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tv   The Day  Deutsche Welle  January 19, 2023 1:02am-1:30am CET

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fog smoke and screams, that's i. witnesses describe the scene at a helicopter crash in the suburbs of keys today in the wreckage. 14 debt, including a senior ukrainian minister, another tragic loss of life in a nation. desperate to end russia's war to tip the scales, ukraine's landscape is pleading for german made battle tanks. he was listening for the go ahead from the german chancellor. in daniel's today. he didn't get it. not yet, at least on public foliage, in berlin. and this is the day ah, we are continuously supplying you green with large quantities of palms in close consultation with all part of supplies with another doing something just players. together with other la trudy.
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germany can be flexible. we can be on bureaucratic and we can be taught to me also coming up on the move fleeing russian missiles in ukraine had the world is responding to the fastest forced population movement since the end of the 2nd world war. people are moving constantly with the bombardment that continues to happen. the war continues to re john and it moves. people are moving well to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states and around the world. welcome to the day we begin with more casualties in ukraine this time striking the highest offices of government. early on wednesday morning helicopter crashed just outside the capital key. officials say it a kindergarten and an apartment building as it came down,
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killing at least 14 people. among the dead was ukraine's interior minister denison . on astir ski, he's the most senior official killed since russia invited nearly 11 months ago. of building a blaze, moments after the crash emergency services will quick to the scene. it's not yet clear what caused the helicopter to full from the sky. that the moment was won't be no. what present is that the helicopter fell to the ground between the kindergarten on a residential building in the town of brewery was awarded to put the issue on board . the helicopter operated by the state emergency service use was where 9 people was among them. the leadership of the interior ministry. sort of me get of islamist. absolutely. she's role interior minister denise modesty ski as well as his deputy and other officials are among the dead away. they were believed to be on their way
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to the front line. when the helicopter came down in foggy conditions, one eye witness said that the pilot seemed to try to avoid buildings as the helicopter came down. if you're going to love you. so my think that he chose the smallest target those moves, but because there was a 2 story building there. and here there were 10 floors. you owe the pilot made heroic effort. you had, you didn't give you both to. he flew the helicopter to the smallest place, he did the best he could with the member investigators already looking into the incident which presidency lensky has dubbed a terrible tragedy. all right, we'll enjoy now by in a south soon. she's a member of the ukrainian parliament and the deputy leader of the liberal hollows party. welcome to d w. so it's yet another sad day in ukraine with the loss of interior minister, dennis monasteries,
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ski and 13 others tells your reaction to this tragic lina, i 1st read the news that a helicopter crash the kindergarten in rub area, which is very close to key of her and, and my 1st reaction at 1st i record of the mother. i was thinking about those small kids in the kindergarten and i was, i was this close to running to the school where my son is to double check that he is okay. i think that his erection, that to any of our viewers will, will, will feel the same. and then 20 minutes after that to we started hearing rumors that so the main us of interior might have been in that had a culture. and then we were eliza situation was even worse because basically the whole leadership of the ministry was in that had a corporate her. and as of now, it is confirmed that 14 people together have been kildere and included as small kid with her mother who went to the kindergarten. this tragic morning says this whole is heartbreaking. denise was one of the good guys. he was
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a very decent to have her son, a true patriot term at dentist. so that is the minister and, and of course it just show control of us who knew him, but also to the whole country, which was thought into recover pro from the recent attack. and me pro, aware of afforded people have been killed as a result of the attack on the residential building. and then suddenly this comes and, and i think the whole countries is in shock. and in the morning and of course, yeah, trulia trogie, anna comes, as you mentioned, they're just off to that tremendous loss of life in the pro, after a russian missile attack, there's obviously so much deep anger towards russian forces. tell us how these almost 11 months since the russian invasion witnessing tragedy after tragedy are affecting when, when, when i think that people get used to terrible news. but i'll tell you this. we don't, every time something like this happens, we're still in shock. i'm falling my, my social media,
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i'm talking to my friends to my family. it's still shock. he'll never get used to that to this loss of life, which makes no sense just because some crazy person in kremlin decided that he can take the lights of the craniums. so it's not something you get used to, but it's something that does make you stronger and more determined. i think i was mostly shocked today with a small, very short video regarding where that helicopter crest happened. it was that of the teenagers, 1314 years old boys who skipped classes in their school. and they ran to the kindergarten to take care of the small kids who and their brothers sisters just small kids. and they brought them candy and try to, you know, to distract them from the terrible tragedy that i experienced. and i think that tells you something about the strengths of the whole people. so that is something they will learn to do and also likely our friends,
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our allies have learned that they need to be helping ukraine as well. that its own way to stop this terrible massacre from helping from happening. so well, let's talk about you recently wrote a gas column for the german newspaper developed and laid out the case to send leper tanks to ukraine with all the discussions this past week. and those coming up. how confident are you now with that ukraine will get them? well i, i believe that we will get them that this delay in taking this decision, unfortunately, cost us hundreds of lives. when need those times it goes tanks is something that the army needs in close gone. but as we are in right now, i give that to him and he doesn't want escalation. sorry, it doesn't work anymore. look at the lives of the people whose lives have been destroyed in a tech and me pro. that is as escalation as you can get it kind of get any worse. but what we can do with tanix is actually to liberate our territories. bush rations
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away, push them further and let people have their lives back at the. and the thing is the german actually has the biggest stock of tanks on europe, ian continent. and it's not because of any historical references for anyone else. it's simply mathematics. germany has the, the x axis to the biggest number of tanks, which are available. those are the best fit times for ukraine. ab everett says that the united states have unfortunately, they need very expensive jet fuel that would be close to impossible to operate any crane. so we do hope that germany will be on the right side of history here, and we'll take this decision as soon as possible because, you know, yeah, it's just that, unfortunately, in this situation it's not like we're trying to twist their arms, but germans just have the biggest number of times available in a socio member of the ukrainian parliament. thank you for joining us on d. w. thank you've heard me well,
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air seeming world away in the swiss mountain resort of diverse to ukraine conflict remained front and center at the world economic form. today, the program included a much anticipated appearance by german chancellor, olaf schultz. and during a speech sholtes pledged his country's ongoing military support for ukraine. berlin is under international pressure to allow the transfer of german made leopard battle tanks to ukraine. there were some hopes for a big announcement, but sholtes remained silent on the issue. so here is more of what the chancellor did say. russia has already failed to completely in reaching its imperialist goals . ukraine is defending itself with great success and impressive courage. a broad international alliance let by the g 7 is providing the country with financial, economic, human, italian, and military support. germany,
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a long made available over 12000000 euro last year. and we will continue to support ukraine for as long as necessary. but in order for the war to end russia's aggression must fail. that is why we are continuously supplying ukraine with large quantities of arms in close consultation with our partners. while another highly awaited speaker today was the ukrainian president vladimir lansky, who delivered a virtual address to the form from keith. after leading a minute of silence for ukraine's war dead, zalinski called on western partners to move with speed in delivering military a to ukraine. he said the supply of air defense systems must outpace russia's ability to carry out attacks and stressed that decisions have to be made much faster. here's more, the entire pre roll uses to see you later.
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your brain assisting for almost a year. this proved all our prompt actions brought to resolve the military, women, all our and join the supplier. you play with your new fast systems. my old piece ross has silent supplies away from 10 months out to be another invasion. all right, let's bring in boca, let's say to us, he's a senior fellow at the center for european policy analysis and an expert on ukraine and russia. he joins us from the spanish capital, madrid, welcome to d w. so germany appears ready to give the go ahead for that for tanks. how much of a turning point would that be in the west support for ukraine? i think will agree thing. first of all,
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i think this is necessary that you get to be confirm. we'll see the decisions on, on friday at the wrong thing meeting. but it's not necessary. i'm afraid it because your grade needs much more to basically do 2 things defend itself from, you know, i don't going russian aggression and we will see more of your, from russia. so i don't think show was entirely red when he said russia build a strategically russia building 22, the will see 2023 and 24. so you grant needs much more to this in itself. and 2 needs much more to lever it is $33.00. and basically keep the rational auto ukraine which will be the only condition or the only guarantee for real peace. so i think we could be seen the beginning of a turning point, but i'm afraid while necessary is not enough. you bring needs much more. we need to
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send much more to the granting the long rich me sales aircraft and everything the needs. we think commissioner worker to basically, you know, regarding for my independance, why? because basically russia asking to destroy your grant and change at all their goals for their team to try. all right, so there's a lot of high level discussions this week. we've got those military chiefs that need her, which you have mentioned the the 3rd ramstein summit on friday, which you mentioned actually do you see changes in the west response to the work you're saying? you're not going to see major changes? no, i think we're going to seen important changes. for instance we've, we've been already seen in terms of, you know, air defense, take the announcements on your batteries. look at what happened on the project from better to you still have are defense to predictor series, hundreds of kilometers away from, from the, from this so they need, they need more of that. and secondly,
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i guess they'll be important announcements on fridays. but like i said, while we're be there in on, on, on, on tax cash, we totally neither do money or use any storage in the near future or you're granted them now in the window of opportunity is now. so i'm confident we will see important announcements on, on, on friday this over the news that the us will deliver new armor vehicles. we do need to protect their people and essentially, but i, what i'm trying to say is that we still are behind the curve. i mean, they were asking for these things in the spring. so all of us have been making the case for our defense is the spring. and meanwhile, russia has lot thousands of sales against you. nancy, this is the worse aragon been in your industry is a will work to so yes, run credit will be important. you know, we're getting there. it's not enough. what we're going to listen to russian
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president vladimir putin now, and then we'll come back to you in a moment. let's take a listen. national lucas of the passaic production of air defense me solves, is comparable to world production. so that assurance cannot give us confidence that victory will be ours. so if i get them or i bought, has a proven, clearly wants to project that russia has the weapons and the stain pirate. when this war, what your assessment and what sort of shape is russia given the cost of the war and the western sanctions? you know very good question. rushes down, but not out there in the day are taken decisions to basically arm and learn from their mistakes. in 2022. that difference minister showed this announcement on your increase in the russian army and basically they're doing 2 things. are gearing up for a long war, included on ukraine,
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but also being ready for a major national war and the rest of, of, of europe. so i think there are hurting, but they seem to be doing the learn and very important to understand. they haven't given up on destroying ukraine, and that's, that's very important and they haven't given up on present enough to do the rest of europe. so i think we should be, you know, we should, we shouldn't rush to 2 conclusions that russia is not the, you know, it's been pushback, but there, right there might be mobilizing wouldn't people, etc. so they're, they're ready for another. yeah. alright. bought her last said, our senior fellow at the center for european policy analysis. thank you for joining us on the job. thank you very much. very good question. the while rushes invasion of ukraine has caused the biggest european refugee crisis and the fastest forced population movement
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since the end of world war 2. according to the united nations, more than 7500000 people have fled to ukraine since the war began. in addition, nearly 7000000 ukrainians are internally displaced. unicef says that with every 2nd that passes a ukrainian child becomes a refugee. well, the plight of ukrainian refugees is another issue being discussed at the world economic forum. in davis dw correspondent ben physician caught up with kelly t clements, the deputy high commissioner of the you, ends refugee agency, the you and hcr, deputy high commissioner, we've heard here in davos that russia's warn ukraine is spot the 21st century biggest refugee crisis. the majority of those refugees ending up in russia. what's their fate festival? well, in fact, this has been the fastest moving largest since world war 2 people sang within ukraine and people also going to neighboring countries and to play anywhere really,
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that they can seek safely. a 3rd of ukraine has been displaced, displaced inside the country and neighboring countries. um, in russia we have a very small operational footprint for it, in terms of our presence in, in russia itself. we have a larger presence in other neighboring countries supporting governments to be able to provide protection and aid and really anything that those refugees and others flane the, the war and ukraine need inside the country. the situation is quite dynamic. people are moving constantly with the bombardment that continues to happen. the war continues to re john and it moves. people are moving, trying to find safety, trying to find a, a warm place to stay during these very cold months in ukraine. what about the thousands of children as well, who are being put up to adoption in russia? we heard from ukraine's 1st lady yesterday. that's these children's children a, basically their memories are being wiped by moscow's campaign. war is horrible on
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civilians, children, women, men, and this war is no different. you know, we have said from the very beginning, you know, guardians, and those that can take care of children who may have lost parents. that is the 1st step. i'm protection is what we aim to achieve. we're working very closely with, with the government to try to make sure that the was within ukraine or are well protected. were in touch with the authorities in russia to make sure that children that may find themselves in the russian federation are also protected. this is war is not a, it is takes many lives, but it also takes many livelihoods. and we have seen really quite devastating impacts in ukraine. so what should ukrainians do? should they stay or should they go? you know this, these are choices that they need to make. it's a very dynamic situation. there are people going back and forth across the border check on property, reunite with family members, and obviously many men and, and young males have not been able to leave the country. so there is
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a lot of family reunification that's taking place. people will go when it's safe, then they'll go in there if they have a place that they can actually live safely, be able to reestablish their livelihoods until then it can be very difficult for them to return in large numbers. and you've seen, of course, the, the warnings in the signals that the ukrainian government have told their people, please not in the winter months. fuels difficult infrastructure has been severely damaged in many parts of the country and, and energy is hard to find. so at these stages it's going to be a personal choice, but they'll need to make that themselves are using sides though all the 2nd wave following the huge outflow of maybe women and children at the beginning of the will not at the stage, but then again, we're in the heart of winter, where it's cold, where people are trying to hunker down and trying to get through the worst of this of this conflict. i'm at it. we'll have to see what, what, what becomes in terms of the war. what becomes when, when the weather turns a little bit warmer and people will make those personal choices at this stage,
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we want to be prepared for anything. we work with. a large number of partners were supporting the government and the neighboring countries to be able to support the very generous hosting that they've had now for almost a year. you want to be prepared, but how prepared is the e u. formal refugees? well, the you, of course, has taken the lion's share of, of refugees at this point. as i mentioned, a 3rd of you, of ukraine has been displaced. about 8000000 refugees across the continent. about 5000000 have registered through the temporary protection directive that the you established within just a couple of days of the, of the war breaking out. this is essential. it's about inclusion. it's about refugees being able to work with kids in school, be able to avail themselves of health services and the like. and this in terms of preparation, i think we're all doing contingency planning. we hope it doesn't get worse, but we have to be prepared for it. if it does, deputy commissioner, thank you very much for being on the doe use. much. ah, it, i had hoped this would be what it is i it would have taken that stretch of
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imagination to have me did a conviction, but there was a lot at stake, not just for rattler and the philippines. but in terms of what this meant for our development, for rule of law, for press freedom a, how do i feel like the sun is coming? well, i was journalist maria rasa speaking to d. w, after a court in the philippines acquitted her online news outlet wrapper of tax evasion, reza was a joint winner of the nobel peace prize 2 years ago, but globally recognized reporting on her countries. violent anti drug campaign made her an enemy of former president rodrigo to tampa. it's not the end of the wolf a nobel prize winner, maria ressa, but she has won a significant battle. speaking outside court, she struggled to hold back tears. but today's
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facts when truth, when justice, when major emotional am for ressa co founded the online use side rep la unused it to expose philippines. president rodrigo, to 10 days alleged abuse of power and growing authoritarianism. due tatty tried to discredit. rap le ressa says he weaponized the philippines judicial system against her and her associates left the 59 year old has been battling a series of cases, filed you to have vocal criticism of the former president. these charges, as you know, were politically motivated. they were incredible to us a brazen abuse of power and meant to stop journalists from doing their jobs. she still faces 3 other
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criminal cases, including a cyber libel, conviction currently on appeal for which she could be sentenced to nearly 7 years in prison. so maria theresa and her media outlet aren't out of the legal woods just yet. here's what she told each of you about her victory in court, and the cases still left to fight. ah, the worst 7 criminal charges that i was facing on the, when the marcus administration came in, they were all initiated under the tier to administration in less than 2 years. i posted bail 10 times. right. 10 arrest warrants. of course. this is the very 1st time since 2016 that we actually won a case on, you know, as you can read the decision, pretty ludicrous charges of this this mean. it's the end of it, not yet, but it is a really good beginning for us. and we hope that with these for tax evasion,
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charges thrown out, there's a 5th one that's related to it. we'll hope to get a similar verdict and that one and then a cyber libel has moved the fastest it's at the supreme court. now again, a i hope for the best. all right, well that's all from us, but make sure to stay in touch. he can follow our team on twitter detail, but you can use and if it's the latest headlines you're looking for, there's always our website, deacons, dot com. and of course, our social media cans to the day is back tomorrow until then from the entire team here in berlin. thanks for spending part of your day with
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with with conflict with tim sebastian, it's almost a year since russia invaded ukraine with no talk. so a cease fire of any kind in cross, but my guess is we must go is a former army officer and former director of the colony moscow center, which was shut down las vegas. why did moscow go to war? just as the west wood begun the dialogue who tended been demanding with departure into
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the unknown. today, this means flying to a foreign planet. in the 16th century, it meant being a captain and setting sail to discover route and adventure full of hardships, dangers and debts. but jillions journey around the world in 45 minutes on do you deal with? i went one on 6 times a travel. i have to land line from 50600 euro currently more people than ever on the move worldwide in such
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a life. you know, this is a very difficult journey and one's 3 farming cortisol is very hard, they beat you, would it take or everything, all your stuff, find out about some man story in some migraines, reliable needs to migrate wherever they may be. it's almost a year since russia invaded ukraine with no peace talk. so c, spire of any kind in prospect. and yet president putin insist the war is showing a positive trend. my guest this week for moscow is dimitri training for the army officer and former director of the carnegie moscow center, which was shut down last april, with tens of thousands of its soldiers killed a little progress on the ground. the kremlin is taking its own survival on the outcome of.

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