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ah franklin oh, ready knows. come to take, told me about hackers and paralyzed me, tire societies, computers than elsewhere. you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can go. it was in for a group, but how they can also go terribly. watch it now on youtube. in february 2014 copenhagen so decided it could no longer accommodate registry. number 44345, marius. his jeans were too similar to those of other mail traps already in the
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breeding program. the young animal was healthy, but he was put down. despite the protest that came from around the world, shot dead, ma, gills, people lug raps, murderer germans is also have what they call surplus animals. some are called and it's likely that will happen there. asi, as with the to consumption, misses the future. we're looking at you just have to accept that in nature life and death go hand in hand. i talk to somebody on how will this affect the public image of sous ah let these lions and properties are fed 6 times a week to day filthy serve goats from the paintings of breeding director azalea have back will be attending the cold slaughter structure of the
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inside on they decide which animals get to live on. so it's only right that i sometimes do the job too, even if it's not pleasant. but, but i put the african pygmy goats on their list of animals to transfer to other zoos. but no other zoom needs them. at almost 4 months old, the young males have to be separated from the herd. otherwise they might soon try to mate with their mothers. we were given permission to film something that most sues are reluctant to show animals, not just being born in captivity, but sometimes also being killed, even though they're in good health. with this not ot us off, the do also has predator animals. of course, if we don't use these animals to feed them, we'd have to order sides of beef from somewhere and it's unlikely that those cows were treated humanely. so this is the way to go on this big mac meadows
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veterinarians thus get higher, will be killing the goats and the familiar surroundings of their own pen. the vault gun is a device also used to stand cows and sheep before their slaughtered for human consumption . oh my got the angle on the slide. ok. the gun is used to stun the animal by firing a metal bolt into its brain. the staff then cuts at throat and the kid leads to death bulletin, so typically calls young goats from the petting zoo once or twice a year which runs on guzman force. you're glad once it's over, because of course, it's not something we enjoy deciding which animals to slaughter as a moral dilemma. zoom visitors tend to prefer that the animal sped to others are ones that also end up on our plates. but as zebra, there you have back and so director ana loveland want the public to question their
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gut feeling was susan. she's not there. typical is she's not in the big enclosure cause an unlike garza so she's got to be somewhere else or maybe in the stable on her own. we downsizing causes she's been ejected from the heard had all the full yup canal in recent weeks. the mail zebra has been bullying a female called charlotte to look over that. if we take a look from the side. yes, there she is, alyssa, that visit us because the mail zebra has been kicking and biting the female charlotte has to be moved. is still your habit. can't find her a new home. the zebra might also end up as lion feed. so far this hasn't become a common practice and other german zoos. steve, i nigger is on here. so some of my colleagues are afraid of scaring off visitors. dimension. there's this idea of zoos as a kind of cuddly. perfect little world, like in a disney movie where everyone's happy, allah cushion
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a world where there are only births, but there is no debt. no, sure, no stab into china. these go with us, but we need to talk about reality. instead of creating this idealized and unrealistic world for people just so they feel happy. as proficient the director would like to see more realistic conditions where visitors get to understand nature cycles of life and death. but is that likely to happen? to protect the sensibility of the public most suit could there predators anonymous meet with no head or fur and chopped up into small pieces? i see i have bag is available to talk to visitors who are present on days when called animals are fed to predators. walking home oh yeah.
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mm hm. how long have they been dead? set up since about quarter of 9 this morning. 1349 and for yeah, i look and push and isn't long there from our padding do not saw. and until to day they've had a really lovely life there enough. what his name was aunt morgan devices. oh would she knows where i sausages come from and yet is good and that's what lines eat. oh, who serves part of nature right now, but not everyone can cope sharleen of a do toe and her godsa. noah made a quick exit from the lion's feeding time. damn good, next isn't social kit give is moved up. you seemed pretty affected by what you saw and were shocked. ranked funding basil xenon switches. yeah, yes or no? no, it was pretty scared. right? for last one. and it's a bit frightening. does the whole animals being fed to others tiers on guns and you
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see the blood till monday just blew? would know i love and listen, flush lions need to eat meat meaning animals. yelton's are normally we feed our carnivores meet. we get from a slaughter house just like you get your steak from a butcher to mitigate on good then, since there's no connection to the animal, it doesn't upset you. it's the civic frontier. this does upset us. it upsets us to meet us. put ones, not the but we feel we need to show a part of the cycle of nature as a business due to something it's hiking this wednesday. not that nature. it's horrible, but we enjoy the taste of it. the smell in the lions due to rush, i'm oh no. was the soviet dish us with so we're willing to risk upsetting a visitor or 2 because it's important. ah, most people learned from what they've seen and accepted as part of nature, and thus it would be unnatural to keep it hidden, foolish as we have a will not relish to sophistic last minuses which animals are called answers. and why? over the years, zeus have learned how to provide optimal care for animals and captivity,
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and more and more animals born in captivity are surviving and reaching a ripe old age. that means that zeus are running out of space. further south and germany, the daily routine and nerve boxes, gorilla sang tree, begins with a contraceptive breakfast original, grunted mamma. it's the regular pill for women. were we inserted into a chunk of banana and the ape eats it over the mills? zookeeper hm. one also had ministers the pull in the morning before the girls had outside to their enclosure at the same time every day. and we will come here hobby will not you. 21 days on the pill followed by a week without just like with humans swimmer. good catalino, you'll both be going out. and the 2nd norma has welcomed the birth of 2 baby girl. as in the last 3 years, the male gorilla thomas have now passed on his jeans turned off offspring. that's
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why the contraceptives have been introduced these days. a primate born in captivity is no longer headline news. you flatter is philip lines truly just in that and the oven with on baby to see mines in humble facebook and m t r. coggan baked leslie. they weighed heavily cut. most young animals used to be caught in the wild zoo. birds were so rare that only humans were entrusted with caring for them. no, i've been hi, ghoulish base enough. who hope that in and the other 20 baby nick, good alcohol revealed. this was well intended, but had unintended side effects. young animals reared by humans often lost many of their natural parental instincts. no max to director dad anchor remembers the old days. as a boy in the 1970s, he enjoyed being a playmate for the young apes, and the clay filled zoo where his father was the director. today,
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doug anchor is also vice president of the germans do association. he is worried about how animals like his to infant, male gorillas, will be ferrying, and 15 or 20 years. each group of females needs only one mature male for breeding. so these infant males aren't needed for the breeding program. doesn't fuels all frauding on the india. these are issues that can be emotionally overwhelming for people who work on the animal submitted to you and get. none of us would be able to just say fine, we'll put him down to morrow as it is this on the so loosely off on. so we have to arrive at a solution that we're able to tolerate and live with your mom. this was all foolish, are releasing them into the wild as currently not an option. a shrinking natural habitat means that guerrillas are at risk of extinction. when was as guns, heidi columns of the taking it to the extreme, you could say we're going to start breeding them because the growing number of all
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the animals pushes the population pyramid up on their steel. it becomes leaf shaped and eventually you have 0 at the stem on that meaning no new offspring or long lot . so the species is effectively extinct long before the last animal has died on it's illusory. to just say we have so many animals here. don't know if they're unable to reproduce them. the species is dead or flexible. spacious honesty are thought that anchor sees as though as a kind of sacred art preserving species that are dying out to the wild. but an arc has a limited number of animals on board and it can only stay afloat if it produces future generations. irony is one of only $35.00 female asian lions still registered as potential reading stock and european says you're in. she tends to hide away when we arrive young, vague. i wonder she sees the bad as does he go to school? let them call. if i they said she's watching us her
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any up until august 2021. the lion's compound also included a male called so bally, when he grew older and became sterile, the director raised the possibility of having him put down and replaced with another male. so bali was one of the serious biggest attractions, however, and the idea of him being killed provoked a backlash from both the public and the media. mickleson calling louvin alden show to buy lead time to barbie. her don't problem. we did not. whoops, club this needs to weeks. dish in flips inside. it was does to you to to know irony is now alone. so barley has been euthanized because he was 2nd in pain. says tug anchor. those and part of bosch would offer, rated you let a prime example of the dilemmas you can face with conservation measures involving a highly endangered species. as, as those values on that we have the job of preserving and nurturing a healthy population elsewhere. doff, which is looking extremely closely at using the potential woman i teal,
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ana football if there are only $35.00 fertile female lions available, and one of them is paired with an infertile male english. and then we have to vacate that spot of belief. good. so we were really happy that he died or this week manuel, on the high for those august almost. that's really yes. in the kind of zoom that doug anchor would like to see the lifespan of an individual animal comes 2nd to the survival of a species. german animal welfare laws have strict standards for calling a healthy animal, killing an animal in order to eat it, meets that standard. and so does killing ones do animal to feed it to others. an animal no longer meeting the needs of a breeding program does not meet the legal standard for calling. germany's association of zoo operators is advocating for those laws to be changed. lucille, industry infusions. if there are a lot of situations today where there is no good solution for us,
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for our conscience befitting little, but we need solutions that make sense in the long term, or even if they can sometimes cause us a lot of pain. hazel's and us on said was if a litzy does so visitors will also have to stomach that that's missing every one. well, or we have fewer species. there is one country where the set of envisaged by dark anchor is already a reality. denmark in 2014 copenhagen, zeus euthanized marius, the draft because his jeans were already well represented. and breeding programs knows who had heard that could accommodate him. veterinarian mads bateson had been present at mario's his birthday and was now the man who pulled the trigger. when he was 2 years old, oh yes, i will. one of each one was very young. patterson also publicly dissected the animal and front of visitors, i think will avoid. they're about to 8 years on people still regularly ask them
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about marius. so this is our commissary, where we prepare the food for the animals and, and actually mario's was dissected right here. and um, and then later on, fit to our lives looks little bit different today, unless unlike this kind of public anatomy class is not unusual in denmark, all the people who came to watch it 1st of all, paid the entrance fee and then secondly decided to go behind the scenes to watch this, so nobody were inadvertently subjected to this, they chose to be here and $10.00, though. lot of children here. and in fact, the children were the ones asking the best questions. matt spouton is now the zoos director. the zeal now has 2 new giraffe cats, mary's, his half sister, and a young ball. it's unclear whether the young ball will be needed in the breeding
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program. the same situation that marius found himself in this constant dynamic so, so you never know right from the beginning. um, but after a while it became, it became clear and, and that at the time that he was eventually shot, it was because he was now fighting with father. just like was seen the rhine of behind me here in his time to move in with many species, there's only room for one, mature a male in a group. this young rhino will soon be moved to another suit where he'll be given his own. heard. that option wasn't available for marius. so he was called and fed to the says lions. a few months later the lions were also euthanized. what might sound like? poor planning is actually part of a strategy. the lions and copenhagen live in upright together with their young men is, isn't germany also used contraceptives to limit the number of surplus animals. but
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there are potential side effects, including nutrient tumors, and permanent and fertility. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. the lions here only produce offspring every 2 or 3 years, just like in nature. and that's only possible because animals are cold i think that basically quality of life is more important than quantity of life. and an animal doesn't plan ahead a line doesn't know how long his life is going to be, but it does know how the life feels. and i think a lion pride is much more functional and much more natural if they have youngsters . these young lions are scheduled for transfer to another soon, but around half of the males born here, end up being put down when they're about to the agent, which in the wild they would be expelled from their pride. that context something the copenhagen su explains to its visitors. i dont think danes are any any or
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harder or tougher than the germans and i think they're more hunters in germany of percentage wise. so no, i think this is, this is a p r a question. this is a something, and of course live the legislation. it comes into it but, but this is something that we need to consider very carefully. why do we need, what do we need to do and then and then do what is right. but who decides what is right? zeus calling worms and sex and mice. what about animals that humans eat 2 or other similar animals? what about animals that would be shot by hunters when humans destroy their natural habitat? what guidelines should we follow? and why? oh, it's a debate that is welcome tier and for pattern the zoos director azalea havoc is looking for the female zebra that has been attacked and driven out of the herd by the mail and needs
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a new home. another se has now said it might take talent, but right now it's too hot to transfer her. it's not mac, we'll have to find an alternative solution driving overnight for it would be great for her to find a group where she'll be okay and of all over to whitfield. now, that's the idea. so sometimes it's change animals in situations like this or to prevent, in breeding. finding a take her for a female tends to be easier than with males. kaitlin again, elephant cal tica is pregnant. yeah, those good veterinarians as get higher as performing an ultrasound. but they will only find out the elephant baby's sex when it's born in that may be here, instead,
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a female would be good news for the breeding registry. the number of elephants born ensues isn't high enough to preserve the species of it looks good, but the number of balls is already close to the maximum of 8 rather than i'm looking at the head. and the trunk of the reading registry provides su, director on a love once with a running record of all $190.00 african elephants. captain sue's across europe, the gender balance among the older 2 elephants is similar to what seen in nature. the females far out number the males. that's because many were born in the wild at a time when zeus sees the chance to acquire females. while that was still permitted among elephants born in captivity, however, the gender balance is now equal. and that's a problem that's because in the wild elephants live in matriarchal herds in which the female spend their entire lives together,
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males eventually leave their group. many of them die at a young age chica had her last offspring a girl. 2 years ago. the entire herd supported her during the bern. elephants have strong family bonds and are extremely social animals. they enjoy playing with the young halves in the herd . a complete halter breeding programs in order to prevent excess males could destroy their social structures. so the zoos are looking for compromise solutions. and follow with the good one idea is to extend the intervals between birds. but ultimately, we're just extending the process where we at some point have to take action. but elephants lived the age of 4050 or 60 years old. to charlotte. in recent years,
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sous have been established in groups of young elephant bulls to take in surplus males. those areas of africa were elephants can still live in safety from poachers have no room for additional males. it's only a matter of time until zeus run out of capacity and what happens then. next to director dad anchor is looking for a solution for us to and think of relas, which are now registered as surplus animals. that quest has brought him to the dutch city of calcutta, along with the silver backs and females and gaia zoo. there are 2 gorillas that wouldn't exist in the wild, castrated males gases from there. it is pretty bizarre for xena xena. them grow to the size of a regular mail while staying extremely then lime was. and that's not feminine either because adult females actually get rather fat. so this is
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a quite unique phenotypic now does i in the field trip? did i did the males were castrated so that their father wouldn't attack them and they could remain in the group. monitor doug anchor is meeting with patrick fund via the biologist as a senior advisor to the wildlife conservation group set up by pioneering primatologist. jane goodall visit was breeding director amy pence also join said he and his team have been conducting an experiment. they're integrating a new silver back and growth of castrated adult males. that was the biggest worry him was our because we're with introduction of the new silverback. oh, because we were afraid because they're the same age and maybe years competition. it was nothing else than a female really, for the silver back, i would say the new silver back doesn't see the castro males as rivals. the procedure was carried out before they'd reach puberty, which explains their abnormal development. looks like chrome,
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it really to provide a healthy, social group or surplus males. others. those are likely to begin castrating younger ls in a perfect world. but like van van would prefer that no primates live in captivity, but the prospects for apes, no wild, aren't rosie either. movie dim flemister sits in filter fin. the problem is that there will be no guerrillas left in 40 or 50 years time and on paper that they do still exist, but in populations that are no longer sustainable. since the seed ladders are also does, it looks like the reserve populations and zoos which still have a healthy balance will be crucial for any attempts to preserve apes and the while. while food are on the lawn for the socum. the think it, us source zoos really do have a responsibility to plan ahead for what to do with the animals in the future. thus much artificial mortality is an absolute no go here. oh that something i would
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never support. it really does me. i finished it is foolish to lord, i'm afraid we'll reach the point where we have to say do our ethical standards apply to the species or the individual animal, and how do we reconcile that with reality is food with susan? unlike the silver back, the young gorilla males and learn back home never had a group of females. but castrating them means they will be able to grow old in the crew feller, torn in to assist the tradition comp or mr. of course, at the com mize approach and our overall conservation concepts will have to incorporate a lot of compromises with natural conditions social skill. so this little job, wild trophy, zeus has spent years trying to provide animals in captivity with a more natural environment. now so many species have become fertile enough that sues have to use castration or contraception, or they have to take a previously unthinkable step, making sure that the mortality rate and zoos as similar to the wild offering for
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better the ostracized female zebra will be spared the fate of being fed to the lions. charlotte is going to be picked up today. the plan is to usher into the trailer box as soon as the connecting door opened its missing was mute. uncle, mister hall, we make our exit and leave her alone was united with us. got and get it. so you go into the box. it's if need be. that won't happen. yeah. so it'd be the absolute worst case scenario. ross case via dasa wasted emmy dusty and remember she might come back at you with a real farm. so put your whole body behind and also then with trouble now for, for promise. and then it's time will see anything. so you have x jarvis to shut the door as soon as the z present side, the trailer. ah,
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charlotte has a 6 hour drive ahead of her to her new home and bavaria and isn't 5, it's not for me. so i'm not in this case. it's a nicer outcome than feeding her to other animals because i know she still got most of her life ahead of her funds. if she'll have offspring and will be able to raise her own young and county that wasn't possible here because she still young and the stallion threw her out of the herd. not. and before that she hadn't reached full sexual maturity of high school. so that life is now beginning for her, which is great. as soon as the homeless magnificent tia they have back wants to give her animals a happy life and captivity,
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and the company of their own kind. that's why she and annella can see calling healthy individuals as a price worth paying, even though it's painful, especially when it comes to certain species, flight offish op notice is miss, maybe i'm just hoping that i'll be retired before it comes to that. uh huh. but sadly, i know this, i believe that it's the only option for sustainably managing endangered and small populations klein a popular soon in british nar hodges minutes. and so can buy. it will allow us to ensure reproduction and other animal welfare priorities this week. that's why it's important for us to talk about it and for people to give some thought to the issue . it's a deliberate knocking. for many visitors sous have been an idealized world, a place of refuge. how will they respond if su operators are forced to confront harsh realities with painful solutions? ah
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ah. devastated how was the soft are we can we assume of course carry lifeline defects of climate change. i mean, felt worldwide deforestation in the rain forest continued carbon dioxide emissions have risen again. young people all over the world are committed to climate protection. what impact willy has? because change doesn't happen on its own. make up your own mind. d. w. late for mines.
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