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the 1st german pope in nearly 500 years but in his home country of all places, he was a divisive figure. some saw him as a hard liner. others just as the surprise of the century move in um noon. but well, he preferred to stay out of the limelight. he found himself at the epicenter of ecclesiastical disputes before before becoming told most

figures in the curio deliberately move in the shadows. they are not on tv. they are not pop cultural figures. graziano was different. he became a lightning rod for all the controversies in the church after the vatican council. the hero of the conservative wing of the catholic church, manned in a way, you're not saying it was like the darth vader of the catholic left. it was a fasting. he was seen by some as being on the dark side of catholic powers. but the world catholic youth so differently. his 1st big event is pope was world youth day in cologne. where his predecessor had enjoyed a status similar to that of a rock star among young catholics. the scholar use of running or had a different style. i

one man who knew use a flood singer for many years was his biographer, the american vatican correspondent john ellen yoseph financing does not last step to the spotlight. he is not terribly comfortable there. if he does not enjoy being on the public stage, and on the other hand because he was deeply convinced that the catholic church was facing unusually difficult challenges. and he was convinced that he had what it took to cope with these crises. what exactly were these crises and why did lasting or believe he was the one chosen to resolve them? ah remarks once wrote that it was man's social

existence to determine his consciousness. the search for what formed us if writing his consciousness inevitably leads to his native bavaria. his parents, appropriately enough, were called mary and joseph. ah young use. it was born in the town of marcus. i'm in on april 16th 1927. ah, at an early age you have had his heart in mind set and becoming a priest. his father, a police officer supported him later watching or would say that he learned a lot from his father's deep, sober face. ah,

he said, his mother, on the other hand, was more politic and warm hearted today, the house of his birth is a tourist attraction and the pride of the locals. i should give my, for most people, for market till it's an honor he's one of us is sick that he wasn't an quiet type of person, which is where today. he said, well, i especially like the fact that the pope is the very it gives me something to hold onto them. hold the years if remained close to his siblings, his brother georg, and his sister maria. ah weary it was his housekeeper until her death in 1991. ah, the 2 brothers were consecrated as priest together in 1951. they would meet up at

least once a year. all joseph's life o 2 thing is the oldest and best known place of pilgrimage for germany's catholics and bavarian, loyal to the monarchy of the house of visit. they're watching, your family made the pilgrimage here every year. and the moving company and i come from a simple background, hence people i love, most of the simple people. those with whom i get on best buy roots are in the bavarian country side for ah, biting. his language was simple and beautiful, like a wind swept bavarian landscape. one example is an essay he wrote about love in writing a view, the linchpin, the catholic saying,

ah love is the light she wrote. ultimately the only thing capable of illuminating the dark world over and over. and that gives us the courage to live and act. i want to invite you to make love a reality and to let the light of god into the world. ah right singers, love of poetic language, simple but never trite was already evident at school. a fellow student remembers at all sir foisy really enjoyed german poetry, ancient greek and roman poetry in his time at tom stein high school. stand along with classical and romantic german works out and he wrote poems himself at i'll say a bug, a dish, dip ah, elizabeth guzman lived in tokyo for years. but we met the professor in munich,

where she studied theology alongside wrought singer in the early 19 fifties. ah, it was the beginning of an intense and close friendship that endured for decades. you can legally chateau rosanna, you learned that since occasionally he would talk about his usa. he was an air defense volunteer than he did war time work service. ah. then he was in the army for a short while dear. and then he was imprisoned for a time and he was sent to the camp and thought i blankly, which was considered a starvation camp. i know this because my father was in bad idling too, and he suffered badly there to off was it? but he didn't really want to talk about it. we've always disc horrifying, routing or supported goodman's application for professorship and reagan board with all his heart. but there was too much resistance to

a woman getting the job. she went to tokyo instead, he would write to her about his frustrations as a teacher of dogmatic theology man zones figure is my work as closely determined by preparations for the curriculum whereby i take great pleasure from fundamental theology while the over filled department store of dogmatic theology is more inclined to get on my nerves and how's their dog matic off the nef good? especially when i have to hear my own fusions again and again in the envelope, often distorted in the most amazing way. wonder listen to owen, him for no one. mm. even critics of writing or use glowing terms to describe the early career of the highly gifted theologian as

a young professor. he took part in the 2nd vatican council in rome from 1962 to 1900. 65. the council was supposed to represent a turning point in the history of the church of major reform. john the 23rd, one of the more charismatic popes called it a join, a mental taking the church into the present. he called together all the bishops of the world to achieve this in the face of opposition from the most powerful doctrinal guardian, cardinal auto viani, who wanted the decisive ecclesiastical text to be adopted without debate. the hour of the german bishops had come led by the munich cardinal julius dip there. years of writing are and hands coon were 2 young theologians considered to have a bright future the arkansas to his market drop. so that was the 1st time we managed globally. she almost meant, i believe i am right in saying that we instinctively like each other hearted before

. for example, how to man 8 praised my own direct alice. while i admired his bavarian sancho, i will go for very that he was quite reserved. so to come as the world watched events in rome, the theological advisers of honor, king and writing are supported their bishops with innovative theology. instead of merely itching the past in stone, there was heated debate about the church, his place in today's world. because as he dollars in being the um, same cyber leave, we were bo hm. the same page despite our different positions and context context once seen. i remember quite vividly in aussie lakoff too. it was on a friday afternoon. i believe that got with don hall. i received a message from the secretary to catholic unity headed by cardinal b. diamond's in secret, as it were within a cradle that the so called declaration on jury. he was to be taken off the table at the council side. i rang roxanne and said johnson,

we must do something. tell cardinal friends. this is a dangerous issue with the natives. as i'm doing a couple of cardinals, we'll have to get in touch with the pope. otherwise the whole thing will be over. and indeed, we were successful. for my own part, i made sure the press was alarmed, and that was how we saved the declaration on jewelry to do you know the claim, dallas? get it to pull. the theological advisors gained an influence in the background. it was they who were pulling the strings for the bishops, and the cardinals. but even back then, as professor grossman remembers rattling or harvard, some doubts. this as this is sima the 1st time he came back from a session of the council. he went along with their talk to us, but then he thought about it and came to the conclusion that it was not right. that the bishops who were over the theologians in theory at least, should be taught by the theologians and then announced with the theologians said on in t alone been the that was when he started having to allison rusty to loza. as in the day, perhaps it was these doubts the turned a young theologian, a rebel,

almost the white hope of progressive forces in the vatican into a much feared conservative. in 1966 hands couldn't appointed his bavarian colleague to tubing in university. the theory survives to this day that it was joseph writing his time in tubing and changed him. but these were anything but harmonious years in the universities. 1968 was a time of upheaval. i bussey said, except that he was appalled by the student revolts gelani's. i burst into his lectures read rating parties, old coma. they also burst into my lectures ollie's and i'm, he was a more sensitive tie to teach up this week. i would defend the microphone with my

and while he would just stand there shot it by the secret, which is the reason i believe that he followed the call to reagan's world than ruth . nothing's work on going on with her. on the one hand, naturally reagan's work was in bavaria settings for a got what was more conservative, quieter than about his brother was there a lot. so was the cathedral choir that it was a different world year. we've always been in the vanguard of theology, and at that stage he took a step track closing the top. it sort of it so but it was not use of rotting, or who was changing. it was the times ah, and the renewal of the church he had so yearned for suddenly looked out of control the the moderate reform that rot singer believed and became a rebel.