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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  December 13, 2022 1:30pm-2:01pm CET

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ah, reporter tracks down the arctics. major players with lucy rouse, begins of dangerous game. people overseas that yeah, we are here. we're patrolling area now, the cords are being re shuffled. who has the best handed? russia is a quite active economic in the arctic. if you see something that looked like james bond, it has to do with the military. yes, i do think it starts december 23rd on d w. when current medical science has run out of options and doctors don't know where to turn, artificial intelligence might be able to help, particularly when it comes to extreme cases. it gives me hope
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medic. so getting more and more assistance from computer technology these days. we're not talking about any kind of super palace but valuable tools. we wanted and own us. we don't want to get rid of specialist eye. doctor is one. we want to empower them. we want to give them better equipment and make them better ophthalmologist, who can treat patients more effectively. they say artificial intelligence as a big opportunity. one that can take medicine into completely new dimensions. but some fear i, i, i, the collapse of firstly i can completely understand that i, i, applications can make people wary. so what does artificial intelligence mean for medicine? how can it help to improve people's lives?
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cornelia nixa hasn't been living in this small apartment in northern berlin for long. the 63 year old had never imagined that she would move home again until fate sent her family's life upside down. her daughter and knits has suffered a stroke shortly after the birth of her 2nd child. since then, she has been unable to move or communicate. the name of her condition is locked in syndrome. it has changed everything. until here you can see how pretty my daughter is, is that she was pregnant. there you can tell her daughter needs round the clock care. her son in law and grand children are on their own. cornelia nits is trying to do what she can to support the young family. it's been 2 years now since that fateful day. she had gone no longer. she suffered brain hemorrhaging hole and
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a stroke of demon else. and the someone from the neighbourhood said that they must have spent about half an hour resuscitating her in the ambulance while canal in it, sir, it's only left with memories. her daughter, a psychology graduate, was a happy, fun, loving person. now her family can only guess what she's feeling the kind she can't heart. if she moves like this, you can tell something isn't right less but you are helpless. so i will, you can't do anything really him can i wish slam several times a week, cornelia. and it's a helps her son in law with the household and with the children. so they at least get a bit of normality. it's an ally, the children are suffering because they are without a mother. the girl is growing up without a mom how the couple had just built their own home. when anna had a stroke, her husband nickel and the keeper of was suddenly left to deal with everything on
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his own or yell koya. alice, everything's open. ah, ah, hello. hi there, i'm here now. it's finished. on the 37 year old i t specialist often works from home off to his wife stroke. he tried to care for her time, but it was too much for him in the children now days and a need so lives in a care hun, her condition. and then the separation from her has placed a great strain on them. ccr owns as the 1st year was very difficult. m m. in the meantime, we've come to terms with it to some extent and that i think it must number 4 and we've got a routine set now for a city to we visit her once or twice a week together on as i mild ward it's, i my local but in the care home to communication remains. the biggest problem
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here on live is it it on, on wednesday in the vase and she was quite at 1st, but then she started crying. i think she still has versus pain. she was all told on her family and nursing care personnel can only guess how and, and it's is feeling recognizing the needs of locked in syndrome sufferers and looking after them. 247 is a strenuous business of facility medea. and with you, i've tried to work out a cold with her lung as blends in that a slow blank stands for yes, and to blank for no, as least as from when you come, you can't call that proper communication is my, my biggest wish would be that this were somehow possible again, live leash gal. the family's hopes resting on research, being carried out at berlin, shower at a hospital. nicholas kiefer of contacted scientist there a few weeks ago, colorado than the michigan of to see different i came across
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a video by the professor fuzz and that i think it was a tax talk where he showed what progress was being made in the treatment of stroke patients in the to golf, like my biggest goal would be re establishing some form of communication. the student can then communicate skills vague. ah, the death of the income making this drain come true, is what professor saw jasa could are hopes to achieve with his research. the neurotechnology specialist is working on solutions that could help patients like an init said to communicate again using artificial intelligence and the communication between brain and computer. to put it simply the human thinks and the computer acts . ah, i feel if it's in the world, it's my goal to improve conditions. so as many people as possible can benefit from this technology and see the quality of life improve. and i won't let the set back slow me down of an upcoming neurotechnology,
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which connects our nervous system with computers. ames to help people like, and it's a have a new life at berlin, charity hospital. they have already been successful tests with patients who are partly paralyzed. ah, guido shultz, i used to work as a painter. 2 years ago he was diagnosed with a brain tumor during an operation, a blood vessel burst in his brain. since then, he's been paralyzed on his left side. as of the 20 honey, i can't actively open or closed my hand thick. so good on this. i also can't even do it in my thoughts the sin. oh, i'd advise awesome. when we are healthy, we don't give it a 2nd thought, and you don't mean we just make a movement. and now i really have to try to do something, and it's not easy. and scully's all to day, guido should say, is testing whether he might be able to use his hand better by using
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a so called hand exoskeleton. the wearable technology is controlled by his thoughts . yuki does down the sierra desk, we're doing this so we can reorganize the brain. and this reorganization should have a favourable effect on restoring function if he darted over from till he, oh god, he's reorganized. it sounds as if everything here is jumbled up and we'll have to be sorted again, was it in the or not? and the idea is that uninjured parts of the brain will take over the functions of the affected areas together with the exoskeleton. guido is given a cap that can read his electrical brain signals. when the patient thinks about moving his hand, the computer recognizes that impulse and saves it, comparing it with the signals that his brain emits when he's not actively thinking . the computer is only able to learn because of the information that was taught to
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it by human programmers. they have fit it with algorithms and commands that help it increasingly better understand when guido short so wants to move his hand. like right now, the program understands what to do so it's the bottle is now bernoulli in my hand. with a good come on the i to the lowest. he has a healthy person. you can't imagine it, but it's crazy. you want to close your hand and it just happens us a bit spooky. that is, so this is mike, something from science fiction science fiction. the prototype is still being tested machine that can read your thoughts. that sounds frightening and is the source of much public debate. many people are critical of artificial intelligence. these are fundamental against me. in my opinion,
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this form of intelligence cannot be compared with human intelligence. we're talking about computers that have been programmed to follow certain rules. if we raise awareness about how these systems actually function, it will become clear to everyone that they are not intelligent at all. they don't possess intelligence in the way we humans do an inter ligans. i'm the dimension professor circuit. i would like his research to help people in extremely difficult situations, such as an a nits are trapped in her own body, or guido shelter, who is paralyzed on one side. as a, as soon as nearly tuesdays or the exoskeleton has stimulated my hand mill, so that gives me hope that it might improve little force. i can imagine that if you train it over a longer period of time that it will return to life annoyingly so that's what we hope for right, that it will get back to normal. we're with virtually death. sh stop signal
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middle lou here on the outskirts of the austrian capital is where oscar slammer landlady with his wife. hi de marie, the retiree suffers from age related macular degeneration, or am date of it can lead to with severe loss of vision. as you got my, by the way, sort of, i did also resna finished fluid is collecting in his eyes and is slowly destroying his eye sight. now, does it answer the worst case scenario? doesn't bear thinking about our sale of agony from them? it would mean that i would have to fundamentally change my life. i recently am done completely. stevenson. ah, osgood shamela, has worn glasses since he was
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a child. but one day, all of a sudden his vision started to deteriorate. and 3 on 3 years ago, i really started to notice that my eyesight was failing office. he did an excellent grade test that isn't this man. this test involves taking a piece of paper with a grid them and ok so and covering one eye at a time on to the you look at it and see whether all the mines are running parallel ups or whether they look wavy. ah, this isn't, does it say a wavy? it's a clear sign that something is wrong with the problem is that if it isn't treated quickly, it can lead to a loss of vision and that is awful, not the upper sixty's there. what's awful about the disease is that many patients suffer an extreme loss of vision. even if they do get treatment. osgood sama hopes to avoid that by going for regular checkups at vienna general hospital.
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ah, and patients like oscar sam allowed regularly get a drug injected directly into their eyes, but it's unpleasant and doesn't work well for every one. time. thus saith imprint that was good. how many injections as the patient already had, hutton, that he's already had 12, children who are using magnification, the doctor can get only a rough idea of any changes to the retina. but it's hard to tell how far the disease has progressed from these white areas. which makes treatment difficult, and it's hard to know what dosage would be required when which doesn't fit in every one to carry out as many of these injections as necessary. but as few as possible, each injection into the i hurts and carries the risk of infection to come in. the
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medication is also expensive from the sick fits in. it contains small specially produced quantities of anti bodies. and patients get these injections for the rest of their life table. it's important that we do that as economically as possible or smart. it often costs a $1000.00 euros per injection. that's why the doctors in vienna want to take a closer look at. osgood slammed his eyes. an imaging procedure is used to give a cross section view of the eye and retina. it let's, the doctor's better assess the extent of the disease. gosti had a rental is raised there. he's in it's a retina, is very sensitive. it consists purely of nerve cells which should not be interfered with and isn't far in this case, fluid is gathering under the retina, which is lifting it up a paper. but the procedure doesn't reveal exactly how much fluid has gathered there . so professor schmidt effort decided to design
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a program that can do just that it was fed with the data of many other patients with the same condition. and it can tell exactly how much fluid pools under the retina in blue here. the program allows osgood slamming his treatment to be talent . that this is gung, knowing how this treatment works has given me a whole different perspective on things. personally, i feel much more reassured, gave miss finish. so could i get her plan to take a seat? hoards a messenger from city we've measured 45 nanometers us is that's roughly what it was last time, so we won't have to treat you today. the size here, mr. ben, this is brandon. hey, thank you. thanks for the informational. this is lindsey, it's good to know these possibilities are now available is included in india. perfect article was central comped. it's a big vision for the future. the autism on this on this i exam only takes fractions
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of a 2nd talk time with our didn't. it's not invasive, is reasonably priced and can be performed anywhere and assessed with the help of artificial intelligence again. so i was given it to me and it can replace many other invasive procedures with women as a person come i, i can potentially make diagnostic detective work easier. keep medical costs down and most importantly, reduce human suffering in berlin and an it's a has come to spend 2 hours at home with her family. professors hillcrest team has come to try out a new communication system with them. title
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i buy stock men own dinosaurs. i mean, since his stroke and, and it's a has been suffering from blocked in syndrome. she can't move her body. but she is fully conscious and can hear everything yet. she cannot communicate with the doctor wants to change that with the help of a i must via ice. the mission is what we would like to achieve is to create an interface which is based on bodily signals that are very easy to control systems. and when the aim is that and in it, so be able to learn how to communicate using eye movements that the young woman's condition is different day to day. sometimes she's just not up to it going on like that. uh huh. and as anna are you in pain again? so i said, oh, i don't know whether to touch her or not. you who's my hazy while, she's crying,
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maybe she's in pain, but we don't really know. let madison our business at it quickly becomes apparent that and in it's a won't managed to take part in the test to day. but the family to needs to learn. the system said that they will be able to work with anna independently. it's the 1st step on a long journey. i say it's using this where they are and what we're seeing now is the simplest form of test with which we can try to restore communication in locked in syndrome with blinking or eye movements only the well, the principle is that the computer learns certain i movements and carries out commands associated with them. for example, turning a light on or off. when comes in love with mom, turns off and then on. it's on. and, but it's not as simple as it looks fine to work it. you have to be able to move
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your eyes both vertically and horizontally. and init sir can only do that now and again. and it takes a lot of effort. but the system nevertheless offers the 1st glimmer of hub to the family. thanks, christine curtis. craig, and i think we'll manage it. let's get in. oh, we'll continue practicing with an kernan. m. m in without us and that, but also we have to take into account that anna's condition also varies widely. rather, it depends on how much concentration she can muster to day her concentration is at its limit. the 2 hour visit is over before and in. it's a can try out the system herself. oh, what oh, on the time for us to go back now. in the next few weeks and months,
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professor zillow could, as team will keep on trying. it's a drawn out process, but every one is hoping that and, and it's and her family will learn to communicate with one another again. in s and university hospital in western germany, lily lawman has come for an important check up 4 weeks ago, her son thomas donated half his liver to his mum saving her life. when out of half a shipment that i was asked and of course i said yes because your parents also give you a lot aiden's i'm is all part of being a parent is also about sacrifice wonder i was asked then i thought that oh yes, just do it, most of us are vermont fish, and i had my naturally for the course along the way. you start having doubt, zoe. if you ask, am i doing the right thing? when am i doing to my son
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a something could go wrong and as can help with the other? oh ah! at as in university hospital, more than a 100 organ, transplants are carried out each year as a so called smart hospital. it also works with artificial intelligence in the transplant center, computer science experts and doctors like professor answer it chillik and dr. felix ninja worked together. calculating the size of the liver correctly is vital for transplant success. a c t scan creates a multi layered image of the organ. the doctor then marks the liver tissue. it's not a very exact procedure. artificial intelligence can scrutinize each image more closely, a ye dessert of about the i. i basically ensures that a human doesn't have to draw anything by hand yet a shift. it can determine the difference between liber tissue and other tissue on
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every single layer of it was of this was how the i calculated the exact location of tall must lumens live up. his mother was given exactly half. a mistake in the calculation could have been fatal. i don't know why he sees a voluminous an extreme fish value kenzie on his off knowing these measurements as critical mojitos. we can't open her up and say, oh it's too small. and so her up again, had that really shouldn't happen. that's why it's extremely important for us to ensure that the calculation is exactly righty. vitally important to us. hot. yeah, that's why doctrine enzo made one manual drawing based on his observation. one done and then one with the help of artificial intelligence. matuse it a conclusion into against. and you did the same for my son to know exactly for if we humans wanted to be as precise as the i. we'd probably need to invest not just
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half an hour, but an hour and a half or so yet. so luckily with a i, you can do it in seconds. these all in sequin, when as are gone, so claim an examination that's considerably faster and more precise. it offers a better chance that the valuable organ will not be rejected. you know, as, as the ad i did, the never works really, really well. and the doctor operating on me told me to take good care of it. uh huh . and his mother and son can look ahead again with optimism. they're not concerned about having their data stored centrally in the hospital. since we're, i'm as good as valid. i'm happy for them to have the data model. if something happened they'd be able to act immediately. yet critics often cite dash or privacy issues as one of the reasons for skepticism about artificial intelligence. but research data is always anonymized. oliver esta is in charge of tracking the eyes
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development. in this case, the program is learning how to potentially distinguish between healthy and sea cliff cells. as a smooth, as in the close, it's possible to observe the development process and see what progress is being made during training. i'm, i'm was just going to have to imagine it is like an ongoing program. you have to be able to see how good it is at every stage of the training. what is the actor? and yet artificial intelligence is only as good as the data. it's supplied with and the people programming it was high because it is called artificial intelligence, but it is completely out official and there is nothing intelligent about it. so being able to react intelligently to when you challenge that something that way humans can do. and i can't humans are intelligent machines are precise and quick mod medicine is making the most of these combine strengths
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professors so could as team at berlin chart. i hospital has been visiting anna nits of the months now to develop a new form of communication, forehead. with some success. she is starting to express herself with eye movements. i was itch is as the whole my 1st you see her blinking normally. and then she makes a definite eye movement to switch on the light their 1st success, a tiny one, but one that's encouraging for all concerned you
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would design the hard. i would say she has made progress, but progress is slow. and while some expectations often filled up as aren't in a vase learning processes need time, is it a down puts a said, the powerful, tight to make progress easier, more efficient and less exhausting. the research is a now trying out a new type of sensor. these so called quantum sensors measure the magnetic fields about the skull. very precisely. they would mean that patients like and in it so would no longer need to make tiring eye movements to be able to communicate with. so i missed him. there was a system like this would enable ms. nixa to clearly communicate what might be causing her discomfort. and on the other hand, to organize her personal care in the past, for example, to communicate whether she wants to sit up or lie on her side. she missed her off. as i did either at present the system can only be used in
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a laboratory setting palace, i, shannon's right. yeah. i hear in berlin, the i t specialists are also developing the ais learning process at the same time, in real time, the programs are coming through the huge quantities of darcia produce, showing the measurements they're looking for patents. that's how they learn to distinguish between a person's brain signals. that ability is key to artificial intelligence. as a, let's this good to say i am out of the ultimately it's always about the interaction between humans and technology. so for best and improving this interaction. so you no longer noticed where one starts and the other stops. that's monday. it's about combining these powers so that people with restricted movement can move again mitchum with all putting this at their disposal so they can manage everyday life like every one else, g, m,
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you dot and the dimension m. i talked to last. com. ah, for enter nits and have family professors so could as research could mean an enormous step forward making their lives a bit easier and introducing a bit of normality is either as i see it as the only chance to help us look, we will help to help my wife, what am i know, how to head from the hopeful that if we hope that science makes when you progress. so a lot of people can be health dimension. alcohol. my daughter is not the only one affected . there are no doubt quite a few people like her val. it's not just a few isolated individuals who are special intelligence can help to improve health care by improving diagnostic procedures and cutting costs. but blind enthusiasm is just as misplaced as blind distrust if it can help us to reduce suffering. we shouldn't be afraid of using ai
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