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it's that i was an entrepreneur, welcome to rolanda, et cetera, that i said after 2 weeks, i already had my 2 year visa possum inducement up pleasure movies at the diesel. but it's hard to imagine that less than 30 years ago, this country was the scene of one of the bloodiest genocides in history. but it has since rebounded and surprised the international community with its rapid transformation. president tagami has steered his country's development systematically. but at times with an iron fist modernization has involved demolishing various neighborhoods. more than $7000.00 houses are to be seized. 51 year old mustafah is one of those affected. you know, i used to park there and walk home. i get offered, caught until 2 years ago he lived with his family in this poor neighbourhood near
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the bus station. this is the 1st time he's been back 100, it'll adding more. that corn is growing. that was my land. look with the new the world. what i, while of my house, it went up to there. now i would. sure. lucifer is an actor. he had a 50 square meter house, built with 3 rooms, a kitchen and a living room. honeymoon recall that the will go down to a toilet were outside like that building there. in one day he was forced by the authorities to leave as compensation though residents are given new housing upon request allocated by the state, delaware, and objective him is a char. i accepted the offer happily mythical call. i told myself i'd get a better house and a nice neighborhood in full right now the state only this land we've bought some of the plots here in use to broke more and more on what 3 i knew will be hinged m,
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but maybe one day there will be a forest here in the bazaar like over there. bar barbara was aqua reesha. malala. rwanda has been carrying out expropriation since 2005. the state is legally obliged to pay compensation to the re settled families. ah, this is where i live and they call it a modern village to that. it is all most of us now lives 5 kilometers from his old house on one of the hills of kigali, a big change. the buildings resemble modern social housing, with gardens and green spaces, around 300 resettled families from various districts of the city live in the complex i do. most of us apartment has 2 bedrooms and
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a living room. plus a bathroom with a toilet. missouri. we are running water in the shower. in the old house, there was water, but no shower hoya. we used to wash and wanted to get tab little go, get em us. got up. most of us living standards have greatly improved thanks to this government property with running water and a furnished kitchen. but modern living comes at a cost. this living space is smaller than his previous one. and the children now have to share one room, 3 of them sleeping in one bunk bed. ah, up there with my sister. and very you sent me to where their older brother sleeps. yeah, before i had my own room and the son had to help room, even the brother whose room had to it's bigger and more comfortable. make this one month like i met another guy. you've met, improve privacy,
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but it's ok. such close living quarters aren't for everyone. especially when the compensation doesn't make up for the loss. some residents are putting up a fight in the family's old neighbourhood. this woman has decided to stay. we'll call her beatrice, but she wishes to remain anonymous, to avoid problems with the authorities. she runs a mobile business and it took her 4 years to build her house. leaving is out of the question. we are co, i worked hard to build this house, welcome. i wanted to talk to our little, i'd rather stay here then move into one of the new apartment for my house is bigger than what the government is offering me. those will be a tree says the government's offer would make her worse off, especially because this house earns her money. i don't know because we read out
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room here and one here. now i'm of the awkward vision award to i took the office. i'd only have space for my family, and then how would i may, the school fees for my children? i can get by with the income from render aria, rosamille campbells. the government only provides homes with one or 2 bedrooms and a living room every week or does it use her saturday to know what day? so with the to spare rooms, she can earn about 20 euros extra each month. and although she's making ends meet right now, she knows the situation could soon change. the mark painted on her house reminds her that every day in the lives of a government, marx crosses on the houses. they planned to demolish it. dollars in no hurry. i worry because i don't know what's coming in. i put my faith in god, in their glory alone against the government,
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be at least barely stand the chance. but there is another neighbourhood where residents have banded together to take legal action. our guide here is a local journalist who warns us not to meet them. we're filming with a hidden camera. oh. with boss barker, so i don't think it's a good idea. so this could like government official, has expressly forbidden it. and i might get into trouble for the middle month of this. what did alphabet talk to the media about it for my you told him our plans. who is eligible? yes. they know. i come here was really like, tell them about our program every day. the little program shapiro. school little this is how we learn a daily reports that our guide rides for the authorities about our filming and research. we tried to contact the neighborhood residents,
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but they all refused to talk to us out of fear of reprisals. the governments message seems to be getting through loud and clear throughout our filming were confronted with the harsh reality of a country that is safe, but highly monitored. police are everywhere in the city. as soon as we start filming without our guide, an officer approaches us friends to the government seems overly concerned about its reputation. as though it's trying to hide the misery that it can't eliminate. in 2016, around 56 percent of the population were still living below the poverty line. according to the world bank, it's $630.00 a. m. as resident start to go about their day and most of the children are getting
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ready for school. a small head emerges from below the sidewalk. no one really seems to pay much attention, but this is the head of a child. 2 boys have found a place to shelter in the drain. every morning they leave as inconspicuously as possible. as we approached, the children were confronted by a man and a woman. what's going on? i don't know where you from,
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from friends. what you're doing in rolanda. you work for an organization. why you were here yesterday evening. they are very suspicious of us and tell us they'd already been watching us still. yeah. you ask a lot of questions were officers, you've spent a lot of time. i've seen you before, but this is the 3rd time they tried to find out what we'd filmed and what we know street kids seem to be a touchy subject. their numbers have apparently gone up recently, especially because of the corona virus pandemic. children left to fend for themselves on the streets are now a common sight at nightfall. they have to hide from the police. officers are everywhere and they're supported by neighborhood militias. they targets
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street kids and petty criminals. any one age, 18 or older, is sent to a rehabilitation center. one is located on rewan does western border in lake cable, one of central africa's biggest lakes. it's 200 kilometers from the capital on a walla island. after several weeks of go, she ation, we received a permit to film. they're from the ministry of interior. this remote island is about 20 kilometers from the coast. the crossing takes almost an hour but after a few minutes, the boat suddenly stops. the engine won't start again. the little girl,
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the skipper tells us that the engine has been blocked by one of the plastic bags that end up in the leg from the democratic republic of congo. them with whom few fish live in the 2700 square kilometer like it's very polluted. and in the depths, there are high concentrations of methane and explosive gas that make swimming here dangerous. those are really important. you can swim for long in the lake because of the gus. it's life threatening. probably not that it's especially inviting today. after a fierce storm he won't. island appears in the distance. it's right on the border with the waters of neighboring democratic republic of congo. the area is under strict military control. the $140.00 hector island looks like a small paradise. but it houses
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a government built rehabilitation center. that actually seems more like a prison camp. hello. 012. 0, oh, oh. each morning begins with the rwandan national anthem. oh, so by 1600 young men from across the country who have been arrested by the police. all these men, between 18 and 39 years old, had been here for 3 weeks. isn't it that the 3rd regiment you are responsible for? the cleanliness of the whole facility on yoga quote is still cool,
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which was still well with those brought here are subject to a rehabilitation program lasting one year. most of them are drug addicts, some are former street children. the government has placed them here to cure them. of their apparently deviant behavior. did ye is 24 years old and frankie, golly, he was arrested for smoking cannabis and sent to key condo transit center. we have the full month's this when i, when i came here, i didn't know they come in cash you oh, they brought, they brought the buses, the buses, they brought the buses to, to pick us here. but i didn't know that better. we come here. there was no trial,
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no lawyer, and no official verdict. his arrest like so many others was arbitrary b o could. nathan also did that. there are no judges because of your sentenced by a judge. you go to prison mo and this isn't a prison. it's a rehabilitation center and she says, put up resources itself with her beat us. you'll be there, but they can't move freely here enough off who put installing the full they can't leave when they want because they'd risk going back on the street. otherwise, girl tornado donahue, nevada. so it's not a prison, but they're not allowed to come and go to populate the no, it's a psycho social rehabilitation center natasha optical society. the practices here have been condemned many times by human rights watch for a year. they will take part in a prescribed program of exercises that are repeated daily quarter. i don't know where you are here because you have disregarded the values of rwandan . society typically dealt with it with your actions. you have violated the dignity
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of your families and society will be you have done drugs and theft are not conducive to living an honest life with integrity of food. yeah. what it, what we'd call in that you must change your bad behavior. what i, what i did to interesting, okay, you had a question about what they're going with that they have to memorize the values of the republic which are drilled into them relentlessly by the teachers. the know it could, you don't go movie co op on the do let's recall the value of your wand and culture . she to do what you me for example, you don't actually go on that you need to respect them in order to change your behavior and your lives. who do that? um will, could you on local, what do you believe are the values upper wanted and some global ra mutual to get the values that constitute a true wanted i don't got and the good of our nation. yeah, go. well i'm, yes. what's your name daniel? here. what then go on, further honesty and integrity in that vector with young,
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honesty and integrity. yeah, let me go now. what else to see? how well quoted, yes yearbook legal, cornel. the love of work laura, was she looking for to have those? the voting was the can only the can not the bucket full to talk to the end up with dishes as the again my tasks. so is it to help my poor acquired dorsey with those values and even or so as a, as a psychologist it's my professional. he's really to the, to, to change. does your logical force and do those? the abnormal behavior, d, g sleeps in this hall along with a 100 others. every one is responsible for keeping their own sleeping area clean. this is my bed. and my blush, my each and every family cruises, i hear the furnishings are sparse and worn. there
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are 3 meals a day prepared by the detainees. lunch break is 30 minutes. miss and bins is only miss vincent means and my honorary or is exec nice. and he's so while then after would ever suffer more than 21000 young men have been sent to a while in 8 years. the government provides them with vocational training to ease their integration into society. in 6 months, d, j might learn masonry and be able to build new houses like these men for he'll learn to be a tailor and make uniforms for the center. he could also become a carpenter. a book, you know,
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the engineer has to be the same located on the, on a little bit, needs to be the same size. there are repeat offenders that this workshop they've been to a while before and are starting their training all over again. the coordinator says this happens to just 5 percent with this is my 2nd time at the center. well, when i was released i had no support to become a carpenter, a little put out. so i went back to the same bad circles as that was arrested and brought here for the 2nd time that he says that was a mistake. it, i don't take drugs anymore. what they didn't see that i changed. i was just hanging out with those people from before when they caught me, yet he doesn't appear to be suffering or to regret being here again from the inside . it's hard to tell that this is a secure facility. you don't see military personnel or guards around at
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times a while we're even looks like a holiday camp. it's difficult to know what's going through their minds. we meet the day again, harvesting eggplant. even though he can't leave of his own free will he stresses that a while while is an opportunity for him like will be here. my friend was telling you that we are dealing with a wife a bad when mother and i run by. i was very scared. i was, i was a fridge to come. he, they thought little they, they beat me the day with me when i get here. but it's not, it's not life how they told me. we have a good putting for there would penance he they hear our or a big my there. yes. in the was encourages ah,
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we noticed that the coordinator and his helpers follow us at every turn. at the end of the interview, da da is lead away. still wearing our microphone to hold, hold it. oh yeah. why were you talking like you're being threatened. how good. you talked about the big man like someone's watching you and told you what to say. what people will see in the film that you are uncomfortable with. know they asked questions about people in the center. i said they were like parents to us and when i said big man, i just met the director of the center with home. you looked at me like i was scaring you and telling you what to say. well sir, it goes when nurses in what a quicken loans will ears are when it's no, it's not like that. you wrong. i'm sorry, i said big magic along, but i meant it like a bother taking him on the with the told the nisa, what did you had?
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did ye touched a nerve over the years? there have been several reports from former residents of violence at the center. the manuel was on the island in 2018. he has very bad memories of his time at e walla hill. coronado dow. well there are too many things. i can't forget numa. it was terrible. why when we were punished for the smallest mistakes? good indian marino was one of whom sometimes we had to hold a sand bag for 3 hours to get on the gun. we're hold up a heavy piece of wood until a plane flew by in janine who did it is indeed a movie. i knew it was indeed uses it. he tells us they went easy on him because of his disabled leg, but he witnessed inmates abusing other inmates under the supervision of guards. bridges are you up for no return. i will die on the 1st day of them. the condo gun,
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la holding with me some were beaten when they arrive. roach, there was master pan. he could go to craig, people got trampled. we'll go to town. good. okay, good article schanzer. and it was brutal. it since it was there was one of the men made a mistake and was beaten until he bled her. get up to the cook in jamita as the bonnet in which eat you, then they pour the salt on his own. should i meet you at your mourn? one will go because i'm one he needs to get. some of the men decided to escape the island. somebody knew they swim away. she'd come with shock, a condo mas, any money, because we found their bodies a few days later. my theory to school with it or she was giving you 30 it is though it grew, if they'd have rather died do wednesday at a while long she musician for that anon deny. when we covered in bony old, the centres coordinator denies allegations of misconduct or several reports of
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violence. i don't know when they back on, i don't know about that. i don't know about any reports of violence in their statement, say otherwise. onward to yield, clone to national who see for yourself and people are happy here or sole social to her. i've never witnessed any violence here from water this of yourself. it is. um, have you heard about it? i've only even and paul, i don't want to spread rumors. if you sit in december 2019 multiple charges of violence were filed and authorities took action against several individuals. the trials took place before military officers in a court martial. in june 2021, 8 defendants were sentenced to 3 years in prison and find around 4000 euros. the case received little press coverage for independent media. freedom of expression is a daily struggling bewanda. john williams and twilio has been
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a journalist for 20 years to day. he's preparing for a risky interview. hello doctor and hi. al. got together with his camera man. he's meeting with intellectual and former journalist, christopher cachimba, who founded his own political party. i think her we're gonna consider from yeah, the authorities have since the band, his organization is that what he's now under defacto house arrest and rarely meets with journalists don't really use too good coverage form for the media. and use only was to talk to or if he a, b, b, c, v, o, e. but traditional media here excluded them completely. so tentative in his mc ko, it's a risky interview on a face, but i am taking the risk because i know i'm not hurting my country by doing an assistant for an hour. i look a lot. yeah,
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the 2 men discuss the economic situation of the country in the wake of the corona virus pandemic. as precaution, at no point did they mention the name of the president or his party, which is not something i do did anybody. but also think that i will discuss ladies, that perception, that when you discuss it, probably monday you ported to prison. the present is them there. it will be seen as pasano criticism under that a holds its own dangers above that say that only put him in order to publish the interview. john williams decided to lead the official tv channels and launched his own youtube channel. now do you new savannah said, but do i get would one and i given you some on just like many other journalists on the platform with to he is our shaquira quantity. rocket is york on cancels i'm the
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big advantage of you to, for us is freedom of expression. he, that there is much more than with official media. i need to hear. we are free. that the media classic or nearly but these journalists are still closely watched by the authorities. as we're about to find out, i have a message from our guide. we've been in the youtube or is office for under an hour and our guide already knows about it. i understand that you're about to do an interview with john williams and tori. could you tell me what topics you will be discussing? can i assume these are not topics that we have already discussed together? thanks for keeping me informed. i'm surprised by this message and 2nd that's how it is here. i told you here every one spies on every one. 0, almost not every one, but i'm not part of those spying on others. it's sheila but it's a lifestyle. yeah,
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we're used to it. let me say nick space use in rwanda. freedom of expression is a force for john williams and tory, it was no surprise. he's often the target of threats and smear campaigns on social media. and there are calls for his arrest. hadn't the one to go sit with total, it says here, half more people will be charged pussy. that includes me media hiding johnny williams says him, well, we're all targeted and not indirectly either near the very directly on simplicity. we don't know what's going to happen to us if not, sooner or later. we'll be in for a surprise, charles vanessa. a few days later, the well known blogger, a mob, like harris sera, was arrested. he's been accused of dividing the rwandan people. he now faces a prison sentence of 10 to 25 years. during our filming
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