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a diversity make up your own mind. d. w. lead for mines with this is dw news live from berlin. could a german made tanks soon be on their way to ukraine? poland says it is prepared to send leopard 2 tanks to the front line, even without berlin's permission. and germany's foreign minister says berlin won't stand in its way. but the german chancellor is yet to change his official position
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. also coming up on the show, you foreign ministers agree, a new package of sanctions on iran, amid calls to brand the country's revolutionary guards, a terrorist organization. and we meet a russian man who fled to serbia to escape hooton's military call up. but he says, even there, he faces daily reminders of the power of russia's propaganda machine. ah, hello, i'm claire richardson, a very warm welcome to the show. german made leopard 2 tanks could soon be helping to defend ukraine. that's after poland said it would take its own action on sending the tanks there. germany's neighbor says it's eager to ensure ukraine has better weaponry to fight the russian invasion and will apply directly to berlin for permission. instead of waiting for the okay from the german chancellor,
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ukraine might be one step closer to finally getting the modern german made battle tanks. it says it urgently needs. poland. prime minister mateusz mode of ascii, said his country will apply for permission from berlin to supply its lepper tanks to ukraine. but he added that poland could also export the tanks without a green light from germany. go do us that, that even if we were not given the approval within the framework of a small coalition, if the germans were not present at this coalition, we would still send the tanks together with others to ukraine. condition for us is to build at least a small coalition of countries concerned with the issue. although germany has been providing substantial support to key if it's been criticized for hesitating when it comes to sending battle tanks or allowing others to do so. but there appears to be a shift in berlin's position by default speaking to french television on sunday, german foreign minister on elena burbock said berlin would not stand in the way if
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poland decided to send its leopard tangs to key of and that an e u foreign minister meeting a day later, she reiterated the importance of full fledged support for ukraine. mixed up giving his addressing is the salvage dish, does fios internet support on that? we as an international community and do everything we can to defend ukraine so that it wins and wins the right to live in peace and freedom again. keith has been asking western allies to supply them with modern tanks for months. you created officials say the military vehicles in particular, the leopard tanks are vital for a fighting off an anticipated kremlin offensive in the spring and retaking territory roadways they were gonna bring you up to speed now with some other stories making headlines around the worlds burkina faso has confirmed its intentions to edit its military walker ation with france. military junta, there has given france one month to pull out its troops with observers believe the junta is trying to re kindle ties with russia. some $400.00 french special forces
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are stationed there to help battle an islamist insurgency. a popular journalist in cameroon has been found dead with his body mutilated rights groups say martinez as ogo was abducted last week and his badly damaged car found outside a police station. or for some technical errors, there were gonna bring you up with some other stories. the latest is from belgium, where in brussels, hundreds of demonstrators have called on the government to push harder for the release of an aide worker held by iran. olivia van de castillo was sentenced to 40
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years in prison and $74.00 lashes on espionage charges. his supporters accused hereon of using him to force the release of a detained iranian diplomat. diplomat golf? well, e foreign ministers have agreed to impose a new set of sanctions on iran over it, and brutal repression of anti government protestors. the ministers are meeting in brussels to discuss a range of issues including punitive measures against the country. but there's been no mention of iran revolutionary guards, which some member states say should be listed as a terrorist organization. town has a task. the guards would stamping out anti government protests that have gripped around since september. let's take a closer look at them. the home of the founder of modern day iran and it's a religious government in flames. youth versus old age and the people versus the state. i mean, that state is made up of the elite revolutionary guards who control most of the
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economy and security, and the clerics lead by supreme leader, ayatollah hammond nay, who make the rules. the regime has long blamed the west for its troubles, including the latest round of protests. oh gosh ma'am, why did the enemies, why did america and the zionist regime, conspire against our nation, our country, and our revolution, and create these riots. as the supreme leader said, our country is advancing and the enemies don't want our country to make progress. only the protesters don't seem to be buying it. the brutality of the security services, the corruption of the revolutionary guards, the decline in living standards as the country strains under sanctions. all feed into a rejection of the ruling classes. and the authorities seem split on what to do about it. there were announcements that the dreaded morality police would be shut down.
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and the law requiring women to wear a head job, the relaxed, but it's unclear if either has happened. meanwhile, the executions of protesters have spurred fresh outrage. death to the dictator, the crowd shouts, not death to america as the regime would prefer. and it's not just young women and students getting involved. these auto workers walked off the job to support the demonstrations. no one knows if or when a reckoning is coming for the guards and the clerics. but the states brutality has guaranteed that the divisions will not go away. any time soon. did the special correspondent abraham is following the you foreign ministers meeting for us in brussels. and i asked her for more details on this new package of sanctions. well, claire,
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we now know that 37 new individual entries will be added to the use a list of sanctions against iran. now it's very important. the messaging that we're hearing here from brussels is that this, this lead us sanctions package. it's, of course not the 1st one. since the protests have broken out in iran is meant to target the drivers of the oppression. it's really high ranking officials within the iranian regime, and that's important because it signals the recognition from the block that you know, the people of iran, they are victims. and should there be new sanctions? they should not be the ones that have to bear the brunt of the sanctions. so individual sanctions for those driving the oppression as in the blocks words today here and presses. and we know last week the european parliament and called on member states to label iran revolutionary guards as a terrorist group. has there been any movement in that direction?
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no, there hasn't. the block has signal today that it will not list the revolutionary guard as a tear organization. the use high commissioner for foreign affairs has said that for that to happen, a european court court would 1st need to designate the revolutionary guard as a tier organization before the block can recognize it as such. but as you mentioned, the european parliament, which is, you know, a different institution within the european union has already voted for that classification. and so it certainly adds a lot of legitimacy to that demand that the revolutionary guard could eventually be listed. and we have heard, for example, from germany's foreign minister on a lena bear book that you know, that she did, she, she welcomed that, the legal, legal avenues for that classification are now being looked into. so it's certainly will continue to be part of the discussion as this brutal crack down by the iranian regime continues. thank you so much for that data data. these special correspondent,
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i abraham reporting from brussels. well, it's returned to our top story now. and the question of leopard to tanks for ukraine, i'd like to bring in prov stegner from the german bonus dog and a member of olaf schultz as social democrats. thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us today. at 4 months, ukraine has been pleading for these. german made a leopard tanks, in particular to defend itself against russia. why has this been such a difficult decision for germany to make? well, 1st of all, we've always said we do anything to support the ukraine, being able to defend itself and that all the decision that have to be made bought to make those decisions with our allies together. not as a decision from germany, and therefore it takes time and other than it's discussed in the public,
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if not germany on the break. but it's different countries with different opinions show compared to the government of colon, for instance, or what the government or francis they are different aside to that. so and bringing tanks, hiding tanks, offensive tank is a very difficult decision that has to be thought about just carefully indeed. but, but many allies, including the united states, are pushing to send these leopard to tags. isn't germany going it alone right now in it's implicit no know, well, 1st of all that there is no implicit, no, but as i said, we want to decide together with our allies and the opposite to what says have a very close talk to the american administration and, and i don't see that there are different opinions about that. and, and another thing we really have to ask ourselves because eddie pens is what's
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needed, gross military people say in the ukraine right now. whether the tank is really short and the warm spring and the end of the or they, there are only more dead bodies afterwards. now i want to ask you the question about letting others export, and also the question of a parent would appear to the public to be a parent divisions in the u. s. government, we had this weekend before administer on a lena bear boxing. germany would not stand in the way of poland exporting its german tanks, which of course it is that it is eager to do so. formally needs berlin's permission . but we haven't heard from chancellor sholtes yet. why is he remaining so tight lipped? well, usually the german government decisions like that i made in the secret committee meeting and there is a special committee of the government that's responsible for those decisions. and usually a decision is taken publicly. i don't know why the minister said
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something public to that she did so that loves our usual procedure and therefore the chancellor keeps to use as far as the procedures are concerned. but it's not really as the cry. the german doesn't stand in the way. if one of the other countries like roland, ask us to be able to attend their tanks, that we have given to them come to the ukraine. what was, do you think been fair bach suggesting if it is a break from protocol as you're suggesting because it's left journalist analysts allies international partners, speculating about what germany's position is and wondering what all of short things on the matter? no, i don't think it's very surprising that germany wouldn't stand in the way if other countries want to get their tanks level 17 they have
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through the ukraine. that's not really a surprise. it's just not you're going to communicate like that she did. so you have to ask yourself why she did and it's not his pride as far as the fact there comes. so paul in today has also said that even if permission is not granted, it's going to go ahead any way with a coalition of countries. but do you think that germany will grant the permission that it's asking? bertha said, spectrum, they publicly about that because it's we have the procedures. whether it's a good move to say we deliver the tanks no matter what the german decision is. i don't think that's a good thing to respect treaties and need provisions, but that's again cold and has what they want to do. well, i want to thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us on d w. that is alston or from the s p d. thank you,
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german parliament. thank you so much. doesn't bring you up to speed now with some other world news headlines. new parking. i've also has confirmed intentions to and it's military cooperation with the military who have given france one month to pull out its troops. observers believe the when i was trying to reach kimball ties to russia and 400 french national horses are stationed in working also to help battle and implement insurgency. a popular journalist in cameroon has been found dead with his body mutilated rights group. se martinez logo was abducted last week and his badly damaged car found out like a police station in the capitol young. so guy was known for tackling cases of corruption on his radio program. for hundreds of thousands of russians are thought to have left their home. whence in september, when president putin announced a military call up of young men to go fight in ukraine. and they've gone to
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destinations around the world by including one place that is likely familiar to them. serbia, it has long had close ties with russia, and those ties have only gotten stronger since the war broke out, or correspond it funny for char met one man who was able to escape hooton's draft. but not his propaganda. the owners didn't feel they had to change the name or the the quarry when russia invaded ukraine. customer swear, not put off. they admire, the russia leader boy did. the 13 is the only real leader in the world, political, all the others, the just politicians drago. but he looks after his country on these people will not order for many here is that an yanine near bol? great. feel that the west cause the ukraine war and yet it's we're on j. a rush and john on his flat to last september before the war, he had reported on corruption or risky pursuit,
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which became too dangerous when men started being drafted into the army. i left the because of mobilization because of the re, reese, go for to go to jail or a gold true war. well, i would not go to war anyway, so i could face so jail, torture or anything else you can bigger than i decided to leave. right. now he decided to come to serbia because he had some friends, sierra b. he has cape the putin regime. right. but not his propaganda. they have problems with information remote war. ah, i'm not in the position to tail soviet people want they should sink and holiday sheet to transform the media. oh, good people, angie sas, you feel safe. yeah, don't worry,
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but he plans to leave and he's more open when talking in private than when the camera is rolling. belgrade city center shows how close links between the countries have helped spread the russia narrative on serbian media. roches propaganda mouthpiece recently launched a local online service survey has not the most obvious place or for a few. it should a 1000 fleeing russia. many serve. see a support. the russian regime, glory to russia is painted just outside serbia's presidential office, pull, say more than half of the serbian population, cease putin as serbia's closest foreign ally. goma elizabeth, he's a good leader early because he's challenging the leech tomorrow because he shaking up the weld alder. sometimes people in serbia try to break through rushes propaganda. these protests doors are showing the names of bomb ukrainian towns in
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front of a christmas tree donated by russia. their attempt to create awareness is quickly cut short though russians are welcome in serbia, but criticism against russia lesson. a correspondent, funny for char, sent us that report and i earlier asked her why serbia is one of the main host countries for russians and exile. yeah, you really wonder why, because there's so many other countries that russians could go to with the russian passports right now due to the visa free policy. that's also in effect not only serbia, but many other countries. however, they're not that many countries that again, really well come russians right now, regardless of their policies and strangely or not. so be a, is one of those countries because of the, with close ties with russia that will embrace people who fleet from russia because of their admiration for vladimir putin. and that was really what i was really
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strange also to of the journalist that we met, that he says, yes, he's being embraced by cbs because they look up to put in and they see him as a strong leader. but he, of course, and the experience is there that he shared why grown up in russia, where the reasons why he said ok to mobilization, he has really the last dropping the bucket and he's going to leave. now what i find quite interesting though, regardless of the fact that it's really easy to move to suby are much easier to move to serbia for russians compared to other countries. because of a lot of contacts, relatives, and, and, and, and france in serbia. what i found quite strange that the ones who didn't flee or didn't leave russia for economic reasons, but really fled due to political reasons that these russians are very careful in speaking, in terms of speaking up against vladimir putin being in serbia. because obviously they do not want to offend their host country to say so, but in many ways they're quite worried for their relatives that they have left
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behind in russia. so it's a really strange situation that in a way they feel safer, but not safe enough to articulate the opposition of his regard to vladimir putin in serbia. does sound like a tricky situation for those russians in exile now, aside for from that admiration that you said many serbians feel toward vladimir putin, can you tell us what's behind those close ties between russia and serbia economic interest for one. sophia is very much interested in supporting the depopulation be cheap gas. and in fact, just a few months after the war began last year, the president of serbia president watches extended the 10 year contract, the gas prom for another 3 years, even though the country is looking for a torrent of supply of energy. it right now, it certainly is looking for cheap gas and it receives that cheap gas via russia. and of course, the various political reasons as well. the fact that russia supports the political
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stance of serbia to not recognize kosovo as an independent state is something that the suby of course, once wants to have more allies with that regard. because this is an ongoing issue. in fact, one of those issues that also slows down the process and a negotiation process to joined the european union. but what i find quite tricky here in this entire situation that since the war began last year, the war between russia, ukraine, and russia, really the relationship is complex. relationship between, between suby and russia has been exposed and suby, i really is at crossroads and needs to make a decision. does he really want to have towards the west, or does he want to keep floating that russia, which poses various other risks. thank you so much for that update that didn't you corresponded funny for char? well, i said, paintings and caves across southern europe have long, fascinated, and intrigued. but the meaning of the symbols drawn by hunter gatherers has always been a mystery. now though an amateur archaeologist in britain says he's cracked
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a code to help him decipher what those early europeans were saying. to re cave in the south of france was famous for a reason. it contains hundreds of animal paintings drawn by hunter gatherers, tens of thousands of years ago, like in numerous other european caves. so many of the paintings are accompanied by mysterious markings like these thoughts. for a long time, no one knew what to make of them until bon bacon. an independent researcher noticed a pattern each animal has a dominant number. and these numbers, a sense of course, is a 3, bison and rocks are 4. red d roars, 7 ibex or 7. fisher 3, we did, we had decided probably had to be a time to store some description. because not everyone's don't have walks, not everyone's killed 4 ox units that had to be had to be time. after evaluating
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hundreds of drawings, bacon and other researchers concluded that this must have been an ancient calendar . according to the research, as it was used to record sophisticated information about the animals, the horse with 3 dots, for example, would mean these animals made 3 lunar faces after the beginning of spring. and remember, they will have records of effectively all the animals in the area are all the major . so they have a fairly good idea. what animals are at their caves when they're, they're what they're doing. generally the week when they come. and generally, when they need to quite precise, so they contract maybe 10 or 12 different praise be scenes in their area very, very accurately. in the hostile environment where people migrated with the animals,
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this information could make a difference between surviving and dying. bacon says that the calendar has been used for at least 10000 years until the end of the last ice age. it has been found in caves all over europe, from portugal to ukraine. it shows that hunter gatherers where by no means primitive, but rather clever people who use this form of writing to store vital information sports. now and in the bonus lake, i've already had darkman ended up on the right side of a 7 goal match against alden park. besides traded goals until dark mans pounced late in the game to seal a memorable way. dork maids jude bellingham, dazzled the defensive out bird to open his glory. moves like this show why the 19 year old is among the most sought after talent in the buddhist lega. ah, shortly before the break, the scoring intensified out. berg answer through on
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