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i told to well known for ologist julian tank ah i've been physician welcome. our 1st guest to day describes the philippines as the weakest link in the region when it comes to standing up. the china president, ferdinand macos junior, has made his 1st state visit to beijing, agreeing with chinese leaders. she jim ping to manage their differences on territorial disputes. while discussing big business deals. the trip comes after american vice president, carla harris visited the philippines in november. the pair discussed new projects funded by the u. s. including more defense sites, claim moving ties with china to a higher gear. this was to philippine presidents explicit wish before he and off on

a 3 day trip to b. g. his chinese counterpart reciprocated, seeing the friendship between the 2 nations has always been a precious 1. 3 days ago, your father, together with the older generation of chinese. for this i made the historic decision to establish diplomatic ties between china and the philippines. you personally participated in it, witnesses some of the most important interaction offshore. during the dictatorship of the president's parlor, in the seventy's, an 18 year old marco's junior, already played a role in forging friendship. engaging with communist party leader molds are don't . but the philippines has also kept ties with us for washington. and you joint military drills like this, have been key to keep it strategic interest in the pacific. that decades old alliance fell into stagnation when former president rodrigo detector took office in 2016. during his 6 years and power detached, a sort,

closer relations with bay jim in exchange for investments, the new president says we'll pursue a different good friend to all enemy to none strategy. seeking to restore ties with you as while keeping the friendship with china. and just now begun my responsibility, but certainly my privilege to be able to continue that legacy to continue to promote the friendship between china and the philippines. marcus junior's visit comes amid on, resolved to rhetoric disputes in the south china sea. now the neighbors have agreed to set up direct communication channels to handle attentions. the, sorry, this while signing over a dozen deals that range from infrastructure development to the important after ryans from the philippines. come home, i a fruitful trip or for the president, connections between that philippine journalists other santos joins us here now.

berlin studios. so michael junior in bay jing and before that i find this quite interesting the us vice president in the philippines, but not by no, no, no, as we become anna harris. but let's look at what those 2 visits mean been. i think it's more of, you know, the philippines, balancing the tightrope of a relationship that it has with both china and the u. s. now, what did come out of harris visit state? you know, she visited palau on, which is a major water way. flash point in the philippines and made some strong statements about defending territories and protecting territories against neighbors. right. so they saw this, a lot of political analysts saw this as a message, not just to the philippines, but also to china. and then now you see the philippines going over to china for this state visit. it's more like it wants to be friends with both countries. definitely,

but the philippines seems to answer the question of how can you be friends with a country like china that is actively encroaching on your territory and contesting claims to territory, that is yours. geographically. this is difficult because the u. s. is so far away and they didn't send biden, as i mentioned at the same time the philippines has charter in its backyard. absolutely. and that's why it's also like it has been over the past years, engaged in so many territorial disputes with china, along with its neighbors. but unlike in the south china sea, which you refer to as the west, philippine c, i will not call it the south china sea, but the west philippine sea, the exclusive economic zone of the philippines, which all countries are entitled to within a certain radius outside of your borders has been encroached in by china. right. but, and we see where do we see our neighbors? our neighbors, like indonesia have issued very strong statements about will not give up even an

inch of indonesia yet. mom has like, had on, had, had, you know, encounters with china, in their part also of the south china sea that has overlapping claims. and here you see the philippines quite part about asserting its claims and how to, to china. i think that number one we, we wasted an opportunity with really that, that haig, when that awarded or that recognized the philippine claim on the west philippine sea as ancestral domain. ok, that was such a loss in terms of not upholding that. and that could also be a rallying cry for all the other countries in the region that have overlapping claims to the south china sea, which the china claims with that 9 dash line. so i thought that that was like, that was a wasted opportunity. if i may also tell you bed, the fishermen that i spoke to in the country when you know that have these fight offs with chinese ships. they said that when made us feel like we could be someone, you know, we're a small player in this region. and this country,

recognizing our claims, was an issue that we could stand up to someone like china. so while the philippines is doing deals with china, a lot of the big financial deals here. where does that put the philippines? historically strong relationship with us? i think there still a very strong historical relationship with the us that's. that's like iron clad with all sorts of deals that range from maritime security, military partnerships and economic. let's not forget the for the u. s. is a huge economic assistant assistance partner. yes. to the philippians, right. so i think that part is, is ironclad. let's also not forget the relationship. the marcus family has with the u. s. back in 1086 when they were kicked out of the country and ousted it was the u . s. that sheltered them and exiled for all those years before they were allowed to come back to the philippines from historical ties as well as economic ties there

and a santos. thank you very much for coming in and giving us your insights. thank you man. ah, the chinese are about to embark on some 2000000000 trips this luna new year. some old possibly, many of them will be carrying the corona virus with them. remember, this is the event that spots the 1st mass spreading of covered 19 from one. these are the latest scenes from an emergency board of the hospital in shanghai and it could get worse, epidemiologist say some parts of the country side haven't yet had cove. it out breaks. but with the travel rush later this month, the disease will find its way into every corner of the country. they're all just julian tang is an honorary associate professor of respiratory sciences. he joins us from last day in the u. k. we've got a massive discrepancy in official figures and independent projections of daily

deaths in china right now. since there are covered was dropped last month. the world health organization says deaths being under reported. how dangerous is the virus right now for the chinese? so this course has been around in other countries elsewhere globally, and the risk the child is really in the bone will population or hasn't been vaccinated within a very effective vaccine. well, they brought out in china. we know from previous studies shows relatively low frequency, probably around 50 to 60 percent c $98.00 minus the size of that seen. but of course, the viruses me too far beyond these original vaccine, so that the virus is not to be different from transmitting, but better maximum prevent most of your disease. and you predicted ami kron would be less severe and more infectious. how do you see the virus now mutating all moving ahead. once it spreads around the world again? well, i see exactly what it says,

even data from the us in europe and elsewhere. sure, the boss is actually bathing current immunity from national previous vaccination. but it's not causing more severe disease in those countries. well, actually with the m r and a buttons that work very well. the problem again is that you have more cases due to high transfer ability, you get more severe disease and more gas in those cool effects, a vaccination rate. so with the person very well. well, the vaccination right, is not good among the elderly in china or is it now and there are some cultural issues around i know from friends and colleagues in the hong kong where the elderly are more suspicious of the vaccine than say, west them is all about me causing that low take, take the vaccine in china. and on the topic of new variance, the w. h. o says the chinese coven data shows no new variance. and is that a big sigh of relief for their ologist for us as well?

well yes, but that's not surprising. this virus news, no borders, it's interest missing very quickly across the world from the even from the alpha. very. and then along with delta, now, i mean chrome is even more transmissible, but look, is less severe. so i'm not worried about the virus to say for the rest of the world . i just hope that the, the wonderful people in china can get good enough vaccines. it can you tell us, does the china, in your opinion, have the outbreak under control? well, i mean the rest of the world doesn't have the control either just living with it. so i think that's a relative comparison. i think what's happening in china is that because they delayed so long getting a good back seen into that population. the prices spread well beyond the typically see from the i've actions in the west to be controlled by those back scenes. so the

see a kind of double whammy with a delayed vaccination that coverage with a, you know, with a highly effective back c plus the ongoing taishan recall as items vaccine that mean. and she's and just tell me again, you mentioned you have colleagues and acquaintances or relatives in hong kong. how observant and stringent do hong kong as need to be right at this time with learning new year coming out. well, the whole is a very well prime for this. they know that all is opening this weekend. masking is the norm there. but luckily so far, the variance in china very similar to those 6 else class. i don't think that's gonna be a major issue, but they may get people coming in across the board. i get sick in hong kong as they have older abilities. and then at the house, i'm more been on the home health care system. the paper. well, just gillian, thank thank you so much for the insights and we really appreciate your expertise.

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