oh, ready? no. welcome to take a hackers, paralyzing your societies. computers that are some are you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can go in for but how they can also go terribly, watch it now on you to ukraine, once the united states has it, and russia says it will take aim at it. the pentagon is reportedly finalize. he plans to send a patriot missile defense system to ukraine. it's america's top of the lined air defense weapon. it could be a game changer, given ukraine's military unprecedented capability to respond to moscow's air

strikes. and russia isn't planning to let that happen. the kremlin confirming that it will target and destroy the patriots if and when they're put in ukrainian hands . i broke off in berlin. this is the day. ah, we recognize that with the air threat that russia poses to ukraine. that air defense continues to be a priority. just with the transfer of such sophisticated weapons would mean even broader involvement of the u. s. military personnel and the hostility and the traffic in light of rushes, cruel and continued heavy bombardment of innocent civilians and civilian infrastructure. and you crank with the patriot along with personnel servicing that will remain legitimate priority targeting for the russian armed forces cleaning at

the, at the moment. you know, let's use high mars, for example, or, or ne sam's, right? so any of those systems, washington has effectively become a party to the conflict. also coming up for the 1st time ever, nurses in the united kingdom are on strike. they're demanding better pay better working conditions. and they're asking for a little more appreciation. these we don't, this group don't want to be. they want to be in that. i don't want them to be here . i want the choice. if we continue to just put in there and endure the conditions that are going on will exist in a to our viewers watching a p b us in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the deadly threat to ukrainians from the air and the weapon to stop there . almost every day russia launches missiles or drones targeting civilian targets

across ukraine. it's why on any given day, thousands or millions faced the, the winter cold without power or heat. and it's also why ukrainian president zalinski says the battle for the skies has priority. now, over the battle on the ground for months jeep has been asking for more western air defense systems. while the pentagon is now reportedly preparing to send patriot air defense systems to ukraine. now, white health sources saying that president biden gave the go ahead after reports that iran could supply russia with longer range missiles. now, a patriot battery is one of the most powerful air defense systems in the world capable of taking out incoming missiles and aircraft at long range. it could change the power equation in the skies just as american high mars have done on the ground . the kremlin is not planning to let that happen. warning that patriots in ukraine would be a provocation and a target. here's the spokes person from russia's foreign ministry. didn't authentic,

i am a lot on on december 13th, it was announced that the u. s. would supply ukraine with the battery of patriot missiles? previously, lots of experts, including on the other side of the atlantic, doubted this step would be reasonable because it would escalate. the conflict increased the risk of the u. s. army being drawn into it. but as they say, if you're going to play, you might as well play hard let apart from that. it's other people's lives at stake . re jesus are elizabeth brown. she is a resident fellow at the american enterprise institute. she joys me tonight from washington. it's good to have you on the program. the russian foreign ministry seemed that the delivery of patriot missiles would be of further provocation. we just heard that the comment there and that the u. s. has effectively become a party in this war. how much of this is, is this bluster or would they really see patriot missiles as a game changer? when they were serving to see a picture of misses as a, as a game changer,

which is why the u. s. government was so hesitant to, to deliver these missiles when the ukrainians 1st asked for them to wine ago, and because it was seen as, as a really significant u. s. involvement. but as we have seen of the course of this year, and the us and other western countries have stepped up there and deliberate of various weapons to, to ukraine, including jeremy, which, which asked us, you know, was, was so reluctant for such a long time. and other countries as well. sweden, recently i stepped up with deliveries, they're there. and the point is that russia is not really a position do anything about it. so it's, it's threats at the moment i most, i, i don't want to say that because they are to be taken seriously. but russia is not in a position to manufacture a lot of weaponry on its own. and it doesn't have a lot of campus or able to manufacture for it because it hadn't plan of war this long. it stuck. i'm wondering if we are expecting

a little too much from the ukrainian military. i mean, is it really possible for ukrainians to, to learn to operate patriot systems quickly? i mean, i understand it takes about but up to 90 soldiers to operate just one battery. yes, i am. they would have said to last, very quickly, now it takes a long time to learn how to operate it. because it's, it is a sophisticated piece, a weapon. on the other hand, it's better to have it than not to have it. and should of or be over at which is on monday by should it be over by the time they've not operated? no harm done. but in essence, the american, the by ministration has made it seems to have made the decision that it's, it's not enough to just provide and monitor as weaponry. and it's not going to to significantly change the course of this war. you have to set up the game in order for this war to and in the near future. otherwise, we drag on to the detriment of every that you create russia. the rest of the, well,

the us we know is training ukrainian soldiers in germany. their new reports has plenty to increase the numbers significantly. recently, germany was in discussions as a possible source of patriots for ukraine. it isn't not possible for european nations to supply these advanced weapons to ukraine weapons that they already have it is that every country looks off to itself in the 1st instance, and that's natural. and the other thing though, is that a european country at the european country was to provide weaponry this powerful to ukraine. it would expose itself to, to russian repercussions. and because almost every country is weaker than russia militarily. if the u. s. provis patriot missiles, russia won't be in a very, very good position to retaliate. so if the u. s. goes 1st, it opens the door for the european countries to do the same, but they would not be depressed,

but they wouldn't want to be the 1st ones to go. so in essence, this is a good opportunity or convenient opportunity for other european countries not to do that process and to try to, to shorten this war by for friday, and very sophisticated separated to the right and as well. it's an opportunity that is true, but i want you to consider something that the head of the british armed forces said just recently, i've got a quote from admirable to admiral tony roddick and said that were the us to contemplate a more radical pivot to the indo pacific it would cost natives european nations more than $300000000000.00 over 10 years to match the u. s. current investment in our securities $300000000000.00. me even with germany's decision to go ahead with the purchase of f $35.00 still finder jet. is there any hint that europe is heading for self sufficiency in its defense?

no. and that is why america has had to lead the way in providing weaponry to ukraine and indeed lead the way in virtually every other geo political issue in recent months. in recent, yes, because european armed forces are simply not in a position to, to, to do very much on their own. and that is the why it initiatives like emmanuel, my cons, strategic autonomy ideas. they never get off the ground because the, the capacity is not there. the weaponry, the manpower is not that in your, if you don't get a germany alone, as it struggles to recruit. so just even to the current size of the bonus, let alone a future larger ones. so for all the anti americanism that many of us, europeans like engage in european defense, desperately rely on the united states. and it would be good to acknowledge that and

stop dreaming it stopped jimmy, but the risk of the scenario happening? you know, it's not, you know, some, some nightmare scenario. i mean, is europe? is it just one american election away from being left alone to stand up to russian aggression? that is, that that would be a terrible scenario. and i think we all, we're all contemplating what would happen if, if donald trump were to, to win next election. but there isn't another thing happening, which is the confrontational, think placed outside the military and domain in global trade. and that's where the americans desperately need the european eyes, because the blood is splitting up into trading docs. essentially one bed by china, one led by the united states and european union. and in order for that to work, if we're not going to do as much business with china as we used to do, we have to deepen our ties within this western community and, and,

and possibly including countryside, black vietnam, india. but we have to deepen those ties, otherwise our national economies are g, d, p is going to plummet, and that's why american needs these and european allies at, even though they can be annoying sometimes. okay, you said it elizabeth brought from the american enterprise institute in washington . elizabeth, we appreciate your time and your insights to night. thank you. oh rushes invasion of ukraine 10 months ago, triggered of sudden and massive exodus of people, more than a 1000000 ukrainian men and women and children have fled. just to hear in germany alone in search of shelter and safety. a new study is documenting their experiences . researchers of interviewed thousands of ukrainians now living in germany, trying to find out what the challenges have been and what they continue to struggle with. of this includes accessing public services as well as enrolling children in

school. there is also the psychological impact my next guest is a ukrainian refugee who fled the war in her home country and now lives right here in berlin. i'm pleased to welcome here at the big table, lena rehab, linda. it's good to have you with us, and i mean, it's an honor to have you here to tell your story. i know it can't be easy. i understand that you've been here since may. so what was what 3 or 4 months after the war began? tell me what made you make the decision to leave on? actually one ah, russia tech to crane. hi. everyone of course was confused. nobody could make their own decision. what should i do? how can i help myself, myself and etc. so me and my friends made a decision to tie it in the village name by keith. and it was a mistake because like in 3 days,

russian military attack this they were trying to get by it this village. so for more than a week, a long you were hired, you know, hitting any, i would know a tre city and no internet connection cetera. and we couldn't leave that village because each car, which was trying to do that, was shocked by russian army. is that what you were afraid is that if you tried to leave the russian saw you, they would shoot you a couple years. but one day we succeed to escape or because we took a risk like there is a chance. anyway, you will die from a russian military and styles or, or you can just try leave. and i really like it because i know you cranium military, you create like a green us. yes. going to military. make it to get through. so you got to get

through, you know civilians are so we escaped to western ukraine the most say far to recurring in your brain. and then we made a decision to to try to flee to europe. so like this where you decide to use a clean safety, you decided to come here to berlin. can you tell us? so i'm wondering to say what it's like if you were a successful business woman one day and the next day you were asking strangers in a foreign country speaking foreign language to give you something to eat and somewhere to sleep. what is it, what does it feel like? ah, silly, i'll try to explain it. like when i think it's ukrainian feels the same way, like your real life previous life is frozen somewhere

in february, february. and what we're doing now is creating some temporary life. and we believe that one day when you creating will win that real life february life will be on frozen. yeah. i don't know we're creating like temporary, temporary, new life. and what is that new life like noon? like it's it's interesting and you ask what it feels like to ask strangers for help and etc. and me and my friends, we really like it because we are hosted by german family. actually it's 3 families in one house, but in separate play, a flat and they hosted us accepted us. they help with everything mental health,

financial support, all the paper stuff which is really difficult. if you're a rock we see right. i yeah, yeah. and they're really like a family. i feel like it's my 2nd family. did you, did you, did you, linda? did you expect to get this, this type of? yeah. open arms for people when you decided to come here. ah, to be honest, you know, because when the war began, i like, i think everyone lost the hope in the world like it's going crazy. so when i write to germany, i once a step to the station, i was wondering how friendly people are and they were like, oh, you know from ukraine, why do you need to get ok to take this train, take this bus, and really that family accepted me as a, as a doctor. and i'm still really surprised like, well, how can people use it?

you're so young. you've still got your, your life ahead of you. you say that this is, this feels like, you know, your, your life has been put on hold for a minute. but can you imagine that you would want to stay here or has berlin is becoming a part of you, your life and you boars it and, and because you're right now, i think most of us will. i get to the point when you crane will william. i you want to go back to homeland and be helpful there really to rebuild country and etc. but still this temporary life in another country. it takes some part of you and i think we'll manage somehow to leave to life. but so countries are you. that's what you're convinced that ukraine will win this

war. course i, i'm sure because i see cranium when all, what we're fighting for, we're fighting for now is independence. see freedom for our national under identity for our life right here to that's why will, when it says the matter of time, oh, lena rover, we appreciate you for taking the time to talk with us and you know, your story gives hope to humanity that the human condition can also be a good one. thank you. thank you for having me. ah. what 2 years ago with the corona virus sent people into intensive care? they were often the only thing between life and death. i'm talking about nurses the pandemic. it may be ending, but the plight of these essential men and women. it is not today in parts of the u . k. nurses staged an unprecedented strike. it's the 1st time that the royal college of nurses, trade union is called the strike and it's 106 year history. up to 100000 nurses,

walked off the job on thursday. they say that this is a last resort in their fight for a better wages and better working conditions. leaders say that nurses are overworked, do this short staffing, and that's exasperated by a backlog of appointments and treatments made worse by the curb over virus. and is the head of the nurses union, followed by the british health minister. i would love to say wasn't negotiation to the government, they're refusing to negotiate with me. to bring me into a more tell me i can talk about anything but hey, they close their books. don't put an extra bryant penny on the table and they walk away and they turned the back on their back on the perfection. you know, that we have an independent process that looks at these issues in the round that looks at the pressure for many viewers. a face with higher tax is facing cost of living, pushes and balances, those with the needs of our managers as well. and independent pay view looks at

these issues. and we have it set to their recommendations in full. i'm janelle, by howard cat. and he is the ceo of the international council of nurses. he joins me from geneva. mr. kenton is good to have you on the show. you know, i want to ask you, we reported so much on the nurses in the u. k. when the pandemic started at the worst phase of the pandemic, and it was the nurses who were the essential workers that people were praising, they were a god sent to many people. how is it possible that in the span of 2 years, we go from that to the a 100000 nurses striking because they can't even get a proper pay increase a good evening. this is an issue in the u. k. it's a global issue. we have seen during the share from the summer an increase in disputes and in strike action, right the way around the world. and there are some striking similarities in terms of what led us to this point. we have had a historic,

under valuing of the nursing profession, right? the white around the world. we have the words of care of compassion, of a vocation. but that's almost been an excuse not to pay nurses fairly and properly. as you cite the pandemic then comes along and everybody sees the true value of nurses and nursing care, holding our community, holding our society together. we got on our doorsteps, and we applaud who worked on this is not health care workers have done. but as we move one from the pandemic, that applause hasn't translated into any action quite the opposite. the u. k. a digging in. we're not even going to talk to the nursing leaders about pie, so that applause without action has led to understandable anger. but this one other really important point. yeah, it's the heart of what the nist in the u. k. a sank and around the world. this is

a patient safety issue. we don't have enough nurses. we can't provide say, high quality health care services where you're in your organization, the national council of nurses, you've written to the u. k. government, you're calling for more investment and health care. are you saying if things continue the way they are that going into a clinic going into a hospital? if, if you're, if you're sick, you may be actually putting your life in your health in danger by doing their i think the shortages that we have in health care right now already present a risk to patient care. but the reason we wrote to the health minister in the u. k is because we have this narrative, which is we can afford to pay nurses, you know, we've got difficult economic times who got war in europe. we pay nurses. inflation

is going to go up. this is wrong thinking. we need to flip 180 degrees. how we look at health care, not as a cost, but as an investment, as i've said, when health care go wrong off societies or communities, you know, start to crumble. but we also know when we health care goes right. people are healthy, they work, they're productive. it's a driver for economic growth, and if we invest in health work is in our health care systems. in the research and the innovation, we firmly believe that the road to economic growth is paved by investment in health . and that's the argument that we're trying to make to o governments around the world. yeah. and your argument, it's a valid one, but you know, even even in our program today, you know, reporting about a 1617 year old player in brazil who play soccer and he's now been transferred, you know,

for millions and millions of dollars that speaks to the priorities our society has right now. millions for soccer players, not millions for nurses. i wonder how you changed that because i think we're talking about something here that goes beyond appropriations and budgets. i think you're right. i think there's a much deeper issue about how we value different workers and what's important to us as to source is you know, the, the, the irony around they strikes is that just a few months ago we were saying to our nurses and how it work is you are the most important people holding our societies to gather. but now we're saying to them that they, that, that if they can go on strike, we can't afford to pay you. we've got governments who are driven by, you know, free market principles. the forces of supply and demand, but with 50000 nursing vacancies in the u. k. we think that we could be more than

10000000 versus sure, globally as well. those free market principles would tell you that pay is part of how you recruit and retain, but ministers, health minister positions are turning their back on that ways that i think one of the reasons why that maybe i think is a gender issue going on here. as well, i think, you know, my profession is 90 percent women and the fact that, you know, we're not looking at the hard economics. we're not looking at a house curity and safety issues. we not looking at the economic arguments for investing in, in how, why our, our politicians turning that back. i think part of that could be the site because it's the gender of the profession. i think to emergent, we're out of time with but yeah, it's a valid argument. i think you could have this conversation talking about school teachers, talking about police officers, firefighters, people that we depend on,

you know, for the essentials, and for some reason, society doesn't want to pay them more than we know that they, they deserve the unfortunate we are on a time howard canton with international council nurses. thank you. we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. well, the day is almost dawned, the conversation continues on line. you'll find us on twitter, either dw, near as you can follow me on twitter at brent golf t. v. and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day, we'll see that everybody with, [000:00:00;00]

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