is the coming increasingly scarce? have these subjects wise, zeus sometimes kill kluso. mm. next on dw, we've got some hot tips for your bucket list. romantic corner tread hotspot for food and some great cultural memorials to boot d w. travel off we go. in february 2014 copenhagen so decided it could no longer accommodate registry. number 44345, marius. his jeans were too similar to those of other mill traps already in the breeding program. the young animal was healthy,

but he was put down. despite the protests that came from around the world, shot dead mother use people love rob's murderer. germans is also have what they call surplus animals. some are called and it's likely that will happen there. he is with you to concerned been if this is the future we're looking at, you just have to accept that in nature life and death go hand in hand and i talked to somebody how will this affect the public image of says ah let these lions and papa tire are fed 6 times a week to day felt the serv goats from the paintings in breeding director, azalea habit will be attending the goat slaughter mister shelves inside on they

decide which animals get to live on. so it's only right that i sometimes do the job too, even if it's not pleasant. papa time put the african pygmy goats on their list of animals to transfer to other zeus. but no other zoom needs them. at almost 4 months old, the young males have to be separated from the herd. otherwise they might soon try to mate with their mothers. we were given permission to found something that most sues are reluctant to show animals, not just being born in captivity, but sometimes also being killed, even though they're in good health. with this, not us after this do also has predator animals. of course, if we don't use these animals to feed them, we'd have to order sides of beef from somewhere and it's unlikely that those cows were treated humanely. so this is the way to go as well as being mac meadows.

veterinarians thus get higher, will be killing the goats in the familiar surroundings of their own pen. the vault gun as a device also used to stand cows and sheep before they are slaughtered for human consumption. oh, my god, the angle and the sky. okay. the gun is used to stun the animal by firing a metal bolt into its brain. the staff then cuts its throat and the kid leads to death. bulletin so typically calls young goats from the petting zoo once or twice a year. which runs on guzman force. you're glad once it's over, because of course, it's not something we enjoy deciding which animals to slaughter as a moral dilemma. zoom visitors tend to prefer that the animals fed to others are ones that also end up on our plates. but as zebra, there you have back and so director ana loveland want the public to question their

gut feeling was susan. she's not there. typical is she's not in the big enclosure cause an a la garza so she's got to be somewhere else. or maybe in the stable on her own, we downsizing houses. she's been ejected from the heard had all the flu happen to know. in recent weeks, the male zebra has been bullying a female called charlotte to talk about that. if we take a look from the side. yes, there she is, alyssa, that visit us. because the male zebra has been kicking and biting the female charlotte has to be moved. is sylvia habit can't find her a new home. the zebra might also end up as lion feed. so far, this hasn't become a common practice and other german zoos. steve, i nigger is on here, so some of my colleagues are afraid of scaring off visitors. dimension. there's this idea of zoos as a kind of cuddly, perfect little world, like in a disney movie where everyone's happy. i like watching a world where there are only birds, but there is no debt. no, sure,

don't stab until china. these go with us, but we need to talk about reality instead of creating this idealized and unrealistic world for people just so they feel happy. as as proficient the director would like to see more realistic conditions where visitors get to understand nature's cycles of life and death. but is that likely to happen? to protect the sensibility of the public, most sous could there predators anonymous, meet with no head or fur and chopped up into small pieces. i see i have bag is available to talk to visitors who are present on days when called animals are fed to predators. walking home oh yeah.

mm hm. how long have they been dead? set up since about quarter of 9 this morning. 1349, and i look on switch and isn't long there from our padding do yet saw. and until today, they've had a really lovely life. fair enough. what his name was on more devices. oh would. she knows where i sausages come from and yet is good and that's what lines eat. oh, clues service part of nature. right now. but not everyone can cope. sharleen other too tall and her god son, noah made a quick exit from the lion's feeding time. of am good max is in social kit. give is lula. you seemed pretty affected by what you saw and what you were shocked. right. funding, bus yoga. zena switched ish. yes. yes. or no? no, it was pretty scared. right? for the last one. and this is a bit frightening. does the whole animals being fed to others tiers on guns and you see the blood till monday just blew?

would know. i love mustn't flush lions need to eat meat, meaning animals. yelton's are normally we feed our carnivores meet. we get from a slaughter house just like you get your steak from a butcher to mitigate on good then, since there's no connection to the animal, it doesn't upset you. it's the civic frontier. this does upset us. it upsets us to beat us food once, not be, but we feel we need to show a part of the cycle of nature as a business due to something it's heigenbeck wednesday, not that nature. it's horrible, but we enjoy the taste of it. the smell in the lions due to brush i'm oh, when does the service dish us with so we're willing to risk upsetting a visitor or to because it's important. ah, most people learn from what they've seen and accepted as part of nature, and thus it would be unnatural to keep it hidden, foolish as we have a will not relish to sophistic last minuses which animals are called answers. and why? over the years, zeus have learned how to provide optimal care for animals in captivity,

and more and more animals born in captivity are surviving and reaching a ripe old age. that means that zeus are running out of space. further south and germany, the daily routine and nerve boxes, gorilla sang tree, begins with a contraceptive breakfast. original grunt from our it's the regular pill for women . were we inserted into a chunk of banana and the ape eat? said probably amelia zookeeper. hm. one also had ministers the pill in the morning before the girls had outside their enclosure at the same time every day. and we will come here, i'd be, will not you? 21 days on the pill, followed by a week without just like with humans, swim good catalino, you'll both be going out. and the 2nd norma has welcomed the birth of 2 baby coalesce in the last 3 years. the male gorilla thomas has now passed on his jeans

turned off offspring. that's why the contraceptives have been introduced these days . a primate born in captivity is no longer headline news. latter is philip lines cooling between that and the oven, with done baby se minds in humble facebook and m t m ha ha ha baked leslie debate. emily kat, most young animals used to be caught in the wild. blue birds were so rare that only humans were entrusted with carrying for them. no, i've been hi, ghoulish base enough. who hoped that in and the other to any baby nick, good alcohol revealed. this was well intended, but had unintended side effects. young animals reared by humans often lost many of their natural parental instincts. no max to director dag anchor remembers the old days. as a boy in the 1970s, he enjoyed being a playmate for the young apes, and the clay filled zoo where his father was the director. today, doug anchor is also vice president of the germans do association. he is worried

about how animals like his to infant male guerrillas will be ferrying and 15 or 20 years. each group of females needs only one mature male for breeding. so these infant males aren't needed for the breeding program, doesn't fuels or friday on the in be are, these are issues that can be emotionally overwhelming for people who work on the animal submitted to you and get none of us would be able to just say fine we'll put him down to morrow as it is this on the so loosely off on. so we have to arrive at a solution that we're able to tolerate and live with grandma, and as result for releasing them into the wild as currently not an option. as shrinking natural habitat means that guerrillas are at risk of extinction limits as guns hardly columns. often taking it to the extreme, you could say we're going to start breeding them because the growing number of all

the animals pushes the population pyramid up on their steel, it becomes leaf shaped, and eventually you have 0 at the stem on that meaning no new offspring or lawn lot, so the species is effectively extinct long before the last animal has died. it's illusory to just say we have so many animals here, don't know if they're unable to reproduce them. the species is dead, or from the safest honesty are thought. dug anchor sees as though as a kind of sacred are preserving species that are dying out to the wild. but an ark has a limited number of animals on board and can only stay afloat if it produces future generations. irony as one of only 35 female asian lions still registered as potential reading stock and europeans is given. she tends to hide away when we arrive. young. i wonder she sees the back as he noticed glen according to what i that is that she's watching us. i made up until august

2021. the lions compound also included a male called so bally, when he grew older and became sterile, the director raised the possibility of having him put down and replaced with another man. so barley was one of the sous biggest attractions, however, and the idea of him being killed provoked a backlash from both the public and the media. mit goals and covey lucian olden shall to buy lead time to barbie. how don't problem. we do not. whoops, club, this needs to be station in flint inside at most us to you today. then irony is now alone. so barley has been euthanized because he was sacon and pain says dog anchor . thus, i'm part of, i should offer and ready to let a prime example of the dilemmas you can face with conservation measures involving a highly endangered species. the sizes for alexander, we have the job of preserving and nurturing a healthy population elsewhere, doff, which is looking extremely closely at using the potential woman i teal, and a football if there are only $35.00 fertile female lions available. and one of them

is paired with an infertile male need wish. and when we have to vacate that spot of belief, good. so we were really happy that he died on this big one with on the hive. what are the cust oldness that really yes. in the kind of zoom that doug anchor would like to see the lifespan of an individual animal come 2nd to the survival of a species german animal welfare laws have strict standards for calling a healthy animal, killing an animal in order to eat it, meets that standard and so does killing one through animal to feed it, to others. an animal no longer meeting the needs of a breeding program does not meet the legal standard for calling. germany's association of zoo operators is advocating for those laws to be changed. lucille industry infusions, if there are a lot of situations today where there is no good solution for us,

for our conscience, the fin also. but we need solutions that make sense in the long term, or even if they can sometimes cause us a lot of pain. hazel's and us on said was if a lesson does so, visitors will also have to stomach that dusk, every one well or we have fewer species. there is one country where the set up and visited by dark anchor is already a reality. denmark in 2014 copenhagen zill euthanized mario's the draft because his jeans were already well represented in breeding programs. nosy had heard that could accommodate him. veterinarian mads bateson had been present at mario his birthday and was now the man who pulled the trigger. when he was 2 years old, oh yes, i will. of one of each one was very young. baby patterson also publicly dissected the animal and front of visitors, i think will abort their about it is 8 years on people still regularly ask him

about marius. so this is our commissary, where we prepare the food for the animals and, and actually mario's was dissected right here. and um, and then later on, fed to our lives looks little bit different today. unless, unlike this kind of public anatomy class is not unusual than denmark, all the people who came to watch 1st of all, paid the entrance fee and then secondly decided to go behind the scenes to watch this. so nobody were inadvertently subjected to this. they chose to be here and 10 though, lot of children here. and in fact the children were the ones asking the best questions . matt's baptism as now this is director mozilla now has 2 new giraffe cats, mary's, his half sister and a young ball. it's unclear whether the young ball will be needed in the breeding program. the same situation that marius found himself in this constant dynamic so,

so you never know right from the beginning. but after a while it became, it became clear and, and at the time that he was eventually shot, it was because he was now fighting with father. just like was seen the rhine of behind me here. and it's time to move in with many species. there's only room for one, mature male in a group. this young rhino will soon be moved to another zoo where he'll be given his own. heard. that option wasn't available for marius. so he was called and fed to this is lions. a few months later the lions were also euthanized. what might sound like? poor planning is actually part of a strategy. the lions and copenhagen live and upright together with their young men is, is, and germany also use contraceptives to limit the number of surplus animals. but there are potential side effects including neutral and tumors,

and permanent and fertility. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. the lions here only produce offspring every 2 or 3 years just like in nature . and that's only possible because animals are cold i think that basically quality of life is more important than quantity of life. and an animal doesn't plan ahead a line doesn't know how long his life is going to be, but it does know how the life feels. and i think a lion pride is much more functional and much more natural if they have youngsters . these young lions are scheduled for transfer to another zoo. but around half of the males born here, end up being put down when they're about to the age at which in the wild they would be expelled from their pride. that context something the copenhagen so explains to its visitors. i don't think dane saw any any or harder or tougher than the germans

and i think they're more hunters in germany of percentage wise. so no, i think this is, this is a p r a question. this is a something, and of course the legislation that comes into it but, but this is something that we need to consider very carefully. why do we need, what do we need to do and then and then do what is right. but who decides what is right? zeus calling worms and sex and mice. what about animals that humans eat 2 or other similar animals? what about animal? so would be shot by hunters when humans destroy their natural habitat. what guidelines should we follow? and why? oh, it's a debate that is welcome tier and for pattern the zoos director azalea havoc as looking for the female zebra that has been attacked and driven out of the herd by the mail and needs a new home and others who has now said it might take charlotte,

but right now it's too hot to transfer her is not mac, we'll have to find an alternative solution driving over night fall. it would be great for her to find a group where she'll be ok from the local to literal. now that's the idea that so sometimes exchange animals in situations like this or to prevent in breeding. finding a taker for a female tends to be easier than with males. caitlin, an elephant cal tica is pregnant. yeah, that's good. veterinarians as yet higher as performing an ultrasound, but they will only find out the elephant baby sex when it's born in that may be

here. instead a female would be good news for the breeding registry. the number of elephants born ensues isn't high enough to preserve the species of it looks good, but the number of balls is already close to the maximum of 8 rather than i'm looking at the head and the trunk either. the reading registry provides su, director on the loved ones with a running record of all $190.00 african elephants. captain sue's across europe, the gender balance among the older 2 elephants is similar to what seen in nature the females far out number the males. that's because many were born in the wild at a time when zeus seized the chance to acquire females. while that was still permitted. among elephants born in captivity, however, the gender balance is now equal. and that's a problem that's because in the wild elephants live in matriarchal hurts, in which the females spend their entire lives together. males eventually leave

their group. many of them die at a young age chica had her last offspring a girl 2 years ago. the entire herd supported her during the bern elephants, how strong family bonds and are extremely social animals. they enjoy playing with the young halves in the herd. a complete halter breeding programs in order to prevent excess males could destroy their social structures. so those are looking for compromise solutions and follow through with the good one idea is to extend the intervals between birds, but ultimately we're just extending the process where we at some point have to take action. but elephants lived the age of 4050 or 60 years old to shide. in recent

years, these have been establishing groups of young elephant bulls to take in surplus males. those areas of africa where elephants can still live in safety from poachers have no room for additional males. it's only a matter of time until zeus run out of capacity and what happens then next to director dad n k is looking for a solution for his $2.00 and $3.00 gorillas, which are now registered as surplus animals. that quest has brought him to the dutch city of kent clutter, along with the silver backs and females and gaia zoo. there are 2 gorillas that wouldn't exist in the wild, castrated males gases from there. it is pretty bizarre, was in the seeing them grow to the size of a regular mail while staying extremely then lime was. and that's not feminine either because adult females actually get rather fat. so this is a quite unique phenotypic now, does i in the field trip?

did i did the males were castrated so that their father wouldn't attack them and they could remain in the group. monitor doug anchor is meeting with patrick fund via the biologist as a senior advisor to the wildlife conservation group set up by pioneering primatologist. jane goodall visit was breeding director amy pence also join said he and his team have been conducting an experiment. they're integrating a new silver back into growth of castrated adult males. that was a big worry him. he was our big we're with introduction of the new silverback. i because we were afraid because they're the same age and maybe years competition. it was nothing else than a female really, for the silver back i wish i knew silver back doesn't see the castro have meals as rivals. the procedure was carried out before they'd reach puberty, which explains their abnormal development looks like chrome. it has 3

media to provide a healthy, social group or surplus males. others. those are likely to begin castrating younger ls in a perfect world, but like fan van would prefer that no primates live in captivity, but the prospects for 8, no wild aren't rosie either. didn't blame, it says it's in filter fin. the problem is that there will be no guerrillas left in 40 or 50 years time and on paperless, they do still exist, but in populations that are no longer sustainable, they seem to see bladder laws. it looks like the reserve populations and zoos which still have a healthy balance will be crucial for any attempts to preserve apes and the wild of all food on the loan for new. so from the think it, us a source. zoos really do have a responsibility to plan ahead for what to do with the animals in the future. um bus mach artificial mortality is an absolute no go it. oh that something i would

never support. it really does me. i understood which foolish to lord, i'm afraid we'll reach the point where we have to say do our ethical standards apply to the species or the individual animal and how do we reconcile that with reality is food bit of, through them. unlike the silver back, the younger ela mails and learn back home, never had a group of females, but castrating them means they will be able to grow old in the crew fella, torn in to mr. to this, and comp, or mr. of course, at the com. mize approach and our overall conservation concepts will have to incorporate a lot of compromises with natural conditions, social skills. so those little jew baltazar, zeus has spent years trying to provide animals in captivity with a more natural environment. now so many species have become fertile enough that sues have to use castration or contraception, or they have to take a previously unthinkable step, making sure that the mortality rate and zeus is similar to the wild boyfriend but

better, the ostracized female zebra will be spared the fate of being fed to the lions. charlotte is going to be picked up today. the plan is to usher into the trailer box as soon as the connecting door opened spoofing was mute. uncle mister hall, we make our exit and leave her alone. was he, daniel with us? got him, get it. so you go into the box. it's if need be. that won't happen. yeah. it'd be the absolute worst case scenario. ross case via dasa wasted emmy dusty and remember she might come back at you with a real farmer. so put your whole body behind and also none. mcarthur cropper. 4 full promise. and then it's time will see anything. so you have ex jarvis to shut the door as soon as the z press inside the trailer. ah,

charlotte has a 6 hour drive ahead of her to her new home and bavaria and didn't fight with me. so i'm not, in this case, it's a nicer outcome than feeding her to other animals because i know she still got most of her life ahead of her lance lindsey was she'll have offspring and will be able to raise her own young and knock down. that wasn't possible here because she still young and the stallion threw her out of the herd and hot and before that she hadn't reached full sexual maturity of high school. so that life is now beginning for her, which is great. as soon as the homeless mom long left his own tia, there you have back, wants to give her animals a happy life in captivity, and the company of their own kind. that's why she and anna laugh can see calling

healthy individuals as a price worth pain. even though it's painful, especially when it comes to certain species, flight offish off, notice each miss, maybe i'm just hoping that i'll be retired before it comes to that. aha. but sadly, i know the, i believe that it's the only option for sustainably managing endangered, and small populations. trying to pull out sworn in british narcotics minutes and so can buy. it will allow us to ensure reproduction and other animal welfare priorities and this week. that's why it's important for us to talk about it and for people to give some thought to the issue. it's debbie, about knocking for many visitors. sous have been an idealized world, a place of refuge. how will they respond if su operators are forced to confront harsh realities with painful solutions? ah,

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