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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  January 24, 2023 4:30am-5:01am CET

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oh, as we take on the world, 8 hours, i do all this. yes, we're all about the stories that matter to you. whatever it takes, 5 policemen follow being paid go your we are your is actually on fire made for mines. ah ah, the union flag still flies over scotland, but for how much longer struggling with the economic impact of rex it compounded by the energy crisis. more and more scots are going through a difficult time. for many, there was only one way out of my talk with dana,
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what independence, because with this era i will be most viewed by the westminster government philosophy under the of many scott's help for a 2nd referendum on scottish independence. in october 2023. the 1st referendum was held in 2014 and 55 per cent of scots voted to stay in the u. k. heartbroken. it felt like somebody had died. somebody i can't, and thinking about that now gets me upset with the national situation is coming to a head in the background. opposition to independence is also quietly gathering support the popular population in scotland would not be willing to undergo a period of austerity in order to gain independence. ah, we are in for, for
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a small town about 100 kilometers north of edinburgh. it's far removed from the politics of westminster. sandra macpherson is out shopping. she's heading for a social supermarket set up 3 years ago. the concept is to sell expired or rejected goods to the socially disadvantaged at lower prices. sandra's marriage collapsed during the coven 19 pandemic. now she's a single parent and retraining as a beautician. she needs to save money wherever she can at just because everything else is going on. all the bells of the at the even, and that your normal supermarket, there's a vague and paste in peace. and the child you saw this place is definitely an ideal for her people like me now as the months have gone on,
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i've been using it more like, literally night and death. lena is the big savings in my shopping bells. right. if hard, hard people in need are eligible for a membership card and can do their shopping. here we've seen an increase quite considerable increase and that by if people signing up in becoming a member, we've got a law of in work pull 40 am now, which is a situation that you would never have thought a you would, you would even call that terminology called and work over a, you know, it shouldn't be such a thing in the last each kid was at cash or carter, i thought, here fucking with to 90 please. ah, the 1st crisis was bricks. it which 62 percent of voters in scotland opposed. then
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came the pandemic and the war in ukraine. the resulting rise and energy prices has hit scott's harder than other western europeans. costs here are twice as high as in the euro's own shops and for, for our closing down one by one. with the national health service also in crisis winter threatened to be precarious for many people ah, 18 b petty theory. so yeah, i like every time i boil the case i'm, i'm just thinking how much, how much, how many pennies is that when a b o. joseph and noah, sandra's 2 sons have to make sacrifices to their games console eats up electricity . but sandra doesn't want to economize on that just yet. for now,
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the electric light in the room stays off. they can manage with daylight. the seam of the shell or the shower is actually more skating, though i find myself knives in you know that, that you've had 5 minutes, you're clean. you can get the shower. i. we can't afford for the hot water just running whether in rural, for fha or big cities like glasgow, many scots are going through tough times. the gap between rich and poor is widening in the crisis, as can be seen all over the inner city. neil
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mc: i is also feeling the crunch and blames politicians and westminster in his opinion . the devolved scottish government is not completely sovereign and is kept dependent on the u. k. government and many financial matters o. b, i niel is rehearsing some songs with his friend, henry riley. westminster system is, is an affordable. it can be changed from within. so it needs to be smashed up. scotlands a great country is a great society, but people need to be empowered. so that basically what we've done as a say, a sale. so this mission statement of hostem regular marches, mash, mobilizations for independence every year until independence is one. so that's the, that's the task. well, they're about to perform and glasgow city center deal. they're scraping a living as busters the way the la lou. these i
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neil mikka is divorced with 2 children and has to pay maintenance. he's looking for a job, any kind of job until he finds one he hopes to make ends meet, singing traditional folk songs about scottish heroes. he also runs a pro independence organisation all under one banner. the next big demonstration he has organized is the day after to morrow. he checks the news online and sees one conservative newspaper headline, edinburgh to be plagued by extreme nationalist march demanding an end to london rule. that is very sure, i mean i'm the founder of the organization. i do have my name to this persistence with my name on the paperwork a and the authorities always try and you know, if you had an expediency trying and who pray, sean uses all of you like everything goes wrong. anything is your fault
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ah ah yes. yeah. with scottish 1st minister, nicholas sturgeon and her scottish national party, the s and p have announced a 2nd referendum on scottish independence on october 19th, 2023. at the time of filming a judgment from the u. k. supreme court was pending on whether a 2nd referendum could be held without the british governments consent. i should we ask the english supreme court, basically, the court of the british state, which is not going to come down in our favor. why we ask a name and given them not, however why we given them the phone makes no sense. we have given a number, the dame effective mandates to the a 70 government. 8th and in scotland, the people are solved and we have already said we weren't ready for them. we've
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given the legal mandate for that, so nobody should started in the way of that. not waste minister should de blocker as such, but neither should the weiss government allow them to look at. it's just ridiculous, ah, ah, what is caused the crisis? is that the ongoing financial dependence on westminster in so many matters? or has the scottish government been mis spending funds? ah, we travel to stonehaven a little farther north ob scotlands east coast. ah, alan sutherland, who retired over
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a year ago as opposed to the scottish governments plans for a new referendum. as a former i t manager, he advised companies and sold software worldwide. he's earned himself a comfortable nest egg for his retirement, which he can now enjoy with his german wife at higgins, at ish, they don't have to worry much about the cost of living. i mean, argue against independence is the independence that has been proposed on to build up to on the activities of this and p to get here or no school needs independence is, is got to work. oh, got to be successful. gary and the home proved they can do that. besides gardening, alan has taken up a new hobby describing himself as a scott and a brit. he's actively organizing protests against plans for scottish independence. there's time for a quick coffee before he returns to his computer. his wife supports him and his
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activities. my job doesn't depend on me. keep him almost shut of god voice. always assume phone number of years. i know her get to in front of people and put to persuade people are now a pensioner. alan has considerable influence on current debate from his desk. actually, he may be under the radar, but he is very effective. oh, we head back to for fha home of many supporters of scottish independence. sandra is one of them. they feel they've been hung out to dry by the government in westminster and impression exacerbated by the current crisis. so that was she, her we started marching, i think with probably 201718. so yes, since since day sandra follows the all under one banner movement on facebook and
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reads about the margin, edinburgh we follow them and look for locations of we are late. the next marches are going to be held. but 1st, it's time to look at the gas meter. once a month, sandra reads the meter and enters the result in an app. she hopes that economizing on heating will reduce her monthly bills. the people are having to make the choice where there is the can eat or heat their homes. basically they're having to make a choice. and, and my case, i'll go, they obviously i have good wing children, so i have to make sure that they eat so my priority is to make sure that they are fades and then for the heat to build, just in,
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just put on more layers to stay warm and the hives you when they have to be a li are but at the same time? yeah. you, they're young. did. did you have, you know, they shouldn't have to be worrying about things like that. bells and energy prices and things. i'm credit. i'm for a fed causing less money one day before the pro independence march. neil is packing the van in glasgow with his fellow protesters. bruno and lynn are also members of all under one banner. with receive the door, i'll take another one. they need a p, a system sound equipment and a mobile stage. all of it has to be set up in edinburgh to morrow morning.
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before the pandemic neal managed to mobilize up to 200000 people for one demonstration. but the cove at 19 restrictions on large events were a huge obstacle for his marches. it's difficult to get the estimate, but maybe 5 to 10000 people. if we get that, if that happens to model bilbry, i deal a barrel again tonight because where there's not going to be good but it, scotland and that evolution isn't, is going to be one in the sunshine. so yeah, let's with neil and his team say scotland has always been poorer than the south of the u. k. they blamed the government and westminster for a lack of financial support. the tory party of keeping the money for the rich people. the rich get rich and the
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poor get poorer and thus have you seen make poverty has to be your 2nd be in skin it up. so a 2nd tie of the beam scan up here, scotland as rich and i say it for you. we have, we have all the more than use it in your bush, wins water. at course we have the oil to they tell us that the assets off the scottish coast have been exploited by british companies for decades with practically nothing left over for the scots fin. the u. k. the methods that scotland subsidized by england. but if you look at the statistics, it's a scotland subsidizing with this the other way around. so it's a colonial situation. it's a parasitical situation. and so why, why should we be supporting a, the people of england and the union, which doesn't say of the people of scotland makes no sense. because talk after
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packing the van neil has a look online as always, have you go? the debate is coming to a had their to neil has his eye on one particular website. scotland matters, an influential body run by pro unionists who oppose scottish independence. contradictions, scotland matters, because for these people scored and doesn't matter the late to make the weapons against the tenants, that it's all about. it's all nicholas engines plan. that's all her heart quest to get it done. but they forget that we've elected her and we believe this in numerous times and given democratic monday. so the trying, you know, circumvent and for independence is the people that drive in it. but obviously not all people. the scotland matters website is alan sutherlands work . he's noticed how support for independence has been increasing and recent polls
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started. so a month is almost 4 years ago. vote for the pre k parties is going to and so we're right there was to try and get beyond the bubble of people as a core would be 3 or 400000 that really was going on in some we involved. so the whole thing was to inform people of the to say the arguments allen designs campaigns for social media, cartoons, and means to caricature the broken promises of 1st minister nicholas sturgeon, such as failing to deliver on climate targets. got kirsten if the draw of some social media sites like euclidean and voice nightly. his independence moved to source and the bill of good social media. facebook occurs, so we use, we send the images to all these facebook pages. and the, the,
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the sheila, before the last, the scottish parliament election, allen launched a poster campaign, showing the titanic failures of the 1st minister. slogans were plastered all over constituencies where the s and p 's majority looked precarious. education policy failures were also lampooned. after all, the condition of schools is also a matter for the regional government, not london. we are unemployed, that a few of the seats of the title voting campaign to vote against s and p a because they're gonna, they will come by. this is what this is a monday for another referendum which is what it did. so what we did was to say material sin the screwed up scores, education, then a chest. the oldest of all person, though not using them will do a volvo vote for anybody. or indeed the long governing s. n. p was unable to regain its absolute majority and can now only govern in co operation with the green
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party. allan is thinking of new ways of keeping scotland in the united kingdom. the next day sandra sets off on a 2 hour drive to the capital with noah and joseph. they want to join the pro independence march hm. to end. but to de moines, he excited sandra tells us that the bus connection is not very good. so they're driving, she's put around 50 euro's worth of fuel in the tank. a small fortune for her. i budgeted money for pick jail for to day because was known about this march for quite a while. i and i am, it's our 1st one since 2019 so we're m. where did the looking forward
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to getting back at it? what we will you be chanting? what did we one plan to we one did. oh yea. ah . back in stonehaven allen and the gina are also on their way, but to a different event the geena english tells us that they no longer have contact with some of their friends and neighbors just like breaks it. the question of independence is incredibly divisive. as is towards
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anything else, in my opinion, it's become really important where you stand woman, steve's set minded sites and thought there was a time in germany when it was important to know whether people were catholic or protestant for by those times they're over now. thank goodness shortland, so that's that month. but in scotland now a days when you meet a new person move i make notes. or even if you know them well, people want to know on which side are you on? this stuff that i gave there, meeting fellow campaigners from scotland matters. all of them are against leaving the u. k. on johnston terrace, edinburgh. the march is about to start. neil is handing out the banners for people to hold up during his all under one banner march.
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with the way, let's get a. this isn't what we forecast. so here a, the, the force is with we never wanted to read before a judge to stem, but we were taken by england. we went, but yes, yes, i
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the procession starts at 1 o'clock and heads down the royal mile in central edinburgh to the scottish parliament building at hollywood. ah, neil documents at all for the social media account of his all under one banner movement. this is good reaches all across the globe and it shows as goldens awakening. and we're going to when neil estimates that there are about $7000.00 marchers undeterred by rail strikes and traffic jams, they've traveled from all parts of scotland. ah, these gentlemen are attending a family celebration at the clathy hotel behind them. they won't be joining the
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march. ah, i'm not the support of independence. i believe we're both of you that you like to take the while you but because of the support with opposite us, like rachel, with other 3 out of your up magic of the bottle of on that's been successful with a highly successful vision and the like getting them in the west, the water ah, instead of talking to each other, people stick to their own camps. in stonehaven allen sutherland and hygienists meet their allies and the venerable unionist club minister and 50. they joined barney, crocket, labor, politician and former mayor of aberdeen and mark openshaw. allen's partner at scotland matters, and they all know that support for independence has been growing over the years.
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current polls indicate that a slim majority would now vote yes to scottish independence. and the stay for sale, the people in scotland are unchangeable. nur fair for sand and immovably yes. and it's if you put them as the we need to be get, not would he be try convincingly outside of the room that people are already? yeah, that's chemically opposed. i separation. yes. so the group need to find convincing arguments to disprove those of the pro independence movement, such as the claim that only british firms and not the scottish population profit from scottish energy resources. it's not as simple as just boating. it wasn't just scotlands oil, scotland was part of the u. k. it's the entire u. case oil. if, if there was a separation from the u. k, in my view of their wood and there was still a lot of revenue to be had from oil. when, when the energy there would have to be a huge negotiation of if you think how much trouble it was to sorta breaks it. um
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that that sort of a negotiation would be massive. so they hoped to convince undecided voters with their arguments and presentations. newsletters and on social media. i think where i come in is trying to point the gulf between the harsh realities of mark speaking about our population as age and quicker than the rest of the u. k. and this puts an enormous, again, additional stream on public funding. so it is almost inconceivable to come up with a feasible plan or a feasible pipeline that doesn't entail enormous sacrifice and the early decades of independence in scotland, that's never the case. they know they can't sell it. if they say it's going to be hard. so they have to say, well, no, it won't be hard to be very easy. this will have to just be based on a motion and ignore the figures that will be fine.
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there are also questions regarding a hard border with england and the currency who has got it right ah, after getting stuck in traffic, sandra and her children just make it as the march draws to a close. it's an expensive family outing, but she says it's all been worth while. ah, me says that we are 9 said hopefully other people with bad take notice and fingers crossed the toolbar next to you the guy with. 6 while the tail end of the demo is still marching, musicians,
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neil and henry set up in the tent next to the stage. they're glad of the chance to perform their songs. traditional piece is about scottish freedom fighters as relevant as ever for them. finally, they're getting to play to a larger audience. oh boy, what. we are both his way a big one. you can play a big one today. so we but never spent, nobody watched. i just want to take the vin on this case. the day is a success for nationalists, but shortly afterwards, the supreme court rules that the scottish government cannot hold a referendum without the consent of the british parliament. the s n p has declared that the next u. k. general election will be a de facto referendum for scottish voters, but it will not be held until 2024. tenancy jones with hon.
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