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panther to, to children's books. what's the status of black representation in the media? and an exclusive interview, kenya's boy on the south. you so tells us what it means to truly represent and we meet a graffiti artist who is giving a fresh look to my tactics. i don't know about you, but i get excited when a black actor is cast in the remake of the popular will. but us is often the case, it also causes an opera with meaning questioning why it is even necessary to change it bashing that many already used to this the production company, for example, has received criticism for planning to use a black character in its upcoming film. the little mandate. so why do we need a black man made? of course we need a black ma made and black else in flood. if fantastical features can be blue and

yellow and are boiled. why draw the line at bluff? but it's not just about the color now, is it? recently there was an uproar over the fact that american film company word disney studio, cast a young, brilliant, and black actress to play the role of the little mermaid. now the criticism wasn't based on the performance of the actress. highly bailey. one group asked why disney had to remake the film with a black actress instead of sticking to a white one as had been done in previous remakes. the 1st group of people is annoyed that the fantastical form now includes black characters. and not only that, then all style of g for the fill, which have been produced for over 20 times now is solely missed out. and what's worse is that fantasy and re life and not any more different. for the 2nd group of

people, halliburton being the star of an age. all fantasy is not a big will. they say that these neat is playing faith by retailing the fame, all stories. but still arnie because they're tickling that last charger of people, the desire to see themselves represented on screen. now when companies do this, it's called black washing. they say that leaves me can invest money in telling new stories, for example, about mac, actually one windsor who fought off the european by dancing a very via gross dance called to food. and now they've also another group of people who think that this discussion is not necessary. and i can see why in the year 20, 21 january to june normally would produced over 1000 fill. yes. and then the only ones on the tenant,

if you look across different countries there blossoming film industry is now with so many films being produced with black actors. do we still need to have a conversation about having black active? well, yes, we do. because hollywood is one of the biggest cultural vehicles in the world, and it is important to portray the world as it really is. and that means having black people existing in the same way other races do. now, disney shouldn't talk casting brilliant actors just because they're black. no, however, they could invest in telling new stories such as the african mythology, for example, the pharmacy fraud by been or cri on the wizard of the crow. bye good, you are young. but if these title sound too complex for a children's story, then i have other examples. ariella and the talking drawn by stephanie corker,

are soon away by lou peter. no. and no matter which comes someone peaks. the fact remains that talent had work and determination is not a preserve of just one race. that means more block actors are needed on screen one to do their job. and secondly, so that people can remember that we are all equal regardless of the race. i fill out one jawandra for that fantastic breakdown. i think it's crazy that we have to constantly remind people that no matter the race or color of skin, we are all equal. and i guess some people need a constant reminder to dive deeper into the topic is invited a studio guest for today. francis obama is a journalist. he was born in lagos, nigeria, but relocated to germany in 2015. he uses photography and documentary skills to spark conversations. about visibility on the connection between identity and

immigration. yes. also the author of the children's book halide bis, let's find out more about him, the photographer, community organizer, and he's with no children, especially for children of color branches, oklahoma is not joined by birth. but in order to build a home away from home, he's taken on the role of organizing black community meet ups in germany, city of cologne. i've always for the people i've always been, i've always documented black conversations, black celebrities like fashion weeks. so when i moved to germany was just a natural progression into fits into such a role. he's called today's nissan, black and white places with a focus around african art and culture. in this case, the famous been in bronze to an artist residency at cologne's robins talking with museum france. it was able to interact with the bronzes. and now he wanted to open

the door for others. in measuring would have been in bones of here, is just natural to one to see them because you don't get to the problems of niger and that only here because they were neutral and having to see them here for the 1st time doing the exhibition of resist made me want to show other people this exploration, like i said, white black, white spaces, you don't really see a lot of black in the sense of community shared experiences. but also reflecting on a shed like history is what brought people here together. and for francis up the good start to building a more accepting world, his generation and his kids the man you just saw is right here with me in the studio. hello, francis. thanks for coming to. so why is this really important for you to address

black identity? first of all, i say i'm black and it's also very important that people like me are well represented in media. and i like to speak in the german context since i live here. you hardly see black represented in media. i mean you see if you but you hardly see it way should be and i have an actual, their responsibility of documenting such that space and also being visibility to the community. that is mostly i want to say not seen what exist. oh yeah, fair enough. i mean when you look at the current state of black representation, what are your thoughts? are we heading in the right direction? i was, i was so we are headed in the right direction. i mean, you can look at the last couple of the last 3. the last 3 is a lot of a lot of things that changed in germany. in particular. i mean it's, is the george floyd conversation a lot of people. now i'm more aware of the i don't see any of the identities. they know what they looked like, but now they take it more seriously. and yeah,

i would say it's going to the right direction and more media houses i taking cognizance of this fact that black people part of the story tell it. yeah, i mean, it sounds, again we're seeing the black people have to be positive storytelling because of course we should write that pretty straightforward. that should be the normality. i would actually be the normal situation, but we leave so sadly, you know, well that it's not always what we wish for that we get, but i believe that like you asked previously, it's important that we go in the right step and i think that hasn't been done properly in the past, but i think people are now taking that because in the doing the right things now better late than never said, i mean, you mentioned that you, you live in germany and you cannot all the things that you have, you've been, you've been here for a couple of years now, how has living in germany impacted the work that you do? ok. ok. i used to live in south africa. i lived there for 8 years and i've been in

germany now for the last 8 years. and originally, i'm sure you know, i'm nigerian, so that i have that journey ahead of me. and i would say germany has also impacted in how i tell my stories. because initially in south africa was all about the lifestyle type of work. but since i moved, yeah, i mean you, you are confronted daily with what you call the migration sometimes when you're confronted with lack of visibility and that has also made me aware that i need to do something so that was actually impacted my work deeply. i would say, yeah, i'm really looking forward to, you know, one of the secretions that have come up from your account that you would have book and hair like this, right? yeah. we're going to get into that too. so that leaves us to talk about representation in books, lack of representation can actually be life threatening. yes, a simple example. some rashes look totally different on white skin, compared to black skin. a disease symptoms in most medical books around a world,

a based on white people will show you an idea and illustrious, who got famous by coming up with you of your solution. we problem that nobody seemed to tackle a decades. that's have a look. ah, chileya barry e b d, illustration of a black feet. so when people are around the world, realize they had never seen themselves were present. that the picture turned into much more than the truly like a voice. speaking out for the black community, been a hard to understand, i destroy was more than just a medical official and it was a message of hope to talk to the black community. and then i said for me, knowing these drugs are no longer a passion, when the pep was on the generations of doctors, nurses, all kinds of medical studies here. and this is one of the books that they use. it's a stand that textbook used right?

fashion off today's all around the world. and if you sort of a page is very easy to see that most of the illustrations here are just white. skin is almost black. people goes how corporations don't have babies and for yeah, one really challenge that little efficient housing means that knows because disney lack of representation, medical control, for example, some skin conditional represent differently on the blocking. he's on i cities on, on the white skin, most of the clint oncology shows. we see you textbooks, a dreadful white people raise up with the rushes you talked about in what was really pink. so then if i go to the hospital, if i stop my clinicals, oh, my beautiful pink roch's why is not pink ink black people. so i feel this and many more medical and it shows me his blood to watch. i the only reason the medical cookies dsl in africa. yes. africa. yes, melanie. so once you start using our black people was we see is going to within was

reading is will, you will be like a difference between what you read not as group our to us in our group and at them 11 to 2 actually here post late on the founded bit that you be speech or went viral. he says several publishers have commissioned him to draw more block medical illustration. he says he plans to publish his own textbook on skin conditions in black people and wants to set up a training school for other african medical illustrated have only one word to describe what i just saw. amazing. i guess francis is still here with me on this. you, francis, i mean, you all watch this kimmy. what are your thoughts on what your fellow nigerian is interesting? first of all, i must say is dorian is, is he is doing what is very important to the future of how media should be sin.

first of all, i think it, that's how he should be. i mean, people want to see themselves in, in characters. people want to see themselves even in medical books, because a, i mean i, for the 1st time, i'm also thinking about it. i've never, i just realised that in most of the babies. oh do the features that you see is always yeah. we is. we don't even recognize that m we're, we, we are used to seeing how we are. yeah. and it hits you, it really hits you when you go like, wow how for, for decade, for centuries, that's just not being the case if you actually question us. so something doesn't like, or is there something wrong with me? you know, as for me, i've never christian my but i, but obviously i know that there's something wrong somewhere. and which is one of the reasons why i took it upon myself to change this type of marriage because being a father to you and having to show your kids what they don't look like all the time is also confusing. yeah, and i would say that what the,

what the other person is doing that is the future of how even medical you can even take it beyond that. i mean, even in labs we don't see how it was the coloring lab. yeah. so about really showing that black representation, you know, as part of the human race, as simple as that, you hold on a book. i see we talked about getting into this very hair like this. what want to be had you to, to dig into a book like this? i must be honest to you. i would say, 1st of all, our personal reasons, my son, i mean for the boys and they have this type of hair. and it was a struggle having to explain why the head is different. and secondly, i took part in i, i did a documentation with almost 80 black people in germany. and i found that that had the composition on has a, is deeper than we know. it's also a mix up basically the all existence and i and for me was very important to reach

out to different age groups. and i thought, since i also have kids, it's important that i reach out to that audience. and that's what made me go into this. i'm happy about the book because i don't have kids yet. if i do have kids in the future, i'll definitely have to show them the type of plan why it's okay to have any pebble as entity. yeah. so let's, let's, let's talk about the audience you're targeting with that book like this. i would say everybody, i mean, ever the thing about kids book is that you do not only reach out to the kids. you also reach out to the parents. you see, it's a kind of interesting story. i would tell you most of the people that have that have the people that booked this book and not just black kids are kids of color down. so a lot of white parents that bite such a book, a book like this, so they could, they able to synthesize the,

since i said the kids to let them know that this, this power diversity is power been different and the book also encompasses different character. it's not just, it's not just about the head nozzles about what makes the hair. i see, i wish we had all the time to so many questions i was, but i think let's wrap up with this. i mean, from all that you said, you definitely have a kind of future that you wish to see. what is the future of the future is, is what i'm, what i'm doing now. what people like me doing now, which is more represent a m r representation in the media and just media also having to do also having to lead. and i think that would be it's, we already making those most and our kids would leave that dream that we leave to the reality of our dreams just to for the future generation. thank you very much. thank you very much, francis for your time. francis ogle. but the good news is that francis is not alone . he's got salty, sol, kenya's, most famous boy, about what i had is in music,

movies or literature black representation. my test was salty, so the ban does not only support young african musicians. they also inspire african kits to story, tell it, hello, what's up everybody we are out. he's so good day. oh a. busy watching listening wherever you are 277, then ah, saudi sold these 4 guys from kenya rock africa, famous for their gigantic acoustic performances. the boy group found a 2005, and i robi consists of vocalists, p, n, shimano, chaverra, and eaters. for the car, the band spent the years of the club, 19 pandemic, partially apart from each other, to grow individually. and that includes the following your own art and embracing

who you are. at the end of last year, singer shimano had his coming out as gate a step that inspired him to his solo album heavy as the crowd. it's always been an open secret. it's just, i guess, like people waiting for you to say like, okay, i'm gay, gay, you know, ha, i said again, you know, likely it's 2022. that shouldn't be the center topic really. but then for me, it's some being, being able to say that tend to and to fully live my, my, my life and my end to fully be myself enables me to be creative. now to flee in, in my, in my own self and actually finding out who it is that i actually am as an individual artist. and while the band keeps nurturing the next generation of artist through their own record label, sulky song has also embarked on a new journey to educate children through their new book collaboration called sol kits for polycarp, it's a hard project. what which is to do is to create content that is by africa for

africans and content that keeps coming leads to, especially kids are coming from where we come from was easy to much wanted to am i being a father of 3 old mom? think the only father in the van, he's young. he's 2, he's almost 3 with. and it's something that was really something that was really bothering me. you know, when, when i'm thinking about the near future and what kind of contents i want to see do? what values on to still in him and then ah, yeah, then in a look out there even much that she presents us, you know, you rarely ever get an african perspective on what the experience of growing up we presentation met as to so to so whether it is in the music industry or in education and literature. so whether you are from west east, south or north africa, no matter what your background is, the guys from. so it is all have a message for every young african on the country. door, the youth,

a beer and to all the young people who are there, please lead with love. with everything you do, the reflection or positivity, good vibes, good energy and love b. b, you do, you live, you live for yourself. put yourself as your 1st priority, and this is something very radical a little bit. if you're, if you're an african queued out there and you only speak your african language, speak if you don't have to conform to english. yeah. just speak it. you'll be known, we just learn english to be understood worldwide. but just ah, that ended on one of my favorite salty sol solved snow where it's like africa. no,

it's like, oh, i have a good voice. it's a good job. was also good. is to be transported from one place to another in a super cool looking vehicle. in kenya, they call them my tattoos. they are many buses that are sometimes equipped with lcd color, t. v. 's and huge boxes. the vehicles come in unique designs and graffiti artist mohammed katara, aka what graphics is the musta of my talk to design. ah, my full name is muhammad cat. normally people call mammography because of the job i've been doing since sad than 19 ninety's. so my work, his graffiti body shop and everything about cars and mortal bikes. when i started, i started on canvas doing cameras was not giving me that pleasure, which, you know,

i, every time i used to do a convers, i always wanted people to see what of them. but most of the time you do conversely, ticket to some one, maybe 2 or 3 people see it that's really good. they deal. should they play this on cars? because cars are moving canvas. so that's when i said and just doing his hands on matter to small designs, the foster may saturday said it with stickers, in said matter to them, they said they bring the graffiti on the outside. but of small things. because at that time to pull di, nor distinguish normally how we start, the glands comes with the vehicle. we assess it. if there's any body work, we do it. there's somebody, some customers, they are very crazy customers. know you have to differentiate, get a crazy customer. he tells you, okay, do what you want. even did like

a via p logins on guy. that's when people are in knowing this. i just graffiti upset think because normally at that time if you did something, someone could not sleep. there are leg. this had demonic things. and maybe you're cussing something ah, doesn't entitled to bill that it was the foster my purity viewing them at 1st they did it on my car. i had a small thought i live in at put it into an inch on the dashboard. people are shocked at that time. it doesn't look like that. you see like today. and matter to can have you been like 30 says to fly scenes. that's 2 liens. and that so that's how he started every they wanted grid, something differently. maybe the board, the improving may be fits the kind of colors i'm doing, maybe the kind of graffiti i'm doing. so every day i wanted to do something different, even if a modeling them as much as they used to do before. but i created of a trend in people every did say and do set innovative new kind of things

with i was featured in forbes magazine. i think that was the biggest assessment. people look up to me. it has given people the morale that it doesn't matter who, which, which j b o, where you come from. you can do anything. i go every people know me. i've been good for that and been determined that one day i would make it wow, that's what i call strain inspiration. the key message for me is that it does not matter who you are or where you're from. you can do anything. knock my where it's one day you will make it now and that note of inspiration. it's a rap on this edition of the $0.77. i hope you enjoyed that as much as i did what i always love to hear from you. so when i taught us across all our social media

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