, their biological samples, the clinical samples. and obviously we will look into, they need to respond, but also in genes associated with the specific pathologies they are, they are developing. now we know that people with long trying to compete all 4 times more likely to have carven puppies or diabetes for respiratory

diseases than the general population, or people who have had called these hungry colbert. so they are not the song, a beach, and the call today shows all genetic predisposition that makes them more sick, sceptical. while the hospital has the expertise, it likes the funding to do all the research in its own laboratory. most of the research wark, the st. sue height, 12 foot facilities to do it. the last just came to the huge costs. funding lawn cove at research is a battle for darby down now. i had the researcher at the hospital. we have no financial support for the administration. therefore, that thinks things stood the initiative of several groups of invitation that have their own financial funding. and we can maybe use some part of his findings to cover it that too long

covered. but that's not due to the support of their shells. national health system or the administration in you know, little peach. here people with long coven, who lost their sense of taste and smell, are treated as pine at both. i said, we had a love doctor in yes. you know, the mentee isn't ear and throat specialist. so you give you the test, being honest, there is no medical treatment that the patient could have to get this mail back. the only thing that is known that could have the patient is that this mediterranean, the most common losses of smell, or of people's natural body odor and food thing. but the concern for doctors is the impact this has on a patient's mental health or money or affected and the socio but the

majority of space and because they've got his man, they don't have the best. ah, they don't proceed, flavors or foot. so they struggle, we now we trained order, well the restaurant side of them don't want to cab 6 and relations because sometimes they're or they don't, don't smell their, their body smell or feel. it's like an unpleasant they, they're like, 1st smart, more social, if this is their 1st parties have start to recover. they are what if they continue with this and then get depressions and mental illness them and then hung around patient that say that if he wants to, ah, to give him said yes, because was very but for sylvia. so now the worry is that her life may never go back to normal and she will forever lose her job working as

a public administrator. she also fears that research programs may end due to a lack of funding. with each passing day, she hopes were a breakthrough, you know, or they ha, and go try to when you get back to feeling well again, where you can idea to be able to laugh again every day on guy has delayed to get up every day with a desire to read the desire to work and to do all these things that i did before. but i need to have a future full of hype in the primary care system and in the research hospitals. i can't do any more than to have faith in them that they will find answers. you're in a group of young. ah, most researchers see long coded as an umbrella term for the many different causes and manifestations of the disease says neuro scientists, martin quarter. his latest book aims to summarize, the current state of research described, mar, gordon. you're mr. corda. your book says the majority of people am to 6 to you.

develop a long covert. i women for why is that all and nicked us within the glass incidence? oh, we saw the same incidents with auto immune diseases by 2 thirds of those affected our women. and we suspect that's down to the immune system, which differs between men and women. window shaw women's immune systems deliver a quicker and stronger response that's advantageous when it comes to infectious diseases on in, including coven 19, which causes an acute infection of sars, covey to the women are less likely to die than men because the immune response is faster and i was, but that comes at a cost hoyt dep highest of women's bodies also produce what are known as auto antibodies and a faster rate. this is the one under cultural entre, circulate in the blood and attack the body's own cells and or for me at all piggly . and that can lead to an auto immune response layer tune fuel. and so women are more susceptible to these men on their farthest is the deal is the certain variance

more likely to cause long covert, long covert. so life it is this he is in current, this is but as far as we can tell, it's less common with omicron compared to the previous variant. omicron is currently the dominant strain with all its sub variance, if, but it doesn't make a big difference. it isn't, we're talking about 10 percent for delta and may be 6 to 7 percent for alma, crowns and inputs. and for life. also difficult was asked by that because the vaccination status has changed a lot more people and vaccinated men. and we know that been vaccinated, reduce the risk of long coven, one long corbett to swear con. it doesn't revenge long cove. it, which isn't shame, but it does reduce the risk of the info. anita was we would see it as the depending on which study louisiana. it's between a 15 and 50 percent reduction. so by as much as half or at least 15 percent as witnesses and from between put send labeled here. that's why it's a difficult to assess in terms of long cove. it because the situation has changed

so much yet for andrew outside the ortho center. how big is the problem and how many people who get covered i getting long covered the common wrong covered vision from one sam patella mentioned. you can see it um, wound up in between 5 and 10 percent of people who get infected develop long cove. it regardless of whether they had a mild or a severe case side point will be short. woodard for in 2021. in england, around 1000000 people had long coven, which is a large share of the workforce. and we have to assume that the figure will be similarly high in germany, horse i'm or same it wouldn't. the current state of research to people with long covert have grounds to hope it will pass and which specialists can they turn to for help lenses, even gonzales and uber being in a majority of cases long covert symptoms will have improved if not cleared up altogether within a year, but not all studies reached the same conclusions thing. it depends which symptoms

they focus on. for example, chronic fatigue syndrome when you're always tired, however much you sleep, it appears to be especially persistent and can continue well beyond a year da signed bizarre. those art nicky was i'm when shined off toward the lang hours. i knew other problems such as concentration difficulties and memory lapses as well as shortness of breath, muscle and joint pain. and loss of taste and smell tend to clear up within a year and from it goes, follows couldn't hoffman, does he not bind his yard? has a decent torpedo laws, van an vein which specialist oh, should consult is a very good question. but when you get advice about some therapy, you might want to try, it's worth being cautious, was it all treatments have side effects need? for example, if you get clocked arden is you can take a blood thinner. but there are risks associated with the blood thinners that can be life threatening, and so you need to consult your g p as yeah, some how thoughts o r t fear ones. if nicholas murphy snyder, crewman, the mit monday, the oven was

a high. but kid on the case and get a diagnosis as soon as possible. and then talk to a team of doctors about potential experimental therapies. contact the professor quarter. thank. so, yeah, of mine on you o. 3 year since the pandemic began, and there are still so many unanswered questions. our science reporter derek williams has already answered hundreds of your questions. and this week's comes from dan h. how soon after a cold 19 infection, can i start exercising again? 0, one striking thing that you often hear from people recovering from cove at 19 is that they're surprised how big of an impact it has on their physical activity, even if their symptoms are otherwise really pretty mild. um, for lots of people, even those in good shape, they can take

a while to feel fit again, that's actually common. after many viral infections, there is no one size fits all answer to the question of when you can and should begin exercising again after coven. 19 battle, of course, depend on things like your age and, and your pre existing conditions. and of course, how badly you were hit by the virus. but the standard expert advice is that you should wait at least a week after testing negative. then if your symptoms have largely subsided, you can start with light exercise again. some experts suggest waiting for 10 days and there are some important things to bear in mind when you start. one is that you should definitely take things slow for the 1st couple of weeks

because trying to do too much too quickly, can boomer. and instead of making you feel better, exercising too hard too fast, can cause go bad symptoms like fatigue or, or breathlessness to resurface. initially, the recommendation is to shoot only for about 10 to 15 minutes of, of light activity at a time. no matter how serious an athlete you were before you tested positive, start slow, even if you ran marathons. maybe just start with a stroll around your neighborhood. another important factor that pretty much all the experts agree on is that you need to pay close attention to how you feel while exercising, and only gradually increase the length and the intensity of your workouts. so listen to your body. and if,

if symptoms do reappear while you're exercising, then stop. don't try to push through them as you might have before you were sick. and if recurrent symptoms persist, then you need to stop until you can see a dr. m. if a pandemic has taught us anything, it's that we need to look out for each other. and in that respect, some people have gone above and beyond. our next report is a heart warming tale from kenya. so this is to be my life and is what i used to do and i was, i did dumb, so i now i decided let me do other things because you see lazy, north lake, a stagnant, what a sad moving river. you need to get out of where you are and do something different from your life. the dan, dora dumpsite,

one of the biggest landfills in africa is where taurus i'm all lived after both his parents died in a road accident and he became homeless. my neither would i go to paula for several years he made a living here selling scrap metal he was eventually rescued by a welfare organization that helped him get off the street and go to school. and i school mozilla school. i mean, he took a course in mass communication when we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna buy them if we did it. after passing miscommunication. i used that communication skills to come up with that with, with a facebook or giving a give buck facebook page whereby i started collecting, collecting clothes, telling my friends and telling my neighbors if they can give me that close that they of outgrown. so basically let on,

danny started just with a clothing idea tourism old founded the organisation from garden tani. in 2015, the initiative distributed new and secondhand clothes, to families and street children. it's one way of assuring their dignity and, and the reason why i said to dom, let them to any either the less that a lived push to me to give back to the committee. during the cove at 19 pandemic, the organization was a lifeline for families living on the streets property or more than his team visited nairobi, slums, distributing barza soap and informing the residence hall about an important of washing hands and wearing masks. the organization

also donated over 6000 sanitary towels and distributed food to some 4500 families. lag on a pool deck, a good life was hard back than hulu. de la rocha. a luck of candle was suffering because of cave at 19 lament, but we got help food and so for washing our hands, millerio area knocking now that lucy, zach was yet one is to provide us with masks because we didn't have the money to buy that with that and is yet thank you. hello question. us gun on the arm. tawny gave out food and taught the children about cove. it went up in a defra about the importance of washing hands and using disinfectant and the various other things i well now i'm gonna most people appreciated that and fall the actually so there were no corona virus cases in this area so to speak. while, while, while, while you pick up the new danger,

that if you go and collect anything, you may me, you might go and collect lake mark, which contained a flight us. and you can also get that lead us. of course veda, thought that we read, we took that time to tell them that they should not be going collecting things and you know, through collecting through the coverages when they get money. so fitting was that a challenge for them. and mostly the ones who have children in the streets. so we came up with this lunch in town and program whereby we couldn't group and come with food and supplies. a former street kid torres m all is now 29 and married with 3 children. he's received various awards for his exemplary volunteer work during the pandemic life. his

service to the community is highly valued in nairobi and throughout kenya. oh, in this episode we've learned all about the many aspects of long cove it and caught up with the latest research me next week will be in south africa, where in just one year, scientists developed an m. r in a vaccine against colbert 19th. see you next time and take care. ah ah, with

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