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oh, ready knows? come to take, talk with him about hackers, paralyzing the tire societies. computers that are some are you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can for but how they can also go terribly. watch it now on you to not a mere potent is known to admire strength in the people he deals with. so presumably looking vulnerable is not something he's very fond of. but the recent attacks on 3 russian air fields have exposed significant weaknesses and rushes capability to defend itself. the kremlin calls the strikes,
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terror attacks and blames keith. and while putin looks for a solution to yet another problem, and the war he chose at once again becomes obvious, that things for him are not going according to plan. if there even is one article for lucian, berlin, and this is the day, ah, this a little explanation in the sense that molly's going for under every capability to heat daunted several hundreds of kilometer read. the results can be seen an open sources. we see satellite images and photos that the russians themselves are posting, leak wiper spectacular trailer portable rushes out of the drums to think significantly strengthening ukraine's defense potential is the only way to establish long term peace and stability in europe. oh, also on the day
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a look at like b as controversial decision to take rush as last remaining independent tv channel off air was rein tv. really a threat to national security guard. dorsey b rain has dealt with many attempts to shut down the channel. a story that began as a tragedy has turned into a farce. what's happening now was a farce. oh, with our to night and rush hour report suggests, ukraine could be stepping up its cross border attacks against strategic targets. the strike seemed to have caused major unease and the kremlin leading vladimir putin to gather his security council today to discuss domestic security. and the latest incident, the governor of russia's course region says a drone attacked an air field setting an oil storage tank on fire. chorus glides on the border with ukraine. but the attack comes a day after multiple explosions at a military base is in their re ours on region and at the angles air base much
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deeper inside russian territory. moscow blamed you were ukrainian drones for those last calling them acts of terrorism. keith has not claimed responsibility. let's unpack all of this and bring and frank lead, which he is a lawyer and military analyst. he's also a former officer with a british army. he's served in the balkans, iraq and afghanistan. mr. lead, which welcome back to the day ukraine has him claim responsibility, but a things as they stand, how big of a blow are these attacks to moscow? well, nicole, this is a colossal military failure. it's not as if these airport, so these are bases were, were minor inst installations. they were 2 of the major basis of the russian ben space schools, particularly young girls, where most of it's so called strategic bama forces base. and what that says to the russian people is if you can't to friend those from external ukrainian attack,
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what can you different? so how worried as a kremlin about this? well, the message has always or has since february been percolating through the russian people, it can't fail to do so. i mean, their own military commentators are full of comments about the phases of russian forces in ukraine. so the idea already that russian forces aren't quite what they were cooked up to be before the was already percolating through. but that's always been across the board, hasn't it? it hasn't yet crossed over into russia in any significant way. yes, there was some explosions. there was some accidents earlier in the war, belk are out particularly that this is a significant base. and if the russian air force can't defend that, it's going to have problems defending other installations. and that message is spreading. how competent are armed forces? are we doing the right thing? it seems like this came as a surprise, right?
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that it caught russia off guard. how can something like that happen? well it was all day shes ukrainians are have demonstrated to the rest of the world that they are an audacious and swashbuckling armed forces. it can happen because they have been preparing over the last 10 months or so to conduct the strikes. they've been reaching their forces and re engineering their weaponry. and now we're beginning to see the results of that. what kind of drown win enable ukraine to strike, so deeply into russian territory. the defense ministry in moscow says yesterday strength, at least were carried out by soviet meet drones. that's probably right. we don't really know what did it, but the best guess is that it's so a to pull off one for one drone. now these are set 90. this makes it worse really than 19 seventies technology. you can use of re engineer at the, at the, the, the electronics and targeting systems. but essentially, this is an old crew,
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old fashioned cruise missile russia that you kind of have re engineered as far as we know not probable as well. that special forces were involved in guiding these into their targets. and that in itself of course, is another word for the russians. how could this have been allowed to happen? but we know that you pregnancy developing cruise missile capabilities, and that's essentially what these are. and this has exposed significant vulnerabilities and rush s ability to defend itself. but how can these kinds of attacks impact russia capabilities of striking ukraine because these are strategic targets? right, it's the strategic nature. nicole, that it's important here that the message it gives the why to population that actual damage done to aircraft was quite limited. there were 2 or 3. yes. expensive yes, up to data craft damage. i don't think any were destroyed, but they're not going to stop the attacks themselves. now the damage is not tactical, which is weaponry and, and,
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and weapons. but it's not political level that the messages with center. and that's why this was a strategic strike at the war is increasingly unpopular among the rush and public to rate you talked about the pundents are increasingly critical for the fact that attacks are now happening closer to home. do you think that will lead to more anti war sentiment or it could it have the opposite effect? it depends really what, how do you want to want to go on with this? i don't think frankly that they got the capability to conduct same kind of strikes that the russians have been conducting against ukraine on critical civilian infrastructure. but the point is not what they have thought they might have. and what russian people will start to fear. and they may start to fear that the ukrainians might have the capability of dishing out the same kind of treatment that they've been dishing out to the ukrainians quite liberally over the last 4 months. and it is right in the population. and it's not fear that it's not fear that
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becomes political, and it's not fear that person himself will be afraid of. where do you see this going to think? we'll see this kind of attack more frequently now with a symbolic gesture to call in a way to show russia, you know, we can harm you. is this going to be part of the daily warfare now? no, i don't think so. nicole and i'll tell you why. i think the americans would, would, would rain you credit back on. this is a demonstration of capability. what we can do if we want to, i think nobody knows. but i would suspect particularly given remarks today by century blinking on some reports that came out in america about the restrictions. the americans are placing on weaponry that's going to ukraine. i think the americans will be having a talk now with the credit. let's not push this, you've shown what you can do. let's rein back. but of course is blinking said today it's up to the ukrainians. what they do in the american south. once
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a limited influence, but or influence will go so far, but they wouldn't want to jeopardize international support what they military analyst frank legislation. thank you so much for your time. thanks michael. o. hungary has vetoed a proposed 18000000000 euro financial aid package from the e u to ukraine, leaving the remaining 26 member nation scrambling to find ways to keep the cash flowing to keep many of them believe maker or brands. government is refusing to cooperate over ukraine. because brussels is withholding billions of euro's waiting for budapest to implement rule of law reforms. the european commission has called for unity and speed. at both emer hungry and its neighbor, serbia have been ambivalent in their stance over russia and moscow's war on ukraine . speaking at a meeting between you, leaders and nations in the western balkans, hoping to join the walk, the president of kosovo than men's,
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her words. when it came to belgrade stance on one side, you have contacted the alliance to be repeated union. and on the other side, hard crunched, fully aligned with they should not be treated the same whether you stand with ukraine today or you spent with russia should the matter whether you have a golf, that sanctions against russia or not should matter. and these are signals which they used and then very, very clearly to all of the country western organs. because standing of the right side of your street today is the least that should be expected of us. anastasio, fedex is an assistant professor of finance and high school of business at the university of california berkeley. she's also a founding member of the pressure group economist for ukraine. miss betty, welcome, hungry, vetoing aid for ukraine. how much does that weaken the u stands because of the russia? of course, hunter's actions are both now and throughout. the last 9 months have been problematic and hungry has not supported
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a to you grin the same way as it's on other you partners. and what we're seeing is that hunger is actually using an, as a lever. i'm to kind of extract what it wants from the you, of course, on the other hand. and it's also a lever that other members of the you have to get hungry to conform to what the broader union wants to do. said goes both ways and the aid and that hungary need. some of the e u. m is something that both hungary is demanding and kind of use withholding 8 to ukraine as a way to get what they want. but it's also something on which hungry is ultimately dependent. i'm so it is a lever that allows to other european states. i'm to usually get hungary to go. so what does this mean for the 2016 countries that want to see more money flowing to cave? did they just have to sit it out will or bond eventually come around? now i don't think we have the luxury of sitting out anything when it comes to a to ukraine. right now the situation is very urgent. so we definitely do need our
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speed in implementing any of these 8 packages. and so what we're seeing instead is that the european commission is considering how else i can to deliver that it ultimately, other member states are going to be able to get money to ukraine if they want to get money to ukraine. what do they do? so in a consolidated matter with each other, using other mechanisms including subsets of states are pulling together to enhance corporation, or if they do it individually and unlikely. but at the end of the day they have these options. and so they can get that money to ukraine and at the end of the day, if they want to, they can also reduce then the budget of the broader you and, and kind of do things more independently. that is actually going to be harmful for hungry. hungary is among the most dependent on you budget. so to kind of we can the overall you budget relative to individual countries by just is not going to be hungry, expressed interest. and so it is feasible that hungry will understand this and will
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reverse this decision that it's showing right now. but even if it doesn't to other member states, definitely have ways to not reliant hungry to do something like deliver 8. let's talk about a serbia. how can they even increase pressure on membership candidates to clearly side with ukraine? yeah, i think watching kind of what, what goes on with hunger is for is perhaps a way to do that. i'm still going to the benefits and hungry is drawing from you a membership, as well as the expectations that that sets on hungary to kind of to behave both and with respect to things like joined initiatives and getting into ukraine. but also including domestic things like corruption and blah, blah. i think other kind of hopeful members are observing that and that definitely gives them an indication of both expectations as well as the benefits ultimately yesterday that is all price caps kicked in. how effective do you think and can they
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be limiting revenue? russia can use to finance the war. so yes, the question can be something to start by answering in general terms. i think a general price caps can be very effective for 2 reasons. first, price caps, or a mechanism to reduce revenues to russia without abruptly reducing supply to the market. so unlike an outright embargo price cast are still allowing that wealth to flow, but are reducing the amount of money that is paid to russia for that. as long as they're above the production costs, there is an economic incentive for russia to continue producing rather than shutting down and harming, than or to producing infrastructure as a result. and the 2nd reason is that it broadens the set of countries that are cooperating. so in terms of the embargo that's going to be used as an embargo, that's a certain set of countries that are not buying brushes with a price gap or actually pulling in on their potential partners in this endeavor.
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the countries that are relying shipping companies and insurance companies and that are going to conform with the price gap as it was sold to kind of a broader set of countries that are effectively participating in the sanctioning that in general, if we talk about specifics than that of course depends on the level of the price gap and how much that actually is going to reduce rushes right. what else needs to be done in the way of international sanctions to get leverage over the kremlin? i didn't want to ask that we don't have much time now. yeah. so of course with the sanctions that are all in place, there's always room for improvements. we just talked about price caps. it's a great start to have a price gap at $60.00. it's not going to do that much so we definitely hopefully we'll be working towards lowering that limit in the future. i'm our group of experts recommend somewhere around $35.00, but more broadly, there's still a lot of leverage. dad to your western countries have was of use russian economy
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that was still haven't really exploited. i think the main area going forward is going to be technology sanctions. i'm so western technology still permeates russian society. we see these pictures of liberal with his i phone, and that's, that's had single case. but in, in reality, russia is using western phones, western software, all of that to both and do the military actions as well as to prop up the economy. so i'm limiting that limiting the western technology will have a big impact on the russian economy in general. anesthetic of u. c. berkeley. thank you so much for it. i thank you for latvia has revoked the broadcasting license for the exalt independent russian television channel, tv, rain, lobbying authorities, said the decision was made after the broadcasts are violated, rules and was deemed a threat to national security among the alleged violations showing the crimean peninsula as part of russia and referring to the russian military as, quote,
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our army tv reign relocated to lobby after it was shut down in russia over its critical war coverage. in a statement on twitter tv. rain said, we will not broadcast on cable or satellite there, but will continue to do so on youtube. we consider all accusations against us to be unfair and absurd, and will go on doing our job. ante de leon maria cut how much has been falling the story very closely from our studio in the latvian capital riga. maria tells more about the allegations against heavy rain. well, as he said before, i left and government considers doors to as a threat to national security and public order. that's how they framed it. and in total latin assorted test find those 3 times according to lots in law. if a media that receives 3 warnings, it's license can be canceled as it was the case with dos. so the 1st warning was
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because of the absence of the language track below in the latin language. but it was not a big issue. i would say. another big, another issue that really mattered most of was the fact that on the program they showed, as you mentioned, a map of russia including occupied crimea, which very few think that it was deliberate. and those has stated before that kleinie is actually a part of the ukraine and not russia. another one was for calling the russian army, our army, which is unacceptable for last, 2nd, after obtaining a license to this latin license. traditionally, those became a lots and lots and channel that has to respond to lots and routes. and lastly, finally the, the 3rd warning was because the journalists asked us to send
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e mails and kind of tell the stories of the mobilized russians and the awful conditions that they live in. as he sat in on air, it would help them somehow that the tv rain calls his allegations absurd. but how do they explain these incidents? well, a 1st aid most besides that from the beginning of the russian invasion of ukraine. those stated multiple times that was against the war, and that's, that's, that's the reason why they left russia ah, a. so because they couldn't engage in their normal journalists anymore, because the russian government introduced a fake law law legislation that essentially prohibited any other narrative, rather than crumbling one well off of the statements about the help of russian
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soldiers. it, they deleted the, the editor and editor in chief, deleted the extra from the program after a few hours and immediately 5 the journalist. he should be sad that stories about the mobilization war crucial for doest, since they talk about the brutality of the russian army. this is how they engage with their audience. that is still inside russia. and the yes that said that they found that narrative that is appealing to russian audience and they were using it to show how bad russian army is. laquia is a former soviet republic and shares of border with russia. so there is understandably a lot of nervousness since russia and baby crane, but did tv rain really pose a danger to lot being national security well,
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alas, isn't an independent european country and they can surely decide their security policies themselves. but many lawson political analysts told me that the reason might be that a lot in government fears that those could in future interfere in that and politics . and just to remind to you shortly after doors to arrived in latvia, there was a huge scandal after an interview with them mayor for capital city riga. mister stuck his. during the interview, a journalist off journalist asked him about the demolition of this of monuments. and in many thought that these questions for inappropriate during the time when ukrainians are dying on the battlefield. and the fate of the soviet monuments are not relevant at this moment. and that's how it all started with their problems. many people in latvia and beyond have voice their support for tv rain. how
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important was the channel for, for those following rushes invasion of ukraine in russian from inside russia, maybe even. but also those who have since led the country it's one of the most powerful media out that today that has an influence on the russian public inside russia, which is very important. it provided a platform for ukraine and officials as well that could communicate directly with the russian audience. and they told the stories about a new emerge in russia, which has been changing dramatically over the past few months. a well, it was a saw, so i was trying to think formation rushes for some russians who were maybe support for the war, but started to question it as it continued further. the valley is maria,
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cut them on, say, in reagan, thank you. ah, china appears to we eating, it's often honor as covert locked downs and regulations. citizens have been subjected to leadership, doing things 0 coven goal. for nearly 3 years, she had maintained that policy and part to solidify as political power. people and china have been heavily tracked with apps, determining where they can go and what they can do, stretching many people to their limits ah, to being consigned to their homes to 7 days straight. the desperation became too great to bear. in this heroine video, shanghai residents, a heard screaming from windows during his snap lockdown in april, goading out for a little even to buy food. not an option.
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since the start of the pandemic, the government and beijing has enforced snap blocked downs and mass testing with a message that the virus is too dangerous to act. otherwise, that message was received. the fear of the virus has deep roots in china play degas. what if the wider have found more decent later that may have some effect on the human body seems but 3 years of bowing to the government, 0 cove, its strategy have left people exhausted. and when a deadly fire in an apartment building was selling to anti cove, it measures fear of the virus turned to fury. within days, protesters took to the streets of cities across china. some of them openly calling on the government to resign.
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oh, unprecedented scenes and she didn't pings china and they were followed by actual change for the people. as of this week, people in beijing no longer need a negative test result into supermarkets and officers and commuters, and major cities. and now using public transport without testing, the government has been keen to stress it simply optimizing existing policies. if use 3 and we have been a just doing what and improving our coven 19 protocols in light of a development of a situation shooter june. gotcha. you know, in the capital and elsewhere, citizens have been enjoying the new freedoms and some expressed hope that stringent locked downs are a thing of the past. but with infection numbers that record highs and china officially still pursuing a 0 cove, its strategy. that freedom could be temporary. the current challenge for china's
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leadership is to convey a complicated message that it's listening to the grievances of the people, but has the authority to lock them down where and when they deem necessary. that's all for today, but if you can't get enough of us to make sure to follow our team on twitter at w news on myself at nicole underscore for, for now though, from all of us on the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day with ah, with
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ah ah, available you news lying from berlin, russia blaine's ukraine for another drone attack this time on an air field near the border and oil storage facility, at course airport is left in flames one day after 2 air bases deeper insight, russia were apparently targeted by drones were hear more about the cross border escalation.

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