and living conditions in their country and inspiring with their ideas on the belly, africa, door to february 13 on the w. ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin, germany approved the deployment of its battle tank. c ukraine. after a lengthy decision making process. chancellor sholtes tells his cabinet of his decision to send the leopard to tags and improve others, doing the same after intense consultation with allies and partners. it comes as the

u. s. appears ready to also supply tags, tick t ah, i'm sorry, kelly. welcome to the program. german chancellor, olaf schultz, has informed his cabinet that he is green lighting, delivery of german made leopard tags to ukraine. it follows a lengthy consultation process. schoultz is expected to outline his decision in the german bundis talk shortly. what you're looking at here is live pictures from inside the parliament that the confirmation comes after intense discussion and coordination with german allies. the leopard to tag is seen as a game changer on the battlefield. but what is it about the tank that makes it the weapon of choice for ukraine? let's it's the flagship of the german army, the leper to

a heavily armed battle tank with superior firepower. weighing close to 60 tons. it can hit targets at a distance of up to 5 kilometers and protect itself and other vehicles from all kinds of threats. while still being agile and easy to maneuver. that's why it's widely regarded as the best of its kind. developed for the bond is there more than 40 years ago and built in germany. the leper too is now also used by many other countries, especially in europe, but also in canada. sheila cutter, indonesia and elsewhere, more than 3500 units i used world wide by some 19 nations. over time, the tank was upgraded and adjusted for use in specific environments. so several different versions have emerged and not all of them are still up to date. refurbishing them to make them fit for combat in ukraine takes time. so even with a political decision made, it could take months until the leper to can make

a difference on the front line. that's broken. political correspond at thomas barrow as we await chance are all off shelters statement in the parliament on the decision to supply tanks to ukraine. thomas, it's a big decision, isn't it? it's absolutely a big decision now. we're actually waiting to hear the details from our left shoulder. what we know so far is that germany is going to supply around 14 of those tanks initially. and the key word here is initially adamos. i'm sorry, i'm gonna have to interrupt tail the ram chancellor speaking. let's have a listen. they got her dom under an up gardener. ladies and gentlemen, the members of parliament, you're, you're the foreign bond and i happy to be able to take her questions to day hon. and i would like to seize the opportunity to say something chris died homebound opportunities before i arrived at hard to for your haney and president mr. se lensky to tell. i talked to him about the current situation and also about war.

germany is doing and war germany well do. long ladies and gentlemen. i'm a hammock hearing of the concerns of the last year and remembering all that we will surely be able to say that most of us thought it would not work wrong. we thought that if germany words is not receiving any gas from brush anymore, and if oil and gas had to be retrieved from other sources, we did not think that this would work without a mass of economic crisis without supply bottlenecks this last winter. and with that, all the challenges related to that. some spoke about a time that we would pass an anger and autumn a winter time in anger and fury that we would have to deal with in this country. but the truth is, none of this happened. tom was sitting here, it's warm and cozy on me. well, that's the case. i give you a crust germany. we were able to secure energy supply in germany through a new york hack hedge in war with which we erected new infrastructures on germany

and also the economic performance of a country we were able to maintain and the high price increases for energy. for example, we were able to balance who is in 1000000000 euros. grilles tight is a one. so we can really say now that the federal government has given us on the final good side no to this one. and the final end and initiation and announcement hylas carries is and is also shown what we were able to do to subside. because in a very short time, we were able to take all the necessary measures we and extended the use time of of the coal fired power plants. and are we more abused by high

bars and ports to import. more garza, we used all the infrastructure. we had the 1st vin 3 supports have already seen gas vessels arriving. this is a very good sign for germany. gunner disaster design distance temple. and i would like to say at this point that the speed that we've been able to gather must be a momentum miking. what we do in the whole country. we need to keep up the speed right now that we needed to fight the crisis with us. but we were able to see how quickly we were able to do all this. we were able to examine the pond on renewable energy. we were able to and assess the transformation of the industry and takes pan p, v and germany so that we can really do what we are planning to do to have the 1st touch . good group 0 carbon economy in the world, like pioneering as a 4th largest economy in the world,

showing other is the way forward and encouraging others to embark on this pathway to while i'm numbered into them. so that was, but we never forgot about cohesion. we never forgot about the respect one of these or via citizens with every thing we've been able to offer minded on modern ladies and gentlemen who are the her for the house, for the very cars, for the challenges we had to master without her own mob economy. was the terrible imperialist war of aggression in been on ukraine of so after terrible war in which the principles that we used to rely on for decades in ira that we all agreed the garage added to vice bill. you questioned the principle that had contained the following statement. never do it from a may, but borders be shifted to our 3 a violence. some of that is what russia has now stopped at hearing too. and that is

the change of an era that we talked about here at the one this time on this one is listed, and that is why it is correct to proceed in close agreement with our international partners as we support ukraine money in financial terms or both humanitarian means, but also without weapons delivery would be obscene to long as we do this voicemail and gotten what middle changing long and wide nipper said views on goals, but it used to be our practice in our route from current estates for food and germany. we had to break a rule, and now we are supply mas wetlands to go though great britain, for example, if we sum up or what we've decided to deliver so far than we can say is germany will always be pioneering supporting the ukraine. we are the country that has been doing just that with a lot of energy and to great extent that so there shouldn't us. we are also, if we decided to also deliver heavy weapon like her howard, sir, and flagpole,

other artillery equipment we'd on has provided a number of times a modern and ground to air system like e s t, just pets. and we both keep on to live more systems like the patriot system, which i decided together with government. so these are all measures hiv income. i'm helping ukraine defend itself and all these decisions are grow made from enclosed cooperation. and i got agreement with our allies, and that is the very reason why they're effective and wiser. we're able to make these decisions. that's the principle this government here is t one does mad. why does one do you? we will try to keep on. we did was doing this pants just as recently showered together our own with the u. s. and we decided to deliver our martyr. infantry combat lee call. and when the u. s. provided their vehicle at the same time,

we proved alternate credentials in our coordination with friends that we are doing nothing alone. it's not far away from berlin. that a miss warren on a big country emma is taking place. and with all we do, we need to make it clear, agree will do anything necessary to supply ukraine, but at the same time, we want to avoid an escalation of this war it so that it doesn't become a warrant between russia and nato. and we will keep on adhering to that principle to w, produce a dinner kiner, but to marketers, so there can be any certainties in that nobody can tell us now, right, exactly the right and wrong decisions are, would follow up. and that's why it's been done for hunger with intention, is to move forward gradually, lighter for, and we will do solve that in the future. so that's the only principle that proves

valid in such a dangerous case. and it's the only principle that can guarantee our security on this new kids offered a youngster. and so i don't do the book that also holds true for the latest decision. the fed government has made sponsored goober all so provides come that tanks till you grain deliver bottle lab heard on the type to the burner knob. this is on the result of the coordination whether international partners and i need to explicitly say it. i was right and it keeps on being right. want to not ocean and happen, push it forward, but to have waited for international cooperation to take place with under dhs you. so this is our goal. you wanna to deliver to and tank battalion together with our allies. philadelphia begun him, but there are

a number of countries who would like to join in on the deliveries. we want to do this in a coordinated approach, entertainment because our tech involved them also said that it becomes foolish to an impossible germany war provide of a rooster only of leopard 2, a 6 battle tangs from the start of van b. r. german armed forces and if we do that, we've been hospital and we will also provide training, logistics, ammunition, and the doctor maintenance of these systems. and we was unable to our partner countries to deliver their titles tuesday. ladies and gentlemen, this is the right principle to follow with some of this fema. we're talking about very efficient weapons system here and it is correct to never go it alone. but to always provide these weapons in close agreement with the partners. let me conclude in this country. there are many people who worry. i'd also depends on the visa v, such a decision and also v as a v, as the diesel dimension and magnitude that sending such

a weapon means. and this is why i would like to tell you at this point, please do trust me. i trust the federal government to look up as a weaker snags d n. international global agreement. we will make sure that this is about support becomes possible with that. our country of running into risks that this is the reason why we're doing it this way and we will keep on doing just that. and you haven't gotten there. the german chancellor, all lost souls telling of his decision to send the leopard 2 tanks, those german tanks to ukraine fee and dang, for the island and water and have wounded conservancy. thank you, my counsellor. let me put it in. i own mister chancellor. it and the next time you

could great me to as the chair person of the session, i'd be most happy to. thank you. yeah. well, mr. beth, i'm the one that we will start with a question time also. i now give the floor and work on you to is c d o c. as you parliamentary group, yoga hard. you have a fly resident and i will come for miss presidency. i'm guessed under the president had roxanne slur jo nouns. you're a decision yesterday via the press. i would be good for life to see this happening in the format of a government declaration and of a government statement here from this billing about which we could have well debated where we stood as well after the decision was a cracker. so garbage and game and also your head is round so that here most thoughts i can change the direction about melvin by but let me say at this point i try to work on our way, get to this decision. a lot of damage has been dying talk a lot of harm has been cars to view of the bicycle some days ago. m unit on, on the bill. gotcha. and port we heard from that some urban baltic countries,

the forgot that sir different. there was not a clear yes to poland to request to please send their tags and indian for the french president. so sir, did you try to add these? so bon university of that i'd be brand new, wasn't just held against that. the decisions in one take it but also against that decision while we're both on the sick decisions one doesn't take. so that's an enormous damage that's been cause who will take the responsibility for a hacker and offer to get thank you very much for this question. and also thanks for giving me the opportunity to give you a more explanations about the topic and try to i do not agree at all patel a fact that we just took the decision today and announce it immediately and immediately our afterwards them now see them on the 1st chance there is just a comment, the decision here before the one this car, and i think this is correct. i bet millions your class. much i will really say to you is we've followed your advice and that be a danger for germany. security really burden abroad for many citizens in

this country with maribelle raids to proceed in government the way you are proposing line feel it would be wrong or feel a most is horrible. mistake also to go it alone and this question, nor to do this a lot. it is necessary to do everything in a course agreement with somebody others. and it is clear that it's not going to be their calendars and her next press. our statement to deliver. that's not going to be the calendar according to which we are lying. once i announcements, but we proceed in close coordination with our friends and allies. this way we have to receive if he wanted guarantees the security in europe. and if we want to help you frame the juvenile function, so follow up question is last night at the end upon which borkin busby or mister chancellor ins. when you said that with our support was lumped our carbone of

ukraine. we do not want to provoke russia to not let the conflict escalate further, an approval. so what else would it be of hide from our provocation then delivering howard to hers once the tribes? once you are a tanks and what's a now different bower tips in january 2023, it is the same provocation. what's different now? these are the decision that we might have taken with partners last. what your mission want? good, dear member of parliament. i did not speak of a provocation if there is a provocation at all, then it is on the part of the russian government because they're attacking ukraine to get hold of their territory about us millions closet. but i will tell you quite clearly where the difference is. you're hidden on book. if someone really believes it right now, now that is with you, right? struck to not proceed last month in a gradual approach, guffman and that it wouldn't be wrong to not find out what's right and to not wait

for disagreement to not do one step after the other. then that would not be good for peace and security in europe. and that's why i am saying we didn't just do it alone, but we did it in a close coordination and agreement with our friends and allies. and we will do it like this all the time. and future as well. i know by that enough, i got it. it is another follow up question from cd with c as you parliamentary group. mr. hun mark bog resident in. thank leon as president, shantee colleagues, mr. chancellor for costa and im, yom almost a year ago, you proclaimed that a change of an era wellness ref here and not to you an answer support armanda's fair with her. her money promised have not been calculated from the boy thought in the current budget, and he also said that germany would be taking the lead and that he would soon become the strongest armed forces in europe land. but how did you want to get this?

were your promise? how are you planning? loosen sure marie cover the material that we're now handling all of our data as soon as you can image to the invoice via thank you very much for those question and under talk. remember, 1st of all, all the pictures good is true immediately after the war in society and our brief lawson harbor does have a store. cuz i, it made this promise daughter the corresponding law. you make a clear statement just on an average to present of germany's economic and why he's arguing power. the tool meant how good is supposed to be spent on defense blending probably wouldn't of and this will be my commitment not just now, but also lead to random from and the 100 to abuse and 1000000000 euros is a special budgets. what's, what gives us durn alton, we're from a guide rail for that swing to without letting others deter associates from making the right decision. little for concrete, we now need the right decisions for the right system,

or some decisions have been taken on the f. 35, a nuclear participation also on the transport helicopter guys and some decisions the guy imminent and still pending off while we were talking about long term contracts with production there. make 10 of your take years and we're also talking about, i mean, mission and spat hot water supply as i saw all the errors that were made and last decades. you need it to be abolished. and also the errors made by the cd. the us, he is a review call. it's not just in abolishing are probably a duty of military service, but also the savings program, which was the biggest in history for our armed forces and hired of all. this is also in correcting all these mistakes. no long term contractor for her dish that were there, that was a mistake. no spare parts supplies will north, ongoing production. and if you know sufficient, what i'm initially supply is double check on me,

produce all the time. so correct in these miss at hays i together with the defense ministry and with the federal on forces. that's what we will do. the federal sandstone. i in. so i didn't and yet have been watching the german chancellor hold off schultz informing the german parliament of the green lighting of delivery of german made leopard 2 tanks to ukraine following a lengthy consultation process. we heard the german chancellor emphasized that this decision was made in cooperation with partners in order to support ukraine. he mentioned the delivery of systems that it was the decision in very much in co co operation of the leper to delivery systems. and he said that it was the right decision intruding mention, and it will, cotton decrease from that in was, is increased population. and let's get more coverage now on this breaking news. we are here in the studio with political correspondent, thomas barrow. he is with me, and we also have joining us from the german bundis talk. nina hossa,

our chief political correspondent. i'd like to ask nina what the main takeaways are from the speech of 1st of all, the but biggest important point was of course the fact that all efforts is now on record as saying that germany will deliver leopard tanks to ukraine of the 2, a 6 type now m, this ends of course, all the criticism that we have seen germany under, for the last days and weeks and will have charged in their speech actually explained a lot of the things that are made it so difficult for germany. turn them essentially make a swift decision. he said he would had to weigh it up very carefully. he reiterated oaths, also the points why we are in this situation in the 1st place is he blamed russia for this brutal, terrible imperialist war that makes these decisions necessary. and ukraine, he said, has asked for these weapons systems because they're simply the most very efficient

systems that are available around the world. will have shows then stressed again that such a decision had to be made with international partners. and that he has now managed to form a coalition that germany will send leopards from the armed forces from the bundeswehr, but other countries will also join germany will provide training, logistics, maintenance, and ammunition. and most importantly, sarah, i think, is the point that all our shorts has now explained, hit himself that he essentially caught up with days and weeks of a lack of communication. this has been framed, nina and thomas has such a huge decision. we have to say on, on the part of germany, but we also have to emphasize that it's already been decided to sent the martyr in for trivial call. howard sir, is patriot missile systems. i mean, you know, this is what our shorts highlighted in his speech. thomas, so tell us how big a decision is this for it and the leper to tag it is another step in germany's progressive change of direction. germany for a very long time,

was actually very hesitant when it came to sending military equipment to was own something that obviously changed after the big of the war in ukraine. but change in germany does not happen overnight and especially such a big change here in germany. so it began rather slowly, it began in a progressive way and this is the latest step in that change of direction that is being led by germany. chancellor olive shows so it is a very big decision here in germany. i think something else that important stress is that okay, the maybe germany's allies were listening very carefully at what mr. charles was saying just now, but it was also very much directed at a local audience. he was very much directed at germans, who have been concerned about these deliveries, were worried that germany could be involved in larger conflict. we're worried about all this may be spiraling out of control as germany and other allies continued to send weapons to ukraine. and i found that particularly important about this speech just now. it was not only directed at explaining why germany is making this

decision now and why germany is making this decision with its closest allies, but also what germany wants to prevent what it wants to achieve. i want to help you crane, but also what he wants to prevent to become part of a wider conflict of a war in which nature plays a larger role. ok nina, i just briefly tell us what happens next. now. when did these tanks go? how quickly? well, that is, of course, a very big question. it is part of this coalition. germany will send at least a company of leopard to so that means in other words, 14, but they're hoping to have 2 battalions ready for ukraine as quickly as possible. now they did also didn't discuss all these issues behind closed doors because they wanted to co ordinate their efforts so that they don't have to deal with completely different tank systems on the ground. but we'll just have to wait and see about the details. they will emerge in the next couple of hours, days and weeks. ok, thomas,

what, what other takeaways do you see from this decision? well, it will be important obviously to discuss, as you pointed out, what the next step in the process is. it is likely that we will hear the on cancer coordinate even closer, for example, with the u. s. president, but also with the french president with other european leaders. in fact, we're hearing that there will be a phone call maybe today to discuss those next steps. and the next element, we will also be when is germany going to actually send those times. what we're hearing now is that germany will start training ukrainian soldiers very soon that that training could actually take between 6 to 8 weeks. so basically we're talking here about germany planning to send it's tanks until the last week of march that could take much longer from the u. s. so the u. s. it's also planning to send its own abrams tanks. and obviously because of geographical distance, because of logistical issues that could take much longer. so it's not only about the political decision that has been announced, it's also about how the political decision will ultimately be implemented. ok, thomas barrow. joining us here in the studio chief political correspondent in hasa,

joining us from the one does talk. thank you so much to both of you for your analysis. just to quickly recap. for our viewers, germans has the all of sholtes green lighting, the delivery of german made leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. you're watching t w news. thank you so much for joining us for this special coverage. i'm sarah kelly in berlin. take care. ah. ah ah ah ah ah

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