tv The Day Deutsche Welle December 16, 2022 6:02am-6:31am CET
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ah, ukraine once in the united states has it, and russia says it will take aim at it. the pentagon is reportedly finalize. he plans to send a patriot missile defense system to ukraine. it's america's top of the lined air defense weapon. it could be a game changer, given ukraine's military unprecedented capability to respond to moscow's air strikes. and russia isn't planning to let that happen. the kremlin confirming that it will target and destroy the patriots if and when they're put in ukrainian hands . i broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, we recognize that with the air threat that russia poses to ukraine,
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that air defense continues to be a priority. just with the transfer of such sophisticated weapons would mean even broader involvement of the u. s. military personnel in the hostility, i mean in light of rushes, cruel, and continued heavy bombardment of innocent civilians and civilian infrastructure. and you've cranked with the patriot along with personnel servicing that will remain legitimate priority targets for the russian armed forces. cleaning the at little, you know, let's use high mars for example, or, or ne sam's, right. so any of those systems, washington has effectively become a party to the conflict. also coming up for the 1st time ever. nurses in the united kingdom are on strike. they're demanding better pay better working conditions and they're asking for a little more appreciation. these, we don't, this group don't want to be. they want to be in. i don't want to be here with
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choice. if we continue to just sit in there and endure the conditions that are going on, that will exist to our viewers watching a p p. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the deadly threat to ukrainians. from the air and the weapon to stop that. almost every day russia launches missiles or drones targeting civilian targets across ukraine. it's why on any given day, thousands or millions faced the, the winter cold without power or heat. and it's also why ukrainian president zalinski says the battle for the skies has priority. now, over the battle on the ground for months jeep has been asking for more western air defense systems. while the pentagon is now reportedly preparing to send patriot air defense systems to ukraine, now, white house sources saying that president biden gave the go ahead after reports
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that iran could supply russia with longer range missiles and patriot battery is one of the most powerful air defense systems in the world capable of taking out incoming missiles and aircraft at long range. it could change the power equation in the skies just as american high mars have done on the ground. the kremlin is not planning to let that happen. warning that patriots in ukraine would be a provocation and a target. here's the spokesperson from russia's foreign ministry. nothing to guy babylon. on december 13th, it was announced that the u. s. would supply ukraine with a battery of patriot missiles previously, lots of experts, including on the other side of the atlantic, doubted this step would be reasonable because it would escalate. the conflict increased the risk of the u. s. army being drawn into it. but as they say, if you're going to play, you might as well play hard let apart from that. it's other people's lives at stake . re jesus are elizabeth brown. she is
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a resident fellow at the american enterprise institute. she joys me tonight from washington. it's good to have you on the program, the russian foreign ministry saying that the delivery of patriot missiles would be of further provocation. we just heard that the comment there and that the u. s. has effectively become a party in this war. how much of this is this bluster or would they really see patriot missiles as a game changer? when they were suddenly se patrons met us as a, as a game changer, which is why the u. s. government was so hesitant to, to deliver these missiles when the ukrainians 1st asked within a while ago and because it was seen as, as really significant u. s. involvement. back as we have seen of the course of this year. and the us and other western countries that have stepped up there and delivery of various weapons, city ukraine, including jeremy, which, which asked us, you know, was, was so reluctant for such
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a long time. and other countries as well. sweden recently has stepped up. it's with us, delivers further, and the point is that russia is not really a decision you anything about it. so it's, it's threats at the moment i most, i don't want to say that because they are to be taken seriously. but russia is not in a position to manufacture a lot of weapon to be on its own. and it doesn't have a lot of companies are able to manufacture for it because it hadn't plan of war this long. it stuck. so i'm wondering if we are expecting a little too much from the ukranian military. i mean, is it really possible for ukrainian students to learn to operate patriot systems quickly? i mean, i understand it takes about but up to 90 soldiers to operate just one battery. yet they would have to, to learn very quickly now it takes a long time to learn how to operate it. because it's, it is a sophisticated piece of weapon. on the other hand, it's better to have it than not to have it and should have or be over at which is
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unlikely by should it be over by the time they've not operated. no harm done, but in essence, the american, the by administration has made it seems to have made the decision that it's, it's not enough to just provide monitoring weaponry. it's not going to to significantly change the course of this. well, you have to step up the game in order for this war to and in the near future. otherwise, it would drag on to the detriment of every that ukraine, russia, the rest of the well, the us we know is training ukrainian soldiers in germany. their new reports is planning to increase the numbers significantly. recently, germany was in discussions as a possible source of patriots. for ukraine, it isn't not possible for european nations to supply these advanced weapons to ukraine weapons that they already have this that every country looks off to itself in the 1st instance. and that's natural. and the other
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thing though, is that a european country at the european country was to provide weaponry this powerful to ukraine. it would expose itself to 2 russian repercussions. and because almost every country is weaker than russia militarily. if the u. s. provides patriot missiles and russia won't be in the very, very good position to retaliate. so if the u. s goes fast, it opens the door for the european countries to do the same, but they would not be the 1st one. they wouldn't want to be the 1st ones to go. so in essence, this is a good opportunity or convenient opportunity for out of the european countries not to do that process and to try to, to shorten this war by for friday, and very sophisticated by project it to the right hands as well. it's an opportunity that is true, but i want you to consider something that the head of the british armed forces said just recently, i've got a quote from admirable to admiral tony roddick and said that were the us to contemplate
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a more radical pivot to the indo pacific it would cost natives european nations more than $300000000000.00 over 10 years to match the u. s. current investment in our securities. $300000000000.00. mean, even with germany's decision to go ahead with the purchase of f $35.00 still finer jet, is there any hint that europe is heading for self sufficiency in its defense? no. and that is why america has had to lead the way in providing weaponry to ukraine. and indeed, lead the way in virtually every other geo political issue in recent months and recent yes, because european armed forces are simply not in a position to, to, to do very much on their own. and that is the why it initiatives like emmanuel, my cons, strategic autonomy ideas. they never get off the ground because the,
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the capacity is not there. the weapon rate. the manpower is not that in your head. if we don't get a germany alone as it struggles to recruit, so just even to the current size of the one to see, let alone a future logic one so. so for all the anti americanism that many of us europeans like to engage in european defense desperately rely on the united states. and it would be good to acknowledge that and stop dreaming instructor, the risk of the scenario happening. you know, it's not, you know, some, some nightmare scenario. i mean is europe, is it just one american election away from being left alone to stand up to russian aggression? that is, that that would be a terrible scenario. and i think we all, we're all contemplating what would happen if, if donald trump worked it too when next election. but there isn't another thing
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happening, which is the confrontation of things placed outside the military and domain in global trade. and that's where the americans desperately need the european eyes, because the blood is splitting up into trading docs. essentially one bed by china, one led by the united states and european union. and in order for that to book, if we're not going to do as much business with china as we used to do, we have to deepen our ties within this western community and, and possibly including countryside like vietnam, india. but we have to deepen those ties, otherwise our national economies are g, d, p is going to plummet, and that's why america needs these european allies at, even though they can be annoying sometimes. ok, you said it elizabeth brought from the american enterprise institute in washington . elizabeth, we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. oh
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rushes invasion of ukraine 10 months ago, triggered of sudden and massive extra. this of people were that a 1000000 ukranian men and women and children have fled just to here in germany alone in search of shelter and safety. a new study is documenting their experiences . researchers have interviewed thousands of ukrainians now living in germany, trying to find out what the challenges have been and what they continue to struggle with. of this includes accessing public services as well as enrolling children in school. there is also the psychological impact my next guest is a ukrainian refugee who fled the war in her home country and now lives right here in berlin. i'm pleased to welcome here at the big table, lena ra hope lena. it's good to have you with us, and i mean, it's an honor to have you here to tell your story. i know it can't be easy. i understand that you've been here since may. so what was what 3 or 4 months after
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the war began? tell me what made you make the decision to leave? i actually wash, i checked your crane. ok. every one of course was confused. nobody could make the right decision. what should i do? how can i help myself? so my cellphone, etc. so me and my friends made a decision to try it in the village name by keith. and it was a mistake because like in 3 days, russian military attack this, they were trying to get by this village. so for more than a week river was your home, no heat in any i would know a tracy and no internet connection cetera. and we couldn't leave that village because each car, which was trying to do that was shot by russian army. is that what you were afraid is that if you tried to leave the russian saw you, they would shoot you
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a couple yards. but one day we succeed to escape or because we took a risk like there is a chance, any way you will die from a russian military and styles or, or you can just try and do really like it because i cranium military, a create like a green us, you're going to military to get through. so you had to get through. yeah. civilians are so we're escape to western ukraine. the most say far to recurring your brain. and then we made a decision to try to flee to europe. so like that's where you decide to use a cleaning and safety. you decided to come here to berlin. can you tell us? so i'm wondering to say what it's like you were a successful business woman one day and the next day you were asking strangers in
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a foreign country speaking foreign language to give me something to eat and somewhere to sleep. what is, what does it feel like? i mean, i'll try to explain it like when i think it's ukrainian feels the same way like your real life previous life is frozen somewhere in february, february. and what we're doing now is creating some temporary life. and we believe that one day when you crane will win that real life february life will be on frozen. yeah. i don't know we're creating like temporary, temporary, new life. and what is that new life like?
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i like it's it's interesting and here as to what it feels like to ask strangers for help and etc. and me and my friends, we are really lucky because we are hosted by german friendly actually it's 3 families in one house, but in separate play. a flat and they hosted us accepted us. they helped with everything mental health and financial support, all the paper stuff which is really difficult if you're a rock you see right. i yeah, yeah. and they're really like a family. i feel like it's my 2nd family. did you, did you, did you, linda? did you expect to get this, this type of? yeah. open arms for people. when you decided to come here. i to be honest, you know, because when the war began, i like,
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i think everyone lost the hope in the world like it's going crazy. so when i write to germany, i once a step to the station, i was wondering how friendly people are and they were like, oh you're from ukraine. why do you need to get ok to take this train, take this bus and really that family accepted me as a, as a doctor. and i'm still really surprised like, well, how can people use it? you're so young. you've still got your, your life ahead of you. you say that this is this feel like, you know, your life has been put on paul's for a minute. but can you imagine that you would want to stay here or has berlin is becoming a part of you, your life and you've or isn't it? and because you're right now, i think most of us will. i get to the point when you crane. well,
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when i, you want to go back to homeland and be helpful there really to rebuild country and etc. but still this temporary life in another country. it takes some parts of you and i think we'll manage somehow to leave to life, but psychiatrist are you, that's what you're convinced that ukraine will win this war course. i'm sure, because i see craniums, we know what we are fighting for. well, i don't for now is in dependency. freedom for our national and identity for our life right here to that's why will, when it says the matter of time, oh lena rover, we appreciate you for taking the time to talk with us. and your story gives hope to humanity that the human condition can also be
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a good one. thank you. thank you. thank you. for 2 years ago with the corona virus sent people, the intensive care, they were often the only thing between life and death. i'm talking about nurses the pandemic. it may be ending, but the plight of these essential men and women. it is not today in parts of the u . k. nurses staged an unprecedented strike. it's the 1st time that the royal college of nurses, trade union has called a strike and it's 106 year history. up to 100000 nurses, walked off the job on thursday. they say that this is a last resort in their fight for better wages and better working conditions. leaders say that nurses are overworked, do this short staffing, and that's exasperated by a backlog of appointments and treatments made worse by the curb over virus. and who's the head of the nurses union, followed by the british health minister, i would love to say wasn't negotiations with the government. they're refusing to
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negotiate with me to bring me into blame. to tell me i can talk about anything but hey, they closed their books. don't put an extra bryant penny on the table and they walk away and they turned the back on their back on the profession. you know that we have independent process that looks at these issues in the round that looks at the pressure for many of you is a face with hiretech says, face and cost of living crushes and balances. those were the needs of our new chess as well. and independent pay view looks at these issues and we have it set to the recommendations in full. i'm janelle, by howard cat and he is the ceo of the international council of nurses. he joins me from geneva. mr. kenton is good to have you on the show. you know, i want to ask you, we reported so much on the nurses in the u. k. with the pandemic started that the worst phase of the pandemic. and it was the nurses who were the central workers that people were praising. they were a god sent to many people. how is it possible that in the span of 2 years,
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we go from that to the 100000 nurses striking because they can't even get a proper pay increase a good evening. this is an issue in the you kite. it's a global issue. we have seen during the share from the summer an increase in disputes and in strike action, right the way around the world. and there are some striking similarities in terms of what led us to this point. we have had a historic, under valuing of the nursing profession, right? the white around the world. we have the words of care of compassion, of the vocation. but that's almost been an excuse not to pay nurses fairly improperly. as you cite the pandemic then comes along and everybody sees the true value of nurses and nursing care, holding our community, holding our societies together. we got on our doorsteps,
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and we applaud who worked on this is not health care workers have done. but as we move one from the pandemic, that applause hasn't translated into any action quite the opposite. the u. k. a digging in. we're not even going to talk to the nursing leaders about high so that applause without action has led to understandable anger. but there's one other really important point. yeah, it's the heart of what the nist ukiah saying and around the world. this is a patient safety issue. we don't have enough nurses. we can't provide say, high quality health care services. you in your organization, the national council nurses, you've written to the u. k. government, you're calling for more investment and health care. are you saying if things continue the way they are that going into a clinic going into a hospital? if, if you're, if you're sick, you may be actually putting your life in your health in danger by doing their i
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think the shortages that we have in health care right now already present a risk to patient care. but the reason we wrote to the health minister in the u. k is because we have this narrative, which is we can afford to pay nurses. you know, we've got difficult economic times. we've got war in europe. we pay nurses. inflation is going to go up. this is wrong thinking. we need to flip 180 degrees. how we look at health care, notice a cost, but as an investment, as i've said, when health care go wrong, off societies or communities, you know, start to crumble. but we also know when we, how kit goes, right. people are healthy, they work, they're productive. it's a driver for economic growth, and if we invest in health work is in our health care systems. in the research and
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the innovation, we firmly believe that the road to economic growth is paved by investment in health . and that's the argument that we're trying to make to all governments around the world. yeah. and your argument, it's a valid one, but you know, even even in our program today, you know, reporting about a 1617 year old player in brazil who played soccer and he's now being transferred, you know, for millions and millions of dollars that speaks to the priorities our society has right now. millions for soccer players, not millions for nurses. i wonder how you changed that because i think we're talking about something here that goes beyond appropriations and budgets. i think you're right. i think there's a much deeper issue about how we value different workers and what's important to us as to source is you know that the, the irony around the strikes is that just
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a few months ago we were saying to our nurses and health workers, you are the most important people holding our societies to gather. but now we're saying to them that they, that, that if they can go on strike, we can't afford to pay you. we've got governments who are driven by, you know, free market principles, the forces of supply and demand, but with 50000 nursing vacancies in the u. k. we think that we could be more than 10000000 versus shore globally as well. those free market principles would tell you that pay is part of how you recruit and retain, but ministers, health minister positions are turning their back on that. why is that? i think one of the reasons why that maybe i think is a gender issue going on here. as well, i think, you know, my profession is 90 percent women in the fact that, you know, we're not looking at the hard economics. we not looking at
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a house curity and safety issues. we not looking at the economic arguments for investing in, in how, why our, our politicians turning their back. i think part of that could be the site because of the gender of the profession. i think to emergent, we're out of time restrictions, but yeah, it's a valid argument. i think you could have this conversation talking about school teachers, talking about police officers, firefighters, people that we depend on, you know, for the essentials, and for some reason society doesn't want to pay them more than we know that they, they deserve. but unfortunately out of time, howard can with the international council nurses. thank you. we appreciate your time to night. thank you. well, the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter or either dw news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf tv and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody
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while the west appears hesitant on to the point we asked is eastern europe leading the continents with to the point. next, d, w is the end of the pandemic in site. we show what it could look like return to normal and we visit those who are finding it difficult with success in our weekly coping 19 special in 60 minutes on d. w. oh. they breathe. ah,
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they have body and soul houses that daniel leaders can't construct far more than just buildings. he is the son of jewish holocaust survivors. how lucky that i was able to bill to just present berlin. his architecture is a celebration of democracy and i and architect of emotions. daniel starts december 25th on d, w. mm. heavy fighting continues in easton, ukraine withdrawn and missile attacks on major cities at infrastructure. russia's president, putin is leading his war of aggression. no matter the cost, the war is bringing death and destruction to ukraine, but it is also changing policy structures.
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