i mean, the facts of climate change, i mean, phil called wired for a station in the rain forest, continued carbon dioxide emissions have risen again. young people all over the world are committed to climate protection. what impact will because change doesn't happen on its own. make up your room, mind it d. w. need for mines with some of the worst violence in years is broken out between israelis and palestinians at its height last week, a palestinian attack outside the synagogue left 7 people dead unprovoked widespread condemnation including from the arab world. a day earlier israeli forces are rated the janine refugee camp and the occupied west bank. 10 people died. most of them

reported to be government. on a visit to israel, u. s. secretary of state anthony, blinking called on both sides to come tensions and said a 2 state solution was the only way to end the conflict. my guest this week is the head of the palestinian mission to the u. k. or some som lot. does he believe that's possible? we see no approach to achieve that, but does the palestinian leadership have the authority among its own people to negotiate with israel and unite the different factions? why the never ending allegations of brutality and corruption it's rags? isn't it time for a new leader who can the trust of his people and the outside world for some dobler? welcome to communism. thank you. where is all this violence leading? all this violence is absolutely leading to one fact that until a new palestinian generation is born free of occupation colonization and the part

time. and no matter how more is there any possibility we'll be more brutality, moral pressure, no matter international complicity, nothing will change until that is achieved. what can stop it this violent killing? now this current phase of violence, what can stop one of the main reasons why people are losing their lives because for many years we have been talking about 2 side, the csm. for many years we have been talking about negotiations and peace processes . for many years. we have drawn the wrong parallels between the occupied and occupier of the colonizer the colonizer, for many years we receive you, us secretary of states and presidents mediators, without addressing the real issues for money as we are hearing the statements that the us and europe and the u k. as with the 2 state solution. now the secretary blinking calls for equal measures of freedom of opportunity, of dignity and securities. if you're calling for the new state solutions than he

has, what is your response to that? without any approach, we see no approach to achieve that. where's your place where you are and are usually that and when you're a punch or some kind of still in understanding and people have been subjected to a 100 years since the bank for a declaration, promising our land without consulting us. until today, we are living on our land. we are resilient and resisting all the legalities and we are growing. we have our universities and professors, and poems. and where are we? we have would stood all the pressure and we are that to defend our rights and our rights now are enshrined and international consensus. from the time of the beginning of zionism when started to say that there are, there is no such thing as palestinian people to today were you have in the united edition the tag of the state of palestine like we have gone back with the parent that will happen back process mister zum let the palestinian attack last friday outside the synagogue on the outskirts of jerusalem. promote outrage around the world, including including among many arab countries in the past,

the palestinian authorities condemned attacks on civilians. why not this? let's talk about that. why not this time? let's talk about that. ok. every human loss is a tragedy. and you know very well to and fro the earth that our strategy has been a non violent, popular resistance reverting to international traditional system and international institutions. the saw strategy. but let's talk about so what are you saying that it's out of control the violent let's talk about the annual side is out of control . let's. let's talk about that. no. the, the sole responsibility of that incident that you talk about is on israel's government. while it doesn't seem as on, that's to say, i don't see that. so that's why i accept your invitation to come and to tell the world the truth as it is. the truth is, is really government since illegally. it's a war crime, it's citizens to illegal saturn mass. now they are cool. is an illegal settlement in the occupied east jerusalem. the former responsibility of what happened lies

squarely on the government that since the civilians to commit acts of war crimes and illegal, okay, you can say you do not say and why you keep saying it's their responsibility for the last 10 months that been plenty of warnings of out of worsening security issues in sure. okay. can i, can i get with, can i finish the question by november the u. n. set the conflict was reaching boiling point. did no one take any notice how hard did the palestinian authority try to stop this particular phase of via the ha ha, the heart of this. what did they do until they do one major thing is to be so religious about international law is to be so principal, the lot international and the use of international legal system. we voted this to the international criminal court because we want to establish accountability. and we only last month asked for an advisory opinion of the international court of justice. that's the highest international legal system to create accountability

because it is the lack of accountability that has gotten us to where we are today with this most formright fanatics of government in his own guess what them. and this is the real discussion who blocks us from going to these international tradition organs. it's the united states vote against us. it's the united. you won't have a way you went and you, when you went anyway, we'll keep our anyway. but you know what international rules and lou is distant when it comes and applied to your friend. and there is the west where it has been feeling for all these years. when it comes to ezra and, and compare that to ukraine. by the way, when it comes to israel, israel is always shielded by the west, shielded by the u. s. and the okay from our i don't know that mr. or mrs. are only accountability. this is the hot exam lot. there haven't been any meaningful peace talks for almost 10 years. how do you emerge from this un ending cycle of blame and violence? jewish israelis think they are the exclusive victims in this conflict. palestinians

say they're the victims. you're a diplomat. how can you help move the discussion on from this point me principal, by a stop wasting time by really addressing the real suffering of the people. our people has been under aggression for a 100 years started in this. i don't, i concrete term, a new president mahmoud abbas said last year. he had no choice but to deal with benjamin netanyahu. is that still the case? and if so, what kind of dealings is he going to have with mr. newton? yeah, or talk concrete contract can get mr. nathan here who will not be with us. we have no partner in this early site, mr. nathan, yahoo, that's what he says and, and that's what he does. also, mr. natalia has formed the government, the 1st sentence of the agreement of the coalition only few weeks ago is that this government will commit to the land of israel from that over to the sea and the will accelerate the colonization occupied westbank here. you have it right in front of everybody hitting you in the face of the whole world. there's government does not

only not commit to the 2 state solution, but will actively seek to destroy it to dismantle a water netanyahu. is that right? you dismissed him a long time ago. in the past you said he was someone who was very extreme in every sense. he said you are, you have a dream. and that dream is that we palestinians vanished and simply ceased to exist . this is what you say about my son. so you are, you know, we're not going to have any context. we dismiss you aren't going to try this this, this, this, this person, this man one the 1st election in 1997, just few months after i've been was assassinated. mine is a new and this person one on the ticket that he will detail the awful piece process, the really the whole 2 steps solution. and he brags about that, and he is so happy saying every morning and every evening that he has devastated the international consensus about the toaster solutions. so deal with home on what grounds on what grounds. this is exactly how we started this discussion. we need to

focus on the real issues, and the real issues is the lack of accountability that will bring and different leaders. and there's, or there's really people feel a sense of impunity and no consequences, no cost associated with all these illegalities. and therefore, and therefore they will know, seeing these fanatics like been via and smoking was, i'm not to the americans. the real deal is the 2 state solution. no question. moving forward on that. absolutely not in your eyes. of course, this is our, our, our platform. since 1988, we have fully recognized the 2 state solution allied our since completely with international resolutions and new even recognize the state of israel on the 1960 people, your people aren't supporting it any last week. palestinian center for policy and research showed 2 thirds of palestinians are against it. as well as 53 percent of israelis haven't got to charge. but they're not against us because they don't want

to see the military occupation ending that because 967. okay, i can't finish. well, what i'll do another against that because they don't want the freedom and independence and liberty and that territory with each of them as the capital of punish, not against this because they don't want to see refugees return to their properties and homes that are against it. because they believe it's not possible they are against it now, because it's a protest vote to say that we see no international action in this direction. we soon we see no. is there any constituency pushing in that direction? and why should we endorse it? of course, that's how the action do palestinians, ordinary palestinians, even listen and the more to, to you to the leaders. in fact, the new militant groups in the west bank no longer listen to the authority. the novelist brigade, the, to best brigade, the lines, then they're all outside your control. when people are people they follow their guts. and you know, we, we are we,

this of the palestinian side has been the only side committed to the also provisions for a long time. actually it has to overstate its will come our commitment for a long time until only last week. you just embed security actually again, many times you've done the security code division was meant to stop illegal. it is, was meant to stop the invasions and the raids was meant to provide, provide protection, talk to our people, security coordination was meant to back role occupation, security, coordination was meant to be a corner stone and building our st. it that is no longer holding. and that's why it stopped and it can only resume or be resume once it is part of liberation. not part of continuing the starter school as it has been using it and not only and the security sphere. in every sphere, these really mentality must change the palestinian national institutions or to achieve our national rights either to be subjected and unsolved to the palestinian people. they need to understand that,

let's talk about the palestinian national institutions hasn't, hasn't the palestinian authority itself become responsible for holding back progress last year that tony blair institute for global change want of what it called a deepening crisis in palestinian politics and a breakdown of the palestinian leadership that's lead the posting cause and it standing to go backwards. that's right, isn't it? the blue institute conceal whatever it's once they're not the only way they can say whatever they want. we have national institutions. we have the palestine liberation organization. the final present, the or the london. my office is the p. a law representative officer. then i have to take them. i headed the p, a law office in washington, the world recognize the palestine liberation organization. as the umbrella organization, we have all the palestinian political factions represented in that umbrella organization except hamas. there is a process of dialogue right now to include every one. but the p. a law remains to be the representative of the palestinian people. there is an internal elections and

that we need to improve it. that is a huge room of improvement. we are locked saints and under the most adverse circumstances, no one should expect us to act like st. yet we need to deliver some sort of institutional setting and democracy that our people deserve and seek. you're talking about getting democracy there haven't been election since 2006 and 74 percent of your p. want muffled a bus to go over your population. that most of your population hasn't even had the chance to vote at all. the palestinian authority is too scared to test itself and with election. so that's not through the parcel authority. again, it's the p a law that runs the shore. the palestinian authority is an organ is a, is an offshoot of the po, yet we are, we have been one of the few in the region to conduct elections as you very well. remember we can, we conducted elections in 20052006. and when the results came out, it was here, london, and berlin and washington who actually completely boycotted the results and sent

shock waves in our system and our ability to conduct our governance. we have issues . we want to convene elections by the way, the source of all, at the mercy husband elections, even yasser arafat. the late years, harper, who knew that he was the father of the nation, had to get the approval of his people and offered himself for elections in 1096. but we have issues, we cannot and will not convene elections according to that is really the definition of elections. elections should start in the occupied is johnson, and we are free about your definition. we have a 17, i've got a president, our best was elected by his people president, our bass was a founder of the national liberation movement. fatter, a fatter according to all bonds still is in the leading of the palestinian a political popularity. if you may, president, our boss is the head of the p,

a law president, our best is not just the, the president of the pants in authority. it's very important to make that distinction. he has that capacity the legitimacy of all these institutions yet. yes, we need to offer the palestinian people the ability to convene elections and we need to for, oh, well we need to sort out as was v to over is jocilan. we have 300000 palestinian jewels filaments. they have the absolute right to actually vote the cost of the vote and decide who the president and who their parliament is. but also we will not allow is especially a lot of problems. it legal it, the overcoat magazine, listen, we will not allow it to pocket jewels and should we not convenient lectures in jerusalem? and we need to make sure that garza the 2000000 besieged and gaza, are fully included in that. and hopefully the answer to you and it must happen yesterday. so there is a process of julia isn't, will egypt? of course, as a major player. but you are absolutely right. elections is over to you and we must

convenient. how does i'm not sure i, we form a top p l o leader said recently of the palestinian authority, the week of the system, the more it closes on itself and the more oppressive it becomes, the future could be peaceful. she said that the longer it takes to see real change, the more probable violence becomes if you don't allow for peaceful democratic ways of transferring power, people will find other means to express themselves. that's a warning from a very senior and very much respected official in yellow. she is, she'll young taking any notes and you leave with a fresh political mandate would change the situation people that she is and that there's your 100 isn't she is she was on the executive committee of the highest funds to the politic construction. that is the piano and miss tells you we ought to visit society is the freedom of expression, the different views. actually there are too much different views and people express that abuse, which is welcome. but 1.21 point there are some. hannah is very genuine. wanting to

make sure that are as intuitions of democrats and we will live up to that. but there are some people who are misusing this to say the palestinians and brought it upon themselves. that because they are not united because they are mismanaged occupations and is continuing to. and the oppression is continually, i'm sorry, we are united as a people from us as the people where the people who we are united, we have political differences between political actions, sat there, sees deliberation strategy in a different way. hammer sees it in a completely opposite way. we are now engaging, but the people of palestine are united and i keep getting engaging ideas. i'm getting to know by a 100 examples of the people's unity from 2021. and this is your are and what happened and the whole part of the nation inside israel itself in the occupied director is in garza outside uniting in one voice. and the same thing repeated. so last week when i read to janine, we are united people. how many times have i heard this and how many times?

is it proven to be untrue? i want to pick you up on something you said earlier. you talked about freedom of speech despite years of promising to improve your human rights records of violations continue. there is no political will to change, is there take torture? the un committee against torture said last august, it was concerned about consistent reports consistent for persons in custody, and both the west bank and gaza, subject to torture, neal treatment you ashamed of that? nobody should be subjected to torture, and we as a nation, are you ashamed? and we as a nation under oppression for all this years should behave in a certain mother that respect human rights. but you are one by one. again, we operate under a very adverse circumstances. some people want us to behave in a certain manner and we should. but we need to remember, we need to remember democracy is incomplete under the boots of a military occupation because they decide if you are on elections in this. and if

you do, then they will arrest those who are running the elections. and if they don't, that is then before they win, or before they're on the artist them off the so you telling me these ratings are responsible for you torturing your own people. and i'm telling you the situation over all cannot be measured or judge according to a standard that you apply on a normal situation. people should never be tortured anywhere, including in palestine that's, that's completely a shifted. but i want to revisit the whole idea of this whole palestinian behavior because there is a school of thought that wants to link or a birthright as in the right of self determination to our behavior. nausea. i want to say we should be here, but should we misbehave? we don't lose our rights. we want you liked a during just artifact that fat to hand hammers and everybody else out of it was, you know, the father of the nation. you. so what these are you, can we stay with us? can we stay with the press? did we will because the present is, is bad enough of course, but the past was away, but did we achieve our rights?

did we conclude that peace process when we are united? so this whole unit thing is an internal palestinian matter that we need to sort it for our own priorities. it has nothing to do with our rights or the engagement with israelis or the international community. why do you keep promising year after year to do something about human rights and then nothing happens. of particular concern has been the case of the civic activist visit, but not who died in detention in 2021 after the arrested and apparently beaten and severely tortured by your hebron preventative security forces. why no accountability for that death, and why do the 13 people who were put on trial allowed out on a 9 day holiday last year from detention? what sort of i, what sort of a found the, i don't know where you get to what sort of revise i don't know where you get your formation from. that incident was absolutely regrets have been rejected by the palestinian people. and there was, it happened, it happened and it was wrong that it happened. so that's why i got way off again,

of course, of course. but then at least we got the all these officers to a court and they were invited all of them accountability happen. but the question i want to be asked is how many it was really settlers about the palestinians over there? that was one incident. one guy lost his life, regrettably, how many palestinians lost their lives over the last year or the last few years. 230 only in 21. it to the highest says the on begun records in palestine. $35.00 says last month, only january 2023. some of them are banned by israeli civilians who are very armed . how many israel have brought to justice? did they bring to justice? the people who burned atman though upshar the you know that the, the person who shot 20 and i, and washers, and, and colleen and hero and the ninety's 1993 battle. goldstein is now worshipped in israel. more than $10000.00 visit him, you see there is a lot of focus on sporadic isolated events and palestine. but there is

a lack of war forecasts on the systematic, chronic lack of accountability, lack of democracy, the presence of apartheid. if you are, if you were a little discussion because there's other, if you weren't israeli officials sitting there, i would be asking you these questions. but i'm asking you about what the palestinians do because you are representing i am of the which i understand you should do more answer, answer me this question. how hard is it to champion the cause of the palestinians around the world these days? it's, it's, it's, it's very inspiring. i feel so prevalent as the owner of my life and i am so inspired. whatever i guar you, lizzie, hoped that you will make progress. come to you. my heart is full of hope. a few see what i see every day. i leave you here and they go to the london school of economics where there are 3 major universities convening a talk for palestine. the london school, the u. c. l and kings come and see the students come and see the generations of the future. i'm sure you've seen what happened to london in 2021. israel attacked alexa

and the shifter a hand in gaza. there were, there were, there were tens of thousands. i did not expect to see that a roar of people. people are people everywhere more than 50 years of occupation. do you think you live to see a 2 state solution? what antony, blinking an independent palestinian state, living side by side with israel, do you think you'll live to see that? oh yes. oh yes. how, how, how will that the, the sport, the trajectory of things are absolutely in our side when israel was established primarily its beginning with this country, there was not even the cognition of our existence in the budget for declaration. 67 words, it says that a spic thing, the religious and civil minorities rights of the minorities. we were 3rd by balfour and the british authorities at the time, minorities with only 7 and religious rights. we have no national rights. my do think things are going your a huge number,

the dying for their cause and their diagnosis. okay. no, no, no, that's not ok that dying because that is a military occupation that the shooting them and killing them. and you and i need to discuss how we stand out there every once you talk on killing of it. but not the only one that begun, we would not recognize as a nation. look up us, you are talking to the policy and ambassador to the u. k. that came after a 100 years of a generation after generation of resistance, our resilience and the revolution. and yes, our father and all that generation that brought us into these chemicals and also about the narrative. when it began, as one was the beacon of democracy for the west, every one of your generation has taken part in our keyboards of israel. israel was celebrated everywhere to the astonished in the international media. it's tarnished and the new generations apiece, abuse accords with the arabs. yes, you've seen cut, cut out on how the world expressed their actual genuine absolute support and siding with the palestinian people and the rights governments can do with that. they could

be attack on the synagogue and condemned the attack on the so i'm talking about the people what, what do we make the, what, what the other people have shown it during the world cup is a, is, is an example of word the region is now there are some transaction and politics here and that we have expressed our opinion that these accords did not serve the cause of peace. it broke away from the consensus that normalization should be an incentive and an outcome for peace, not an entry for it. and what we want from has happened because since the signing of these are chords, things have become more horrific and more horrible. doubling of the settlement activities, all that happened in the last 2 years on the record, the highest number of palestinian hospital didn't tell oh sublet thank you very much both. tom, thanks for being a complex. you're most welcome. ah

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