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the heart and those affected hold the government in london responsible. we take a look at the scottish question inclusive, d w. we've got some hot tips for your bucket list. romantic corner chat. hot spot for food. check, and some great cultural memorials to boot. d, w, travel off we go with the union flag still flies over scotland, but for how much longer struggling with the economic impact of rex it compounded by the energy crisis. more and more scots are going through a difficult time. for many,
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there was only one way out about coke again or what independence, because with his era, i'm a be investigated by the westminster government philosophy on video of many scotts hope for a 2nd referendum on scottish independence. in october 2023. the 1st referendum was held in 2014 and 55 percent of scotts voted to stay in the u. k. part group can have it felt like somebody had died. so the, i can't thinking about that now gets me upset with the national situation is coming to a head in the background. opposition to independence is also quietly gathering, support the pop, the population, and scotland would not be willing to undergo a period of austerity in order to gain independence. ah,
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we are in for fun. a small town about 100 kilometers north of edinburgh. it's far removed from the politics of westminster. sandra macpherson is out shopping. she's heading for a social supermarket set up 3 years ago. the concept is to sell expired or rejected goods to the socially disadvantaged at lower prices. sandra's marriage collapsed during the coven 19 pandemic. now she's a single parent and retraining as a beautician. she needs to save money wherever she can at just because everything else is going on. all the bells of the, at the, even in that your normal supermarket, there's, have, make an ice in peace and don't use so this place is definitely and it's ideal for people like me know as the months have gone on,
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i've been using it more regularly now and definitely noticed a big savings in my shopping bells. right. do you get hard hard people in need are eligible for a membership card and can do their shopping. here we've seen an increase quite considerable increase and that by if people signing up and becoming a member, we've got a law of in work pull 40 am now, which is a situation that you would never have thought a you would, you would even help at technology called and work over a, you know, it shouldn't be such a thing in the last, each kid was at cache cocked. i thought, here what you were to 90, please? ah, the 1st crisis was bricks. it which 62 percent of voters in scotland opposed. then
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came the pandemic and the war in ukraine. the resulting rise and energy prices has hit scott's harder than other western europeans. costs here are twice as high as in the euro's own shops and for, for our closing down one by one. with the national health service also in crisis, winter threatened to be precarious for many people ah 18 be pretty speedy. so yeah, i like every time i buy all the katherine, i'm just thinking how much, how much, how many paintings is that when a v o. joseph and noah, sandra's 2 sons have to make sacrifices to their games console eats up electricity . but sandra doesn't want to economize on that just yet. for now,
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the electric light in the room stays off. they can manage with daylight. the seam of the shell or the shower is actually more skating. oh, i find myself nice and you know, that said you had 5 minutes, you're clean, you can get the shower. i, we can't afford for the whole water is running. whether in rural, for fha or big cities like glasgow, many scots are going through tough times. the gap between rich and poor is widening in the crisis as can be seen all over the inner city a
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neil mac. i is also feeling the crunch and blames politicians and westminster, in his opinion. the devolved scottish government is not completely sovereign and is kept dependent on the u. k. government and many financial matters. o. b, i me, niel is rehearsing some songs with his friend, henry riley. westminster system is, is an affordable. it can be changed from within. so it needs to be smashed up. scotland, a great country is a great society, but people need to be empowered. so that basically what we've done as a, say, a sale, say this mission statement, of course them regular marches, mash, mobilizations for independence every year until independence is one. so that's the, that's the task they're about to perform and glasgow city center deal. they're scraping a living as busters the way the la hulu. these i neil
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mikka is divorced with 2 children and has to pay maintenance. he's looking for a job, any kind of job until he finds one he hopes to make ends meet, singing traditional folk songs about scottish heroes. he also runs a pro independence organisation all under one banner. the next big demonstration he has organized is the day after to morrow. he checks the news online and sees one conservative newspaper headline, edinburgh to be plagued by extreme nationalist march demanding an end to london rule. that is pretty sure, i mean i'm the founder of the organization. i do have my name to those positions with my name on the paperwork a and the authorities always try and you know, if you had an expediency trying and to pray, sean uses all of you like everything goes wrong. anything is your fault
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ah ah, yeah. a scottish 1st minister nicholas sturgeon and her scottish national party, the s and p have announced a 2nd referendum on scottish independence on october 19th, 2023. at the time of filming a judgment from the u. k. supreme court was pending on whether a 2nd referendum could be held without the british governments consent. i should we ask the english supreme court, basically, the court of the british state, which is not going to come down in our favor. why we ask a name and given them not, however why we given them the makes no sense. we have given a number that they have effective mandates to the a 70 government. 8th and in scotland the people are sovereign. we have already said
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we want to read for the end them. we've given the legal mandate for that. so nobody should stand in the way of that. but westminster should de blocker as such, but neither should the worse gum allow them to look. is just ridiculous, ah ah, what is caused the crisis? is it the ongoing financial dependence on westminster in so many matters? or has the scottish government been mis spending funds? ah, we travel to stonehaven a little farther north ob scotlands east coast. ah,
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alan sutherland, who retired over a year ago as opposed to the scottish governments plans for a new referendum. as a former i t manager, he advised companies and sold software worldwide. he's earned himself a comfortable nest egg for his retirement, which he can now enjoy with his german wife at, hey, geena, at ish, they don't have to worry much about the cost of living. i mean, argue against independence is the independence that has been proposed on to build up to under activities of this and p to get here or no was school needs independence is, is got to work. oh, got to be successful. getting in the home proved they can do that. besides gardening, alan has taken up a new hobby describing himself as a scott and a brit. he's actively organizing protests against plans for scottish independence. there's time for a quick coffee before he returns to his computer. his wife supports him and his
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activities. my job doesn't depend on me, keep them. oh shop. i've got a voice or a film phone number of years. i know how to get to in front of people and to persuade people. now a pensioner, alan has considerable influence on current debate from his dad. he may be under the radar, but he is very effective. we head back to for fun home of many supporters of scottish independence. sandra is one of them. they feel they've been hung out to dry by the government and westminster and impression exacerbated by the current crisis. we started marching, i think probably $21718.00. so yes, since since then sandra follows the all under one banner movement on facebook and
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reads about the margin edinburgh we follow them and look for north occasions of where the next march is going to be held. but 1st, it's time to look at the gas meter. once a month, sandra reads the meter and enters the result in an app. she hopes that economizing on heating will reduce her monthly bills and people are hoping to make the choice with the can eat or heat their homes. basically, they're hoping to make a choice. and in my case, they obviously have going children. so i have to make sure that they eat still. my priority is to make sure that they are fed and then for the heat will just just
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pick on more layers to stay warm in the house. you want, they have to be away. but they seem to you, they're young, don't. you shouldn't have to be worrying about things like that. bells, energy prices and things. so i'm credit, i'm calling less money one day before the pro independence march. neil is packing the van in glasgow with his fellow protesters. bruno and lynn are also members of all under one banner in boxes that need to do. i'll take another one, they need a p, a system sound equipment and
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a mobile stage. all of it has to be set up in edinburgh. tomorrow morning. before the pandemic, neal managed to mobilize up to 200000 people for one demonstration. but the cove at 19 restrictions on large events were a huge obstacle for his marches. it's difficult to get this them, but maybe 5 to 10000 people. if we get that, if that happens to model will be i deal a barrier, good turner because the weather is not gonna be good, but it, scotland, and that evolution isn't just gonna be one in the sunshine. so yeah, let's with neil and his team say scotland has always been poorer than the south of the u. k. they blame the government and westminster for a lack of financial support.
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the tory party of keeping the money for the rich people. the rich get rich and the poor get poorer and thus have you seen make poverty has to be your 2nd be in skin it up. so a 2nd tie up the beam scan up here, scotland as rich and are it for you? we are, we help you all the more than you and your bush wins. water. at course we have the oil. they tell us that the assets off the scottish coast have been exploited by british companies for decades with practically nothing left over for the scots. in the u. k. the methods that scotland subsidized by england. but if you look at the statistics, it's a scotland that subsidizing with this the other way around. so is a colonial situation is a part us ethical situation. and so why, why should we be supporting a the people of england and the union,
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which doesn't say everything to scotland makes no sense. okay, so after packing the van neil has a look online as always have vehicle. the debate is coming to a had their to neil has his eye on one particular website. scotland matters, an influential body run by pro unionists who opposed scottish independent contradictions. scotland matters because for these people scold and doesn't matter the link to make the weapons against the tenants, that it's all about. it's all nicholas engines plan. that's all her heart quest to get it done. but they forget that we've elected her. and we believe this in p numerous times and given democratic monday. so the trying, you know, circumvent and the writing for independence is the people that i have in it. but obviously not all people. the scotland matters website is alan sutherlands work . he's noticed how support for independence has been increasing and recent polls.
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sorry, so the month is almost 4 years ago. vote for the the pre k parties has gone down. so radio was to try and get beyond the bubble of people as a core would be 3 or 400000 that really was going on or in some way involved. so the whole thing was to start informing people of the say, the arguments allen designs campaigns for social media, cartoons, and means to caricature the broken promises of 1st minister nicholas sturgeon, such as failing to deliver on climate targets. got a cartoonist, the draw of some social media sites like you keen and voice nightly. his independence moved his course and the below of good social media. facebook occurs. so we use, we send the images to all these facebook pages and the,
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the, the sheila, before the last the scottish parliament election, allan launched a poster campaign showing the titanic failures of the 1st minister. slogans were plastered all over constituencies where the accent piece majority looked precarious . education policy failures were also lampooned. after all, the condition of schools is also a matter for the regional government, not london. we're unemployed in a few of the seats. it was a title voting compared to war against s and p u because they're gonna, they will come by the civil war. this is a monday for another referendum, which is what it did. so what we did was to say material sin the screwed up squash education, then it chest. the oldest of all person, not using them will do a woeful vote for anybody. or indeed the long governing s. n. p was unable to regain its absolute majority and can now only govern in co operation with the green
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party. allan is thinking of new ways of keeping scotland and the united kingdom. the next day, sandra sets off on a 2 hour drive to the capital with noah. and joseph, they want to join the pro independence march. hm. to end. but at to day, marie's excited sandra tells us that the bus connection is not very good. so they're driving. she's put around 50 euro's worth of fuel in the tank. a small fortune for her. i budgeted money for pick jail for to day because we've known about this march for quite a while. and i am,
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it's our 1st one since 2019. so we're m, we're really looking forward to getting back that what we've been chanting. what did we one plan to we one day a ah, back in stonehaven allen and of a gina are also on their way but to a different event. they geena arish tells us that they no longer have contact with some of their friends and neighbors just like bricks it. the question of
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independence is incredibly divisive. as is tots, in my opinion, it's become really important where you stand woman steve's sat mine aside and thought there was a time in germany when it was important to know whether people were catholic, a protestant for by those times they're over now. thank goodness shortland. so that's their mother, but in scotland now a days when you meet a new person, move on, i know it's hard or even if you know them well, people want to know on which side are you on this stuff so that again they are meeting fellow campaigners from scotland matters, all of them are against to leaving the u. k. on johnston terrace, edinburgh, the march is about to start. neil is handing out the banners for people to hold up
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during his all under one banner march. with the way, let's get a. this isn't what was forecast. so yeah. a the foot, the force is with we never wanted to read before a judge to stand. but we were taken by england. we went, but yeah, yes, i
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the procession starts at 1 o'clock and heads down the royal mile and central edinburgh to the scottish parliament building at hollywood. ah, neil documents at all for the social media account of his all under one banner movement. this is good reaches all across the globe and it shows it's goldens awakening. and we're going to when neil estimates that there are about $7000.00 marchers undeterred by rail strikes and traffic jams, they've traveled from all parts of scotland. ah, these gentlemen are attending a family celebration at the clathy hotel behind them. they won't be joining the
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march. ah, i'm not the support of independence. i believe we're better you like to pick them while you back. because of the support with opposite us, like rachel, with other 3 out of your up magic of the bottle on that's been successful with a highly successful vision and they'd like to turn them in the west. the water. ah. instead of talking to each other, people stick to their own camps. in stonehaven allen sutherland and hygienists meet their allies and the venerable unionist club and 50. they joined barney, crocket, labor, politician, and former mayor of aberdeen and mark openshaw. allen's partner at scotland matters and they all know that support for independence has been growing over the years.
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current polls indicate that a slim majority would now vote yet to scottish independence. was 30 percent of the people in school under unchangeable nur fair person and immovably yes. and it's the people in them as the we need to be getting. i would need to try to convince you outside of the people that are already. yeah, it's chemically opposed. i separation, yes is so the group need to find convincing arguments to disprove those of the pro independence movement, such as the claim that only british firms and not the scottish population profit from scottish energy resources. notice just it wasn't just scotland. oil. scotland was part of the u. k. it's the entire u. case oil. if, if there was separation from the u. k. my view that would, and there was still a lot of revenue to be had from oil. when, when the energy there would have to be a huge negotiation, and if you think how much trouble it was to sort of breaks it,
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you know, that, that sort of negotiation would be massive. they hope to convince undecided voters with their arguments and presentations. newsletters and on social media. i think where i come in is trying to point the gulf between the, the harsh realities of mark speaking a vote. our population is age and quicker than the rest of the u. k. and this puts an enormous, again, additional stream on public funding. so it is almost inconceivable to come up with a feasible plan or a feasible pipeline that doesn't entail enormous sacrifice in the early decades of independence in scotland. that's never the case. they know they can't sell it. if they say it's going to be hard, so they have to say, well, not want beyond that will be very easy. this will have to just be based on a motion and ignore the figures. although be fine.
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with the there are also questions regarding a hard border with england and the currency who has got it right ah, after getting stuck in traffic, sandra and her children just make it as the march draws to a close. it's an expensive family outing, but she says it's all been worth while. ah, it isn't me says that we are ned and hopefully other people that take no day and fingers crossed the school by next year. we got a red flag. ah . while the tail end of the demo is still marching, musicians,
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neil and henry set up in the tent next to the stage. they're glad of the chance to perform their songs. traditional piece is about scottish freedom fighters as relevant as ever for them. finally, they're getting to play to a larger audience. oh boy. yeah. oh, he's way a big one. you can play a big one today. so are we but nervous, but not very much. i just okay. what it takes to one of the vin. oh oh, that's great. so the day is a success for nationalists. but shortly afterwards, the supreme court rules that the scottish government cannot hold a referendum without the consent of the british parliament. the s n p has declared that the next u. k. general election will be a de facto referendum for scottish voters, but it will not be held until 2024. can you tell me? i said to meet with jean.
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