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allowed ukrainian forces to determine their coordinates and launched the deadliest known strike of the war. among the blame game, vladimir putin tries his hand at distraction tactics. deploying a high tech hypersonic cruise missile system to the atlantic article for leon berlin. and this is the day ah, made that the discovery will, is the shoot. the sheila is equipped with the latest 0 con hypersonic missile system, which has no equivalent on all of you of mr. when you will you such a powerful weapon which will make it possible to reliably protect russia from potential external threats.
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while 16 through the wreckage of reinforced concrete structures, the number of that comb rates has gone up to $89.00 president and choose to in this for today because on russia started to tax to withdraw its troops from craig also coming up astronaut walter cunningham dies at the age of 90, it was the last surviving member of the apollo 7 crew. the 1st successful crude mission in nasa's apollo program. 500 years from now. there's only gonna be one thing that they remember about apollo and the man landed on the moon. that'll be it . oh, welcome to the show. russian president vladimir putin has announced the deployment of a frigate to armed with what he described as hypersonic cruise missiles. in a video link futon, describe the weapons as unique and without equivalent in any other country. is that
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the missiles would defend russia, adding that they are capable of flying at 9 times the speed of sound and have a range of over 1000 kilometers bushes defense ministry said the ship would sail to the atlantic and indian oceans and the mediterranean sea hatchet which i would like to stress that we will continue to develop the fighting potential of the armed forces and produce advanced models of weapons and equipment that will protect russia security for future decades. uses delete all of this, while russia's military is under fair scrutiny. as more details emerge of the new year's eve attack on its troops, the strikes on a temporary barracks in an occupied ukrainian town was the deadliest known attack on the kremlin forces since the war began. 10 months ago. moscow has now increased the death told to $89.00, but you, crean says, at least $400.00 russian recruits were killed. this is shooting unable to give me
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a commission is investigating the circumstances of the incident which are such you . but it is already obvious that the main reason for what happened was the switching on and the massive use country to the ban of mobile phones, women by the personnel that were in the zone of reach of enemy weapons done. they flock, there was a little this allowed the enemy to determine the location of military personnel for launching a military strike seniority of holder. and we can now speak to the fence expert marina miran for more dr. moran, welcome back to the day. so, russia's military command has come under fire after this attack, they had to acknowledge the losses, but are fairly reluctant to take the blame. who's responsible here? oh, it's very difficult to determine who's responsible because obviously the military command is trying to shift the blame to the soldiers saying that they have been using mobile phones and therefore gave away sarah location. i think the blame could also be on the military intelligence. lot were in,
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in the soldiers not to be in that building and counter intelligence. basically knowing that the grainy inside knows these locations and i think it wasn't very difficult to predict that the ukrainians might be able to strike those locations because they, i was in there range knowing that the gradient side as high mars. so i, i think, and there are obviously planning mistakes and it could be down to human error as while giving away is the location. it has been a problem for both the russians and the ukranian. so the very beginning that there were using their own mobile phones on the battlefield. and then, you know, you could look at the pictures and julio kate sam, and then that would give a weighs or positions. however, that being said, that the numbers that the ministry of defense officially announced have been obviously um, under asked me to just, you know, to prevent the public from i'm creating
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a panic inside the country because after, as than you, partial mobilization what, which wasn't very welcome among the population in russia and giving away the numbers and admitting the mistake would be again, something that would probably harm pollutants and the military commands image in the eyes of the population. yeah. as you call it, a panic that they're trying to keep at bay. there what would the effects of such a panic being for this so called special military operation. while russia has already for many years, been afraid of internal unrest or attain true unrest which are sponsored by the so called collective rest. and so they want to make sure to keep everything under wraps, how many soldiers have died and so on and so forth. and even if they have military setbacks, they're kind of the official m all these folks and general comma shank of he's kind
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of trying to conceal the truth and depicted in a very, very positive way. so that's the reason, the reason for people to go on the streets. obviously russia as a secure, to secure at the right state has all the means to control those kinds of situations . and, you know, they've been trying to kind of user intelligence services to try to find out whether there are any open in the regime and so on. however, it's still difficult because russia is so big to control everything is very difficult. so it's important will put in, not to, to lose his ratings and to remain in power. therefore, it's crucial to be able to control the flow of information and whatever people are seeing are there to be screens. and we had a similar situation in syria or russia proclaimed victory 3 times despite its military setbacks at the very beginning of this year in operation is also trying to
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divert attention from the saucer by funding a new generation of hypersonic cruise missiles to the atlantic. what can you tell us about the con system? well, m, the circle system, as you have already said, those are new hypersonic missiles that russia has been testing for several years. and the interesting thing about them is them having hypersonic speeds, therefore, speed of mach 9, which is obviously a around 3 kilometers per 2nd, which is obviously much morrison, a simple cruise missile. in addition to that, they have a heavy, 400 kilograms were had. and the same with those, obviously you can mount nuclear warheads on those missiles is the same with the likes of caliber missiles, however, is the interesting thing is they are trajectory which is different from, let's say, a ballistic missile. and they are for they are very difficult to intercept and say
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it has been a growing threat. generally speaking of proliferation of hypersonic missiles because there are no defenses because one a hypersonic missiles of when they flies a creed, applause mccloud, which consumes radio wave. so basically, you cannot detect them in advance and you cannot react to shoot them down. that's why they are so lethal. and russia is one of the countries that is the developing hypersonic missiles. the u. s. right now is testing some of its own, but it is truth. what put in says that basically there is no comparison as a state. perhaps china, however, from, from the western countries were still lagging behind and as the mean. so it is very disconcerting when put in is sending those hypersonic missiles all the way to the mediterranean. exactly. and what is, what is his intention?
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there is this just intimidation tactics? is he just taking them on a tour to show them off? is he planning on using them in the war and how could they be used in, in the war? i think one of the reasons and he's doing it now, obviously it's a way to divert attention from ukraine and to remind everybody how might he russia is. and it's also designed for a domestic audience to shows that russia is capable. and russia has weapons that nobody else has. and again, those missiles will be in the mediterranean, and russia has been interested in projecting power in the mediterranean because it has a naval base in syria in partis. and so i assume that that's where ra russian fleet is. heading in order to be able to cover is that part of the mediterranean, which has already got an area defense systems rush in air defense systems in place
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. which kind of limits need going proof of how they operate in and over the mediterranean. and obviously the proximity and givens a range of those hypersonic missiles. it is a direct message to the western allies, a basically to show that russia has the capability to reach him and they have no defense. the fence expert marina muran. thank you so much for your time and all those very interesting insights. thank you. ah, how will china as the easing of coven restrictions impact the world? only time will tell, but e u countries are astounding. the alarm saying they'd rather be safe and sorry, the european union is considering tightening the rules on travelers arriving from china. several e u countries of already introduce testing or other controls for arrivals from the
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country. beyond the u. britain, the u. s. india, australia, and japan are among those already restricting travelers from the chinese mainland. beijing calls the rules discriminatory shanghai hospital pushed to the brink. doctors working round the clock to save patients after the relaxation of the so called 0 cobit policy, lead to a spike in corona virus infections. yet even as hospitals strain, many chinese are heading abroad after years of not being allowed to travel stoking fears, that if a new variant were to emerge, there would be no containing it. in december half the passengers on 2 flights to italy, we're later found to have covered italy started testing all arrivals from china. as more countries joined in china's foreign ministry, pushed back all of them. what the entry restrictions adopted by some countries
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targeting china, lack scientific basis and some of these excessive practices. unacceptable. we have family opposed to attempt to manipulate the coven 19 measures for political purposes. and will take count images effect. it's unclear just what counter measures are on the table. but the patchwork of requirements has led to confusion as well. the voice is the family and when my brother, who has not been allowed to travel for 3 years, he is coming from china and didn't know anything about the testing. we had to tell him before he bordered to be careful because they were going to do a p c r on arrival. let me say about that. it's been 3 years since the corona virus started. it's trip around the world. and the end of the journey is still not in sight. i don't know now by paul hunter in, nor is he's a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the university of east anglia. welcome to the day professor. now we're looking at my travel vans restrictions,
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analyzing wastewater of planes arriving from china from your point of view, what measures would make sense at this point? i think most epidemiology sizes really understand that such measures have very little. ready they are pretty much in effective of controlling the spread of international infections. they are even before kobe. we knew that this was the case. there was a big review hall here in 2019, which concluded correctly that point to then click point vaccine screening for infectious disease were testing for the virus. all excluding people with fever are, is pretty effective. i know yesterday the, the european center for disease control. yes. to be put to risk assessment basically, but they didn't think the chair what's happening in china would material facts the academic in europe,
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l y r e u countries. and so many countries around the globe now going to be lengths and imposing new travel restrictions, especially on the people coming in from china when, when they oftentimes are treating the virus as something you know, that's, that's harmless. and you know, you as president joe biden declaring, for example, that the pandemic is over. yeah, i think, i think probably most, most of that is politics in terms of trying to convince your population that you're doing something useful to protect them. but the reality is, testing and point of entry doesn't actually control infection. we. we saw this at the beginning of the coping pandemic where in the u. k. eventually, we imposed control measures on people coming from china was at that time was probably reasonable, but they, the problem was the, virtually all of the infections that arrived in the u. k. came in from france,
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italy, or spain, that imposing control measures on a single external control country. it has never really worked in the history of infectious disease control. now let's look at the science of it all because we are looking at a significant number of infections in china, even though we don't have accurate numbers coming out of the country. how likely is it that new, more infectious and potentially even more dangerous cove at variance may surge or develop in china? i think, well, if that is always a possibility, i think the problem is at the moment the, the main concern for you are going to coming weeks is james b a, b y 5. eric, which is actually probably come in to the, to your, from the united states. and this has been growing for in the u. s. has increased from about 2 percent in texas to 40 percent of infections over the course of the
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1st 3 weeks in december. that is a, well is a very rapid rate of growth, is already here in euro increasing rapidly. and i think that that is the very, that is good to causes main most concerns. certainly, you know, and you very can arise anywhere. i think that the probability of a variance having substantial what we call escape potential ability to bypass, at least partially previous in unity, is more likely to arise actually in the country where you've got a lot of people in you heard optically a concerning a scale you may well is probably more likely to occur, arise in north america and europe, than it is in china,
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where they have the moment, at least they don't have much population in unity. so the pressure on evolving to escape that isn't as great as in china, but, you know, a certainly still possible would you say then that governments are missing the point right now that they're, you know, focusing so much on china that they're not seeing the actual danger of a new marion approaching from the other side of the globe. i think i think that there's a certain element of truth in that i think we, we don't know what's going to happen over to me. but i think that all the evidence at the moment points to this new variance that it will be my very was a say probably is come into your, from the united states and, and i think we need to be monitoring that more and we need to be concerned about what's going on in china, and that's not that. yeah, i said that is not a an extreme view because that is the view european centers for disease control
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readings. essentially what they said in their update assessment yesterday. we are a 2 and a half weeks away from china's lunar new year, and that is why i wanted shift our view back to china. even though you say there is no matter the more concerned happening in other places of the world. but it is pete travel season in the country and we're already seeing an incredible number of infections there. what will that mean for, you know, the epidemiological situation there? yeah, i mean it is very difficult to know what's happening in china, and there is some suggestion they academic is pete in beijing already, but whether that is true or not, it's very difficult to but i think there, i think the next phase of the chinese academic will probably be more as the, the infection spreads into those more room,
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more distant parts of the country that haven't experienced the full weight of this. they said to them, i think that we're likely to see at least in those countries that those parts of china that have yet to experience most of this in fact, we're likely to see substantial increases. i think in sessions as we go forward. i say it is, it's very difficult. never sir. what's going on, i think, is very clear that they are in a very difficult position. they are a goal, really very many infections going on. and they're probably seeing tens of thousands of deaths each day at the moment. so it is a pretty i thing i was going through a pretty dreadful situation at the moment. thank you paul hunter of the university of east anglia. oh,
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lovely, beautiful. now there's only gonna be one thing that they remember about apollo nestor man landed on the moon. that'll be it. walter cunningham there. at the last of the 3 astronauts who flew aboard the 1st crude apollo's baseline, the u. s. space agency nasa has announced that he died in houston age 90. early on tuesday, all 7 orbiting the earth for 11 days and 1968 and paved the way for the moon landing. one year later, the spacecraft was equipped with a camera which enabled live transmissions that were broadcast on television and even earned. nasa and cunningham and emmy award alice brand, keep calling editor of space raf dot com. he joins us from washington. d. c. good to see you again. cunningham himself. there we just heard him said that the only men will be that will be remembered, will be the men on the moon,
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but he won't be forgotten willi should won't. and i think, you know, people who have made history offered a very shy about saying that they'll be remembered, but he, he and his entire car drove astronauts will be american, russian, and other watch. what will his legacy will it you after the fire? which many of you will remember? i is young by. remember the pol, one fire with 3 asteroids died in a launch great fire. the impetus was to get the boon program back on track and there was going to of course be a 1st flight after that wire. he was part of that crew and they went up there and as was later described, their mission was 101 percent successful. so his job with the other 2 people in the crew was to show that, you know, we can rebound from a tragedy. get on with things in get towards the moon at. he briefly studied architecture. how did he end up piloting a space if?
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well, most astronauts are not what as you as a winter, coney, sure they have multiple backgrounds. but if you look at his background, he was pretty much a pilot and you know, he was interested in that. but if you look at what he was, he actually got his degrees and he was very much at astro, a flight dynamics as an engineer physicist and so forth. so that was his true look out for those of us who weren't around back then. can you tell us a little more about the mission? he was on apollo 7, which was as you mentioned, the 1st successful grew crude apollo mission. well, he was about 11 days long and the idea was it was the 1st time it was similar ways to what we're going to be doing. again with artemus where you're flying the spacecraft for the 1st time. except this is the 1st time the fluid with humans on board. and they were practicing just to make sure that all the things that would work, that the next time they flew it with the lunar module that that part of the system would be working. so like anything the 1st time you fly, a spacecraft is always, you know, things that go bump in the night so to speak. and their job was to make sure that
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everything worked and they were successful for the credit. apollo 7 wasn't happy, ship l, right? a ruler has a that the men making history. we're not having a great time up, an orbit it they, they were committed, their spacecraft was put that way. i mean a das and loaded them with a whole bunch of tasks. and again, was the 1st time anybody had done this and they did everything. and at one point to said, hey, you know what, we're gonna hold off of the television. we have to go do this other stuff 1st. and so again i, i give them credit for having done everything they were called upon to do plus, smiling and doing the tv thing. and coming back with every checklist i, on the mission checked the head of nasa. and i think you would agree with him there said that cunningham and his crewmates paved the way, not only for the moon landing a year later, but also for the artemus generation. that is just taking its very 1st steps at how exactly well, you know is she's funny. you should ask me all people. i grew up,
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i'm 67. i grew up during the apollo era. and a few years ago i was talking with former nancy minister job reinstein, and we were talking about education and outreach, and i said well ok, i'm the apollo generation. what about the art of his generation? apparently said it often enough. the jim said, yes, we should call it that. so i, i guess i could claim that i am, i coined the phrase, but what i was thinking and witnesses going forth with is, as i say, right out war, the 2 thirds of the people on this planet have never seen another human walk out of the world, so for those folks it's going to be like doing the same thing again for the 1st time that will, this will be their 1st lunar landing. and so how do you craft this program so that all them are involved in, inspired in moving forth as my generation was. so i think he's quite right and saying that the to probably wouldn't be anonymous if there wasn't an apollo. when we're talking about artemus, i won't let you go before i ask you, when will we see the 1st woman or person of color on the moon? on noon?
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i'm not sure, but they're going about to announce a crew that will go around the moon. you might see a woman, a woman, female, a color both or 2 separate. i don't know that i would say probably sooner than some people expect it, not soon enough for the people who matter. i guess i would say it soon would you, you will say, all right, and will bring you back end to talk about to keep counting editor of space rad. thank you so much. always a pleasure. my pleasure. and that's our time. thank you so much for spending part of your day with us. ah, ah, with
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