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concessions to far ra lawmakers. the coffee is the 1st handed in a century to face multiple ballots chide, but can not move on to any other business until a speaker. now listen, you can always go to a website to be found at d w dot com. ah, after more than 10 months of relentlessly pounding ukraine, destroying vital infrastructure and killing thousands of innocent civilians, vladimir putin has ordered his troops to hold fire. not for good, that is for 36 hours to mark orthodox christmas. his decision follows an appeal by the head of the orthodox church schoo outside the holiday season, staunchly supports pollutants attack on ukraine. officials in ukraine are unimpressed to them. there can be no truce with russian troops illegally occupying their territory. keep slammed the move as propaganda and says moscow can keep it to parker sea to itself. i'm to call for the him, berlin,
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and this is the day. ah, so with this morning, i had a telephone call with mr. poo to, to talk with, we see that russia has mobilized many new soldiers around 200000. that they have shown a great willingness to tolerate losses and suffering for these. and so far and you credit for the orthodox christmas, $106.00 of you on proven surgery. i think he's trying to fire smart. ah also coming up around attains a prom and taken to the notorious evan prison is video of persian cutlets seemingly . was them to the taste of the authorities as iran was marking the anniversary of an army commanders death and a u. s. drones strike?
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ah, welcome to the show. rush as president on ukraine. these fire will take place from the thanks to the 7th of january over the russian orthodox christmas period. the kremlin says boot and made the decision after an appeal from the head of the russian church patriarch carroll. in while the turkish president is hoping to facilitate a more lasting truce earlier to day ridge of time or 2 on called on food and to agree to a unilateral cease fire, he contacted both the russian president and later president zalinski by telephone. a turkish leader has made several such offers in the past and was instrumental in negotiating a landmark deal that allows ukraine to export millions of tons of grain. bruce, with food and calling rushes announcement hypocrisy, and demanding a full withdrawal from ukraine's occupied territories. mikaela polak, an advisor to the ukrainian president, tweeted the question,
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why will it be impossible to make a deal with the russian federation? answering that under the word talks putin and secure the absence of legal consequences for mass killings on foreign territory. he concludes it's fully an acceptable, a sentiment shared by men's global news. on the one hand, they've given their blessing to the world and to go to my view. and on the other hand, they want to present themselves as lane book, like a war against blood spilling beauty for one they would, but they should be judged by their actions. this would be for you to get that they'll do the same. you know, the 1st of december, there was no peace when we were bombed on new year's eve. yes, those were so let's, it's hypocrisy on foot inside of brooklyn. c wide world go was you didn't raska blue. this is just a pretty candy record which russia uses to present itself. is a country that wants to in the conflict without actually doing any figure in utah.
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so this is all a lie. so once again in my, in the morning, new government, i suited more of the one the more of them. so now the, when it's lots of talk about let's do that with dr. joe mcglenn. she is a senior researcher at the monterey initiative in russian studies in oxford from where she joins me now and darcy and propaganda. what do you make of it? i agree with the koreans in particularly with these voices that you, that you just interviewed. i'll get to the ceasefire one because it's not in their interests right now. their interest being of course, to save as many people as possible from a russian occupation and actions. there's been a litany of a failed ceasefire since the conflict originally begun. 2014, but also even stance is full scale invasion. for example, maria, pull back in march, the russians agreed as he's fire and then showed the refugee convoys. 3rd, i think that this even the author of those,
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he's fine. now this is part of the russian propaganda drive the idea that russians and ukrainians are both one people. and therefore they celebrate christmas on a different day. however, now increasing the particular this year, ukrainians are starting to re christmas on the 25th of december, just to cool. and then 4th, just the hypocrisy of economy. they do country kicked up their children, destroy their coach and tries to freeze them to death, show their critical infrastructure and then demand sci fi, if they will not much to evoke and to leave with ukraine, categorically. ridge bas, i think the probably will, and we need to think about, well, that she means maybe unilateral sci fi would be rather partial. i'm sure you to implement a sci fi, of course, show you is an army and not the only ones fighting yours have precautions newly
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released criminals. and do you have the church invite to sort of chechen brigades? and of course you have the dba, the dentist, people's republic, sorry, he has already said that is completely out of the question that his forces will be, will be following any cease fires. so already we can see the fine, perhaps the russian army will be shooting, but is plenty of other answers ragtag and see who will be. yeah. and with ukraine not being a part of this very partial. as you explain and unilateral cease fire at will ukraine and of course still try and regain its legitimate territory even in those 2 days with that the real aggressor? yes, i think it, i think it does. and i think that's part of part of one of the reasons why it's, it's in court and i think appreciate it as a general rule, of course, you know, the church recruit, the joy, joy is always better than war war. but at the same point,
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needs to be fought about the sort of supporting ukraine. but there are people in western countries or perhaps even politicians who think that it's possible to go back to some sort of status quo that existed in the 23rd of february. but that's the disco is completely chatted. it's not possible to go back that it's not possible to do business in order to trust him. there's not much to negotiate, i think, as the war ah, draws on and, and perhaps if the stanley is reached, that might be a different conversation. he does want to negotiate, and he called a russia today, before all of this was announced to declare a unilateral cease fire. he talked to the landscape, he talked to putin, and he knows though, that russia's conditions for talks are nonstarter is absolutely for ukraine. so where do you thing he plans to begin with quite sure where he will start to be honest. but i mean you've raised a really important point there. your question,
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which is the given piece, ends on sort of red lines across premieres as russian and given that russia never controlled a since i sent one. any of some hearts of suffer is your blood and some parts of her. so no glass, for example, mean this is just completely, is just completely unrealistic, completely impossible. nobody would agree to that. so really, as long as he's pushing that lie, it's very hard to see how he may say on the one side of his mouth. oh, yes, american to negotiations, but if that's the condition and then he then he's not because that's just not realistic. and of course the, like really think the anybody's in the mood for making concessions. that said, it's not a bad idea if we think back to the success of the green deal. it is not a bad idea to bring people together to, to, because it was, i don't, he's going to solve the war a kid perhaps. so there are so many contingent issues from the war a can solve some of those g
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ah, now to a change of hard ukraine will surely feel better about him will sent martyr infantry finding vehicles and a patriot missile system to help ukraine in its defense against russia's invasion, the u. s. is sending bradley fighting vehicles, germany by a cave, especially after france agreed to supply light tanks to ukraine yesterday. the as individual nato countries step up, their military support of close to take over ukraine in stoughton berg told an audience in his native norway that it was dangerous to underestimate russia. so listen to some more of what he had to say. sure that all the t a month. so the reality is good that if we want to peaceful negotiate solution, what you crank can remained an independent democratic weapons or the road to peace, hard volume to free up. although it is dangerous or to become dependent on authoritarian regimes,
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politics are also put the the thought of this whole is a more dangerous world. and it is even more important that we hold out yet stores hallman. and i can now speak to christine verbena. she is the managing director of the german marshall fund north and joins us tonight from washington this even for xena rance, the u. s. and germany are providing armored vehicles and a patriot missile system. how much closer are we to piece? all of these are really important to carry to get to a ocean table at the end. and those remarks that the secretary general told berg gave an odd low. today. there is a discussion for ukraine to have successes in order on the battlefield before you get to that table. and that's what these weapons are about. just where it stands right now and what's not being said, but what the undercurrent is, is that russia has to lose. this is something that, but he was territory. but maybe we don't feel super comfortable with the idea of
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rush losing. and this is really if false dichotomy, russia needs to lose. so that other order after is that want military might and power to be the defining feature on the world stage again. and perhaps china has been ukraine. fallout, which means effectively that marshall needs to lose tone because not using those words, but it's incredibly important for the right lesson to be learning, to be unity and not among even nato allies does there. what do you make of target offered to mediate and reach what are on is calling a fair piece? there is an important election coming up this year and president air to want to personally and for his party as well too. when you see here, i think a bit of the tension between domestic policy politic really, you know, at the election box and the big picture to be the defining feature of all
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nato ally leaders, political decisions and their strategies. but that unfortunately isn't often the case. and so, but how far that goes in each country and how do personal stakes and personal election outcomes, for example, the case of has been doing a very good job. i think that it is still fear fairly, you know, it's coherent. there are these, you know, bubbles in with turkey, playing a very unusual game, but not for the 1st time in history, between the alliance of such and russia. and when we look at, for example, to finish in swedish bid to enter nato, turkey seems to be also the outstanding country with, with hungry. but turkey wants to, to get his, the boats that he needs to show himself as being a strong after and not just a push or a push over or a follower in the context of the alliance, touched on
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a lot of topics today. he also talked about dependencies on all 3rd heron states. are countries in the you and beyond, in your opinion, doing enough to not repeat the mistakes they made with russia. there's a lot of really good rhetoric that we have seen after russia in terms of their or warning signs and you know, and your words are there, but practice really is falling behind. it is of course, very often economically, advantages are convenient, not to think about what you're buying when you're buying good actors coming to your country who could have had, at the same time, you do not think about what could happen to a merger or a partnership. people about how these things should be worked out, but it just opened up to the countries of the us. so to put this into place and one thing, and one thing is how do you do this moving forward? thing. ok from today, we're going to be more careful with a chinese investment, but what has already happened and that's to make sure that they are being as marked
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and forward looking for strategic reasons. and in the economic space on critical goods, materials, products, as they perhaps would like to be. and then there are countries that maybe are less inclined to be opening these books and looking, looking under the rug. and this of course, is that a complicated matter excellent analysis, christine bernardino, the german marshall son. thank you so much for that. thank you. for months after a wave of protest started rocking around, the regime has reportedly detained a prominent shaft known for his videos promoting persian cooking, nevada. every me was arrested in terran and taken to the cities notorious evan prison. social media user said the arrest coincided with him posting or recipe to make persian cut. let's jump from the revolutionary guards by the us. some are raining. protesters have been posting images of cutlets in reference to the manner of killing in the us drone. sturdy is released, a prominent actor,
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tara nay. ali dusty from prison on bail images on. twitter showed her celebrating her release. the oscar award winner was arrested nearly 3 messages in support of the protest on instagram before her account was disabled. and we can now speak to son of neurology under yesterday, tara natalie dos he was released from jail and immediately showed that she could not be intimidated. no job showing the victory sign to she's that i think it's certainly very courageous and certainly sat sign of defiance. so, and being such a prominent person, it's certainly, you know, it makes the headlines obviously. so it's sort of a message of strength and incredibly courageous, of course, as while she's out of prison. but that doesn't mean she safe. does it? what do you think is next for her? you know, people are released and then, and then maybe they're on bail and then they're taken in there's, there's a sort of an ambiguity about, about how people are really treated. and, and, you know, going back to, to the point about the celebrity chef the fact that we have chefs and directors and
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actresses and students being arrested. you know, you, teenagers being arrested and thrown in jail is really as an indication of the sign of weakness, of the regime. and i'm, and i think each of these instances actually gives in case of nevada every me because it seems almost absurd. that one thing would be connected to the other doesn't well it's, it's as in the social media sphere and it's, it's just this very sort of ham handedness of the only tool they seem to have is to, is to threaten and arrest it consistently seems to d legitimize them even further. so, as you said, you know what the younger generation has seen this, that they've been experiencing it for year 4 months now, and they're still out there. and her an alley dusty was held in the notorious evan prison, and the brain is now said to be there as well. alongside many of the detain protesters
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. what do you know about the situation at the prison and the conditions that people are held in? so a, in talking to some of the of the, there is, there were some reports it's, it's some, it's still a bit scattered around whether there's a harassment of women protesters, if they don't comply and, and that's something that's really important to be bearing in mind. we've had a number of cases of people coming out with, with obvious signs of sexual violence as well just today a 515 women because they want to have access to their own lawyers and, and a fair judicial process. so these things are ongoing and of course, the other serious concern that everybody has is the sentences of execution, that sentences that are being handed down. those that are, that are, you know, implicitly could be killed at any moment. and it's, and it's really important to keep the attention on those case these, these are all the concerns that, that are ongoing. and again, have been just tactics that, that, that the regime is trying to deploy to, to call the, the, the movement after
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a 1st wave of solidarity. it is now slowly dying down i to be honest with you, i think the amount map, sorry, the amount of international attention has been quite extraordinary. and it's, you know, not only in the cultural amongst politicians and so forth. obviously over christmas it died down a little bit, but i, historically, we have never had a movement, a revolution that has been galvanizing people across gender and ethnicity and, and 2nd and so forth on the, on the message of women's rights women, life and freedom. so this is, this is obviously something that is very rooted in iraq captured the world's imagination to see these young young people to see these girls out on the streets to see the boy standing side side by side with that with the women. um, i think the attention is still there and, and we certainly needed to continue to be there. we only have about a minute left, but i do want to ask you about your opinion. we're now almost 4 months and to these
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protests, where does the regime stand? i think we see it already the, the regime is, is struggling to know what to do. and, and they said it's a legitimacy question. and you know that the legitimacy has been waning over decades and in a way and, and now they're dealing with the younger generation that, that's out there it's, it's across so late and, and just extraordinary. mean, you know, over 500 people, they have been killed in, you know implicitly in a sense because of the of the, her job and now now we're seeing hominy come out and say something about, you know, if you're bad, you know, if you're wearing your manage all badly, it's not such a big deal. well, these, if they said this 4 months ago, maybe having lost credibility and legitimacy and, you know, and they, they have the tools of violence and they are using their own methods. so, and you'll have to lower their institutionally running out of time on an oregon, under laney, of the international civil society action network. thank you so much. that's our time, e tomorrow, if you'd like. ah,
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