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because with this era i'm a be investigated by the westminster government philosophy on video. many scotts help for a 2nd referendum on scottish independence. in october 2023. the 1st referendum was held in 2014 and 55 per cent of scots voted to stay in the u. k. heartbroken, it felt like somebody had died. so the uncanny thinking about that now gets me upset with the national situation is coming to a head in the background. opposition to independence is also quietly gathering support the popular population in scotland would not be willing to undergo a period of austerity in order to gain independence. ah,
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we are in for fun. a small town about 100 kilometers north of edinburgh. it's far removed from the politics of westminster. sandra macpherson is out shopping. she's heading for a social supermarket set up 3 years ago. the concept is to sell expired or rejected goods to the socially disadvantaged at lower prices. sandra's marriage collapsed during the coven 19 pandemic. now she's a single parent and retraining as a beautician she needs to save money wherever she can go. it just because everything else is going on. all the bells. oh, the at the, even in that your normal supermarket there should make an ice in peace and shall juice. so this place is definitely an ideal for people like me. now
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as the months have gone on, i've been using it more naturally now and definitely noticed a big savings in my shopping bells. right. you get hard enough people in need are eligible for a membership card and can do their shopping. here we've seen an increase quite a considerable increase in the right people signing up and becoming a member. we've got a law of in work poverty. and now, which is a situation that you would never have thought a you would, you would even help technology called and work over a, you know, it shouldn't be such a thing. lassie, chunky was at cash or card. i thought, here's what you were to 90. please ah, the 1st crisis was bricks,
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it which 62 percent of voters in scotland opposed. then came the pandemic and the war in ukraine. the resulting rise and energy prices has hit scott's harder than other western europeans costs. here are twice as high as in the euro's own. shops in florida are closing down one by one with the national health service also in crisis. winter threatens to be precarious for many people. hey, can be pretty speedy. so yeah, i like every time i boil the case i'm, i'm just thinking how much, how much, how many pennies is that when it be like, oh, joseph and noah. sandra's 2 sons have to make sacrifices to their games console eats up electricity. but sandra doesn't want to economize on that just yet. for now,
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the electric light in the room stays off. they can manage with daylight. the same of the shell or the shower is actually more steady. oh, i find myself no. in yells that said you had 5 minutes. you're clean, you think as the shower i we can't afford for the hot water just running. oh, whether in rural, for fha or big cities like glasgow, many scotts are going through tough times. the gap between rich and poor is widening in the crisis, as can be seen all over the inner city. neil
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mikka is also feeling the crunch and blames politicians and westminster in his opinion. the devolved scottish government is not completely sovereign and is kept dependent on the u. k. government and many financial matters. o. b, i me, niel is rehearsing some songs with his friend, henry riley. westminster system is, is an affordable. it can be changed from within. so it needs to be smashed up. scotland, a great country is a great society, but people need to be empowered. so that basically what we've done as a, say, a sale, say this mission statement of hostem, regular marches, mash, mobilizations for independence every year until independence is one. so that's the, that's the task. well, they're about to perform in glasgow city center deal. they're scraping a living as busters the way the la lou. these i
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neil mikka is divorced with 2 children and has to pay maintenance. he's looking for a job, any kind of job. until he find one he hopes to make ends meet, singing traditional folk songs about scottish heroes. he also runs a pro independence organisation all under one banner. the next big demonstration he is organized is the day after to morrow. he checks the news online and sees one conservative newspaper headline, edinburgh to be plagued by extreme nationalist march demanding an end to london rule. that is pretty sure, i mean, i'm the founder of the organization. i do have my name to this persistence with my name on the paperwork a and the authorities always try and you know, if you had an expediency trying and who pray, sean uses all of you like everything goes wrong. anything is your fault
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ah ah, yeah. a scottish 1st minister nicholas sturgeon and her scottish national party, the s and p have announced a 2nd referendum on scottish independence on october 19th, 2023. at the time of filming a judgment from the u. k. supreme court was pending on whether a 2nd referendum could be held without the british governments consent. i why should we ask the english supreme court? basically, the court of the british state, which is not going to come down in our favor, why we ask a name and given them not have r, y be given them. that makes no sense. we have given a number. the dame effects mandates to the a 70 government 8th and in scotland the people are solved and we have already said
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we weren't ready for them. we've given the legal mandate for that, so nobody should stand in the way of that. not waste minister should de blocker as such, but neither should discourage government allow them to blow. it's just ridiculous, i oh, what is caused the crisis? is it the ongoing financial dependence on westminster in so many matters? or has the scottish government been mis spending funds? ah, we travel to stonehaven a little farther north ob scotlands east coast. ah,
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alan sutherland, who retired over a year ago as opposed to the scottish governments plans for a new referendum. as a former i t manager, he advised companies and sold software worldwide. he's earned himself a comfortable nest egg for his retirement, which he can now enjoy with his german wife at, hey, geena, at ish, they don't have to worry much about the cost of living. i mean, argue against the pin is the independence that has been proposed on to build up to on the activities of this and p to get here or no was school needs independence is, is got to work. oh, got to be successful. guerria and the home proved they can do that. besides gardening, alan has taken up a new hobby describing himself as a scott and a brit. he's actively organizing protests against plans for scottish and dependence . there's time for a quick coffee before he returns to his computer. his wife supports him and his
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activities. my job does it depends on me, keep him osha of god voice, always assume for all number of years. i know her get to in front of people and put to persuade people are now a pensioner. alan has considerable influence on current debate from his desk. actually, he may be under the radar, but he is very effective. oh, we head back to for fha home of many supporters of scottish independence. sandra is one of them. they feel they've been hung out to dry by the government in westminster and impression exacerbated by the current crisis. so that was she here . we started marching, i think with a probably $21718.00. so yes, since, since they sandra follows the all under one banner movement on facebook and reads
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about the margin, edinburgh, we followed them and looked for an altercation of where the next march is going to be held. but 1st, it's time to look at the gas meter. once a month, sandra reads the meter and enters the result in an app. she hopes that economizing on a heating will reduce her monthly bills and people are hoping to make the choice with the can eat or heat their homes. basically, they're hoping to make a choice. and in my case, they say i have going children. so i have to make sure that they eat so my priority is to make sure that they are fed and then for the heat,
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we'll just just put more layers to stay warm in the house. you want, they have to be clear. but the same thing you, they're young don't, you shouldn't have to be right in a bad things like that. bells, energy prices and things. i'm credit, i'm calling less money one day before the pro independence march. neil is packing the van in glasgow with his fellow protesters. bruno and lynn are also members of all under one banner. and need to do, i'll take another one. they need a p, a system sound equipment and
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a mobile stage. all of it has to be set up in edinburgh. tomorrow morning before the pandemic neal managed to mobilize up to 200000 people for one demonstration. but the cove at 19 restrictions on large events were a huge obstacle for his marches. it's difficult to get the estimate, but maybe 5 to 10000 people. if we get that. if that happens to model wilbur ideal, a burial again tonight because where there's not going to be good but it scotland and that evolution isn't, is going to be one in the sunshine. so yeah, let neil and his team say scotland has always been poorer than the south of the u. k. they blamed the government and westminster for a lack of financial support.
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the tory party of keeping the money for the rich people, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer and i serve you same make poverty has to be. we're sick of being skin it up. so a 2nd tie of the beam scan up here. scotland as rich in our search for you, we have, we help you all the more than you in your bush wins water. at course we have the oil to they tell us that the assets off the scottish coast have been exploited by british companies for decades with practically nothing left over for the scots in the u. k. the methods that scotland subsidized by england. but if you look at the, the statistics, it's a scotland subsidizing with this the other way around. so it's a colonial situation. it's a potus ethical situation. and so why, why should we be supporting a, the people of england and the union, which doesn't say of the people of scotland makes no sense. because talk after
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packing the van neil has a look online as always you go, the debate is coming to a had there to neil has his eye on one particular website. scotland matters, an influential body run by pro unionists who opposed scottish independent contradictions. scotland matters because for these people scores and doesn't matter the link to make the weapons against the tenants, that it's all about. it's all nicholas engines plan. that's all her as her quest to get it done. but they forget that we've elected her and that we believe to be s and p numerous times and given democratic monday. so the trying, you know, circumvent and the writing for independence is the people that drive in it. but obviously not all people. the scotland matters website is alan sutherlands work . he's noticed how support for independence has been increasing and recent poll
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started. so a month there's almost 4 years ago. vote for the pre k parties is going to and so radio was to try and get beyond the bubble of people as a core would be 3 or 400000 that really was going on and in some we involved. so the whole thing was this for informing people of the to say the arguments. allen designs campaigns for social media, cartoons and means to caricature the broken promises of 1st minister nicholas sturgeon, such as failing to deliver on climate targets. got a cartoonist to draw some social media, things like, you know, voice united against independence, move this course in the battle of good social media, facebook because so we use, we send the images to all these facebook pages and they,
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they share them before the last, the scottish parliament election, allen launched a poster campaign showing the titanic failures of the 1st minister. slogans were plastered all over constituencies where the s and p 's majority looked precarious. education policy failures were also lampooned. after all, the condition of schools is also a matter for the regional government, not london. we are unemployed in a few of the seats, there was a tactical voting campaign to vote against s n p a because they're gonna, they will come back to see if this is a monday for another referendum and which is what to do. so what we did was the material said the screwed up squash education and then the oldest of all poses, they're not using them will do it for them. for anybody indeed, in the long governing s n p was unable to regain its absolute majority and can now
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only govern in cooperation with the green party. allen is thinking of new ways of keeping scotland in the united kingdom. the next day sandra sets off on a 2 hour drive to the capital with noah and joseph. they want to join the pro independence march. hm click the end button to des moines. he excited sandra tells us that the bus connection is not very good. so they're driving, she's put around 50 euro's worth of fuel in the tank. a small fortune for her. i budgeted money for pay joe for to day because we've known about this march for quite a while. and i am,
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it's our 1st one since 2019 so we're m. where did the looking forward to getting back at it? what we will you be john think what did we one plan to be one did? oh yea. ah ah . back n stonehaven allen and of a gina are also on their way, but to a different event the geena english tells us that they no longer have contact with some of their friends and neighbors just like breaks it. the question of independence is incredibly divisive. as is towards
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anything else, in my opinion, it's become really important where you stand, woman, steve's yeah. said mind typed in doors. there was a time in germany when it was important to know whether people were catholic or protestant by those times are over. now. thank goodness shortland, so that's a month but in scotland now a days when you meet a new person mover or even if you know them well, people want to know on which side are you on this stuff so that again, they are meeting fellow campaigners from scotland matters all of them are against to leaving the u. k. on johnston terrace, edinburgh. the march is about to start. neil is handing out the banners for people to hold up during his all under one banner march.
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with the way, let's get a. this isn't what was forecast. so with a the, the forces with women are warranted to leave before a judge to stay in lieu of taking her by england. she went but yeah, yes, i
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the procession starts at 1 o'clock and heads down the royal mile and central edinburgh to the scottish parliament building at hollywood. ah, neil documents at all for the social media account of his all under one banner movement. this is good reaches all across the globe and it shows its goldens awakening when it, when neil estimates that there are about 7000 marchers undeterred by rail strikes and traffic jams, they've traveled from all parts of scotland. ah, these gentlemen are attending a family celebration at the classy hotel behind them. they won't be joining the
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march. ah, i'm not the support of independence. i believe we're better you like to pick them while you but because of the support but opposite us a greater would puzzle. 3 out of your magic of the bottle on the speak. successful with a highly successful vision and the like. getting them in the west. the water ah, instead of talking to each other, people stick to their own camps. in stonehaven allen sutherland and hygienists meet their allies and the venerable unionist club and 50. they joined barney, crocket, labor, politician, and former mayor of aberdeen and mark openshaw. allen's partner at scotland matters and they all know that support for independence has been growing over the years.
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current polls indicate that a slim majority would now vote yet to scottish independence. and the stay present. the people in scotland are unchangeable, nor fair for san an immovably. yes. and it's the people at them as the we need to be get. not when he be try convincingly outside. i mean the people that are already yeah, that commit delay a post i separation. yes. so the group need to find convincing arguments to disprove those of the pro independence movement, such as the claim that only british firms and not the scottish population profit from scottish energy resources. motors just voting yes. it wasn't just scotlands oil. scotland was part of the u. k, it's the entire u case oil. if, if there was a separation from the u. k, in my view of their wood, and there was still a lot of revenue to be had from oil. when, when the energy there would have to be a huge negotiation, and if you think how much trouble it was to sort out breaks it. um, yeah, that,
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that sort of a negotiation would be massive. so they hoped to convince undecided voters with their arguments and presentations, news letters, and on social media. i think where i come in is 2 times. you put that gap between the harsh realities of mark speaking about our population as age and quicker than the rest of the yuki. and this puts an enormous again, additional strength on public funding. so it is almost inconceivable to come up with a feasible plan or a feasible plan that doesn't entail enormous sacrifice and the early decades of independence in scotland. that's never the case. they know they can't sell it. if they say it's going to be har. so they have to say, well, no, it won't be. honda will be very easy. this, it will have to just be based on a motion and ignore the figures all be fine
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with them. there are also questions regarding a hard border with england and the currency who has got it right after getting stuck in traffic, sandra and her children just make it as the march draws to a close. it's an expensive family outing, but she says it's all been worth while. ah, it me says that we are now and then i'm hopefully other people sad thing. notice and fingers crossed the filter next to you we guy with while the tail end of the demo is still marching, musicians,
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neil and henry set up in the tent next to the stage. they're glad of the chance to perform their songs. traditional pieces about scottish freedom fighters as relevant as ever them. finally, they're getting to play to a larger audience. so he's going what we are both his way. a big one. yeah, quite a big one today. so a wee bit nervous, but nobody watches i just pay whatever it takes to what i have the vin on this case. so the day is a success for nationalists. but shortly afterwards, the supreme court rules that the scottish government cannot hold a referendum without the consent of the british parliament. the s n p has declared that the next u. k. general election will be a de facto referendum for scottish voters, but it will not be held until 2024. asleep. jones with
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