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[000:00:00;00] ah, he has long been nicknamed the trump of the tropics, and now brazil's former president jerbill scenario even got his own version of the january 6th riots short the date was a different one. but otherwise the similarities are striking. a violent mob encouraged by right wing leader to reject a legitimate election result, unleashing its rage on the institutions of power. it was an unprecedented attack on brazil's democracy, that security forces did very little to stop. all to narrow himself was watching events unfold from afar. trump's home state of florida, once again he's seen as taking lessons from the former u. s. president's playbook and speculation is rife about whether the brazilian riots were plotted with support of its original authors. i'm nicole freely, him, berlin,
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and this is the day. ah, what huffman did now was city was simply unacceptable. it has no precedent in the history of our country. ah. i think they are criminals and terrorists. this is an injustice. there were no criminals. here we would just protesting, we want to save the country. there is no precedent for what these people did, and that is why they will have to be punished. oh, also coming out,
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trouble at the mexican border, north american leaders are under pressure to tackle a surge and illegal crossings. and drugs and weapons smuggling can the so called 3 amigos come up with solutions on messages. this, if you're trying to leave cuba, nicaragua, haiti, or have agreed to began a journey to america, do not do not just show up with the board. ah, welcome to the show. after hire both scenarios, narrow election defeat last year, and his failure to acknowledge the results of the democratic process. fears were, he'd stand in the way of a peaceful transition of power. and understandably huge sigh of relief could be heard around the world when left us let us silva swore the oath of office on january 1st. that something was brewing beneath the surface. on sunday, just a week after lula became president, thousands of bull scenario does stormed government buildings in the capital.
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brazilian lula has called the rioters fascists and terrorists and vowed to bring them to justice. while the co attempt was unfolding back home. former president wilson are a tweeted from far away florida and he wasn't to blame. but what did he know? and what role could his ties to donald trump's inner circle play and all of this, many questions remain to be answered. but 1st, there is a whole lot of cleaning up to do after months of camping out in the capital. both scenarios, the pulses are removed on the all does on the supreme court judge. after inspecting the damage to the presidential palace, brazilian president lewis, the marcia alluded to, silva held a meeting with his cabinet on monday speaking, following the attack, he said those who are responsible will be punished. these are real vandals destroying everything in their path. we believe that there was a lack of security,
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and i want to tell you that all of those who did this will be found and punished lula accused law enforcement bodies of either being incompetent or compromised for allowing the attack to happen. he also laid the blame at the feet of his predecessor president jaya bol scenario. the former president who is currently in the united states, posted a series of tweets denied any involvement he said peaceful demonstrations in the form of the law are part of democracy. however, depredations and invasions of public buildings as occurred to day, as well as those practiced by the left in 20132017 break the rule he also wrote. in addition, i repudiate the baseless accusations attributed to me by the current head of the executive of brazil. as the clean up in the capitol gets and away,
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the brazilian flag was once again raised over the presidential palace. but the deep divisions remain across the nation. she ann jonty is a freelance journalist based on rio de janeiro and she's been covering the unrest in brazil the ann good to see. what's the latest? what's the situation today? hi, thanks for having me. and so there have been many rest today in brazil. yeah. from the military headquarters on where the provost and i are, the most traders have been camped for 2 months now. have been emptied by police forces. and about 2200 people has been arrested. and there are now in a police gymnasium stadium, a c,
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t would be searched and interrogated. i think, i think this is a, the main use of the day because there are a lot of investigations to be done about what happened to try and figure out what happened on sunday. and i think it starts with these people. and so this is when the investigation starts, these wilson recess had been camping out in front of army barracks for some time trying to push the military to stage a coup. were yesterday's events foreseeable? oh yes, i'm in in brazil. a lot of people have been expecting for this to happen for more than a year. the 1st time we started drawing parallels when they're political analysts, or journalists, or the a position or a member of the judiciary. you have started making parallels between the january stakes 2021 invasion of the capital in the u. s. and what could happen in brazil is
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not lost the election. so those comparisons started in september 2021. so and they have been made repeat. and for various reasons, it didn't happen until sunday, but a lot of people, yes, had been, had been alerting about this. and there be questions about how this was able to happen. authorities knew that there would be that they had been coals for several days for a big protest approvals now. protest in brazil. yeah. dozens of buses have been coming from all over the country from different states to brazil, yet they also knew about this. they knew that the people that the protest is where working on that day towards the 3 how, where, where you have the, the presidential palace and congress and supreme court all in one best square. so they, you lots and somehow this was still able to happen. so in many ways, yes,
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this was foreseeable. it was really striking to see the passivity we saw from parts of the security forces. right. and a lot actually talked about it being either incompetence or complicity. how big of a grip is supposed to nora have on the security apparatus of brazil? i think he's to re key. i'm no enforcement part of no enforcement. obviously, i have been said to be, you know, somewhat biased and pro, you know, both in, at all um, but, but you know, they're investigations that are ongoing and it's, it's, it's hard to say exactly what went wrong and we can, you know, looking at what happened in the us, the investigations recently ended, so it takes a while to be able to put the blame on, on specific entities and people. but the images that we so from sunday of
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some police officers just looking at protests, there is marching towards this, you know, public buildings doing nothing and sometimes taking pictures and just filming, with their phones. the ongoing process are very disturbing. and, and i don't think anyone thinks that the media tree is interested or is going to go for, you know, supports even a qu, but, and, but there are questions about how much law enforcement could have done on sunday. what they didn't do, why they didn't do it. and what orders came from the, from the public security secretary of brazil. ya and the governor of brazil. yeah. who again, where aware of the ongoing protests and perhaps didn't prepare well enough for, for his day. and it's worth saying that the head of public security in brazilian
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capital was born and i was former justice ministry who had just taken back his old drug. so there are different questions thereabouts. identical alignments, within, you know, enforcements, and, and public security officials and questions certainly about what both scenario new, even though he's in florida. dion shauntay, journalist based in rio many thanks for your time. thank you for the leaders of the united states, canada and mexico have all condemned what they called attacks on brazil's democracy . the joint statement came ahead of talks and mexico city between you as president obama and canadian prime minister just trudeau and their host mexican president, undress, manuel lopez, a red door north american leader summit is expected to focus on economic issues and climate change, but also the situation on the us mexican border on his way to mexico city biden
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stopped in el paso, texas. and this was his 1st trip to the border as president, while campaigning me had promised to make immigration a top priority. the number of migrant crossings and apprehensions has risen dramatically during biden's 1st 2 years and office is also concerned about an increase in drug and weapons smuggling and human trafficking across the u. s. southern border migration will be a 10 full issue at the summit, but there are other big problems facing the region. democracy and freedom of speech, for example, the w's, curly net, you more reports. this is still biden's, 1st trip to mexico, as a president. his agenda for the north american summit is clearly driven by issues that are important at all. they're important agenda. 3 big topics. climate change, migration, and, and drugs, particularly fentenol in the presence, looking forward to addressing all 3 in the streets of the mexican capital. opinions about his visit are mixed with. right. okay, well,
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i would have to focus on economic agreements that benefit all 3 countries was like on a merely lustrous basis for carrying it's unfair. he's closing his body and leaving all my grants in mexico. i don't care about politics, it's dirty professor on bethel, beck is worried about the path. mexican democracy is taking liberty men, or you can heal if the 1st is the relationship between the mexican state and the armed forces, which have increasingly broader functions beyond the military strategy. well, that is the 2nd is the fight that the current government has waged against the independent electoral authority, which would imply a diminution or even disappearance of the autonomy of the electro body that would insect benefit the party and power. the sarah is the 3rd is that president lopez abra door has adopted a polarizing discourse that actively stigmatizes his political opponents as enemies of the country. soon in a polarized society, independent media is crucial. but being
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a journalist in mexico is dangerous. more journalists have been killed in mexico in 2022 than in any other country in the world. most of the victims are from local media outlets. this is the 1st time that a journalist has been directly attacked in decades in mexico city. his name is cedar gomez labor. he is one of mexico's most famous anchors. he was shot several times on his way back from work just before christmas board, a portable night of believe that it, it would launch mattie, the honor stopped the shots. i leaned to the right, i tried to lower my head, i could see the motorcycle, the hedge, and sylvia, and from the center they shot at me hitting the windshield, made i know that they wanted to kill me, but i don't know who or why me and i have to live with that uncertainty. someone tried to kill me, and 3 weeks later i was still don't know who or why not have a good point name for democracy. and freedom of speech are usually important pillars when by an addresses for a nation's,
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the tear at the summit in the presidential pallets in mexico. they are apparently not on the agenda and join now by christopher 17. he's a senior research fellow for latin america at the us and the america's program at chatham house. good to see you. it's the 1st time x. it goes hosted a us president in 9 years. where does the bilateral relationship stand? it's very difficult. um, as your report mentioned, there are a number of issues that are important to them that states migration obviously that's become really a 3rd rail if you will. and us politics right now, that has really been dominated by republicans and serv, siena phobic elements within the republican party. and right wing media, i'm really complicated. i have more institutional method to resolve. it is also the issue of drugs fentanyl now, it's not just obviously marijuana. cocaine is fentanyl and opioids. the come across
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the border over 100000 people died. fentanyl overdoses and opioid overdose is the last year. um. but then there's also the issue of democracy in economic development and the u. s. needs mex yost, cooperation on the 1st 2 issues, migration and drugs. and but for mexico, a large issue is going to be economic development. u. s. assistance investment is going to be key, as well as the issue of democracy as your interview set in very good interview on the issue of the armed forces, the independent electoral authority and freedom suppression. the us really can't push on those issues precisely because it needs mexico to sort of stop immigration at the border. and it's now sort of claiming that it's going to get if any of the 4 countries that are now going to be included in what's called title $42.00, which is a element that allows us to reject undocumented immigration on ogden, documented immigrants from, well now actually they'll have to become come through the countries and haiti, cuba, nicaragua, and venezuela. and if they don't, they're counting on the mexican authorities,
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stop them at the border and hold them there. and by the same token, obviously, the drug issue, the, the mexican government just arrested the, the son of al chapo. oh, video. ah, and does it produced a massive wave of violence in that state of sinaloa, but the u. s. is counting on mexico to combat this so really can't raise the issues of democracy because it doesn't wanna effectively anger amola who has a very thin skin, is very nationalistic, and is really very much engaged in a very autocratic political project yet. and their interaction so far seemed and purely transactional, hadn't named joe biden as someone who always has it's very important to meet face to face, you know, to, to men tie it into forage, a connection at. so what about the 2 leaders personal relationship? it's funny as much as trump was the quote for you as president donald trump was offensive in his rhetoric, talking about mesh, he was going to build a wall. i'm actually going to pay for it. and all sorts of racist rhetoric about mac is the truth is, is in some ways, despite donald trumping of the extreme, right. and, and analog being of the left,
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they actually got along in some ways because there's a certain transactional relationship there that really doesn't exist with joe biden on job. i'm isn't willing to, to sort of on trade some sort of things just to get some concessions and he's, he's up to be quite frank. he's, he's less of a bully. the donald trump was an analog at a certain level, i think understood that and respected as, as, as a fellow populous demagogue if you will. um and of course, joe biden has to raise issues of trade as well. right now, for example, wasn't mentioned in your report, but there's a huge trade dispute between canada and the u. s. with mexico over recent laws that favor a mexican energy companies of the provision, electricity and energy. generally that actually break with climate change concerns as well as break with the nav to the former and after north american free trade agreement, now called u. s. m. ca, i'm that, it, that, that has to be dealt and basically, m low as has said that he will pull out of nafta, threaten to pull out of nafta, the free trade agreement. if the u. s. doesn't respect their autonomy to set their energy policy policy. so there's a lot of conflicting issues right here. it's
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a very delicate dance between these 2 men. oh, we only have about a minute left, but i do want to know if you expect any major announcement to come out at the summit. i don't think so if was over the announcement on the brazil was very pause again. that is a sure is demonstration of solidarity and he'll be some improvements on, on a migration i think mexico will probably agree to cooperate than i said. so migration. i think the rest of, of ill chapa's son is a demonstration of mex wants to do a lot more di, recognize that needs do a lot more in security. other than that though, specially on trade and investment. i don't expect much, christopher sabatini, or chatham house. thank you so much for your time tonight. ah, ukraine has bolstering its defenses around the eastern town of won't after days of relentless attacks by russian troops. moscow has shifted its focus to the nearby
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town of sola dar and effort to cut off back moved from the north. this part of the don bass front has seen some of the most prolonged finding. the war. russia has been trying to break through the cranium defenses around behind for months at a cost of heavy casualties. ukrainian, president volunteers, lansky says his troops are holding on but admitted the situation there remains very difficult. while the finding rages in the east of ukraine, the vice president of the european commission funds 2 months was in a capital case today for talks with ukrainian leaders. he spoke about the support for the country with our correspondent market executive, vice president of germany and france. last week announced that they will be sending taxi ukraine on top of that. germany has promised a patriots here, defense system. these are things the key if the government has been asking for quite some time. now, do you see this as a signal that you government are willing to do more to support ukraine's fight
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against russia? well, i think the ukraine deserves all our support. also, militarily, because the brutality with which russians are operating has no bounce. so you know, this is not just a war about ukraine, this is not just russia trying to grasp territory from a neighboring country. this is a war about the future of europe. this is a war about the future of democracy, v autocracy, and the fact that the ukrainian people fight with such determination and such passion for their freedom. it should be a clear signal to the european union that we should support them with every means we have. so i think it is a logical step undertaken by france, germany and others, to support ukraine militarily. with these armored personnel carrier is the support enough, though we're just weeks away from the 1st anniversary of the full scale invasion of ukraine. many here in the city and fear that the bill of roost uses the staging ground for
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a 2nd attack as an attempt to take you is that you do enough. what i think, you know, the, you know is doing enough. but that might be more needed in financial support. we are now at a total of $38000000000.00 euros. 18000000000 for 2023. it's not enough to cover all the costs, but it's a very, very good step in the right direction. and we hope we can convince other potential donors to step in as well. you know, for us, ukraine, losing this war is simply not an option because it's also about our way of life and our freedom. so if more is needed, you will step in and you know, we are now doing more than anybody had anticipated before. and as the situation progresses, you stands ready to do more of that is necessary. and i see also determination all our capitals, including in berlin to not abandon ukraine in this, in this epic struggle. you mentioned that you,
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you have pledged millions of years in military aid emergency aid, but for how long can they sustain it in light of the economy might have inflation like rising energy cost? well, i think we, the only way we can get out of the situation is if russia understands that we are willing to stick to ukraine and that we are willing to do whatever it takes. and as long as it takes to make sure that ukraine comes out of this victorious so all the other considerations i think are less important than the consideration that this is about europe's future, about europe's freedom and about europe's democracy. and i think, you know, high energy prices, these prices will remain high as long as put him in a position to blackmail people with his energy. nice price remain high as long as we have not made the energy transition we need to make. and, you know,
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giving in to put ins aggression is absolutely the wrong answer to this challenge. ukraine wants to become part of become a member of the european union. was granted candidate is last year. is there anything you can tell us what to expect for 2023? are there any concrete steps that you can? so we need to under stand that by saying to ukraine, you will become member of the u. the u is also taking a different course. and this has to be digested in all of our member states. this is really something that will like the enlargement in 2004 will change the nature of the european union. secondly, to prove that this is not just politics, not just talk. we need to show in the immediate, what we can do to bring the ukraine twin ukraine closer to the european union. and i think if you look at what ukraine has done in the last months in terms of adopting legislation, that is in line with the 7 requirements that were set up for the candidate status.
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that is in line with this process towards membership of the you, we should respond to that by saying to ukraine, okay, you've adopted this legislation now in the coming years. we will help you implement that legislation and we will give you support to make that implementation successful. exactly, in the same way we did after 989 with the countries that have been members of the use since 2004. this pre accession process is going to be extremely important. but we need to get started with it immediately. concretely, especially in the energy transition, we need to show solidarity with ukraine. we need to make them part of the future hydrogen economy of the european union. ukraine is ideally placed to be a huge producer of green hydrogen and of bio me thing to commodities that will be essential for europe's clean economy. of the future. ukraine become a member of the european union with when they are still rushing around. and all that is not possible about the whole idea is to make sure that ukraine comes out of
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this conflict. victorious, sovereign independent, free and has the opportunity to make this choice itself. and i think ukraine is fighting to make this happen. the european union should support ukraine to reach our goal. and once once i call has been reached, ukraine has incredible future ahead of itself because the population has shown such courage, such determination and such unity. nothing is impossible for a free ukraine vice president. hm. us, thank you very much. it was my pleasure. i was executive vice president of the european commission funds. tim, i'm speaking with g w, a correspondence marks on that end, keith. and with that, we've reached the end of the day. we're back tomorrow. in the meantime, make sure to stay in touch on our team on twitter. that's either way, news and myself. nicole underscore for the now from the entire team and the newsroom. you so much for spending parts of your day
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