and really imagine that these teachings are relevant to. ah, gandhi's legacy starts january 28th on b, w ah, ah, this is dw news live from berlin. germany is new defense minister hit the ground running just hours after being sworn in. what was the story of his meeting with the us defense secretary, lloyd austin, likely top of the agenda. german battle tanks for ukraine. also coming up, i'm leaving. because with such a privilege,

roll comes responsibility. 3rd sponsibility to know when you are the right person to lead and also when you are not in a shock announcement, new zealand prime minister jacinta and says she's stepping down almost a year for her to end. ah, it's been 40 years since floating balloons became a symbol for the madness of cold war nuclear break and shit and launch one of the biggest hit from the german language. we looked back at the phenomenon that was not a non safe look below. ah i'm and you can make an, an. busy come to the program. japanese the minister,

bullish pistol. this has been in office for just a few hours, but he's already holding talks with his us counterparts, lloyd austin, and brief statement, the full that discussions austin and peculiar stress. the importance of the close alliance of that country. let me think of nato consultations on friday in germany about further military aid to ukraine. his son of what u. s. defense minister light austin, had to say. it's been a turbulent term for european and global security. but throughout the crisis caused by russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine, germany has remained a true friend of united states in a staunch defender of our, our large and values. so we'll continue to support ukrainian people as, as they resist a russian aggression and defend their sovereign territory. i'd like to thank the

german government for all that it has done to strengthen ukraine, self defense, and your contributions of security assistance and training for ukraine's defenders have been a vote and valuable that was annoyed. austin nath. let's take a listen to japanese new defense minister forrest restore, if that had been said, don't bomb. and it will, it, if i'm thankful that the foundation on which nato and the alliance is grounded and is one that is based on shared values like mine's a shared strategy, can chat action and shared responsibility on these often is she still okay? so often in history also in these times, the federal republic of germany and the united states of america are standing shoulder to shoulder in our actions. but also in the concrete steps such as infra tree fighting vehicles, patriot air defense systems, and multiple rocket launchers such as esteem. german systems are proving valuable

in ukraine, such as the mobile howard sergei part for the modern air defense system, iris, t and future to we will together with our partner support ukraine in its fight for freedom for territorial integrity and sovereignty. fairly fired on the tele dial or nothing is kind of in it. it t w is chief, political correspondent, lena has a followed that press conference for us and told us more about what was that a bonus for story as has been in office, was since today, essentially. and the meeting with the u. s. defense secretary was his very 1st and big meeting for his historian, essentially reiterated the close and the close alliance with the united states and said that to germany, the u. s. is the most important ally. his story is spoken english at 1st and the statements you do have to know this became before their actual meeting. so in terms

of content, in terms of new announcements, we didn't get any of that. but it was interesting to gauge the atmosphere a little bit. visorio spoken english, he is dressed that in alliance with us. he said that the 2 are talking about what's going to happen out of hampstead, military base on friday, where the international community is discussing how best to support ukraine. latera lee. but he also said that lots of other nato topics were on the agenda, the in the pacific situation, for example. and to me, what stood out this morning was what was not said and no mention from either of the 2 about that elephant in the room. the potential delivery of a german made leopard 2 tanks to ukraine, and i was just gonna ask you about those leopard at 2 tanks. obviously, a really important topic for the 2 defense secretaries to discuss it today and the possibility of them being sent to ukraine. we're going to take a look at and why there is so much focus on this potential tank delivery and right

now. and nina will come back to you right after that. it's the flagship of the german army, the leper to heavily armed battle tank with superior firepower weighing close to 60 tons. it can hit targets at a distance of up to 5 kilometers and protect itself and other vehicles from all kinds of threats. while still being agile and easy to maneuver, that's why it's widely regarded as the best of its kind, developed for the bonus there more than 40 years ago and built in germany. the leper too, is now also used by many other countries, especially in europe, but also in canada, chilar cutter, indonesia, and elsewhere. more than 3500 units, i used worldwide by some 19 nations. overtime the tank was upgraded and adjusted for use in specific environments. so several different versions have emerged and

not all of them are still up to date. refurbishing them to make them fit for combat in ukraine takes time. so even with a political decision made, it could take months until the leper to can make a difference on the frontline. nina, you did say that or show an excuse me, the 2 defense ministers didn't mention the leper to tanks, but there are reports suggesting that chancellor charlotte's would be willing to send german tanks to ukraine if the u. s. and it sends its own tanks to is that a likely scenario that could happen? well, you do have to keep in mind that when it comes to those issues, what is germany delivering to ukraine in terms of military support? that is a decision that so far off, so it has made clear that decision lies with him. now, whether that is going to change under the new defense min is. so we'll just have to wait and see just how and self confident forest for stories is going to be in terms of challenging his chancellor in public as well. so far this decision is with all

of shows, and he spoke to us president joe biden on tuesday. and what we're hearing is that in that phone call will have showed said that he is open to delivering german made lepper. 2 tanks to ukraine provide at the us send their own abrams tanks. now what we're hearing from washington is that they are not considering such a stab. they say it's a system that requires a lot of maintenance era issues with that. then also there's long training periods . they say that they are hesitant, they don't want to deliver something to ukraine, that ukraine doesn't really need right now. okay, now that there is incredible pressure on chancellor charlotte's about this topic to morrow. austin and pastorius are scheduled to attend the meeting of allies that the u. s. military base in ramstein southwestern germany to discuss further weapons deliveries to ukraine. so is there any sense whether they'll be a shift after those talks? what, what can we expect from that meeting?

i think you have to take em the issue and look at it from m road in detail. really . there are 2 questions here. one is will germany send leopard 2 times to ukraine? i think most likely we won't hear such an announcement from ramstein to morrow. the other question is will germany give its green light so that other countries can send lepper to tanks, that they have once in the past bought from germany. and that is more likely we're hearing from washington that one of the goals of the us defense secretary austin here in berlin today is to unlock that decision to get germany to agree that there can be a coalition of willing countries who are incidentally expected to meet the sidelines of that comes down meeting, trying to coordinate the delivery of level 2 tanks or to ukraine. poland has already said it wants to do that. finland has as well. and so there might be

movement in that respect, but not when it comes to direct delivery from germany. i don't think nina has a need of when his chief political correspondent, thanks so much. and we can take a look now. some of the other stories making headlines around the world to palestinians have been killed in an overnight raid by israeli forces in janine and the occupied west bank. palestinian sources say one of those killed was a militant while the other was a teacher, at least 17 palestinians have been killed by israeli forces in the west bank this year. rescue as a scrambling to get to 6 people trapped under a collapsed building in the dominican republic. cameras have been pushed into the rubble and fire faces are in contact with those waiting to be rescued. several inhabitants were injured when the 4 story structure collapsed. no deaths have been reported. the swedish climate act escalade had thornburg,

has accused global fossil energy firms of fueling the destruction of the planet. she was speaking of the world economic forum and dabble, switzerland tune berg presented a letter that she and other activists had written to energy companies demanding that they stopped the exploitation of fossil fuel reserves. i do wonder and listen for as it is there any any zealand prime minister jacinta arden has shocked her country with the announcement that she is stepping down early. she led her labor party to a landslide reelection victory 2 years ago. but now i don't says february 7th will be her last day in the top job, just in the arden lead newsline through the pandemic paris attack and natural disasters. she now says she is ready to pass on the baton and so today i'm announcing that i will not be seeking religion. and the my team as

prime minister will conclude no later than the 7th of february. i know what this job takes and i know that i no longer have enough in the tank to do it justice. it's that simple. father became the world's youngest female head of government when she was elected in 2017, a be age of 27. she quickly gained global recognition for her brand of liberal and inclusive politics. the following year, she had a baby becoming the 2nd elected leader in history to give birth while in office. and i am by no means the faithful in small the task. i end in terms of being a woman in politics. there are plenty of women who have to park and incrementally have lived away a compassionate response to the ma, shooting at

a christ church mosque in 20191. how widespread praise we a nuisance parliament. wanted to change the nation's gun laws less than a month later, voice wisely. for for 6. this is for level 2 and a government's go hard go. early approach should the pandemic is partly what got her. a 2nd dome in 2020 newsline whitley chart, bordeaux's and imposed a prolong lockdown to stop the spread of the virus. but bold suggest her popularity has waned in reason once and she has fears an increase in threats of violence, particularly from anti vaccine groups. she insist that is not why she is stepping down. i'm not leaving because i believe we can't win the election. but because i believe we can and will. and we need a fresh set of shoulders for that challenge. i am human politicians,

a human. we give all that we can for as long as we can and then it's time. and for me, it's time. arden says she has no plans yet for the future other than spending more time with her family. laura grieves as a political scientist at the university of oakland in new zealand, and she told us more about arden's unexpected resignation announcement and credibly shopping. none of us would have expected us. in fact, others had actually said late last year that she was definitely going to continue the election. so quite the surprise, i mean, the culture in new zealand is to have the summer off to have the christmas often to reflect that. so, i mean, we can probably take her on her face value that she has to fill out. she's worn out and she has and her words, nothing left in the tank. yeah. how on new zealand is reacting to the news given that i want to expected we hear

a lot of surprise when people are interviewed. illustrate that just like what, not what we expect. there's all a lot of surprise and actually a lot of appreciation across the political spectrum. so has a lot of understanding that during the cova g, as it said, incredibly hard to deal with, things like the crushes, terrorist attack before that incredibly con. so a lot of gratefulness to have service, regardless of where people are sitting on the political spectrum, she does have a lot of support that she does. of course, also have her critics. we just heard in our report. how will her time as prime minister be remembered overall i think fundamentally, we can argue back and forth around different policy issues or different filings. but i think her main point as prime minister will be being the crisis minister facing the question parents are needing that was in to say the faculty why island adoption, which, which code many people volcanic eruption the carpet is as well being the kind of prime minister and now we're leading co respond,

i think she's going to go down in history as the crisis prime minister along by the looking ahead. what's next for new zealand? you know, what, when will the next election be held? are there any successes already being talked about? well, about 3 days time, all of the members are just under athens party. i'm with, well, all of them in the parliament are going to call her and figure out who to be the next prime minister. if 2 thirds is on the thigh than that her son will work at walk out of prime minister of new zealand, thou have a few months to get snow the public and they will have a few months of campaigning before the election. and october, and really a lot of us are looking to see what these next few polls look like, because we generally think it's going to be a very close, very tough election for the labor party. all right, up to laura greeves, the political scientist at the university of oakland. thank you so much for your time. now the german parliament has just voted

unanimously to recognize the massacre of ethnic is cds in iraq as genocide fighters from the so called islamic state massacred more than a 1000 years eighty's in north western iraq in 2014. the w spoke with one easy, the family who found refuge here in germany. it's shopping tele slow, still shaken. when he recounts the attack on his home village are pretty islamic state and my mom he is now in germany, but lived in iraq until 2014. that was the year when the islamist militia concrete, large parts of his homeland. and so bards him out hello slow and his family fell into i asked him to the tea and we're separated. just crush shopping hub voiced my father on my house. where is my father? where is my uncle? one of the i s men. so to me, we asked them several times if they would become muslims or not. and your father and other men so no. so we shot them on the hub. it shows its sharpness,

his father, like the rest of the family, belonged to the is edy ethnic. religious minority the i as brutally persecuted them because of their beliefs and traditions. the family used to live in the main settlement area of the cities center. it's also where tele, his mother and his sisters were held captive by the i s hot on sky schleiden. they beat us and gave us little to lead her fiercely took over for sisters away and forced each of them to marry a member of the i had in it. and in this one, i latin according to the you and the i, as hes, mad at more than 5000 his cds and kidnapped, there was 7000 women and children since 2014 to this day, thousands of years edi refugees live in camps in iraq. although the i as was considered defeated, but their homeland still lacks basic infrastructure. as cupid canvas,

there is no water and no electricity honk and there are no hospitals or schools either. it truly support from a country like germany would help. formal recognition would release government funding to help you see these rebuild their homes. it is crucial for them as a yes, it is called back to the city has. if this does not happen, the i ask will have a chief exactly what it wanted, but its attack, which is to free this region of use it is using in 2015, the iraqi government paid the i as a ransom and tallow and his remaining family were released and came to germany, but even if the region recovers will go kind of fun. i do not want to go back to a country where i suffered so much a live in worcester. for now, he has everything he needs here. and we can speak and to thanks. barbara is

a member of parliament with a social democrats and is also in the parliamentary committee for human rights and humanitarian aid. welcome to d. w. now we know the german parliament has now though said to recognize the cd masika in iraq as genocide. can you tell us, please, why is it so important to get official recognize recognition of these crimes? you know, what does decision we cannot change? should the horrible history of the last? yes. is it people have to face, but i understand that's very important for them to get rid of the little bit of the traumatized to find a way for the future. and for sure, it's very important to do everything to speak about it, to do, commented, and at the end to take those one responsible comments is harbor trans. you say it's important to speak about it, but i, i have to mention that the math because of course, we know happened in 2014,

that's 9 years ago already 7 years ago the u. n. was pulling it genocide. why is the german government only acting on this? now? i fully understand that this is true too long for you. is it a community? i understand it, but you have to understand that the german perm ended small to come and procedure to recognize genocides as genocide. we do it and not very often, and it takes some time to discuss it at the end. it wasn't initiative by people in germany. you know, we have a very big community. yes. for our community in germany. and they took the initiative last year, and finally it comes to the pam and now we can have this recognition. so now it's been recognized. what does this ruling mean in concrete terms? finally, it means that we can commit ourselves to deal with this question more than we may

be dealt to. now we have to do every thing to give the people the opportunity to go back to the areas where they come from. you know, 100000 are still in refugee camps. we have to do everything to support in the national judge justice to take those one responsible, commit this crime. and at the end you can, or you can put them to prison under the different procedures for them to know. so i think the question of genocide and the recognition of genocide, this is very important to deal with the question. okay, so you talk about helping those who want to go back, but in our report we just heard from a member of the community, he says he never wants to go back to the place where these awful things things happen. so you know what about help for those people and you know,

they are different or ideas about it and we cannot decide for those. i met a lot of different people. some want to go back someone to have another future in the region and someone to, to go to europe. and you know, we had to program in the past to invite those people to come to germany. and i think we have to proceed with this procedure. so if there is no future for them in the region, then we need to kind of program to have them to come to germany or other countries all over the world punch father from the bonus tag committee and human rights and humanitarian. a thank you so much for speaking with aaron dw. thank you. now we have some tragic for old news now. a stampede of unruly fans ahead of the gulf cup final in basra. iraq has left at least one person dead. and many others injured. thousands of fans without tickets became aggressive outside the jazz,

or i'll not the stadium hours before kickoff. leading to some chaotic scenes, many were seen climbing the walls to enter the stadium in the hope of watching the final, between iraq and oman. despite there being an increased security presence to manage the crowd is the 1st time that iraq has hosted the gulf cup since 1979. now to a sole made in germany, it became a global head at a time of nuclear anxiety. it has been 40 years since the release of 9 and on so lock belongs by nina. the cold war era, single was one of the biggest german language hits ever. it was recorded in english as 99 red balloons, and it captured the hearts of generations of music lovers. and its anti war message endures today. ah,

40 years ago and unknown german singer and her band released a song that floated around the world, named as 99 red balloons, captured the angst and site guys of the iraq. perfectly. in 1983, the cold war was in full swing relations between the u. s. and the soviet union were deteriorating and the world feared a nuclear apocalypse. nato responded to easton block proliferation by stationing pershing to nuclear missiles on german soil. nina and her band took a stand against, with pop music. 99 red balloons, became the soundtrack of the peace movement. isn't. i mean, it was the time when the big question of whether nuclear weapon should be stationed in germany was at the fall. it was a question that occupied people everywhere, not just in germany, and this was when name is and she was on 99 rep balloons, burst onto the scene, and quickly caught on him why. the idea came from the band guitarist carlo par

guess at the end of the concert in west berlin. in 1982, the rolling stones released balloons into the sky. harlow wondered what would happen if they floated over the border to east berlin and were mistaken by soviet radar from missile the idea for $99.00 red balloons was born. the song top the chart from germany, japan, australia, new zealand, and reached number 2 in the us. the band later recorded an english language version, but in many countries the original german song was preferred. 40 years on the music may be showing its age, but the lyrics about the senselessness of war remain as pertinent as when they were 1st written. ah, he is a quick reminder of our top story today. kevin defense minister forest pastorius is holding talks with his us counterpart,

lloyd austin at this hour. and brandon is come to the head of the white, a meeting of european defense ministers at the usaa basin shine and southwest germany on friday. berlin is under pressure to facilitate the delivery left, the 2 battle tanks to ukraine. and that's where we have time for coming up next conflict phone with tim sebastian. and he'll be speaking to dimitry training is a member of russia's foreign and defense policy council in a former military intelligence i menu, oops, mckinnon on behalf of the whole new state. thank you for watching with with

who conflicts with tim sebastian? it's almost a year sooner. russia invaded ukraine with no storks or see fire many times in prospect. my guess is weak. moscow is committee, a former army officer and former director carnegie moscow center,

which was shut down last april. why did moscow go to war? just as the west had begun, the dialog putin has been demanding. with an exclusive interview with donnie, dionne director of the yard wash him holocaust memorial. you vowed that you would never visit germany. what are your expectations? we have to think together how to continue to keep the flame of all opposed to remember alive. now he's visiting germany for the very 1st time, the exclusive interview with donnie dionne mine in 75 minutes on d. w. o. you become a criminal pre climb ai already knows with

hackers and paralyzed between your societies, computers and outs where you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can tell what was in for. and that's how they can also go terribly. watch it. now on youtube, it's almost a year since russia invaded ukraine with no p. storks or c spire of any kind in prospect. and yet, president putin insist the war is showing a positive trend. my guest this week for moscow is dimitri trending for my army officer and former director of the carnegie moscow center which was shut down.