this is the 77 percent. the platform for africa, fleet issues and share ideas. you know, are these channels, we are not of great captain, delicate tub because population is growing. in young people clearly have the solutions. the future belongs to the 77 percent. every weekend and d w some of the worst violence in years is broken out between israelis and palestinians at its height last week, a palestinian attack outside the synagogue left 7 people dead unprovoked widespread condemnation, including from the arab world. a day earlier israeli forces had rated the janine refugee camp in the occupied west bank. 10 people died. most of them reported to be

government on a visit to israel, us secretary of state antony, blinking called on both sides to calm tensions and set a 2 state solution was the only way to end but conflict. my guess this week is the head of the palestinian mission to the u. k. or some sub lot. does he believe that's possible? we see no approach to achieve that, but does the palestinian leadership have the authority among its own people to negotiate with israel and unite the different factions? why the never ending allegations of brutality and corruption it's rags? isn't it time for a new leader who cannot the trust of his people and the outside world for sums up law? welcome to public zone. thank you. where is all this violence leading? all this violence is absolutely leading to one fact that until a new palestinian generation is born free of occupation in colonization. and the

part time no matter how more is really brutal, it will be more brutality, more pressure, no matter international complicity. nothing will change until that is achieved. what can stop it this violent killing? now this current phase of violence, what can stop one of the main reasons why people are choosing the lives because for many years we have been talking about 2 side. does him, for many years, we have been talking about negotiations and peace processes for many as we have drawn the wrong parallels between the occupied and occupier of the colonizer the colonizer for many as we receive us, secretary of states and presidents mediators, without addressing the real issues for money as we are hearing the statements the, the us and europe and the u. k. is with the 2 state solution. now, secretary, blinking calls for equal measures of freedom of opportunity, of dignity and security, calling for the solution. what is your response to that without any of what we see,

no approach to achieve that when you're, when you're a punch or what kind of city and people have been subjected to a 100. this is the but for declaration, promising our land without consulting us until today we are living on our land. we are resilient and resisting all the legalities and we are growing. we have our universities and professors and plans and what are we? we have would stood all the pressure and we of the to defend our rights. and our rights now are enshrined in international consensus from the time of the beginning of zionism when it started to say that there is no such thing as punishment in people to do today. where do you have in the united mission, the tag of the state of palestine? like we have gone the then back process president, mr. the palestinian attack last friday, outside the synagogue on the outskirts of to promote outrage around the world.

including including among many arab countries in the past, the palestinian authority is condemned, a tax on and on civilians. why not this? let's talk about that. why not this time? let's talk about that. ok, every human last is a pleasure the and you know very well them for all the earth that our strategy has been a non violent, popular resistance reverting to international traditional system and international institutions. the saw strategy. but let's talk about so what are you saying that it's out of control violence? let's talk about the annual side is out of control. let's, let's talk about that. no. the, the sole responsibility of that incident that you talk about is on israel's government. the well doesn't seal or this is on the word, i don't see that. so that's why i accept your invitation to come and to tell the world the truth as it is. the truth is, is really government since illegally. it's a war crime, it's citizens to illegal saturn was now very, are cool. is an illegal settlement in the occupied east? jerusalem. the former responsibility of what happened lies squarely on the

government. but since these civilians to commit acts of war crimes and illegal, okay, you keep saying you do not say and why you keep saying it's their responsibility for the last 10 months. they've been plenty of warnings. if out of worsening security, essential am i can i, can i get with, can i finish the question by november the u. n. said the convict was reaching boiling point. did no one take any notice how hard did the palestinian authority try to stop this particular phase of via the ha ha, the heart of this. what did they do until they do one major thing is to be so religious about international law is to be so principal about international law and the use of international legal system. we voted this to the international criminal court because we want to establish accountability. and we only last month asked for an advisory opinion of the international court of justice. that's the highest

a national legal system to create accountability because it is the lack of accountability that has gotten us to where we are today. with this most formright fanatics of government in his own guess what them. and this is the real discussion who blocks us from going to these international tradition organs. it's the united states vote against us. it's the united. you won't have any way you when you, when you went anyway, we'll keep our anyway. but you know what? international rules and lou is distant when it comes and applied to your friend. and there is the west where it has been feeling for all these years. when it comes to ezra and, and compare that to ukraine, by the way, when it comes to israel, israel is always shielded by the west. shielded by the u. s. and the okay from our i don't have a list is the only accountability. this is the medical exam lot. there haven't been any meaningful peace talks for almost 10 years. how do you emerge from this un ending cycle of blame and violence? jewish israelis think they are the exclusive victims in this conflict. palestinians

say they're the victims. you're a diplomat. how can you help move the discussion on from this point me principal, by a stop wasting time by really addressing the real suffering of the people. our people has been under aggression for a 100 years started in a concrete terms, a new president, mahmoud abbas said last year. he had no choice but to deal with benjamin netanyahu . is that still the case? and if so, what kind of dealings is he going to have with mr. newton? yeah, are talk concrete con classes can get mr. nathan here who will not be with us. we have no partner in this early site. mr. nathan, yahoo, that's what he says and, and that's what he does also, mister nathan, you know, has formed the government. the 1st sentence of the agreement of the coalition only few weeks ago is that this government will commit to the land of israel from whatever for the sea, and the will accelerate the colonization occupied westbank. here. you have it right in front of it,

getting you in the face of the whole world. this government does not only not commit to the 2 state solution, but will actively seek to destroy it to dismantle a water netanyahu. is that right? you dismissed him a long time ago. in the past you said he was someone who was very extreme in every sense. he said you are, you have a dream. and that dream is that we palestinians vanished and simply ceased to exist . this is what you say about me. so you are, you are not going to have any context where the semester aren't going to try this this, this, this, this person, this man one, the 1st election in 1997, just few months after a bean was assassinated wirelessly, new. and this person one on the ticket that he will detail the awful piece process . really the whole 2 state solution. and he brags about that, and he is so happy saying every morning and every evening that he has devastated international consensus about acosta solution. so deal with home on what grounds on what grounds. this is exactly how we started this discussion. we need to focus on

the real issues. and the real issues is the lack of accountability that will bring and different leaders and as well, there's really people feel a sense of impunity and no consequences, no cost associated with all these illegalities. and therefore, and therefore they will use all grossing these fanatics like been via and smoking was i'm not to the americans. the real deal is the 2 state solution. no question. moving forward on that. absolutely not in your eyes. of course, this is our, our, our platform since 1988. we have fully recognized the 2 state solution allied our since completely with international resolutions and know you've been recognized the state of israel on the 1960 people you know, people aren't supporting it in the last week palestinian center for policy and research showed 2 thirds of palestinians are against it as well as 53 percent of israelis hasn't got a chance. but they're not against us because they don't want to see the military

occupation ending that because 967. thank finished. why not against? because they don't want the freedom and independence and liberty and that there are 3 with each of the capital of punish that, not against us. because they don't want to see refugees return to their properties and homes that are against that because they believe it's not possible. they are against it now because it's a protest bought to say that we see no international action in this direction. we soon we see no is a constant one. see pushing in that direction and why should we endorse it? of course, that's how the action do palestinians, ordinary palestinians, even listen any more to, to you to the leaders. in fact, the new militant groups in the west bank no longer listen to the authority. the novelist brigade, the 2 best brigade, the lions den. they're all outside your control. when people are people they, they follow their guts and you know, you come we are we the palestinian

side has been the only side committed to the also provisions for a long time. actually, it has to overstate that will come our commitment for a long time until only last week. you just embed security. actually again, many times you've done the security code division was meant to stop the illegal it is, was meant to stop the invasions and the raids was meant to provide, provide protection to our people security called the national was meant to back role occupation, security, coordination was meant to be a corner stone and building our state that is no longer holding and that's why it stopped and it can only resume or be resumed once it is part of liberation. not part of continuing the starter school as it has been using it. not only in the security sphere in every sphere, these really mentality must change. the palestinian national institutions are var to achieve our national rights are to be subjected and unsolved to the palestinian people. they need to understand that. let's talk about the palestinian national

institutions hasn't, hasn't the palestinian authority itself become responsible for holding back progress last year that tony blair institute for global change want of what it called a deepening crisis in palestinian politics and a breakdown of the posted in leadership that's lead the posting cause and it standing to go backwards. that's right, isn't it? the blue institute conceal whatever it's once they're not the they can say whatever they want. we have national institutions. we have the palestine liberation organization, the fighter present, the or the london. my office is the p a law representative officer. then i could tell them i headed the p a law office in washington, the world recognize the palestine liberation organization. as the umbrella organization, we have all the palestinian political factions represented in that umbrella organization except hamas. there is a process of dialogue right now to include every one, but the piano remains to be the representative of the palestinian people. there is

an internal elections and that we need to improve it. that is a huge room of improvement. we are locked saints and under the most adverse circumstances, no one should expect us to act like st. yet, we need to deliver some sort of institutional setting and democracy that our people deserve and seek. you're talking about getting democracy there haven't been election since 2006 and 74 percent of your p. want muffled a bus to go over your population that most of your population hasn't even had the chance to vote to told the palestinian authority is too scared to test itself and within actions through the policy authority. again, it's the p a law the trans, the sure the palestinian authority is an organ is or is an offshore of the people. yet we are, we have been one of the few in the region to conduct elections as you very well. remember, we were conducted elections in 20052006. and when the results came out, it was here, london, and berlin and washington who actually completely boycotted the results and sent

shock waves in our system and our ability to conduct our governments. we have issues. we want to convene elections by the way, the source of all of the messy husband elections, even yasser arafat. the letters are for who knew that he was the father of the nation, had to get the approval of his people and offered himself for elections in 1096. but we have issues, we cannot and will not convene elections according to the israeli. the definition of elections, elections should start in the occupied. he's your son and we are free of the value or definition we have a 17 month with us is 17 years, a president, our best was elected by his people. president. our boss was a founder of the national liberation movement. fatter, a fatter according to all bonds still is in the leading of the palestinian a political popularity. if you me, president, our boss is the head of the p. a law president. our boss is not just the church

though, the president of the pension authority, it's very important to me that distinction. he has that capacity the legitimacy of all these institutions yet. yes, we need to offer the palestinian people the ability to convene elections and we need to for time where we need to sort out as was v to over is jerusalem. we have 300000 palestinian jewels filaments. they have the absolute right to actually vote the, you know, cost the vote and decide who the president and who the parliament is. but also we will not allow is especially in light of problems illegally to overcome negativism . we will not allow it to pocket jewels and then should we not convene elections in jerusalem and we need to make sure that garza the 2000000 besieged and gaza are fully included in that. and hopefully the answer to you and it must happen yesterday. so there is a process as julia is involved. egypt of course, as a major player. but you are absolutely right. elections is over to you and we must

convenient. how does i'm not sure i, we form a top p l o leader said recently of the palestinian authority, the week of the system, the more it closes in on itself and the more oppressive it becomes, the future could be peaceful. she said that the longer it takes to see real change, the more probable violence becomes if you don't allow for peaceful democratic ways of transferring power, people will find other means to express themselves. that's a warning from a very senior and very much respected official in yellow. she is. she'll young taking any notes you leave with a fresh political monday would change the situation. people that she is and that there's your 100 isn't my law. she is. she was on the executive committee of the highest sponsoring and politic construction. that is, the piano miss tells you we ought to have it. society is the freedom of expression, the different views. actually, there are too much different views and people express that abuse, which is welcome. but 1 point, one point there are some, hannah is very genuine,

wanting to make sure that our admissions are democrats, and we will live up to that. but there are some people who misused this to say the palestinians and brought it upon themselves. that because they are not united because they are mismanaged occupations as continue or not tonight. and the oppression is continually, i'm sorry, we are united as a people from us as the people where the people who are united. we have political differences between political actions, sees deliberations. but as you know, different play sees it in a completely opposite way. we all know engaging, but the people of by the start are united and i can even gauging, you know, getting exempt as of the people unity from 2021 and this year on what happened and the whole palestinian nation inside is what i said in the occupied territories in gaza outside you lighting in one voice and the same thing repeated since last week when they did, janine, we are united people. how many of i heard this and how many times?

is it proven to be untrue? i want to pick you up on something you said earlier, you talked about freedom of speech that despite 2 years of promising to improve your human rights records by a nation's continue, there is no political will to change. is that take torture? the un committee against torture said last august, it was concerned about consistent reports, consistent persons in custody, and both the west bank and gaza, subject to torture and ill treatment. you ashamed of that? well, nobody should be subjected to torture. and we as a nation, and are you ashamed of? and we as a nation under oppression for all these years should behave in a certain manner that respect human rights. because you don't, you don't one by what? again, we operate under very adverse circumstances. some people want us to behave in a certain manner and we shouldn't. but we need to remember when you put another democracy is incomplete under the boots of a military occupation because they decide if you are on elections in this. and if

you do, then they will arrest those who are running the elections. and if they don't, that is then before they win, or before they're on the artist them off that. so you telling me these really is responsible for you torturing your own people on an i'm telling you the situation over all cannot be measured or judge according to a standard that you apply on a normal situation. people should never be tortured anywhere, including in palestine. that's, that's completely a reject it. but i want to revisit the whole idea of this whole palestinian behavior because there is a school of thought that wants to link or birthright as in the right of self determination or behavior. no, sir, i want to say we should be here, but should we misbehave? we don't lose our rights. we were united during just artifact that father had hammers and everybody us out of it was you know, the father of the nation. you. so what these are, you can have, we stay with us, can we stay with the press? did we will because the present is, is bad enough of course, but the past was about, did we achieve our rights?

did we conclude the peace process when we are united? so this whole unit to thing is an internal palestinian matter that we need to sort it for our own priorities. it has nothing to do with our rights or the engagement with israelis or the international community. why do you keep promising year after year to do something about human rights and then nothing happens. of particular concern has been the case of the civic activist visit, but not who died in detention in 2021 after the arrested and apparently beaten and severely tortured by your hebron preventative security forces. why no accountability for that death, and why do the 13 people who were put on trial allowed out on a 9 day holiday last year from detention? i wonder what sort of a found the i don't know. well, you'll get to what sort of advisor i don't know what you get to them for formation from that incident was absolutely regrets have been rejected by the palestinian people and there was, it happened, it happened and it was wrong that had happened. so that's why i got way off again,

of course, of course, but then at least we got the all these officers to a court and they were invited all of them accountability happen. but the question i want to be asked is how many it was really settlers about the palestinians? although that was one incident, one guy lost his life regrettably, how many palestinians lost their lives over the last year or the last few years. 230 only in 2022. the highest says the on begun records in palestine. $35.00 says last month, only january 2023. some of them are banned by israeli civilians who are very armed . how many israel have brought to justice? did they bring to justice? the people who burned atman, though upshar, do you know that the person who shot 20 and i, and worshippers, and, and colleen and hero in the ninety's 1993 borrow? goldstein is now worshipped in israel. more than $10000.00 and visit him. you see there is a lot of focus on sporadic, isolated events and palestine. but there is

a lack of war forecasts on the systematic, chronic lack of accountability, lack of democracy, the presence of apartheid. if you are, if you were a little discussion because there's other, if you weren't israeli official sitting there, i would be asking you these questions. but i'm asking you about what the palestinians do because you want to represent the, which i understand you should do more answer. answer me this question. how hard is it to champion the cause of the palestinians around the world these days? it's, it's, it's, it's very inspiring. i feel so prevalent. it is the honor of my life and i am so inspired. whatever i go, are you, lizzie, hopefully you will make progress. comes my heart is full of hope. a few see what i see every day. i leave you here and they go to the london school of economics where there are 3 major universities convening a talk for palestine. the london school, the u. c. l and kings come and see the students come and see the generations of the future. i'm sure you've seen what happened to london in 2021. israel attacked at

luxor and the shifter a hand in gaza. there were, there were, there were things of thousands. i did not expect to see that a roar of people. people are people everywhere more than 50 years of occupation. do you think you live to see a 2 state solution? what antony, blinking an independent palestinian state, living side by side with israel, do you think you'll live to see that? oh yes. oh yes. how, how, how will the, the sport or the trajectory of things are absolutely in our side when israel was established primarily its beginning with this country? there was not even the cognition of our existence in the budget for declaration. 67 words. it says, respecting the religious and civil minorities and rights of the minorities. we were 3rd by balfour and the british authorities at the time, minorities with only 7 and religious rights. we have no national rights. my do think things are going your way. last time was huge number the dying for their

cause and their battles. okay, no, no, no, that's not ok that dying because that is a military occupation that the shooting them and killing them. and you and i need to discuss how we stand out there every once you talk on killing of it, but not the only one that be gone. we would not recognize as a nation. look up us, you are talking to the policy and ambassador to the u. k that came after a 100 years of a generation after generation of resistance or resilience and the revolution and yes, our father and all that generation that brought to seattle discovery and also about the narrative. when it began, as one was the beacon of democracy for the was every one of your generation has taken part in our keyboards of israel as i was celebrated everywhere to the as i, as in the international media, it's tarnished and the new generations apiece era accords with the arabs, yes, you've seen got cut out on how god expressed the actual genuine absolute support and siding with the palestinian people and the rights governments can do with that

. they could be attack on the synagogue a condemned the attack on the so a lot of people, what, what did you be the out? what, what data people have shown it during the world cup is a, is, is an example of where the region is. now there are some transaction and politics, you know, that we have expressed our opinion that these accords did not serve the cause of peace. it broke away from dub consensus. that normalization should be an incentive and an outcome for peace, not an entry for it. and what we want from has happened because since the signing of these accords things have become more horrific and more horrible. doubling of the settlement activities. all that happened in the last 2 years on the record, the highest number of constant in killed. ha, susanna didn't tell us sublet. thank you very much, both. tom, thanks for being a complex. you're most welcome. ah

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