because my guess this week is that of the palestinian mission to the u. k. persons, i'm not because he believes that's possible. conflict with d w. m. what secrets lie behind these walls discovered new adventures in 360 degrees. and explore fascinating world heritage sites. d w world heritage 360. get out now. b. o. some of the worst violence in years is broken out between israelis and palestinians at its height last week, a palestinian attack outside the synagogue left 7 people dead and provoked white spread condemnation, including from the arab world. a day earlier israeli forces had raided the jeanine refugee camp in the occupied west bank. 10 people died. most of the report it to be

government. on a visit to israel, u. s. secretary of state anthony, blinking called on both sides to come tensions and set the 2 state solution was the only way to end but conflict. my guess this week is the head of the palestinian mission to the u. k. or some sub lot. does he believe that's possible? we see no approach to achieve that, but does the palestinian leadership have the authority among its own people to negotiate with israel and unite the different factions? why the never ending allegations of brutality and corruption it's rags? isn't it time for a new leader who cannot the trust of his people and the outside world for some sober welcome to communism. thank you. where is all this violence leading? all this violence is absolutely leading to one fact that until a new palestinian generation is born free of occupation colonization apartheid.

and no matter how more zoe brutality will be more brutality, more oppression, no matter international complicity, nothing will change until that is achieved. what can stop it? this file and killing. now this current phase of violence. what can stop one of the main reasons why people are losing their lives because for many years we have been talking about 2 side, the csm. for many years we have been talking about negotiations and peace processes . for many years. we have drawn the wrong parallels between the occupy, than the occupier of the colonizer than the colonizer. for many years we receive you, us secretary of states and presidents mediators, without addressing the real issues. for many years, we are hearing the statements that the us and europe and the u. k. as with the 2 state solution. now, the secretary blinking calls for equal measures of freedom of opportunity, of dignity and security. if you're calling for the new state solution less than

yours, what's your response to that without any of what we see nor approach to, to achieve that? where's your friendship? is your usually that unless you're a punch or some kind of still in understanding and people have been subjected to a 100 years since the balfour declaration promising our land without consulting us? until today we are living on our land. we are resilient and resisting all the legalities and we are growing. we have our universities and professors and poems. and where are we? we have would stood all the pressure and we are there to defend our rights. and our rights now are enshrined and international consensus from the time of the beginning of zionism and started to say that there are, there is no such i think as part of studying people to do today were you have in the united edition, the tag of the state of palestine like we have gone back with the present, then we will have back process president. mr. zum land, the palestinian attack last friday outside the synagogue on the outskirts of jerusalem. promote outrage around the world, including employ thing among many era countries. in the past,

the palestinian authorities condemned a tax on unarmed civilians. why not this to? let's talk about that. why not this time? let's talk about that. ok, every human loss is a tragedy. and you know very well to and fro the earth that our strategy has been a non violent, popular resistance reverting to international traditional system and international institutions. the saw strategy. but let's talk about so what are you saying that it's out of control violent? let's talk about the annual time is out of control let's, let's talk about that. no. the, the sole responsibility of that incident that you talk about is on israel's government. the world doesn't say a word, i don't see that. so that's why i accept your invitation to come and to tell the world the truth as it is. the truth is, is really government since illegally. it's a war crime, it's citizens to illegal saturn was now they are cool. is an illegal settlement in the occupied east, jerusalem, the former responsibility of what happened,

lie squarely on the government that since these civilians to commit acts of war crimes and illegal, okay. you can say you do not say and why you keep saying it's their responsibility for the last 10 months. they've been plenty of warnings to find a worsening security center. okay. am i can i can i just with, can i finish the question by november the u. n sent the conflict was reaching boiling point. did no one take any notice how hard did the palestinian authority try to stop this particular phase of via the ha ha the heart of this. what did they do until they do one major thing is to be so religious about international law is to be so principal does not international law and the use of international legal system. we had a voted this to the international criminal court because we want to establish accountability. and we only last month asked for an advisory opinion of the international court of justice. that's the highest international legal system to

create accountability because it is the lack of accountability that has gotten us to where we are today with this most formright fanatics of government in his own guess what them and this is that he of discussion who blocks us from going to these international and tradition organs. it's the united states vote against us. it's the united you wayne county way. you when you, when you went any way. we'll keep our anyway. but you know what? international rules and lou is distant when it comes and applied to your friend, and there is the west where it has been feeling for all this years. what it comes to israel and compare that to ukraine. by the way, when it comes to israel, israel is always shielded by the west, shielded by the u. s. and the okay from our i don't know that mr. mrs. accountability, this is the hot and ready to go out there. haven't been any meaningful peace talks for almost 10 years. how do you emerge from this un ending cycle of blame and violence? jewish israelis think they are the exclusive victims in this conflict. palestinians

say they're the victims. you're a diplomat. how can you help move the discussion on from this point me principal, by a stop wasting time by really addressing the real suffering of the people. our people has been under aggression for a 100 years softer than this. i don't concrete terms. i know it is a new president, not would up, as i said last year, he had no choice but to deal with benjamin netanyahu. is that still the case? and if so, what kind of dealings is he going to have with mr. newton? yeah. or talk concrete, a contract a can get mr. nathan here who will not deal with us. we have no part, not in this early site. mr. nathan, y'all has had what he says and, and that's what he does. also, mister natalia has formed the government. the 1st sentence of the agreement of the coalition only a few weeks ago is that this government will commit to the land of israel from brevard, for the sea, and the will accelerate the colonization in the occupied westberg. here you have it right in front of everybody hitting you in the face of the all this government does

not only not commit to the 2 state solution, but will actively seek to destroy it to dismantle a water netanyahu. is that right? you dismissed him a long time ago. in the past you said he was someone who was very extreme in every sense. he said you are, you have a dream. and that dream is that we palestinians vanished and simply ceased to exist . this is what you say about my son. so you are you, we're not going to have any contact with the semester. you aren't going to try out this this, this, this, this person, this man one, the 1st election in 1997, just few months after robin was assassinated. mine is range. you and this person one on the ticket that he will detail the awful piece process, the really the whole 2 state solution. and he brags about that, and he is so happy saying every morning and every evening that he has devastated the international consensus about the toaster solutions. so deal with home on what grounds on what grounds. this is exactly how we started this discussion. we need to

focus on the real issues, and the real issues is the lack of accountability that will bring and different leaders. and there's really people feel a sense of impunity and no consequences, no cost associated with all these illegalities. and therefore, and therefore they will, you know, seeing these fanatics like been via and smoking it goes on to the americans. the real deal is the 2 state solution. no question. moving forward on that. absolutely not in your eyes. of course, this is our, our, our platform. since 1988, we have fully recognized the 2 state solution allied our since completely with international resolutions and new even recognize the state of israel on the 1960 people, your people aren't supporting it any last week. palestinian center for policy and research showed 2 thirds of palestinians are against it, as well as 53 percent of his railways. haven't got a chance, but they're not against us because they don't want to see the military occupation

ending that because 967. thank finish. well, what i'll do another guess is because they don't want the freedom and independence and liberty and that authority with each of them as the capital of punish that. not against this because they don't want to see refugees return to their properties and homes that are against that because they believe it's not possible. they are against it now because it's a protest vote to say that we see no international action in this direction. we soon we see no, is there any constituency pushing in that direction and why should we endorse it? of course, that's the reaction to palestinians, ordinary palestinians, even listen and the more to to you to the leaders. in fact, the new militant groups in the west bank no longer listen to the authority. the novelist brigade, the, to best brigade, the lines. then they're all outside your control. when people are people, they follow them guts. and you know, if you come, we are we this of the palestinian side

has been the only side committed to the also provisions for a long time. actually, it has to overstate its will come our commitment for a long time until only last week. you just embed security actually again, many times you've done the security code division was meant to stop the illegal. it was meant to stop the invasions and the raids was meant to provide, provide protection, talk to our people, security coordination is meant to back role, occupation, security, coordination was meant to be a corner stone and building our st. it that is no longer holding. and that's why it stopped and it can only resume or be resume once it is part of liberation. not part of continuing the starter school as it has been using it and not only and the security sphere. in every sphere, these really mentality must change the palestinian national institutions or to achieve our national rights either to be subjected and unsub to the palestinian people. they need to understand that. let's talk about the palestinian national

institutions hasn't, hasn't the palestinian authority itself become responsible for holding back progress last year that tony blair institute for global change want of what it called a deepening crisis in palestinian politics and a breakdown of the palestinian leadership that's lead the posting cause and it standing to go backwards. that's right, isn't it? the blue institute conceal whatever it once they're not the only way they can say whatever they want. we have national institutions. we have the palestine liberation organization, the fire presently in london. my office is the p a law representative officer, then i have to take them. i headed the p, a law office in washington, the world recognize the palestine liberation organization. as the umbrella organization, we have all palestinian political factions represented in that umbrella organization except hamas. there is a process of dialogue right now to include every one, but the p a law remains to be the representative of the palestinian people. there

is an internal elections and that we need to improve it. that is a huge room of improvement. we are locked saints and under the most adverse circumstances, no one should expect us to act like st. yet, we need to deliver some sort of institutional setting and democracy that our people deserve and seek. you're talking about getting democracy. they haven't been election since 2006 and 74 percent of your p. want muffled a bus to go over your population that most of your population hasn't even had the chance to vote to toll the palestinian authority is too scared to test itself and with election. so it's not through the parcel authority. again, it's the p a law that runs the shore. the palestinian authority is an organ is a, is an offshoot of the po, yet we are, we have been one of the few in the region to conduct elections as you very well. remember we can, we conducted elections in 20052006. and when the results came out, it was here, london, and berlin and washington who actually completely boycotted the results and sent

shock waves in our system and our ability to conduct our governance. we have issues . we want to convene elections by the way, the source of all of the messy husband elections, even yasser arafat. lithia, harper, who knew that he was the father of the nation, had to get the approval of his people and offered himself for elections in 1096. but we have issues, we cannot and will not convene elections according to that is really the definition of elections. elections should start in the occupied his johnson and we are free about your definition. we have a 17 month with us is 17 years a president, our best was elected by his people. president, our boss was a founder of the national liberation movement. fatter, a fatter according to all bonds still is in the leading of the palestinian a political popularity. if you me, president, our boss is the head of the p,

a law president, our best is not just the, the president of the pension authority, it's very important to make that distinction. he has that capacity the legitimacy of all these institutions yet. yes, we need to offer the palestinian people the ability to convene elections and we need to for time when we need to sort out as was v to over is jocilan. we have 300000 palestinian jewels filaments. they have the absolute right to actually vote the cost of the vote and decide who the president and who the parliament is. but also we will not allow is especially in light of prompts it legality, overcoat, magazine. listen, we will not allow it to pocket jewels, and should we not convene elections in jerusalem? and we need to make sure that garza the 2000000 besieged and gaza are fully included in that. and hopefully the answer to you and it must happen yesterday. so there is a process of julia isn't. will egypt of course, is a major player, but you are absolutely right. elections is over to you and we must convenient. how

does i'm not sure i will form a top p l o leader said recently of the palestinian authority, the week of the system, the more it closes in on itself and the more oppressive it becomes, the future could be peaceful. she said that the longer it takes to see real change, the more probable violence becomes if you don't allow for peaceful democratic ways of transferring power, people will find other means to express themselves. that's a warning from a very senior and very much respected official pillow. she is, she'll young taking any notes and you leave with a fresh political monday would change the situation. people that she is and that there's your 100 isn't she is she was on the executive committee of the highest funds to the political structure. that is the piano and miss tells you we all of it . society is the freedom of expression, the different views. actually there are too much different views and people express that abuse, which is welcome. but 1 point, one point there are some, hannah is very genuine, wanting to make sure that our situations of democratic and we will live up to that

. but there are some people who are misusing this to say the palestinians and brought it upon themselves. that because they are not united because they are mismanaged occupations and is continuing to. and the oppression is continually, i'm sorry, we are united as a people from us as the people where the people who we are united. we have political differences between political sections such as seas deliberations for you in a different way. sees it in a completely opposite way. we all know engaging, but the people of by this time are united and i can get an engaging, you know, getting exempt as of the people unity from 2021 and this year on what happened and the whole palestinian nation inside is right in the occupied territories in gaza outside you lighting in one voice and the same thing repeated since last week when it's janine, we are united people. how many of i heard this and how many times?

is it proven to be untrue? i want to pick you up on something you said earlier, you talked about freedom of speech despite 2 years of promising to improve your human rights records of violations continue. there is no political will to changes that take torture. the un committee against torture said last august, it was concerned about consistent reports consistent with the persons in custody, and both the west bank and gaza, subject to torture and ill treatment. you shame to that? well, nobody should be subjected to torture. and we as a nation, and are you ashamed of? and we as a nation under oppression for all these years should behave in a certain manner that respect human rights. because you don't, you don't one by what? again, we operate under very adverse circumstances. some people want us to behave in a certain manner and we shouldn't. but we need to remember, we need to remember democracy is incomplete under the boots of a military occupation because they decide if you are on elections in this. and if

you do, then they will arrest those who are running the elections. and if they don't, that is then before they win or before they're on the other them after. so you telling me the israelis responsible for you torturing your own people? and i'm telling you the situation over all cannot be measured or judge according to our standard that you apply on a normal situation. people should never be tortured anywhere, including in palestine that's, that's completely a reject it. but i want to revisit the whole idea of this whole palestinian behavior because there is a school of thought that wants to link or a birthright as in the right of self determination or behavior. no say i want to say we should be here, but should we misbehave? we don't lose our rights. we want to united unit gets out of that fat to hand hammers and everybody else on a fire was you know, the father of the nation. you. so what these are you, can we stay with there? not a lot of camrys that were the press did we will because the present is, is bad enough of course, but the past was away, but did we achieve our rights?

did we conclude the peace process when we are united? so this whole unit to thing is that internal palestinian matter that we need to sort it for our own priorities. it has nothing to do with our rights or the engagement with these ladies. all international community. why do you keep promising year after year to do something about human rights and then nothing happens. of particular concern has been the case of the civic activist visit by not who died in detention in 2021 after the arrested and apparently beaten and severely tortured by your head brung preventative security forces. why no accountability for that death, and why do the 13 people who were put on trial allowed out on the 9th day holiday last year from detention? i was a lot of, i got sort of a found the i don't know where you get to what sort of revise i don't know what you get on for formation from that incident was absolutely regulator been rejected by the palestinian people and there was it happen it happened and it was wrong that had happened. so that's why i got way of aggression, of course,

of course. but then at least we got the all these officers to a court and they were invited all of them accountability happen. but the question i want to be asked is how many it was really settlers about tank, the furnace that he has over there? that was one incident. one guy lost his life regrettably, how many palestinians lost their lives over the last year or the last few years. 230 only in 2022. the highest says the on begun record in palestine. $35.00 says last month, only january 2023. some of them are gone by israeli civilians who are very armed. how many israel have brought to justice? did they bring to justice? the people who burned am though upshar the you know that the person who shot 29 worshippers and colleen and hero in the ninety's 1993 battle goldstein is now worshipped in israel. more than $10000.00 and visit him. you see there is a lot of focus on sporadic isolated events in palestine, but there is

a lack of war forecast on the systematic, chronic lack of accountability, lack of democracy, the presence of apartheid. if you are, if you were the discussion because of the if you were israeli officials sitting there, i would be asking you these questions. but i'm asking you about what the palestinians do because you want to represent the, which i understand you should do more answer. answer me this question. how hard is it to champion the cause of the palestinians around the world these days? it's, it's, it's, it's very inspiring. i feel so prevalent. it is the owner of my life and i am so inspired. whatever i guar you, lizzie, hopefully she will make progress. come see my heart, it's full of hope. a few see what i see every day. i leave you here and they go to the london school of economics where there are 3 major universities convening a talk for palestine. the london school, the u. c. l and kings come and see the students come and see the generations of the future. i'm sure you've seen what happened to london and 2021 on israel,

attacked alexa and the shifter. hunting garza, there were there were, there were tens of thousands. i did not expect to see that a roar of people. people are people everywhere more than 50 years of occupation. do you think you live to see a 2 state solution? what antony, blinking an independent palestinian state, living side by side with israel, do you think you'll live to see that? oh yes. oh yes. how. how, how will that cover that the, the sport that the trajectory of things are absolutely in our side when israel was established, primarily it's beginning with this country. there was not even the cognition of our existence in the band for declaration. 67 words. it says, respecting the religious and civil minorities rights of the minority. we were 3rd by balfour and the british authorities at the time, minorities with only 7 and religious rights. we have no national rights. why do you think things are going your way? marseilles was huge numbers. they're dying for their cause and their diagnosis.

okay. no, no, no, that's not okay. that's fine because that is a military occupation that the shooting them and killing them. and you and i need to discuss how we started out there every once you talk on killing of it, but not the only one that begun, we will not recognize as a nation. look up us, you are talking to the policy and ambassador to the u. k. that came after a 100 years of a generation after generation of resistance, our resilience and the revolution and yes, are apart and all that generation that brought us here to discuss with them. and also about the narrative. when it began, as one was the beacon of democracy for the west, every one of your generation has taken part in our keyboards of israel, as i was celebrated everywhere to the as i, as thought in the international media. it's tarnished and the new generations apiece, obese accords with the arabs. yes, yes. you've seen cut, cut out on how god expressed their actual genuine absolute support and citing with the palestinian people and the rights governments can do it that they could be

attack on the synagogue and conduct the attack on the so i'm talking about other people. what wonderfully maybe out, what, what data people have shown during the world cup is, is, is an example of where the region is. now there are some transaction and politics, you know, that we have expressed our opinion that these accords did not serve the cause of peace. it broke away from down up consensus. that normalization should be an incentive and an outcome for peace, not an entry for it. and what we want from has happened because of the signing of these records. things have become more horrific and more horrible. doubling of the settlement activities, all that happened in the last 2 years on the record, the highest number of palestinian killed us examined, didn't tell us sublet. thank you very much, both. tom, thanks for being a complex. you're most welcome. ah

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