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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  January 24, 2023 10:30pm-11:01pm CET

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da vinci's, mysterious masterpiece. ah, this perhaps the greatest leonardo masterpiece in the collection of the louvre and no, it is not the mona lisa. it is the virgin of the rocks, 2 versions, multiple copies, and a hidden drawing. was there another symbolic meaning to this beautiful painting that perhaps we just don't understand today? the search for answers starts february 10th on d, w. i . the union flags still flies over scotland, but for how much longer? struggling with the economic impact of rex it compounded by the energy crisis. more and more scots are going through
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a difficult time. for many there was only one way out of my talk again to one independence because with this era i'm a be investigated by the westminster government philosophy already of many, scotts hope for a 2nd referendum on scottish independence. in october 2023, the 1st referendum was held in 2014 and 55 per cent of scots voted to stay in the u . k. heartbroken, it felt like somebody had died. so the account and thinking about it now gets me upset with the national situation is coming to a head in the background. opposition to independence is also quietly gathering support the poppy. the population in scotland would not be willing to undergo a period of austerity in order to gain independence. ah,
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we're in for, for a small town about 100 kilometers north of edinburgh. it's far removed from the politics of westminster. sandra macpherson is out shopping. she's heading for a social supermarket set up 3 years ago. the concept is to sell expired or rejected goods to the socially disadvantaged at lower prices. sandra's marriage collapsed during the coven 19 pandemic. now she's a single parent and retraining as a beautician. she needs to save money wherever she can at just because everything else is going on. all the bells at the, at the, even in that your normal supermarket, there's a vague, an ice in peace and don't use. so this place is definitely an
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ideal for her people like me now as the months have gone on, i've been using it more regularly now and definitely noticed a big savings in my shopping bells. right. you get hard hard people in need are eligible for a membership card and can do their shopping. here we've seen an increase quite considerable increase and the right people signing up and becoming a member. we've got a law of in work pull 40 am now, which is a situation that you would never have thought a you would, you would even help a chairman ology called and worked over a, you know, it shouldn't be such a thing in the last, each kid was at cache cocked, i thought, here, fucking with to 90, please. ah,
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the 1st crisis was bricks. it, which 62 percent of voters in scotland opposed. then came the pandemic and the war in ukraine. the resulting rise and energy prices has hit scott's harder than other western europeans costs. here are twice as high as in the euro's own. shops and forfeit are closing down one by one with the national health service also in crisis . winter threatens to be precarious for many people. ah, they can be pretty steep. so yeah, i like every time i boil the coastline, i'm just thinking how much, how much, how many pennies is that when a d. o. joseph and noah, sandra's 2 sons have to make sacrifices to their games console eats up electricity
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. but sandra doesn't want to economize on that just yet. for now, the electric light in the room stays off. they can manage with daylight. the seam of the shell or the shower is actually more skating, though i find myself knives in you know that, that you've had 5 minutes, you're clean, you can get the shower. i, we can't afford for the whole water just running whether in rural, for fha or big cities like glasgow. many scotts are going through tough times. the gap between rich and poor is widening in the crisis, as can be seen all over the inner city.
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neil mac, i is also feeling the crunch and blames politicians and westminster in his opinion . the devolved scottish government is not completely sovereign and is kept dependent on the u. k. government and many financial matters o b, i me, neil is rehearsing some songs with his friend. henry riley. westman for system is, is an affordable. it can be changed from within. so it needs to be smashed up. scotland is a great country, is a great society, but people need to be empowered so that basically what we've done as a say a sales. ready the submissions statement of hostem regular marches, mash, mobilizations for independence every year until independence is one. so that's the, that's the task. well, they're about to perform and glasgow city center. do their scraping
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a living as busters in the way the lou stays with neil mikaya is divorced with 2 children and has to pay maintenance. he's looking for a job, any kind of job until he finds one he hopes to make ends meet, singing traditional folk songs about scottish heroes. he also runs a pro independence organisation all under one banner. the next big demonstration he is organized is the day after to morrow. he checks the news online and sees one conservative newspaper headline, edinburgh to be plagued by extreme nationalist march demanding an end to london rule. that is pressure. i mean, i'm the founder of the organization. i do have my name to those positions with my name on the paperwork a and the authorities always try and you know, if you had an expedient to try and, and who pray? sean uses all of you like everything goes wrong. anything is your fault.
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ah. ah, yeah. a scottish 1st minister nicholas sturgeon and her scottish national party. the s and p have announced a 2nd referendum on scottish independence on october 19th, 2023. at the time of filming a judgment from the u. k, supreme court was pending on whether a 2nd referendum could be held without the british governments consent. i should we ask the english shipping cor, basically the court of the british state, which is not going to come down in our favor. why we ask a name and given them not, however, why we given them the makes no sense. we have given a number that they have affected mandates to the a 70 government 8th and in scotland the people are shelven. we have already said we
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weren't ready for them. we've given the legal mandate for that. so nobody should stand in the way of that. not waste minister, should they blocker as such, but neither should the government allow them to block. it is just ridiculous. ah, ah, what is caused the crisis? is it the ongoing financial dependence on westminster in so many matters? or has the scottish government been mis spending funds? ah, we travel to stonehaven a little farther north ob scotlands east coast. ah,
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alan sutherland, who retired over a year ago as opposed to the scottish governments plans for a new referendum. as a former i t manager, he advised companies and sold software worldwide. he's earned himself a comfortable nest egg for his retirement, which he can now enjoy with his german wife. they geena at ish. they don't have to worry much about the cost of living. i mean, argue against the pin is the independence that has been proposed on to build up to on the activities of this and p to get here or no school needs independence is, is got to work. oh, good to be successful. gary in the home proved they can do that. besides gardening, alan has taken up a new hobby describing himself as a scott and a brit. he's actively organizing protests against plans for scottish and dependence . there's time for
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a quick coffee before he returns to his computer. his wife supports him and his activities. my job doesn't depend on me. keep him almost shut of god voice. always assume phone number of years. i know her get to in front of people and go to proceed. people are now a pensioner. alan has considerable influence on current debate from his desk. actually, he may be under the radar, but he is very effective. oh, we had back to for fha home of many supporters of scottish independence. sandra is one of them. they feel they've been hung out to dry by the government in westminster and impression exacerbated by the current crisis. so that was she her we started marching a thing, a probably $21718.00. so yes, since,
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since then sandra follows the all under one banner movement on facebook and reads about the margin edinburgh we follow them and look for both occasions of we are late, the next marches are going to be held. but 1st, it's time to look at the gas meter. once a month, sandra reads the meter and enters the result in an app. she hopes that economizing on a heating will reduce her monthly bills. the people are having to make the choice where there is the can eat or heat their homes basically they're having to make a choice. and, and my keith, are they obviously i have good wing children, so i have to make sure that they eat so my priority is to make sure that they are
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fed and then for the heat to build just in just put on more layers to stay warm in the hives you want that they have to be a li are, but at the same time, yeah you, they're young. they don't have you and they shouldn't have to be worrying about things like bells, energy prices and things. so i'm for, if i'm for calling less money one day before the pro independence march nealus packing the van in glasgow with his fellow protesters. bruno and lynn are also members of all under one banner folks with the door. i'll take another one,
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they need a p, a system sound equipment and a mobile stage. all of it has to be set up in edinburgh to morrow morning. before the pandemic neal managed to mobilize up to 200000 people for one demonstration. but the cove at 19 restrictions on large events were a huge obstacle for his marches. it's difficult to get the estimate maybe 5 to 10000 people. if we get our, if that happens to model will be i deal a barrier. good turner, because where there's not going to be good, but it, scotland and that evolution isn't is going to be one in the sunshine. so yeah, let me say neil and his team say scotland has always been poorer than the south of the u. k. they blamed the government and westminster for a lack of financial support.
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the tory party of keeping the money for the rich people, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer, and i should be your same make poverty has to be your 2nd be in skin. it up, so a 2nd tie of the been stand up here, scotland as rich in our search for you. we hunt, we help you all. no more than you and your bush wins. water. at course we have the oil to. they tell us that the assets off the scottish coast have been exploited by british companies for decades with practically nothing left over for the scots in the u. k. a. the methods that scotland subsidized by england. but if you look at the, the statistics, it's a scotland subsidizing with this the other way around. so it's a colonial situation. it's a potus ethical situation. and so why, why should we be supporting a, the people of england and the union,
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which doesn't say of the people of scotland makes no sense. because talk after packing the van neil has a look online as always, have you go? the debate is coming to a had their to neil has his eye on one particular website. scotland matters, an influential body run by pro unionists who oppose scottish independence. for contradiction, scotland matters because for these people, schools and doesn't matter the link to make the weapons against the tenants, that it's all about. it's all nicholas engines plan. that's all her heart quest to get it done. but the forget that we've elected her and that we relate to this in numerous times and given democratic monday. so the trying, you know, circumvent and drive for the defense of the people that i have in it. but obviously not all people. the scotland matters website is alan sutherlands work . he's noticed how support for independence has been increasing and recent polls
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started. so a month is almost 4 years ago. vote for the pre k parties is going to and so we're right here was to try and get beyond the bubble of people as a core would be 3 or 400000 that really was going on and in some way involved. so the whole thing was this for informing people of the to say the arguments. allen designs campaigns for social media, cartoons, and means to caricature the broken promises of 1st minister nicholas sturgeon, such as failing to deliver on climate targets. got cartoon, if the draw of some social media sites like euclidean voice, nightly, his independence moved to scores in the below of good social media. facebook occurs . so we use, we send the images to all these facebook pages and the,
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the issue. before the last, the scottish parliament election, allan launched a poster campaign showing the titanic failures of the 1st minister. slogans were plastered all over constituencies where the s and p 's majority looked precarious. education policy failures were also lampooned. after all, the condition of schools is also a matter for the regional government, not london. we're unemployed in a few of the seats. it was a title voting compared to vo against s and p u because they're gonna, they will come by the civil war. this is a monday for another referendum and which is what it did. so what we did was post that material since the screwed up squash education, then it chest, the oldest of all person. not using them will do a volvo vote for anybody or indeed the long governing s. n. p was unable to
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regain its absolute majority and can now only govern in co operation with the green party. allan is thinking of new ways of keeping scotland in the united kingdom. the next day sandra sets off on a 2 hour drive to the capital with noah and joseph. they want to join the pro independence march hm. to end. but to des moines. excited. sandra tells us that the bus connection is not very good, so they're driving. she's put around 50 euro's worth of fuel in the tank. a small fortune for her. i budgeted money for pick jail for today because we've known about this march for quite a while. and i am,
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it's our 1st one since 2019. so we're m, we're really looking forward to getting back that what we will you be chanting? what do we one plan to be one, did a ah, back in stonehaven allen and the gina are also on their way. but to a different event, the geena arish tells us that they no longer have contact with some of their friends and neighbors. just like bricks it. the question of independence is
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incredibly divisive. as is taught safely, in my opinion, it's become really important where you stand, woman, steve's self mine aside and daughter. there was a time in germany when it was important to know whether people were catholic, a protestant for by those times or over. now thank goodness shotzel, that's that much. but in scotland now a days when you meet a new person move and i know it's hard or even if you know them well, people want to know on which side are you on this stuff so that again they are meeting fellow campaigners from scotland matters. all of them are against to leaving the u. k. on johnston terrace, edinburgh. the march is about to start. neil is handing out the banners for people
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to hold up during his all under one banner march. with the way it was giddy. this isn't what was forecast. so yeah. a the, the forces with women are warranted to read before a judge to see him. but we were teaching her by england. she went but yeah, yes. i
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the procession starts at 1 o'clock and heads down the royal mile and central edinburgh to the scottish parliament building at hollywood. ah, neil documents at all for the social media account of his all under one banner movement. this is good reaches all across the globe and it shows his goldens awakening. and we're going to win. neil estimates that there are about 7000 marchers undeterred by rail strikes and traffic jams. they've traveled from all parts of scotland. ah, these gentlemen are attending
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a family celebration at the clathy hotel behind them. they won't be joining the march. ah, i'm not the support of independence. i believe we're both of you that you like to take the while you back because of the support but opposite us, like rachel, with other 3 out of your up magic of the bottle and on that's been successful with a highly successful addition. and these i keep getting them in the west, the water ah. instead of talking to each other, people stick to their own camps. in stonehaven allen sutherland and hygienists meet their allies and the venerable unionist club and 50. they joined barney crockett, labor politician and former mayor of aberdeen and mark openshaw. allen's partner at scotland matters,
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and they all know that support for independence has been growing over the years. current polls indicate that a slim majority would now vote yes to scottish independence. and the stay present, the people in scotland are unchangeable. no fair for san an immovably. yes. and it's if people in them is that we need to be get not would he be try convincingly outside of the meeting, the people that are already. yeah, it's chemically opposed by separation. yes. so the group need to find convincing arguments to disprove those of the pro independence movement, such as the claim that only british firms and not the scottish population profit from scottish energy resources. it's not as simple as just boating. yes, it wasn't just scotlands oil, scotland was part of the u. k. it's the entire u. case oil. if, if there was a separation from the u. k, in my view of their wood and there was still a lot of revenue to be had from oil. when, when energy there would have to be
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a huge negotiation. and if you think how much trouble it was to sort out breaks it . oh, yeah, that, that sort of a negotiation would be massive. so they hoped to convince undecided voters with their arguments and presentations. newsletters and on social media. i think where i come in is trying to point the gulf between the harsh realities of my speaking a vote. our population is age and quicker than the rest of the u. k. and this puts an enormous, again, additional stream on public funding. so it is almost inconceivable to come up with a feasible plan or a feasible plan doesn't entail enormous sacrifice in the early decades of independence in scotland. it's never the case. they know they can't sell it. if they say it's going to be hard. so they have to say, well, not want beyond, that will be very easy. this will have to just be based on emotion and ignore the
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figures. although be fine. there are also questions regarding a hard border with england and the currency. who has got it right? ah, after getting stuck in traffic, sandra and her children just make it as the march draws to a close. it's an expensive family outing, but she says it's all been worth while. ah, it says that we are no said hopefully other people with bad teeth. no day and fingers crossed the toolbar next to you. we got a red flag. ah
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. while the tail end of the demo is still marching, musicians, neil and henry set up in the tent next to the stage. they're glad of the chance to perform their songs. traditional piece is about scottish freedom fighters as relevant as ever for them. finally, they're getting to play to a larger audience. going what? we are off his way, a big one. you can create a big one today. so are we bit nervous, but nobody watches fight mover just what it takes to one of the vin. oh oh. just the day is a success for nationalists. but shortly afterwards, the supreme court rules that the scottish government cannot hold a referendum without the consent of the british parliament. the s n p has declared that the next u. k. general election will be a de facto referendum for scottish voters, but it will not be held until 2024. when you tell me, i said to me with
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