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[000:00:00;00] ah, antony lincoln's visit to israel was never going to be a walk in the park. he had planned to test the waters, lay the groundwork for washington's co operation with the most right wing government israeli history. talk around saudi arabia and ukraine, but a wave of violence that has the entire region on edge has put de escalation on the top of his agenda. in the face of rising tensions between israelis and palestinians, blink and call for urgent steps on both sides to restore kong. and he made clear that for him and the rest of the biden administration, the key to regional security and stability lies in the 2 state solution on the call fairly, him berlin. and this is the day,
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ah, is the responsibility of everyone, take steps to content rather than employment, to work toward a day when people don't want to feel afraid in their community to their homes and their places of worship. that is the only way to hold the rising tide of violence. that is taking too many lives too many israelis to many battle city. and i'll make that clear through my time and israel and was with every one that i me ah, also on the day a 100 days, an office for italian prime minister george, i'm a lonely and that means a 100 hostile days for those seeking to save migrants lives in the waters of the mediterranean sea eltic, you know, what we keep hearing is i would rather die at sieve and go back to libya. is the so rules like this will never stop. people from making that crossing. people on the
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run will not stop trying to find safety. a had to have you with us. we began the day with a plea for a return to a past plan for peace. a 2 state solution that vision of a palestinian state existing alongside israel was last on the negotiating table on us sponsored talks in 2014. now secretary of state antony blank and is visiting israel and the palestinian territories at a time when the region is suffering. some of the bloodiest violence in years after blinking met israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the 2 men emphasized the central concern of security. but i have to tell you that i also believe that expanding the circle of peas working to close formally the fall of the arab israeli conflict. i think would also help us achieve a workable solution with our palestinian neighbors as we advance israel's integration. we can do so in ways that improve the daily lives of palestinians in the west bank and gaza. and that's crucial,
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moving toward our enduring goal of palestinians and israelis enjoying equal measures of freedom, security, opportunity, justice and dignity. we're now with nathan sacks, he's the director at the center for middle east policy at the brookings institution . mister sax, good to see you at blink and central mass says there has been one of condemnation and de escalation. what can be us do to keep this situation? this very dangerous situation from spiraling out of control of us late leavers are limited. but of course, as one of the key players in trying to save off would really as a very dangerous situation. the united states is trying to press upon the israeli government terrain in all elements that would trigger fire. and what already is a very heavily fuel the arena. and on the palestinian side we see a very worrying decay in the past. you know, stories ability to control the situation, especially in the northern westbank for the united states on the one hand is
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pressing the leaders to try to urge com to try to rein in some of the more radical elements. for example of nathan y'all's coalition, and on the other hand, find itself also the possibility of a cat and mouse kind of game following every activity on the ground, trying to coordinate among the troops there. some of the seats does not have to do in a long time before this latest spate of violence, blink and said he travelled to the middle east and the capacity of a mediator. is there any ground for mediation at this point? well depends. what do you call me? the ation, the united states has a very important role to play and trying to calm things down and avoid the worst, because the worst could be very bad. but the prospects of actual mediation in terms of a piece negotiation. returning to negotiation between israelis and palestinians on a 2 state solution that at the moment is simply not in the cards. and i don't think anyone in washington including secretary blinking, have any illusions about the possibility we hear the americans talk about the 2 state solution. it's become a bit of a problem by now. people speaking about this as the ultimate goal,
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as it should be. i think the prospect of any meaningful negotiation between this government, israel and this leadership on the palestinians that prospect is very slim. how concerned is the us about israel's new hard land government, especially in the pursuit of a solution to the conflict? well they know certain finals of in a real bind, they're very concerned on the one hand if anyone has really some of the most radical members of a coalition that he's ever had. he is, in fact the most left wing, most moderate member of his coalition to many degrees. and he himself, of course, isn't on quantity. he's not someone that the administration loves, but he is someone they know how to work with. and he's certainly a cautious leader together with him however, are very extreme members, especially the minister in charge of the police and the finance minister and the minister in charge of the police. for example, just a couple of years ago in may. 2021 was one of the problems, tours on the streets that help for men, the violence not him alone, but him as well. now he's in charge of police. so the administration really has
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a very difficult task dealing with this new and with this new israeli government. it also faces and israeli government that is trying to dramatically alter the relations between the judiciary and the executive in the parliament and israel in a way, at a path that would lead israel in a hungarian or polish model, a very troubling prospect for many in israel who are for democracy to continue it ministration, of course is wary of diving into domestic issues like that, but there too, we see real concern all that said america and this station is busy with other things, of course. and this is not the highest priority. yeah. what would the us like to see at this point as far as bilateral piece efforts could go? at the moment, the aims are very modest, and that is to try and calm things down to avoid the worst in the short term. and secondly, to leave open the door for the possibility of a 2 state solution down the road possibility of returning to negotiations. if there are some political changes on both sides and both of those tasks are very difficult
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. avoiding the worst in the short term will require luck and a lot of coordination and effort, not just by the americans, but by others as well, and trying to stave off a closing of the door for 2 state solution will be hard as well. the finance minister, whom i mentioned before, but that a small village is held and on trying to avoid that and promote de facto annexation of the west bank. that is something that in the station is also paying a lot of attention to. but it's, again, the card that has at hand are limited. lincoln has been an outspoken critic of israel settlement policy. how much leverage does he have with yahoo when it comes to his government plans that he announced in response to the recent attack. so actually expand the settlement while the us as a lot of leverage with is all of course the very close ally of, of his role. it says all most important support are by far in the world and the israelis know that very well. so to the degree that the government, the administration in washington is willing to extend political and diplomatic effort on this, they can move quite
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a bit in israel. their pressure would mostly be on prime minister nathan. yo. and he would like to avoid any major crisis. but of course, he's not the only one there. he already has coalition partners who are not interested in stopping settlement activity, quite the reverse. and so there, there's a real domestic struggle that the united states find itself and not for the 1st time i should say it's a very recurrent theme is in us israeli relations. the bottom, the station is very concerned about settlement activity precisely for the possibility of closing the possibility of 2 state solution in the future. but, and they will be pressing them out for it. the problem is not so much on the ground announcements from it than you know, it's more on the rural craddick moves the low, the political level that advanced the fact that next station and may proceed even short of any grand new announcement from nathan himself. this meeting was of course, overshadowed by the recent violence, but there were other important regional issues on the agenda tune. iran saudi
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arabia, what is at this point b, u. s. top priority in the middle east. well, it's interesting that i'd say that for decades of having the middle east, so central really is concerned with other areas. first of course the china and obviously russia and ukraine, closer to the home where you are. but in the middle east, there are still very high concerns and top among them is iran. iran nuclear program is proceeding the return to the j. s p away to mutual compliance and j. k. seems to be farther away than ever. we for the president say off the call that it's probably dead at this stage. maybe we resurrected and so the possibility of iran approaching nuclear capacity is very serious. just last week, we saw a huge joint military operation between the united states and israel, and unprecedented the largest ever in history. and that was meant to send a signal to many parties, but especially at thereon, that at the end of the day, if they truly approach nuclear capability, they might, might find a joint us israeli front. and we also heard news now of the serious bombings in
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iran aimed at especially facilities for missiles that's been attributed to the israelis by others. this is an ongoing campaign. there's been very little quiet in it, in the last few years. what's changed now is a possibility of a joint israeli american position at least hinting that as a last resort, perhaps threat, there's a real threat of force even by the united states. nathan faxes and parking situation. thank you so much for your time today. thank you very much for having me around parliament has proposed a new law that further limits free speech as their regime moves to crack down further on descent. those convicted could face up to 15 years in prison and financial penalties since nationwide. protest began 4 months ago. about 20000 demonstrators have been arrested for have been executed. but many ordinary iranians have decided they'll still speak their minds. we're approaching to ron,
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my visit will be restricted toronto capitol. that's one of the conditions of my stay. the next morning i head off to the foreign ministry. i have to wear a headscarf, another condition of my visit. on the way i noticed just how much graffiti there is slogans against the regime. in many places they've been painted over. there's a press conference at the ministry about the use plan to put the countries revolutionary guard on their terrorist list. officials here convinced it won't come to that. don't you think that there has been a change inside of the european union when it comes to the policy towards iran? julius longer it's time some countries gave up on their failed policies towards us . we will never succumb to such political pressure. no ha, sure. after 4 months of unrest, there are now fewer protest on the streets, but many women are staging their own protest,
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not wearing head scarves on the streets. despite the danger, we talk to a couple, we've made them anonymous for their own safety. are you afraid of your government? yes, we are very afraid because the state is ruthless. oh, don't they don't show mercy to any one. not with children, women or men, corner nervous animals. do hope for other d for freedom. of course, if we don't have hope, if we have nothing to leave for you know, is the reason of hurdling reporting on the fight for freedom has become dangerous. more than 80 iranian journalists have been arrested including photographer, yelder, moriarty. i talked to her, but not in around. that could have put our iranian camera, teen endanger. y'all to husband sentence to 6 years. she's just waiting to be
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summoned to go back to prison. left no. oh, i left my mind in proves and all the proof then are there. they are another young girl, 18 years ago, a few years ago you cannot even imagine how, how the situation is there. and he also wants her voice to be heard for as long as possible. and that's exactly what this la mic republic fears, people willing to fight for their freedom. ah, nato secretary general wants to see all hands on deck when it comes to bolstering ukraine's military capabilities. within and beyond, the lines in stoughton work is now urging south korea to provide military support for a lot of years. zalinski is troops, sultan burg has been meeting officials and so hoping the government will reverse a longstanding ban on supplying weapons to countries engaged in act of conflict. mister salton brooke was also visiting japan as part of a tor,
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to increase nato's ties with the asia pacific region. meanwhile, here in germany, the discussion is taking place on a different level altogether. after the government of berlin gave the green line to supply battle tanks to ukraine. a new debate is now heating up about whether fighter jets should be next. he says that it needs them to boost its air defenses, but chancellor will have shots, has spoken out against the idea on a trip to chile, he accused supporters of the idea of being in a quote, competition to outdo each other. shawls was heavily criticized for hesitating over supplying tanks to ukraine before finally agreeing to do so. last week. so are we in for a repeat of the tank saga now with fighter jets and an exclusive interview with the w, ukraine's ambassador to germany has taken the pressure off olaf shots, at least for the time being that as he spoke to d w. richard walker earlier today, and richard began by asking him why jets are so important to ukraine at this point
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in the war. all jets are important because it is a part of our efforts to, to get russian rockets down. russian launches a lot of missiles doors to the right in cities, tor, towards infrastructure. and the jets are the part of our air defense efforts. all of sholtes. the chancellor here is already positioning himself as very skeptical of sending fighter jets to ukraine. would you say to that while we've been very consistent in talking to different international partners and looking what kind of equipment we can get from that and my priorities as ambassador here from the very beginning where armored vehicles,
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main battle tangs and air defense systems and jewelry units, and we're progressing very good on all 4 priorities and we'll, we'll continue talking to our german partners mainly on those 4 priorities. but of course the situation and the field might request different equipment. ok, so just to be clear what you're saying there. so you representing the ukraine government, a saying that you don't even really need jet fighters from germany. is that what you're saying? we didn't put any request to germany about fighter jets yet. okay. so that request could yet come, ah, it would depends on the situation on a battlefield. and once again, if i gets from our military guys such a request, we will be working with our partners. but once again, behind closed doors, ah,
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and in a trust war, seed marked as ukraine's ambassador to germany, alexi marquis f. air and an exclusive interview. with d, w. a wacken, russia, authorities are continuing their repression of criticism of the invasion of ukraine . some parents have reported that their children are facing fresh or at school where they're taught that the war is only a limited military operation. we spoke with one russian family who doesn't know they'll be able to stay in their home country. lou via julie, her music is the best way to unwind to forget school and trouble with the police. a few months ago, or authorities labeled the 11 year old as problematic. they suspect her family as being anti russian and pro ukrainian ever since that day in october last year. when police questioned valia and her mother bulls thrush, my 1st i was afraid to call the police officer was sitting right across from me
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because she was tall and she stared at me through her glasses. what did it i thought, what does he want from me? i had never seen her before. it don't worry chore, neither by us you through your thoroughly various alleged crime, was that she had refused to attend a new course on patriotism at school in the mandatory class, cold conversations about important things. students are told that the russian invasion of ukraine is just an act of liberation. even worse in the eyes of deals or it is very a cellphone. profile photo was an image of an arms toting virgin mary displayed in the ukrainian national colors. the school principal suspected subversive behavior and alerted the police threats, interrogation, and dramatic rate on their apartment, followed as various mother yelena recalls. she says it was
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a nightmare that lasted weeks. i need pasta. they really caused me and my daughter a lot of pain. the interrogation alone lasted for hours. last offer we were confronted with strange questions about politics. fighting and about my daughter bodya, and about what kind of a bad child she was a wider equal grandma higher. various story is not an isolated one. shortly after the start of the war, russia passed a law forbidding what they called the discrediting of the russian armed forces. for example, any one who called the war a war rather than a special military operation, as the authorities dictated, risked long sentences. hundreds of russians who openly protested against the war and criticized the kremlin, have been taken to court. some have been imprisoned in the jolly cause apartment. the authorities tried to find evidence that would prove that they had broken. the law says very as mother yelena, they found nothing,
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even so the jolly cars remain under police observation. yet anna says her carefree life is over. she no longer feel safe. a shot think was another the 3 years ago. i couldn't have imagined anything like that happening and russia associates a day, i no longer identify with the russian state didn't than us. it's justin to show the state is causing us too much pain in my children and me, but i see it. but i don't think we can expect anything good in russia, and the next 20 or 30 years will help when my children will become adults. and that's why body as family doesn't want to stay in russia much longer. it's just a matter of time before they move abroad. she says, rodya has ambitions to become a great musician. free of any worries about the police law ah, to italy,
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now we're at the most far right government. since the end of the 2nd world war is marking $100.00 days and power. i minister george maloney, the 1st woman to ever hold the pulse campaigned on a national, less than anti l. g b t agenda and promised to reduce immigration migrant rescue organizations say the country's new policies mean that more people will die in the mediterranean sea. many are picked up by privately run. rescue ships off the coast of north africa and maloney's government as forcing vessels to take a long detour to reach safe havens. these are the latest people rescued from the mediterranean sea. but now they're far away from where they were rescued. in fact, there more than 1000 kilometers away at the northern port of last spade. sia, italy's right wing government has ordered the rescue ships to dock along italy's north coast. far away from the migrant roots in the south. the charities involved
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say it's a dangerous ploy out of this, of them having to navigate for 4 days means that for 4 days there are no rescue ships in the mediterranean sea. i want to remind you that in 2022 more than 2000 people died in the central mediterranean olives. it's the deadliest migration race and not having ships means people will die. until recently, the ships would dock in the south of italy on land produce island or sicily. italy's far rides an anti immigration prime minister, georgia maloney wants to stop the ships acting as what she calls ferry boats from migrants. the n g o is running the rescue operations say this policy won't stop people making the dangerous journey. elk, a gate up, what we keep hearing is i would rather die at sea than go back to libya is the so
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rules like this will never stop. people from making that crossing, people on the run will not stop trying to find safety. val ahead zuka italy's among e u. countries hoping to push for new strict regulations on migration. the issue will be discussed at a summit next month. the ha ah, or the 60 people have been killed and a suicide bombing at a mosque and pakistan. the attack left dozens more injured and in critical condition blast occurred in the city of pasha are close to the border with afghanistan. many of the victims were police officers from a law enforcement compound surrounding the mosque. panic on the streets of her shower, an alleged suicide bomber detonated his vest at a mosque during afternoon prayers. killing dozens and hurting more than
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150 people. emergency crews raised to the scene some using their bare hands to free those traps. in the rubble languages, there was chaos. at the sight. i rescued 7 people and put them in ambulances, or just one portion of the mosque had totally collapsed in the blast. i cannot give you the exact figure of casualties. there were many worship as at the time of the explosion regarding the muslim rejecting of the mug away. most of the victims were members of pakistan, security services. the mosque is located inside a police compound and a high security area with other government buildings. it's a major security breach, and it's not yet clear how the bomber was able to slip into the wild compound and blow himself up among the hundreds of worshippers. oh, the mosque is adjacent to the office of the senior superintendent of police. we were preparing ourselves for prayer and we're heading to the mosque. we were on the
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stairs when the blast happened. we rescued some wounded people. dead bodies are still trapped under the debris. the pakistani taliban have claimed responsibility for the blast. militant attacks have been on the rise and pass shower since the taliban entered their ceasefire with government forces as their time. but make sure to stay in touch. you can follow us on twitter at d. w. news from myself and the entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of sorting with
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a strictly scientific trip to some pretty wacky places with curios is required. ah, to morrow today. ah, next on d. w. russia asking support or resignation the war machine has a firm grip on the country. but not everyone supports the president's war. this report takes a look at what ordinary russians actually think close up in 60 minutes, d, w. o.
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