[000:00:00;00] ah, for some it's an expression of face. for others, it's a symbol of systemic oppression. the headscarf may well be the most controversial garment of our time on world who job day activists want to create awareness of the discrimination and prejudice. muslim women face in many places around the world. but while millions feel empowered today by wearing their head scarves proudly in places like iran and afghanistan, empowerment precisely lies in shedding the head job. and for the women living under authoritarian islamic rule, showing defiance by showing hair can come at a tremendous cost. i'm nicole really kimberline and this is the day

for the woman that i decided i was going to wear her job. i think that moment it became a part of my identity, became a part of who i was all to boston who has a job is often seen as somebody who doesn't have their own opinions. somebody who doesn't have their own agency and was governed by what the nice it was something that i discovered and chose, we need to create in terms of societies and who's involved faces. everyone, people from all kinds of shows that accepted also on the day, it has been 2 months since russian president vladimir putin assigned a law banning so called propaganda for what the kremlin calls non traditional sexual relations. so how is that changing the lives of targeted l g b t q russians, inches up. this is primarily anti western rhetoric nikki. the assertion is that the west is imposing certain values on us and that something must be done about that.

ah, welcome to the show. freedom of religion is a human right and the ability to practice one's faith without hindrance is an important pillar of democracy. now for many muslim women exercising their religion, the way they want comes with grades stick mind scrutiny. the 2nd they walk out on the street wearing a headscarf on world to job day activists hope to foster a better understanding of why they choose to wear the garments we want to take a closer look at india, where muslim students have been protesting for the right to wear a job in their classrooms, the protest in the southern state of colonel tucker, last year began after a government ban. india supreme court still needs to decide on the matter. but for many muslim students in the country, it's a matter of personal freedom. rhythm will been, is getting her masters in communication and jamie amelia islam. young university in

delhi. she started reading the he job about 7 years ago and is one of 3 women in her class who do so. she believes that women across the world, irrespective of their religion, should have the right to choose what they want or don't want to wear. good us as people also stared at her, but that she has gotten used to it. it wasn't something that came to me. all through family, it was something that i discovered and chose. so as the woman that i decided i was going to read her job, i think that moment it became a part of my identity and became a part of who i was. last year the southern state of karnataka saw major protest both for and against the he job. after 6 students were bought from attending classes for wearing one. officials shut down schools and universities for days because they feel while ends following the controversy that are not at the high court upheld the ban on his jobs in classes stating that the her job is not essential to islam. later, when the matter reached the supreme court, it delivered

a split verdict. rhythm often talks about the tensions and could not go with her friend nailer, who also, with the hedge up board, said that the controversy had nothing to do with the who job both c. instead, it was about reach yaki and men wanting to control women's choices, as well as with rising islam of phobia in india. and ayla says she does not think women read the job because the men in their lives forced them to. they do so because of their faith and this is their right. but she and donna are both against the forceful imposition of a job. you can obviously, or a lot to the west and media news media in general, which is always portrayed. and he job the woman as a breast of boss. and whether he job is often seen as somebody who doesn't have their own opinions. somebody who doesn't have their own agency and who is governed by what the men in the life says, i did that agrees a job she has while to take legal recourse. if somebody she is told to remove her

her job. i know a friend of mine who was refused a job offer the condition for the job. was she after to move her to a job? and unfortunately, she had to leave it. we need to creating to as a societies inclusion walk places where every one people from all cultures that accepted and all identities and identical marco's, i'd accepted both nila andrew thus struggle with prejudice every day. whether it is from an individual stare or a national debate. but this struggle has only strengthened their beliefs and the feeling of empowerment they see the he job has given them a now for some the choice to where he job is a symbol of religious freedom. but in iran that he job has become a symbol of oppression. more and more women across the country are choosing not to wear ahead scar protests, have swept the country since the death of gina masa meanie after being detained for allegedly wearing her he job improperly. there were also been several executions in

the wake of those demonstrations. and joining me now from galway in ireland is the iranian feminist activist and researcher of maya aust of our, my are good to see that. how do you feel about countries banning the headscarf? hi. oh, though, 1st of all, i mean i'm against banning differ the scarf and so i don't have anything against the men who choose freely to wear hedge off. that's not what i mean. that's none of my business to decide for them. but the other part of the story and the other side of it though, should also be seen as you talk about, for example, iran and you see similar stuffing afghanistan as well. so the truth is that there are women who don't choose to her job. it can be by a law that is imposed on them, it can be by their family or their muslim community that imposes her job on them.

so what i'm saying with arguing here is that we should also see and hear this side of the story as well. and we shouldn't lay, but it basically as a normal phobia. because there are people like me. i've lived in iran for 25 years . they have traumas of experience, of political islam, of men being, being basically forced to wear hedge up and their, their story should be also heard. then we're talking about her job. absolutely. and can you tell us what the headscarf or the job represents to you? well, to me it says symbol of oppression. but because the experience that i have from her job is that i was forced to wear it since the age of 7. since i was going to school basically. and i know that this story of many of the men, and that's the story because, you know, there are minorities in muslim community. the men educate people,

for example, imagine a trans man or woman and that or 9 non binary repairs, and that doesn't fit even this agenda or 2 side gender. so if they choose, i mean if her job is forced on all the people, it's also kind of an operation for them. so we had this campaign little start that basically was asking a muslim be meant to talk about ex, muslim men and women who have experience with as long to talk about basically their experience of islam on her job, which might not fit many agendas. i'm might label it a phobia and they're very minorities inside the muslim community who were against her job and who were against islam. so, so for them they are experienced is much it dramatic towards her job.

and their story is valid and important to be heard. yeah, yeah, definitely. you now live in ireland after living in or you are an island right now . you don't have to wear and the he job and what is not having to wear it mean to you. this miss freedom and to be honest, i mean one of the reasons i left iran was was that because, i mean it's not only what you should remember about her job is that it's not only a clue. it's not only of a piece of code that you, where you are basically you learn from child food that your body and your body gets sexualized and that you should cover it from, for example, man from a gates. and that's what we should remember about it. that's not a simple quote, it's basically, it has an ideology behind it. it has a religion behind it. it has political meanings that wants to impose that on your

body. i mean the basic right that we don't have to really choose what you want to where. um, so for me it was, it was a, it's an important freedom to be able to wear. so what i want, because that's basically the basic for many other rights, many other freedoms. and it's, it's a freedom that many women and girls are now claiming in iran too. isn't that how does it make you feel to see a score in girls and women taking off their jobs to protest against the oppressive regime? to be honest, that's for me, the bravest act of resistance i've ever seen. and i couldn't believe that i can one day see this kind of sense in iran because i know how brave they are and how do operation and how, how aggressive and violent operation can be on them. but they still decide to resist it. although they know that they can be cute, like, remember, 4 months ago,

$22.00 or 32 year old boy. my so i, me, me, shoot for not to be, are in the hedge properly, not even, not comparing, not going to the standards of these limited public so they can actually get to for not very good job. what they decide to resistance. and you should respect that. yeah, my us to learn a raining actor is joining us from galway, thank you so much. thank you. it's been almost 2 months since russian president vladimir putin signed into law, a ban on so called l g b, t, propaganda and russia. it prohibits what it considers the promotion of non traditional values. the change is already effected a wide range of books and films with now illegal material. being censored and removed, critic see this as another step and the russian governments fight against western values. should this book be benz an you?

russian law says yes. if it depicts same sex relationships positively introduced a month ago, this law criminalizes the positive portrayal of non hetero normative relationships . in advertising films, books and the media, the new legislation is creating unrest amongst publishers, film, distribute as an authors. this library in moscow has already been told to pull quite a few books from it shelves. dockwood, it's your with authentic veronica in our electric catalogue. there are now books with the entry, borrowing is no longer permitted. what if it's unclear why these particular books were selected? unbelievable. albred's. last december, the duma, the russian parliament voted to toughen it so called gay propaganda law. critics complain that the criteria used to decide whether a certain work breaks the law or too vague. however,

the target appears to be clear. it's an attack on what ostensibly western values. that's how the russian human rights activist, ego catch cough sees it inches other than that, this is primarily anti western rhetoric leak is off. he assertion is that the west is imposing certain values on us and that something must be done about that. and the chairman at the state duma has some shop words for the west. you know them stop forcing alien values upon us. you've already destroyed your own, who knows where it will end to liquid logan for catch cough. it's no surprise that this legislation has been passed during the russian war on ukraine, which will is just as you, the timing's obviously not the authorities want to push through their idea that the country is not fighting against ukraine, but against the west as a whole. the u. s. and the you, they're trying to mobilize citizens and to convince them that they are our enemies,

gays and lesbians are repeatedly victims of violence in russia. often they are discriminated against by the state. there is, for example, a ban on l g b t q symbols, a holding public assemblies under the rainbow banner, while same sex relationships as such, where decriminalized in russia back in 1993 critic say that the so called gay propaganda law is stoking homophobia in the country yet, as soon as midnight, it sends certain signals and raises the question, how things develop. how will these people be sent to penal colonies at some point or even murdered, whom it would be wise? the activist eagle catch cough doesn't think that things will get to that point, doug, but he is certain that the russian government is hell bent on turning back the clock to soviet times. and here in the studio with me to discuss this new laws that lana donovan, she's with the court,

hera and association of germany's russian speaking l. g, b, t, q, community and its allies. good to have in the studio with us. so you are from russia, you've lived in germany for some 8 years. you fight for l g. we take you visibility, how does it feel to you to see that the government at home in your home country is trying to make this, your community invisible again? well, of course for the russian eligibility community, it's another turn of drastic repression. but the thing, it's not the worst that my government can do to educate people in russia. i mean, they're older, they're doing much worse things for, for eligibility people and not only in ukraine. so those 2 situations are not to compare. but yeah, people are very worried and they're looking to leave the country and even after the 1st and to prevent

a lot in 2013. there were many refugees from russia. and then we'll know about chechnya, which happened about the same time. and this is the 1st time we started working with the refugees from russia, but nothing prepared us for the amount of work, the number of people who seek help, who want to leave russia, which we are facing right now. yeah, this creates a hostile posture towards the l g b t q. community, doesn't it? what are the, the real live consequences of this law for the algebra community in russia? you know, so last time, after it was 1st introduced in 2013, there has been witnessed a huge increase in i hate crime. ah, there has been a study of by russians sheets, as you'll a just about hate crime in russia,

which is difficult to do because there is no such thing as there is no definition of hate crime against queer people in russia. but we've definitely witnessed how the population has become more and more hostile to sad towards the community because it's just, it is the safe impression. it's got the valley from every corner. you hear propaganda about the people being something i take something out of the world or something. the western enemy has imposed on the russian society, et cetera, et cetera. and yeah, for people who leave in russia and basically here every day and have, don't have like critical thinking skills on. yeah. maybe extra lies were there that

was being told right now. so are there any safe spaces left and russia for l g b t q people? some of them, yes. most of the organizations had to leave the country not only due to the anti propaganda law, but also before starting from the 24th february. there has been a menu was restrictions for civil society organizations for any kind of a protest or resistance against government. so many of them like we've worked in that many organizations in, even in the previous 2 years, they were threatened with being recognized as an international agents. and so it was already complicated it 2 years ago and lost here. and this year, i'm not last year, 2021. and 2022. it has become impossible. some of their organizations were liquidated. legally, like,

here are so many of them left the country and opened an angel like some entity legal entity outside of russia to be able to continue to do some of the operations. they offer a lot of tutors online, but it's not the same as a physical connection with the community by that i still some who can continue to survive, who continue to provide services even under the threat of being. and now that it's becoming a lot more important, right, at this law is not only extremely discriminatory, it's also very vague. what will the consequences be for russia's cultural landscape and for education of future generations to it's very vague because it's differentiates between propaganda and demonstration. and propaganda is prohibited

among all ages and demonstration is prohibited among my nurse. so basically that demonstration is in thing like in your, a demonstration of affection for example. and if it's, if it happens outside in the public in there are children, basically it's prohibited and it's illegal. there are very high fines. and they are also considering to try to introduce even more strictly for measures, for example, for for the 2nd time of, of being accused of propaganda. so you might get a sentence in prison. i bet there has been some discussion about the 2 and a lot of content has been censored already before that. but now it's just becoming even more ridiculous. i mean they can not delete all the content, but they're trying to. but what's the worst thing is the self censorship, because a publishing houses and channels and media,

they are so afraid to be associated with people because it's illegal. so they delete the content themselves and many of the articles. so that's the thing for clear people now in case they do, they need to gather information to apply for an asylum or humanitarian views them. they have to go online and find and save the articles if they are a public person. because i'm in the while there will be nothing to be found here in the russian internet. we don't have much time, but i do want to ask you about the work you do. and if it has increased since this law was yes, of course, it has increased since the full scale war on the 24th february, because we're people are very much involved in anti war activities in russia. and they didn't want to stay in the country. ah, but now, so the more we have a lot of requests to help with

a vacation in migration to very important job during spanish, a ton of i thank you so much for coming in today. ah. oh, francis is on day 2 of his visit to the democratic republic of congo, one of africa's most catholic countries, a pontiff, lead a huge open air mass in the capital kinshasa, an estimated 1000000 people, turned out to hear his message of peace and forgiveness. and recent months, conflict in the east of the d. r. c has displaced hundreds of thousands of people. ah, a day of pure joy, anticipation congolese catholics have long been waiting for this. pope frances, on his way to lead a massive open assa, others in their capital kinshasa, most of them were not yet alive. the last time the pope came to visit you. many people here camped actually outside this airport just to get

a good position to see the pope with their own eyes. many told us there were so excited about the paypal visit, the fast since 1985. i was wrong. so happy to come to bob, visit our country, and we hope doug visit gum. it can give our vote b as in our country because we have some difficulty up. okay, i understood the message that we should show mercy for each other. that we should reconcile that so that piece can come back to our country to ne, would he got to gauge it, but visit those if they're pulled the pony culture piece, he called for them to put an end to the war in the east. and i gave lester, even though geographically people here are far away from the conflict in the east of the country in their hearts and minds. then yes, peace and reconciliation of the 2 cornerstones of pope francis trip to the dear sea and later to south sedan. he came to draw attention to poor countries with protracted and neglected praises. and to remind the international community not to

ignore them. he also criticized rich countries of exploiting the african continent . newly mommy in hands off the democratic republic of the congo, my hands off africa stopped choking africa. it's not a mind to be stripped or to be plundered in st. louis. louis, okay, john. these words struck a nerve with the congolese, says this civil society leader. he says, the neglect of the international community became particularly visible during the war and ukraine. what you saw, the international community mobilized against the aggression from russia, against ukraine. now look out, they mobilized against the aggression for a wanda against our country. we're in the same world on same humans so that the support from the international community is reluctant to an absence of means. absence of sanctions to us. this is unfair. he and other catholics hope to hear more a clear messages from the pope. in the coming days on friday, the pope,

a continuous trip to south dawn, west message will also be about peace and reconciliation. to criticize the international community had grown accustomed to violence in this part of the wild. with his trip, his aim as to highlights another neglected crisis. and farewell for the end of the show you aircraft maker boeing has delivered it's final 747 jumbo jet, thousands of current and former. boeing workers attended a ceremony in washington state to bid farewell to the plane that held democratize air travel when it 1st took to the skies in 969 over 1700 of the aircraft were billed over 5 decades, but demand for the fuel hungry jain declined with a rise of more efficient planes. on production may have ended, the 747 won't be disappearing any time soon. hundreds are still in service. the skies around the world. and that's our time. but to stay in touch,

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