hila company, an exhibition of artifacts from the holocaust on display in the bonus tag in berlin . danita and thank you for your time to thank you for having me. you vowed that you would never visit germany the, the country responsible for the murderer, $6000000.00 jews, but you are in fact, going to berlin with a special exhibition from the museum here. yet for him. ah, what change your mind? well, i made the decision of a very young age and not the visit germany, but it wasn't the, it's nothing to go with, hey, or something like that. on the contrary, it's everything about memory. you know, there is an interesting, deuced edition, not many just do it these days, but it still exists. the argos that keep it small part of the wall in the department, in their home not painted. why? in order to remember the destruction of jerusalem, 2000 years ago,

every time they see it, they remembered that journals that it was destroyed, 2000 years ago than the temple was destroy. that's the reason i did it. it's my stay in on the, on the wall. and when i look at the map of the place as a visitor, they see a white, a stain on the map of europe. it's germany. and i remember why i don't visit germany. it's to kip, to give my respect to the 6000000 jews that were murdered. but the same reason that prevented me from visiting germany this day is there isn't. that brings me to germany now was chairman of yet a ship because as chairman of yet, but by visiting in germany, i have the ability to amplify remembrance of the shore to amplify the respect that the spade to the victims are not only on a personal basis but also to a much larger base in animal, roger basis because it will be reported that the seeing that and exhibition will be

seen by many persons. so it's basically the same decision, the circumstances change, not my decision now, and let's talk a little bit about where we are today. and for him, it's celebrating or marking, rather it's 70th year this year. and how is it developed in the 7 decades as the world's foremost memorial to the victims of the holocaust? i has developed completely 1st of all the fact that the yeah. gotcha was established by chris at legislation in 1953. but actually the gathering of archival documentation thought that even before it started in the late forty's, even before this published at the state of israel air. but they think that it started as an archive and a bunch of monuments developed into a multi faceted institution. that these, that you said the most prominent, the most important, the holocaust that remembers distribution in the world. some of the far think out

the folks that we have here, or if you are a one being bring you to tears immediately the moment you see them, the largest library and our collection of collection, the ard, that was produced during the hollow, coastal immediately afterward, which is something quite my boat big. it is a remarkable archive. i know that you've managed to be able to collect over these years. but sadly, as the years roll on, we know that many survivors are dying. they will continue to die and, and one day they will be, of course, no survivors, no living survivors of the holocaust left. when there are no survivors, how will that affect you think the memory of the show are and what's the best way to keep that memory alive? it will be very challenging her. it's clear that that will work will be much more difficult, but the goal, so it'd be much more important because when that happens, i am convinced that that will be the happy hour of the denial is than the

distortion of is that the existence of the day but then they will drive a and bed. that's one of the reasons we in a race against the clock against the calendar. now i'd like to talk about your, your appointment. you, you took the reins in 2021, something you've called the greatest honor of your life. and you are perhaps a surprising candidate for the yard fishing chairmanship you were previously representing for the settler movement. you also act as a diplomat, representing israel in new york. at the time of your appointment, there was a bit of debate and quite a lot of debate around whether or not that would politicize the role of chairman of yen fish. him. you vowed at the time to maintain a firewall between yourself and the memorial and, and politics. have you managed to do that? yes, the moment i a was appointed by the government. the federal as chairman of he had voucher. i put the firewall between me and politics and the look. this mission i

took upon myself is sacred and they will never stand it with a political interest, thoughts, or, or, or of considerations. i will tell you a story. and my 1st day in, in yoga was they came to the museum of park and there is a quote in a wall that is in a broo on, in english, but florida it was a break, then he made the sh, a painter a gala 6, then the continued to mccarthy in the war, so get the 1941 and she hid their archer out in the and that was recovered after the war. but also had last will and testament was recovered and the quote was from that will and she says, i know i am doomed. i will not survive in that she didn't. but they bequeath my works of art to the jewish institution that will be established after the war. when i saw that quote,

i almost fainted. i understood that she's talking to me. i am now the executor of that will. and natalie gillard sections will but skin 1000000 wilson, this elements and there. therefore, it's my obligation to do it in the most objective and clear way. can we seeing arise in anti semitism around the world at something you've spoken about at great length in what ways do you say that playing out? well, i'm a personal, a story. i arrived to new york in august 2016. the service is rose consul general. they're convinced that they some it is and will be in a law place in my agenda in may. i'm in new york in the united states. 15 jews were murdered, not attacked, murdered in that they submit the carfax so anti semitism, unfortunately thriving again in the world. and there, you know what they tell worldly. does that come through yet?

vashem a especially the work leaders is when you see and they sent me these them act immediate, dont wait. if your weight antisemitism will met us, thighs into monstrous than men, shall cindy, be impossible to stop it. you actually touched on it and before and i think i do think it's an important point though in the distance between the holocaust and today, do you think that there is a correlation between the resurgence of anti semitism you just mentioned that perhaps once the last of ivers die out, we might see even further resurgence of it. is there a correlation to relate between the events of the holocaust? yes or no and i so it is in a sunday simon business went by semitism but we are not in germany of the 9030 snow . we are not we are far from it that we should not get close to that god forbid. but you know, the difference between our generation then contemporary generation and jewish are not jewish. and the donation of the 93rd is jewish and not jewish is that we have

experience. we know it can happen. probably they, they had the privilege to believe the navy tend to believe that they can burn books and can burn synagogues, but we never burned human beings. we don't have that privilege. we know that it can come to burning human beings. so that's the difference. and that gives us an added responsibility on our. ready shoulders to combat that they submit these him and racism accent fabia. natalie anti semitism about this is empirically the most lethal. it's sort of fun things of racism. so we have to do it now. what do you see as the on fish and role in combating antisemitism? well, you know, the, the role of the other chem is to remember and make, remember the sure are how gunny zation. i think that 6000000 jews that were massacred in the shore are entitled to an organization and institution that the

solemnly dedicated to them exclusively dedicated to them. but the very essence of show our remembrance is a very powerful tool to combat the same. it is, and i will give you an example from the last weeks and there were 2 very prominent american celebrities said that they made very traveling statements. what is kenya west? and he was clearly an anti semite. i wouldn't bring kenny, i was 3 out of a shame because it's a waste of time. probably he would have been enjoy yet. but shame because that jews are here display what the goldberg on the, on the other hand said that the show was not the an issue about race. it was a classic conflict between 2 whites white groups, which is nonsense. that's but the thought antisemitic that ignorance, she simply doesn't know the fact that big not this, so the drink people right or wrong desert place. and there was no conflict between

joseph and the nazis. that was an onslaught of the nazis against the jews. so what the goldberg on the other hand, instead of suspending her for 2 weeks or 3rd network did, they should have sent her to the other shame because what we got can be educated, kenya was, there is no, this is a waste of time. so we do not try to educate the anti semites. we try to educate the decent people of the world that they believe of the vast majority to stand against them. they said it is, as you prepared to make your 1st visit to germany, what are your expectations, or perhaps your hopes and even fears? well as if i have personally and he visions, but that is a personal matter between me on my side. a better, you know, in addition to opening the exhibition in the bundis thug with the speaker of the bundle staggered present from the bundle like i will meet the entire edge of my leadership, the president, the counselor, several ministers,

the head of the opposition a and they we have to think together, i'm not sure i come to think together with them to consult with them and to give them. yes, sir, without modest the advice a how were to continue to keep the flame of fair holocaust to remembrance our life to make sure that you know, there is an academic discussion, a fair day show. eyes unique or unprecedented. unique means that this happened wise and would not happen again unprecedented. they didn't happen fine, but he's got been again, how we keep the show are unique that we educate. ready and we legislate and we enforce law in order to make sure that that terrible event of the 20 century never happens again. not through the jewish people. not do any other people, not perpetrated by germany, not by any other nation. diane,

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