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w dot com ah, ever since his country was attacked by russia, volota mere zalinski hadn't left you crane for a minutes to day. he embarked on his 1st trip abroad to me, joe biden. the man who has in the past 10 months been his staunchest and most powerful supporter for lensky won't return to keep empty hand it. the u. s. is significantly boosting at security assistance to ukraine, including the transfer of the long awaited patriot missile system. on the other side of the world, russian president vladimir putin addressed military leaders today, promising to achieve all his goals in ukraine in 2023. i'm nichol ferla, him, berlin, and this is the day ah, what we'll do with we will do everything possible and impossible,
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expected and unexpected, so that our heroes have everything they need to win with. we will continue to equip our strategic forces with the latest types of weapons. i repeat all the plans outlined will certainly be fulfilled in light of russia's cruel and continued heavy bombardment of innocent civilians and civilian infrastructure. and ukraine will continue to have those discussions and look at capabilities that they'll need to defend their territory. any weapon system industry supplied to ukraine, including the patriots, along with a personnel servicing them, and will remain legitimate priority targets. also coming up a growing humanitarian crisis and the tax and board and tat border town of el paso, as the biden administration, struggles to find a way out of a trump era immigration policy. we don't ask, why did you come?
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we simply say, turn around and go back somewhere and we're certainly done. and so some of the more unstable and dangerous places in the world. welcome to the show. since his country was invaded by russia, ukrainian president of a lot of re zalinski has met them all. the united nations, e u leaders, even world music royalty at the grammys. all of them virtually. now, for the 1st time since february, the lensky has traveled abroad to meet you as president joe biden, and address lawmakers on his surprise trip to washington zalinski aims to shore up support for his country's efforts to defend itself from russia's continued aggression. b, u. s. government has pledged another $1800000000.00 in military 8. ahead of their talks in the white house, the lensky offered biden, a gift from a ukrainian soldier, grateful for the american military hardware that helped change the course of the
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war. i want to give you something one guy who's really, really hero, real captain. and he asked me to pass he's award. he asked me to this work person by them. he was a sick captain, full timers. battery. yes, he's very brave and he said give it to very brave president. i want to give you that is a cross cross military marriage that is wrong with that is from here. i live here all to live. yes, i did upgrade, this is not my is in ukrainian language, but here that translation is phone name or can yes yes. vocal level
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will under with much appreciate thank you. thank you says that all made many brothers for the system saved. so thank you. the u. s is now sad to deliver another missile system as part of the latest package. the patriot considered a gold standard of air defense. ukraine had been asking for patriots since the war began. the white house, as a patriot battery, is supplying to ukraine, will be a critical asset to defend the ukrainian people against russia's barbaric attacks. a training personnel on how to use the missiles properly could take weeks. oscar has worn that's applying. ukraine with patriot missiles will have repercussions. katherine lawler is with the institute for the study of war and joins me now from washington, dc with lawler. welcome back to the day. how big of
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a game changer could these patriot systems really be for ukraine? the patriot won't change the outcome of the war, but they will enable you crane to better protect the kimberly it's civilian populations and civilian infrastructure. and especially it's electrical infrastructure from repeated russian missile attacks. so the more air defenses ukraine has, the more widely it can deploy them. if say ukraine set up its patriot battery in keys, ukrainian forces might then be able to move forward. other defense systems like there as 3 hundreds to better defend other towns or frontline positions. so it won't change the overall picture of the war, but it will have a dramatic effect for civilian safety and protecting infrastructure in discrete areas. under what circumstances are these air defense systems most effective? because recently russia has increasingly been using drones to attack ukrainian infrastructure at ken this new a tool help fend off these kinds of attacks or is it operating on
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a way bigger scale? i would say a bigger scale. so patriots are most effective against higher flying, longer range missiles and against small to medium scale attacks. so a patriot system might be able to target and bring down maybe 5 missiles at a time. there, there is a limit and the more missiles or drones that are used in a particular attack, the more we'll get through that's true for any air defense system. that being said, the patriot is not uniquely well equipped to bring down low flying munitions, including the iranian made drones that russia has been using at scale. so the patriot could shoot down some of those, but it becomes a question of cost. and every patriot interceptor costs upward of 4000000 u. s. dollars and ukraine will not have an unlimited supply of interceptors. there's already a global shortage. so ukraine will need to make difficult prioritization decisions . that being said, ukranian air defenses hurting prinz numbers,
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are already bringing down somewhere around 80 percent of those drones and 70 percent of the missiles that are fired into ukraine. so, the patriots can only increase those numbers. the handling of the patriot is quite complex, though, is that how long would it take for the mas also seems to be deployed a and for troops to be trained to use them. so it takes about 90 service members to operate one patriot battery. and for us forces they train for at least 5 months before they deploy those systems. ukrainian forces have proven that they are able to learn very quickly and very well on a variety of foreign equipment so far. so i assume that ukraine will be operating on an accelerated training schedule, and the training could begin very quickly, probably in germany or poland, but even accelerated, it will still take weeks or months for one of these systems to become operational and ukraine. moscow has warned, and that's the patriot missiles being sent to ukraine will lead to repercussions.
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what could those look like? i'm they could look like targeting the patriot system with missiles. it could look like additional garages in the front line. i mean, moscow has stated many red lines throughout this conflict, many of which have been crossed without substantial repercussions beyond the operations that the russian military would be undertaking anyway. so it's hard to draw a direct parallel, but the patriot will, will certainly do more good then, then harm. and there is plenty of military aid on the table besides the patriots systems, to a $1800000000.00. and how is all of this going to affect the war and ukraine's capabilities these of the, the continued attacks coming out of russia? rates of the patriots, flashy. but the larger u. s. military aid package that's expected to pass this week is much more important to the overall war effort. so u. s. and allied provisions of equipment training artillery. we've talked
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a lot about job lens. all of those have allowed ukraine to defend itself and to progressively drive out russian forces. this package might also include technology that can empower ukraine's air force with what are called smart bombs and ukraine can absolutely find creative uses for those guided weapons, including more accurate targeting of russian command positions, ammunition depots, and more effective targeting overall. so that aid is incredibly important to the war effort flooded we put in today's spoke to military leaders and told them that he was certain russia would achieve it stated goals in ukraine in 2023 at this point. what are the goals? the stated russian goals are frankly, some nonsense about d notification and gaining full control over the illegally annexed and temporarily occupied ukrainian territories. but russia's actual strategic objective remains the complete control of ukraine and the eradication of ukraine,
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statehood and ukraine's identity. it's not about capturing specific territory territories or just of means through which russia can wage traditional attacks on ukraine statehood. and we've seen this playing out in those temporarily occupied territories where russian forces are forcibly deporting ukrainian children, their banning the use of the ukrainian language and their teaching ukrainian children in schools that ukraine as an entity doesn't exist or isn't legitimate. so i couldn't seeks to destroy ukrainian statehood. i mean he won't be chief, that objective in 2023. and with this continued global military aid, he will never achieve it. kathy lawler, with the institute for the study of war. thank you so much for coming on again for all these interesting insights. thank you for he was president jo vines administration is asking the supreme court to end an important restriction on immigration, but only after christmas. title 42 was set to expire. today. it's
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a pandemic public health measure introduced by former president donald trump, that allowed the government to turn away most people who requested asylum at the border to prevent the spread of co. but 19, the biden administration said it cannot keep this pandemic era policy in place. long term been conservative lead stayed. states argued that lifting it opens the flood gates as the fate of this law hangs in the balance. a surge of migrants are already crossing into the us every day. in the border city of el paso, texas, the mayor has declared a state of emergency. the delays to me so must conduct more. ah, the sacred heart church in battle. it's one of the oldest parishes in town. now it's become a refuge migrant have been gathering here every day to receive food and clothes and shelter in doors at night. andrea from venice, when i made the dangerous journey to the us with her 2 children,
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mother and sister. she is clear, she cannot return home and face violence and hunger. once again, you're by them, but i went hungry and i don't want my children to go hungry again. i don't want to tell them that there's nothing to eat. as i tell them there's nothing to eat. so you've vomited on me. i don't want to go to quin this way though. right now with this situation, i don't want to know more than a 1000 migrants are arriving in el paso every day from countries like nicaragua and venezuela. shelters are already overflowing and resources running thin official se . if the pandemic era policy title 42 was lifted, the number of migrants could triple. the pastor of sacred heart church, father, raphael garcia, believes the u. s. can accommodate millions of migrants, but it cannot be up to border cities alone. his church and local n g o schools are operating beyond capacity. the problem is becoming a big burden. in many ways, it's very inhumane how people are being treated here,
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this bottleneck, or this far all europe. that's what i like to go, because this is a point of entry. so unless you can move people quickly, you end up with a disaster here. a crisis here. for an in my cruise of the n g o border network for human rights. the crisis is a symptom of a broken system. ah, go welcome to a special edition of d. w. news live from berlin, ukraine's president vote him or zalinski is preparing to address the u. s. congress . lawmakers have gathered to hear him speak as he makes a surprise visit to the united states. the 1st times when ski has left ukraine since russia invaded his country. in february, he's been meeting with us president joe biden sharp support for ukraine's defense. and we're crossing live to the u. s. capital to hear him speak. have him. he's the live pictures you're seeing right now.
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the, me i'm, i'm you nice of welcome to the program. ukrainian president vote humorous lensky is about to speak before lawmakers in the u. s. congress, he's on a surprise visit to washington to the 1st trip outside ukraine since russia invaded in february. the u. s. is key of most important ally in the war, having supplied tens of billions of dollars in military aid. ahead of his arrival, the biden administration announced another aid package for key of cooney for the 1st time, the patriot air defense system. now we're crossing live to the u. s. congress. that's what you're seeing there. nancy pelosi and camilla harris. us vice president . we're going to washington, well, we'll be talking to
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t w's bureau chief poll to get an analysis of what's going on there. you know, thanks for joining. i mean, thanks for joining us. sure. we're expecting zelinski to give a speech now to congress. what's the significance of this speech? well, this is the opportunity for president lensky to address those who are not in favor of all the money, which is a sent to ukraine with a new come for new congress coming in place in the beginning of january. and might be much harder for him to get the funding. he needs to have a chance to keep kind of defeating the russian aggression. so he uses this moment to this speech, to talk about the situation in ukraine, also to think not only president biden in the lawmakers,
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but also the american taxpayers for the support. he definitely also will talk about the dire situation for ukrainians. right now, is the president by it and put it earlier in this press conference is saying a flood image put in the russian president is using winter as a weapon. and this is something you will talk about and also explain why these are patriot missiles, which she will take home are so crucial because that him you put in is a kind of bombing using airstrikes to destroy all the infrastructure, not only in care of but also in the surrounding areas, we definitely will also hear from him. oh how he thinks, how he is flooding. you're not letting me put in, but a president zalinski is thinking of either possibility or to end this war because because this is a discussion not only here in the us,
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but throughout europe as well. are there any options to get out of this conflict? president biden earlier said that he stays with ukraine as long as they need him, but we also heard in this press conference and little bit of a disagreement, or because there is no doubt that the president biden, other european leaders as well as fearing that the public support kind of will fade over the next months and maybe even years in, can you tell us more about what the lensky, what promises he's gotten from by and at this point on this visit? yeah, so president biden said really clearly we stay with you as long as you need us and he promised her or he actually said her that her the ukrainians can expect this air missile defense system,
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the patio system and and only the system as well as well. but also are the training which actually might take place in a germany. he also present by then also said that at the financial aid will continued learn. vladimir to lensky can expect some another $45000000000.00 or in the next weeks to come. so this is a lot of support, not only symbolic, but also really, really real, more looking at live pictures of the u. s. congress here we're vold amir zalinski, president of ukraine, is about to give a speech in see a vice president commer harris standing next to you as the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. there's a lot of commotion there. this is a big deal. i know that here in europe zalinski has become sort of a popular hero for a lot of people here. i wonder if it's the same in the us. what americans thinkers, lensky, you know,
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really depends whom you ask. he definitely impressed many, many americans are the way he conducted the war also the way he presented himself, you know, he lake came in this very simple kind of social like looking a closer day to the white alice. this is how he is presenting himself as vince months or we also have to keep in mind that he used to be a comedian. he's not a trained latisha whatsoever. and he really impressed many, many people throughout the world by his leadership skills. and so many people respect him highly here, but on the other hand, you have an increasing number of, or a rightly leaning republicans who say now is the time that we spend our money here in our own country. and dial back in supporting a war which might never end. right. and we're, we're seeing images from congress and i'm reminded that the republicans are about
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to take over the house of representatives, the republican party being very much against any kind of government spending, unless it comes to the military. that's where there's an exception made. usually, i'm, i'm wondering if i, if autumn years lensky can expect to continue to get support from the u. s. after republicans take over the house. yeah, and they talk, we'll take over on the 3rd of january. and so in the beginning of january, so this is probably one of the last joint, maybe the last joint meeting under the leadership of the democrats. and that is definitely the reason why lensky is visiting the united states in the end of this year. because this is the last time the democrats are holding and are you there because a cognitive timothy is about to start making and maybe you want to listening to escort his excellency that in me, of as a landscape president of ukraine entered the chamber. the gentleman from maryland,
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mister hoyer, the gentleman from massachusetts, the gentlewoman from massachusetts miss clark, the gentleman from new york. mister jeffries, the gentleman from california. mister aguilar, a gentleman from new york. mister meeks, the gentlewoman from ohio miss capture the gentlewoman. she's the gentleman from illinois. mister quigley, the gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy, the gentleman from california. mr. calvert, the gentleman from texas, the gentlewoman from texas. miss granger, the gentleman from atlanta. mr. rogers, the gentleman from texas. mister mccaul, the gentleman from arkansas, mr. hill. the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. fitzpatrick. the gentleman from indiana miss sparts met. i was that you said the president of the senate at the direction of that body appointed the following senators as members of the committee on the part of the
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senate to escort his excellency, blood, mar, zalinski, president of ukraine into the house chamber. the senator from new york, mr. schumer, the senator from illinois, mister durbin, the senator from washington, mrs. murray, the senator from michigan mas stabenow, the senator from minnesota. as clover char, the senator from new jersey. mister menendez, the senator from maryland. mister kardon, the senator from kentucky. mister mcconnell, the senator from south dakota. mister soon. the senator from iowa. miss ernst, the senator from missouri. mister blunt, the senator from mississippi. mister wicker, the senator from idaho. mister ish and senator from ohio. mister portman, the members of the escort committee will exit the chamber through the lobby doors.
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and if you're just joining us right now, you're watching the w news. we're broadcasting live from washington where we're waiting for you. creating president vladimir the lens happening un hungry matic. on a surprise visit to the us where he met with president biden earlier today. and now we're seeing images from the us congress where nancy pelosi us house speaker, as well as commonly here as us vice president are opening the thieves. and we're waiting to see if president lensky is coming in soon to address congress . will be talking to us bureau chief for
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d. w. in his poll about why what the significance of this speech is zalinski has asked for no more aid to aid ukraine. u. s. is the number one provider of aid to ukraine out of any country. and so that's a significant visit. it's the 1st time he's left ukraine since the war began. and he chose to go to the us to give this speech. so, we're waiting now for the lensky to come in. nancy pelosi has already announced the senators and who are present to listen to this speech and what's bringing in his whole d. w. washington bureau chief. again, if you can hear me, the significance of his visit is, has not been missed by europe. and can you tell us why he chose to go to the u. s.
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instead of perhaps a country within europe, which would have been quite a lot more safe trip for him, i presume. is a very, very good point amy and i mean, he really took this long flight over to the united states. and he didn't go to, for example, brussels and who could have also been a place to address or the european community, which is in support of him. why did you go to the united states? because up to this very day, the united states is not only the country which gives the most money in military aid, but it's with, with a with which is also the most reliable president via has said from the very beginning on that he will stand closely to everybody, miss lensky, and they provided, obviously a lot of money and military aid by the probably also a lot of intel. so this is also kind of
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a message is cilenzo. he is sending out here to europe, that he is not kind of trusting europe as much as he does the united states as for now. and this is crucial as well because congress will change or was in a little less air threat than 3 weeks. and the democrats have lost the majority in the midterm, so the republicans will take over. and that could mean that the support the steady support, which is kind of flowing since 10 months since of war started in february and might get smaller, might diminish. so he uses kind of this last moment under a democratic leadership to address not only those who aren't supportive them anyhow, but mainly for those who are more critical about they take of the united states. and it is also kind of an amazing swan saying of pelosi, nancy pelosi,
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who is in holiday eggs since some 30 years. and it's her last big a session since she is leading here. that's probably more interesting for you as american audience. but at this definitely is, is also huge momentum in her long lasting political career. and we're waiting for are you printing present, bought a mirror zalinski to come through this door. we see any moment now, i'm wondering what they discussed earlier in terms of how long they see the war going on. neither biden nor zalinski sounded like they were optimistic that the war would end any time soon. and it seems that valencia coming in now, so we're going to go live u. s. congress. seen pictures of move the lengthy soon to give a speech to the us congress.
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with a seems that zalinski hasn't made his appearance yet. it's, i can see p, buddha judge, these are our members of congress here who have just walked in. we're still waiting for zalinski, but you know, i wanted finish up with their question because it, they didn't strike an optimistic tone that, that the war be over any time soon. did they not? i didn't buy this is kind of the 1000000000 dollar question here. you know, for how much longer or will this war a go on some people say a zalinski might kind of talk about or to hold a piece summit. but he also made his crystal clear that he won't accept any compromises when it comes to the territorial integrity of ukraine. meaning that he is not willing.

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