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[000:00:00;00] ah ah ah ah ah, let's do that. we news lying from berlin, b e u plans, new sanctions on moscow by february 24th a year since rush has invasion of ukraine. european commission president was enough on the line and
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a team of top you officials. i've been holding talks with ukraine's, willa marie zalinski in cuba had a summit there on friday, also coming up. russia mark's 80 years since the battle of stalingrad vladimir putin commemorate the soviet victory over nazi germany and attempt to draw parallels with his war of aggression and ukraine. and scientists in the us are trying to piece together the puzzle that is long cove. it trying to find out why people suffer from the effects of covert months or even years after they had ah, and i'm nichol foolish. welcome to the program. it's the biggest e u delegation to visit ukraine. since the start of rushes invasion, european commission president was enough on the line and several other top european officials met with ukrainian president volunteers, the lensky and keith,
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to discuss new sanctions on moscow as well as a you aide to ukraine. there is the steel of a family get together. this members of the you commission gathered in cave for a historic joint meeting with the ukranian government. he, you, commission president, was to live on the lion said they were there to show you up stands as firmly as ever, with ukraine in its war with russia. our presence in chief to day gives a very clear signal. the whole of the european union is in this with ukraine for the long haul. and we will stand up for ukraine as we stand up for the fundamental rights and the respect of the international law. but amidst all the smiles in solidarity sits another issue, i guess, for you, ah, ukraine's president vladimir zalinski once she craned to become a fully fledged member of the e. u. family. and quickly, i moved that bond to lion appears to endorse you,
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prepared your application for the european union membership brilliantly. i know it by experience you became acquainted at country while fighting an invasion. you'll continue to make impressive progress to meet the 7 steps of the commission's opinion. part of that progress is renewed, crackdown on corruption, including this rate at the home of one of your cranes most prominent billionaires. just a day before the e. u team's arrival in cave, that timely demonstration of the landscape determination to prove to doubt as in europe, that he and his government can be trusted. not only as a future e u member states, but also with billions in aid as him when the country starts to rebuild visible door level. but regarding for reconstruction. so were a lot of discussions on various levels in europe,
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risk regarding the rebuilding of our country after the war concret. now it is time, i think, for more concrete details, luasa both the fast reconstruction given and for fast financing of his process for our important process. he in the here and now the e. u has promised to continue its support for ukraine by hitting russia with a fresh wave of sanctions who when it comes to e e. e membership, it looks like president the landscape would just have to wasted booty. earlier d, w corresponding mathias billing. i joined us from keith and gave us this assessment on the meeting between fun alignment. zalinski is absolutely not part of the usual job description, offer e u. com research or travel with all his. their fellow commerce are the 16 of them . plus from the line plus shot michelle, the head of the european council where the heads of state and government meet, they altogether travel into a war zone for that's a big gesture, of course, and you've just heard the words are by on the line. and zalinski are making sure
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that this big gesture is perceived as a big gesture, almost a little bit lofty. but it's, of course, a working meeting where a lot of things need to be discussed not only assistance to ukraine by the european union. that means monetary assistance, economic assistance, and several measures that should ur, sustained the ukraine in economy, but also the process of accession. ukraine is a candidate for your membership since last year. and of course, this is a follow up on this process. as when he is spending a reporting, their sch or russian president vladimir putin has attended the common ration of the 80th anniversary of the soviet victory over german forces at the battle of stalingrad in the city. no. now, as vulgar grad student began with lang arissa at the memorial complex to the fallen red army soldiers. he later spoke at an event where he criticized germany for
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helping arm ukraine. he said russia is once again threatened by german tanks. if this is his latest attempt to compare russia's war against ukraine to the soviet victory over nancy, germany and world war 2, listen to some of white curtains settled. my welcome, new york. no, no fuck. it is unbelievable. noah, but it is a fog near scheme. duncan, we are again threatened by german lepper. tongues with crosses on this side disorder. christie, miss williams, we have not sent our tongues to that bolder, but we have something to answer with. and the use of ahmed vehicles will not be the end of it yet. yeah, everyone should understand this solution at the premium, right? on the w, russia, analyst, constantine, and god is an villainy us. and he has been following the story. very closely. constantine, let's begin with what we just heard from boot and what do you make of it? well, it's very standard putin of the last months and i would say,
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i would say in the years are comparing what happens today. his invasion of crying to, ah, not to germany's invasion of the soviet union, more than it is again, a. basically, it always struck me by the way. the goal is that it escapes the arnie escapes him. it's know he's playing the knots roll in some way. if you, if you extrapolated, but i think that this is a message that he has been hammering home all the time. we are engaged, we as russia are engaged in exec, existential struggle, which is only quote to the 2nd world war which school the great path re arctic war, or in the, sorry, june, and modern day russia. so i mean, he's not veering off from, from, from the script and he sees himself as i don't know, probably not as joseph stalin, but as during his yoke of a stollins, a number one marshal who was a very successful military leader of the time. so, oh, yes, we do see potent,
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once again telling the russians the war that happens to day, or rather, as it's cold in russia today, a special military operation is absolutely comparable to what happened between 1941 in 1945. but you know, you just said it there. if we want to go into that comparison, the roles between that war and this war are very much reverse now. so who exactly is this narrative aimed at? because in the west, this is falling on deaf ears. everybody knows what happened. so does the audience at home, believe him, who is he, who is he targeting here? well before i also give you an example, a friend of mine who is a presenter for one of a russian independent and a tv and youtube channel channels. oh, told me a week ago that she was trying to weeks to explain to her mother who is probably 60 or something like that. that it was the soviet union that invaded poland in 1939
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together with nazi germany. and she told me, my mother didn't believe it for a 3rd time. so it futon is aiming at the oldness in russia, which believes that russia is never at fault. and at the same time, this is the audience that, well, if not support the war, then at the says, okay, put in those what he's doing and put in his always trying to consolidate his base. and this is exactly the message for it. but now the enemy's not, you cry. if you look at russian propaganda channels, they're always full of praise for the ukrainian people vote and vote rushes fighting nato in the proxy war. this is the message that's being sent by put into the russian people. and that's why he mentions lay apart tanks with crosses, ah, own them, they're not going to have any crosses on them anyway because they were going to be repainted in or by the ukrainians bots. the idea is to invoke this old soviet adara,
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that the whole europe was against the soviet union during the 2nd world war. so essentially we have action replay of saudi of propaganda bought with use of, you know, more than television techniques, social media and relentless, 247 propaganda. and that makes it auth warren, dangerous d, w. consenting again in vilnius. thank you so much. thank you. and we also want to hear from d, w political correspondent, simon young for the germans side of things. because putin has been attacking germany, threatening germany for using the support germany has been providing for ukraine to draw a parallel with nazi germany, aggression in world war 2. was this something the german government saw coming? yeah, i think so. i think vladimir putin has done this again and again, he's got his own version of how the world works. he says that he's in ukraine
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fighting what he calls ukrainian nazi isn't. now here is doubling down ways, frankly offensive suggestion that the modern federal republic of germany is somehow in league with nazis. but of course, german leaders know very well that it's, it's easy to misrepresent your support, giving now to ukraine as it, as it baffles against the invader. as by making these comparisons that putin makes with the nazis in the 2nd world war, the ukrainian soil, after all, is the very territory where some of the worst not sea troll cities were carried out in the day. putting himself with speaking today on the site of stalingrad, the biggest battle in history with the death toll of 2000000. so, you know, it's easy to sort of mix up the history and i think that's what people hear as see
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that by the mer putin is doing, i would say, oh, laugh schoultz has been speaking this evening. he did just directly respond to vladimir putin threats. but he did say that it was time for vladimir putin to withdraw from ukraine to make way open the way for peace talks here. and he also said that he would continue to speak with me approaching by phone as he's been periodically doing. do you think the threats that we just heard coming from russia couldn't reinvigorate the debate over providing key with more arms now that we're talking about fighter jet why will invigorate probably those on the far right of german politics, for instance, in the ifd party. ironically, it's very who are closest to vladimir putin and we've been speaking against the arms deliveries. i think as far as the german government is concerned, it's now sending leopard turns at certain sides
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a lot of other equipment over the last month. and you know, as the debate goes forward, people are conscious of the need for caution and the need for circumspection. but sir, i think the german government sort of commitment to backing ukraine is very clear to w salmon, young and berlin. thank you so much. take a look now at some other stories making headlines around the world. today. the prime minister is a finland and sweden save the they remain committed to joining nato. at the same time they were speaking a day after the turkish president repeated his opposition to sweden's been a recent koran burning, and stockholm has angered on ca. protestors in the democratic republic of the congo have urged pope frances to address sexual abuse in the church. the demonstrators gathered ahead of the pontiff arrival, had not saddam cathedral in the capital kinshasa. it's a 3rd day of the pope's visit to one of africa's most counseling countries. the
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european central bank has hiked interest rate again, increasing them by half a point to 3 percent on thursday at the rigth height in a row intended to curb euros on inflation easy. the president christine law. god underlined the banks continuing drive to tame inflation even as the european economy slows, reduce suicide. bomb attack on a mosque in pakistan this week has left the country security forces unsettled the attack targeted officials praying at the building, which was located in a secure police compound. the bomber was reportedly disguised in a police uniform. now officers are calling for measures to protect the people tasked with protecting the public. oh, it is a rare protest. they're not civilians, but police officers in pakistan, scraper, booked on her province, demanding security. as you st. bombing in a mosque on monday killed many of their colleagues,
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but this was not the only attack militants here a relentlessly targeting the police. last year, more than 100 police officials lost their lives in desert related incidents. i was them every day. are men are being martin, a know what is protesting and asked him why they're being killed. don't what is it under do and from on your head. how did a suicide attack it into the police compound? we demand answers for joe, up we demanded justice for our dead income. he thought me lataya as this protest was happening, funerals were taking place, but the guilt in the class dis, family. if morning there was a policeman with father was also killed in obama dec more than 40 years ago. and just a few kilometers the week. and their family is grieving for an officer who leave behind
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a widow and fight children with these frequent tax and security officials mean civilians do are forced to stay alert roblis. now when the police officers pass me, i fear that if the police are attacked, i might also be attack a nominal. but if the people who are meant to protect us are being attacked, put on who will really protect us, won't get into the product. you are investigating who is responsible for the mosque attack as security forces fight to 334 militancy in north western pakistan. and he w production and iraq has been halted for security reasons, are arabic service host to far abdul karim and his team were forced to cancel an episode of their debate. show jaffar, talk and baghdad. after receiving threats, as well as pressure from the iraqi government to far talk is watched by millions in the era region and tackles topics deemed to boot in the region,
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including violations of human rights, l g, p t q, right, and gender and hon. the day. and joining me now, and it is jaffar abdul karim. he just arrived from baghdad to far this wasn't the 1st time you were shooting a show in iraq. you've been there several times and it all worked out fine. what happened this time around? why, why did you have to? yeah, that's the question i'm trying to answer because when i look back now in this picture, and it's an empty set, we're supposed to day to produce our talks are with guests and with their public joining us. but what's happened is 1448 hours before we before producing the show you had a and iraq immediately that produced a video and where we tackled topic about homosexuality. but they showed it as if it is something wrong with something perverse. and they started a hate campaign in his speech campaign online. from this his fed a campaign online, it went down that some people tried that to stop the show because they announced
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where we are producing it on what time and it's that's 7 thursday. and then another, the official part is that there is a commission for communication in iraq and they suddenly ask us for permission for an additional new permission that we shouldn't have. or we kind of have because we're working with our partners to get an iraq. and then the peak reached when some guests are joining us, called us and say they are getting threats. and then the height is when i was sitting in the lobby with my team and security security officers from the interior minister, iraq interior minister approached us and said, you don't have a permission and it's better to leave the country and the kind of light threat i would say so then we said it's time to we have to stop it unfortunately. and it must been high breaking right. you for you. so much work is heartbreaking for the whole team. it is heartbreaking for freedom of speech. it's breaking for
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a lot of young iraqi is that our show has been for years for them. the platform for speech, talk about everything they want a, it's an independent free talk show where we talk a very controversial topics that other arabic speaking media. they don't talk about and that's the, you know, the dna of java, talk to the people talk to, to discuss. and now we had to leave iraq and the whole people we are invited. we're also like kind of shocked and there's a big support that we're getting from other journalists. but you know, you've got to feeling like how every journalist are most of the journalist and activists. the human rights activists are working in iraq because they are maybe threatened every day and now we know how it feels like, and that's why our work and our support for freedom of speech and for human rights will continue. they might shut down the talk show in baghdad, but we got to continue producing the talk show here in berlin. and we will go back
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to that because the dialogue would continue. because there is a, you know, there's a generation that believes in freedom and human rights, but it's, it's, it's not easy to sit here and to see what happened. and, you know, this happened over the last 24 hours. i just arrived today in berlin, burning at 3 o'clock. i'm no longer here in the studio. it's not easy, but our believe is big and the team and the daughter vela and you know, the whole or media institution and then my daughter bailey, is supporting and we keep on believing and what we need you out in the field. you're doing great work. it up, don't let them intimidate, you know, let them discourage you know, korean, thank you so much thing me. thank you so much. countries around the world have declared an end to the co 19 pandemic restrictions, but life is far from normal for the millions of people who continue to suffer from long covert even years after they contract the virus. a new
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u. s. study has found several risk factors that could explain why the illness lingers so long and some people the lasting legacy of the korean. a virus pandemic comes in the form of long cove. it more than 3 years after coated 19 1st broke out. we still haven't pinned down what causes it. one study reported that 36 percent of people who had a positive p. c. r test for cove. it 19 went on to develop the condition. most long cove, it cases are in patients who and traditionally hospitalized with the virus. we are seeing people who are suffering from over 200 different symptoms that impact multiple different organs. and we currently don't know the exact cause of long toville, and that's something that we are investigating. the organs effected can include the hot lungs, immune system, kidneys, brain, liver, and the reproductive system. long covert has been associated with reduce sperm count, diabetes, blood clots,
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and strokes. the sheer number and diversity of symptoms make singling out the cause difficult for such as are investigating full main possibilities. it may be that there is a store of the corona virus hidden somewhere. the immune system could be turned against the body. the initial infection could have activated other domain, viruses and tissues damaged in the early days of the illness may not have been properly repaired. and these 4 hypotheses are not mutually exclusive, it's possible that a person can have multiple of these things going on or sequentially. and that's what we're investigating long curve it may last for weeks, months, oh, years off to an initial infection. patience but own cove in have been waiting so long to have some sort of therapy that's effective. and so we really need to start randomized,
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placebo controlled clinical trials as soon as possible. there are some trials that have already begun, but we need a lot more in a law, a lot quicker than the pace that we're doing it right now for kiki i was talking her colleagues to planning a trial to investigate the effectiveness of the antiviral drug packs. of it, a treating long cove, it the priority for the scientist is to find therapies that work. in the meantime, the emphasis is on rehabilitation for patients to try and help them cope. and we are now joined by a kink, osaka, professor of immunology at yale university, an expert on lawn cove. it and the person you just saw in that report. welcome. have we taken long cove? it seriously enough? i don't think we have taken longer of it. seriously. enough, in some countries, the concept of long coded is not even discussed and people don't even know about it . at this point in the pandemic,
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we should be really promoting the public awareness of this disease. and what about the number of long covered patients? we heard some 36 percent of people who catch cove itself for long term symptoms. that's millions and millions of people. how big of a problem kind of become for society and the health care sector to currently we don't really have a great surveillance mechanism to count the number of people with long coded, but a conservative estimate of 10 percent of people acquiring long cove. it from an acute infection would put the number to 65000000 people around the world. and that's likely in an under estimate of the actual number of people suffering from this disease. is there anything people can do to prevent long coven? especially now that many countries, like germany, for example, or scrapping pandemic measures altogether. yeah, that's a great question. obviously, avoiding the infection itself is
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a really good measure to do. but there are other things that people are trying currently because we don't understand how long it develops in a person. it's difficult to come up with a great measure against it. vaccination might bring down the risk for long cove. it by about 30 percent. and what are the prospects for a cure because we're looking at such a diffuse pathology, aren't we? do we have to tackle all the dear friend symptoms at once? are you looking for for more specific cure is do stuff or a simply have to hope and wait. what, what is next? how. how can people who do suffer long code at this point and keep, keep going and keep kind of the optimism? yeah, it's so difficult for so many millions of people are currently there is an effective
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therapy and that's what we're really working towards. and there are many, many other scientists and doctors who are working on this problem. but you know, i believe that there will be cures found for this disease. we just need to dig harder and we need to really start some clinical trials to understand who benefits from what therapy. so that we can help people as soon as possible. are you getting enough resources for your investigation? and it's a little difficult to get resources now that the public interest, as well as the government, is cutting back on some of the emergency measures. but there are some sources that we are hoping to get enough resources to do research. and what's really important is a global sort of concerted effort to study this disease because one lab cannot do it and then labs can't do it. the whole, you know,
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community has to get together and tackle this problem. i can call us ocoee of yale university. thank you for this insights. thank you so much. and a quick reminder of the top story we're following for you today. european commission president was enough on the line has said that you plan to place fresh sanctions on moscow before the 24th of february, exactly one year after russia invaded ukraine on the line made the announcement at a summit in cave. the sanctions are expected to include additional price caps on russian petroleum products coming up after securing pledges of tanks. ukraine now also wants fighter jets and submarines to the point, discusses at all. did you over that with ah,
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with a to the point, a clear position. international perspective.
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