alyssa, seek in the west, go to well website to be found at d. w dot com. ah, after more than 10 months of relentlessly pounding ukraine, destroying vital infrastructure and killing thousands of innocent civilians, vladimir putin has ordered his troops to hold fire. not for good, that is for 36 hours to mark orthodox christmas. his decision follows an appeal by the head of the orthodox church who, outside the holiday season staunchly supports potent attack on ukraine. officials in ukraine are unimpressed to them. there can be no truce with russian troops illegally occupying their territory, caves lambs, the move as propaganda, and says moscow can keep its epoxy to itself. i'm to call for the him, berlin, and this is the day ah,

with this morning, i had a telephone call with mister putin as we talked about the war between russia and ukraine in detailed dogs. we see that russia has mobilized many new soldiers around 200000 and that they have shown a great willingness to tolerate losses and suffering for these. and so to see for the person you credit for the orthodox christmas lunch on her 6 of us, your reactions are responding to improve service. i think he's trying to flash marsh ah, also coming up around attains a prominent shaft known for promoting persian cooking. now above abraham, he has reportedly been taken to the notorious evan prison is video of persian cutlets seemingly wasn't to the taste of the authorities as iran was marking the

anniversary of an army commanders death in the us. drone strike. ah, welcome to the show rush. as president vladimir putin has ordered a unilateral 36 hour truce in his country's war on ukraine. the cease fire will take place from the 6th to the 7th of january over the russian orthodox christmas period. the kremlin says boot and made the decision after an appeal from the head of the russian church patriarch carroll. in while the turkish president is hoping to facilitate a more lasting truce earlier to day ridge of time or 2 on called on food and to agree to a unilateral cease fire, he contacted both the russian president and later president zalinski by telephone or dawn offered to mediate what he described as a lasting peace, the turkish leader has made several such offers in the past and was instrumental in negotiating a landmark deal that allows ukraine to export millions of tons of grain and

cave responded rapidly to the suggestion of a truce with photon. calling russia's announcement hypocrisy, and demanding a full withdrawal from ukraine's occupied territories. mckayla po jak, an advisor to the ukranian president, tweeted the question, why will it be impossible to make a deal with a russian federation? answering that under the word talks, prudent expects ukraine and the world to recognize it's right to seize foreign territories and secure the absence of legal consequences for mass killings on foreign territory. he concludes it's fully an acceptable, a sentiment shared by many ukrainians, or deal with it shall be to leave the russians global. near. on the one hand, they have given their blessing to the war and to kill mcgee, new boot. and on the other hand, they want to present themselves as lane before, like a war against bloodless billing beauty. for one they will,

but they should be judged by their action. this wendy, it, keith, they still get that they'll do the same useful. i think this is what are hypocrisy special a little here near co edition of rural. on the 31st of december there was no peace when we were bombed on new york city, yet those were so we are live. it's hypocrisy on put inside of brook rossi. wide north go was due to the neurons cooper. this is just a pretty candy wrapper, which russia uses to present itself. is a country that wants to, in conflict or to without actually doing anything. you're a little unusual. so this is all the lie. once again, in my opinion, only above money, i suited more of the one the more because i can just say this drawing away that actually does continue to show us with drawings and other way pennies. lots of talk about let's do that with dr. jane mcglenn. she's a senior researcher at the monterrey initiative in russian studies in oxford, and where she joins me now. doctor rickland good to see you again. a 36 hours these

fire ukraine says it's all about grassy and propaganda. what do you make of him? i agree with the koreans and the ticket was days, voices that you, that you just interviewed, that you just read that i didn't see any strategical reason that ukraine should should agree to the ceasefire one because it's not in their interests right now. their interest being of course, to save as many people as possible from, from a rational occupation and execution. scott. secondly, i do think it's impossible to believe the russians. there's been a litany of a failed sci fi, a since the conflict originally began in 2014. but also you've instances, full scale invasion, for example, in mary pull back in march and the russians agreed as he's fire and then showed the refugee convoys heard. i think that this even the author of those, he's fine. now, this is part of the sort of russian propaganda drive the idea that russians and

ukrainians are both one people and therefore they send every christmas on a different day. however, now increasing the particular this year, ukrainians are starting to re christmas on the 25th of december just to create even more distance between themselves and russian culture. huge of course is, is understandable. and then for just the hypocrisy of economy, they did. country kicked up, their children, destroyed their coach and tries of reason to their show, their critical infrastructure, and then them on the sci fi, if they will not match their woken to leave with ukraine, categorically rich bas fees, fire and carillo call is rush. are going to go ahead with a unilaterally thing. i think they probably will, and we need to think about, well, that she means nothing to unilateral cease fire would be rather partial. because whilst if we look at the actual wedding, putin has, wouldn't, i'm sure who to implement these assays fire, but of course,

show use armies are not the only ones fighting yours have precautions vac bankruptcy the vac no mercy reason. newly released criminals and you have the, the tension fight to sort of chechen brigades. and of course you have the d n a elena fight is and already denise michelin, who's the head of the dumbass, of the people's republic. sorry, he has already said that is completely out of the question that his forces will be, will be following any cease fires. so already we can see that fine, perhaps the russian army will be shooting. but there's plenty of other answers ragtag and see who will be. yeah. and with ukraine not being a part of this very partial, as you explain and unilateral these fire at will ukraine and of course still try

and regain its legitimate territory. even in those 2 days. would that give russia a pretext to paint ukraine and its western supporter as, as the real aggressor? yes, i think it, i think it does. and i think that's part of part of one of the reasons why. um it's, it's included and i think the important thing here is, i mean, i appreciate it as a general rule. of course, you know, the church of crew, the joy is always better than war war. but at the same point needs to be fought about. i think there are lots of people in countries are definitely sort of supporting ukraine, but there are people who are western countries or perhaps even politicians who think that it's possible to go back to some sort of status quo that existed in the 23rd of february but that's the disco is completely shattered. it's not possible to go back that it's not possible to do business with it in order to trust him in any way. so there's not really that much. and now there's not much to negotiate,

i think, as the war ah, jewels on and, and perhaps it stanley is reached that might be a different conversation. but that's not the conversation though, that we're having now. but president or dawn of turkey does want to negotiate, right. and he called on russia today, before all of this was announced to the clary unilateral cease fire. he talked to the lansky, he talked to putin. and he knows though, that russia's conditions or talks are nonstarter is absolutely for ukraine. so where do you thing he plans to begin mediating as he's offered? i didn't know quite sure where he was starting to perfectly on his. but i mean you've raised a really important point there. your question, which is the given piece ends on sort of red lines as opposed to they were all the ukraine recognizes these sort of 14 plus premieres as russian and given the rushes

never controlled a war since i sent you on any of some hots of a supper is job lesson some parts of her. so no glass, for example, me this is just completely is just completely unrealistic, completely impossible. nobody would agree to that. so really, as long as he's pushing that light, it's very hard to see how he may say on the one on one side of his mouth. oh, yes, american to negotiations. but if that's the condition and then he then he's not because that's just not realistic. and of course, the line from kia has hardened considerably as well. we think back to march. so i don't really think that anybody's in the mood for making concessions that said i, it's not a bad idea if we think back to the success of the green deal. it is not a bad idea to bring people together to, to, because it was a job, he's going to solve the war a could perhaps. so there are so many contingent issues from the war a could. so some of those dr. deborah glen, as always,

great speaking to you. thank you and you ah, now to a change of hard ukraine will surely feel better about germany and the usa. they are prepared as an armored vehicles to ukraine. berlin will sent martyr infantry fighting vehicles and a patriot missile system to help ukraine in its defense against russia's invasion, the u. s. ascending bradley fighting vehicles. germany has been under mounting pressure to deliver battle tanks and infantry finding vehicles long sought by cave, especially after france agreed to supply light tanks to ukraine yesterday. as individual nato countries step up, their military support as keep the alliance as chief says, he believes there has been no change. and let him rear putin's goal to take over ukraine in stoughton berg told an audience and his native norway that it was dangerous to underestimate russia, said willis, and to some more of what he had to say. saw it only 3 of us. so the reality is good

and that if we want a peaceful, negotiated solution, when you crank and remained an independent democratic nation in europe, and we have to support ukraine. now we start to close level weapons are the road to peace, hard volume till trib. although it is dangerous or to become dependent on authoritarian regimes, it is about her security. business is also politics, odd, also politic. the thought of this whole is a more dangerous world. and it is even more important that we order the who believe in democracy and freedom will pull, stand together over the earth stallman. and i can now speak to christine bertina. she is the managing director of the german marshall fund north and joins us tonight from washington. d, c was for xena, good to see a thought broke says weapons are the way to peace. now that france, the u. s. and germany are providing armored vehicles and

a patriot missile system. how much closer are we to piece? all of these are really important developments to get to a reality that is better for ukraine, which is necessary to get to a piece negotiation table at the end. in those remarks that secretary general st oldenburg gave in oslo. today, there is a discussion of the fact that, yes, most wars and in the negotiation negotiating table, but it's important for ukraine to have successes in order on the battlefield before you get to that table. and that's what these weapons are about. there's a lot of warnings on, on what he said about having peace, just where it stands right now and what's not being said, but what the undercurrent is, is that russia has to lose. that is, is something that many was when western leaders around people or the world, or perhaps less comfortable with. yes, you cream should do well. it should have its territory. who,

but maybe we don't feel super comfortable with the idea of russia losing. and this is really if false dichotomy, russia needs to lose, so that other bad actors, ones that do not want there to be a rules based international order. after is that want military light and power to be the defining feature on the world stage again. and perhaps china, iran, north korea, can be put in that basket. they need to learn a lesson from how rushes attempts in ukraine fall out. which means effectively that russia needs to lose. goldberg is not using those words, but it's incredibly important for the right lessons to be learned. and this is not just about russia, but about everybody else as well. but there doesn't seem to be unanimity on that among even nato allies. does there. what do you make of turk is offered to mediate and reach what erred on is calling a fair piece? turkey, in a very particular position in 2023. there is an important election coming up this

year and president there to 11 personally and for his party as well, to wit and one where the president or the one flexing his muscles is on the international stage. so you see here, i think a bit of the tension between domestic policy politic. really, you know, at the election box and the big picture, it would be so much more efficient for the, the good of nato as such, to be the defining feature of all nato ally leaders, political decisions and their strategies. but that unfortunately isn't often the case. and so of course, there's tension across data was, well, yes, support for ukraine. but how far that goes in each country, and how do personal stakes and personal election outcomes, for example, the case of turkey play into that? well, that's a different story. how much does that weaken the alliance has been doing

a very good job? i think that it is still fear fairly, you know, it's coherent. there are these bubbles that come up across the alliance. and here, perhaps we're seeing one too, but we have been with turkey playing a very unusual game, but not for the 1st time in history between the alliance of such and russia. and when we look at, for example, the finish and swedish, big to enter nato, turkey seems to be also the outstanding country with, with hungry. but turkey wants to be strong in the context of nato and present air to want things. it's very important also for him to get his the most that he needs to show himself as being a strong after and not just a push or a push over or a follower in the context of the alliance. it's not ideal so far. i don't think it has hurt too much. stillberg touched on a lot of topics today. he also talked about dependencies on all 3rd heron states. are countries in the you and beyond, in your opinion,

doing enough to not repeat the mistakes they made with russia. there's a lot of really good rhetoric that we have seen after russia in terms of their or warning signs and you know, in germany, even the titan, venda, and the understanding of maybe it's not just about russia. some of the words are there, but practice really is falling behind. it is of course, very often economically advantageous or convenient. not to think about what you're buying when you're buying good from an autocratic country, but you're often buying relationships you're buying. perhaps the actor is coming to your country who could have too hot at the same time. you do not think about what could happen to a merger or a partnership down the line that you have been putting lots of new suggestions on the table about how these things should be worked out. but it just opened up to the countries of the us to put this into place and one law and putting it on the books

. and then and one thing is how do you do this moving forward? thing, ok, from today we're going to be more careful with a chinese investment. but what has already happened in the past few years. and it's going to be difficult for many countries to make sure that they are being as marked and forward looking for strategic reasons. and in the economic space on critical good materials products as they perhaps would like to be. and then there are countries that maybe are less inclined to be opening these books and looking, looking under the rug as much as many don't berg and others would like. and this of course is that a complicated matter analysis, christine brazil, the german marshal sun. thank you so much for that. thank you. ah. almost 4 months after a wave of protest started rocking around, the regime has reportedly detained

a prominent shaft known for his videos promoting persian cooking, nevada. every me was arrested and terran and taken to the cities notorious evan prison. social media user said the arrest coincided with him posting a recipe to make persian cutlets, just as ron marked the 3rd anniversary of the killing of general post them solem munging from the revolutionary guards by the us. some arrange protesters have been posting images of cutlets in reference to the manner of his killing in a u. s. drone strike in iraq. and this just a day after raining authorities released a prominent actor, tara nay. ali dusty from prison on bail images on. twitter showed her celebrating her release. the oscar award winner was arrested nearly 3 weeks ago. after criticizing a crackdown on anti government protest, she posted at least 3 messages in support of the protests on instagram before her account was disabled. and we can now speak to son em neurology under

laney. she is the founder and ceo of the international civil society action network . good to see you. yesterday tara natalie dos he was released from jail and immediately showed that she could not be intimidated. no, a job showing the victory sign to she, stan for a generation that has lost all fear of the regime. i think it's certainly very courageous and i certainly have sign of defiance. so, and being such a prominent person, it's certainly, you know, it makes that lines obviously, so it is about coming out and, and showing up a sort of of a message of strength. i'm an incredibly courageous of course, as while she's out of prison. but that doesn't mean she safe, does it? what do you think is next for her? i mean that this is, this is the way that the regime has always played that, that, you know, people are released and then, and then maybe they're on bail and then they're taken in there's, there's a sort of an ambiguity about, about how people are really treated and, and,

you know, going back to, to the point about the celebrity chef the fact that we have shafts and directors, and actresses and students being arrested. you know, your teenagers being arrested and thrown in jail is really as an indication of the sign of weakness, of the regime and, and i'm, and i think each of these instances actually gives more fuel and energy to, to the, to the protest movement. what can you tell us about the case of nevada every me because it seems almost absurd, that one thing would be connected to the other, doesn't it? well, it's, it's, as you said in the, in the report that, that this, the symbol of the, of the couplets is, is something that has been in the social media sphere. and it's, it's just this very sort of ham handedness of the only tool they seem to have is to, is to threatened and harassed. and, and, and, you know, use, use the threatened violence and it's a big, it consistently seems to d, legitimize them even further. so as you said,

you know what the younger generation has seen this, that they've been experiencing it for year 4 months now and, and they're still out there. and her an alley dusty was held in the notorious evan prison, and the brain is now said to be there as well. alongside many of the detain protesters . what do you know about the situation at the prison and the conditions that people are held in? so in talking to some of the human rights activists and others who are following these cases. so amongst the things that you know, there's over crowding. obviously there is, there were some reports it's, it's some, it's still a bit scattered around whether there's a harassment of women protesters, if they don't comply and, and that's something that's really important to be bearing in mind. we've had a number of cases of people coming out with, with obvious signs of sexual violence as well. just today at 515 women in a prison near carriage decided to go on hunger strike because they want to have access to their own lawyers and an affair judicial process. so these things are

ongoing and of course, the other serious concern that everybody has is the sentences of execution, that sentences that are being handed down. those that are, that are, you know, implicitly could be killed at any moment. and, and it's, and it's really important to keep the attention on those cases as well as the very long prison sentences that are, that are being issued. these, these are all the concerns that, that are ongoing. and again, have been just a tactics that, that, that the regime is trying to deploy to, to call the, the movement. is there enough international pressure, or do you have a sense that, you know, after a 1st wave of solidarity, it is now slowly dying down. i to be honest with you, i think that the amount, my, sorry, the amount of international attention has been quite extraordinary. and it's, you know, not only in the cultural amongst politicians and, and so forth. obviously over christmas it died down a little bit. but i think the appetite is there, i think the attention is there. and there is a real reason. i mean,

historically we have never had a movement, a revolution that has been galvanizing people across gender and ethnicity and, and sex and so forth. on the, on the message of women's rights, women, life and freedom. so this is, this is obviously something that is very rooted in iran and it's really critical to what's happening and you're on. but it also has global resonance. and i think that's what's captured the world's imagination to see these young young people to see these girls out on the streets to see the boys standing aside side by side with that with the women. um, i think the attention is still there and, and we certainly needed to continue to be there. we only have about a minute left, but i do want to ask you about your opinion. we're now almost 4 months and to these protests, where does the regime stand? i think we see it already the, the regime is, is struggling to know what to do. and, and they took a legitimacy question and you know that the legitimacy has been waiting over

decades in, in a way and, and now they're dealing with the younger generation that, that's out there. it's, it's across the country in different provinces, and their responses have been so little, so late and, and just extraordinary. mean, you know, over 500 people they have been killed in, you know implicitly, in a sense because of the, of the, her job. and now, now we're seeing hominy come out and say something about, you know, if you're mad, you know, if you're wearing you about her job badly, it's not such a big deal. well, these, if they said this 4 months ago, maybe things will be different. but i think that there is a serious issue around the regime, having lost credibility and legitimacy. and you know, and they, they have the tools of violence and they are using their own method. so. so if you, if you think about the charlie have dough situation and, and the closing our friends, you'll have to long, and they're institutionally running out of time on an oregon, under laney, of the international civil society action network. thank you so much. that's our

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