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10th on d w. ah, ah, not a major decision with clear eyes, i will not send another generation america to warn afghanistan. when america withdrew its troops from its longest overseas war in afghanistan, the country was left in chaos. so how this whole area is under taliban control? our administration is fully functional. each and every department is working well. bod. oh, we were completely 100 percent lost when it came to the politics of the fight who were actually fighting. and then what the in game was on the war on terrorism can still be found in america. do

10 percent of the people arrested for violence. criminal activity at the u. s. capital has either current or former military experience. ah ah ah ah

ah, i was born on the bomb, has it on monday, be both hands out loud. jojo, great, now with on september the 11th 2001, al qaeda attacked the twin towers in new york. in response, george w. bush started the operation enduring freedom in afghanistan. the search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. i've directed the 4 resources of

our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. for summer, been lanton was hunted and eventually killed in an operation led by the u ass. over time the u. s. added objectives like nation building to its plans for afghanistan. but the taliban are experts at guerrilla warfare. they continue to operate from the countries south and impeded progress as with gold in the crossfire was afghanistan civilian population. more than $100000.00 people were killed either by us bombing campaigns or by taliban revenge attacks of a kid that off with in

2020, with more than one trillion dollars spent, the u. s. decided to seek a political solution with afghanistan. then president donald trump signed a peace deal with the taliban for a transfer of power. his successor, president joe biden upheld the decision to withdraw us troops are made a decision with clears after 20 years. a trillion dollars spent training and equipping hundreds of thousands of afghan as security in defense forces. i will not send another generation america to warn afghanistan with no reasonable expert achieving

the different outcome. in july 2021, the center of us military operations in bank graham was swiftly evacuated. afghanistan's national army founded south put to the test. after 2 decades. it would now have to defend the country by itself. and it lacked proper training and how to counter guerilla warfare without us as support. emboldened the taliban launched a $75000.00 strong offensive across the country. the african army quickly faltered. many unit surrendered without a fight. so this whole area is under taliban control and our administration is fully functional. each and every department is working well according to summer ponds. a large number of the

600000 american weapons, 75000 vehicles and 200 airplanes fell into taliban. the collapse, deeply shocked american war veterans who had served in afghanistan, keeping with american traditions the afghans would give us little scary as we left was from 2009. this jason dempsey is a former army major who served in afghanistan for nearly 2 years. during his 2009 deployment, he fought the taliban in kona voc caused and packed the provinces in eastern afghanistan with dana span in 2009. we were very good at targeting hunting and killing, but we were completely 100 percent lost when it came to the politics of the fight who we were actually fighting. and then what the in game was, there's

a lot of morphing between well, is the priority al qaeda or is our new enemy? you know, is, are sworn forever, enemy, now the taliban, we just paint them all with one broad brush. they were the enemy, those easiest thing to do, and then count to success as taking the fight to them without ever thinking about, well, why do they keep coming? well i say ha, during his 2nd talk, jason dempsey was an advisor to the afghan military. his job was to train them to fight against the taliban. bought the 6 call of the afghan army, none but fewer than $300000.00 soldiers in total. and they were spread across a vast expanse. they received, you asked support in the form of an power and intelligence.

one of the biggest mistakes we made is we said, well, we're going to create an army, looks like us. and what we're doing was we're creating a national army for a nation that simply didn't exist. there are a lot of things that make our army effective, impossible things like effective bureaucracies, the rule of law, black, a sectarian violence literacy, a force that's able to adapt and learn and use a lot of different technologies. those things don't exist in afghanistan. the fight against the taliban exposed the chronic corruption and mismanagement of then president ashcroft gone. his government right more than $300000000.00 per year went to paying salaries of afghan security, full staff members who didn't exist. in fact, according to one investigation,

untruth numbers were as low as 50000 when the taliban took cobble. currently, afghanistan is one of the 10 most corrupt countries in the world. we blame the afghans for siphoning off money and acting corrupt. and it's a bit of arrogance, a thing that we in the exact same situation wouldn't say the same thing that you don't just get at people, people everywhere. that's, you know, that was a one time part of our understanding of american exceptionalism. now american exceptionalism is as fantasy that somehow we have a perfect life. we can export that to everybody just by dictate and not actually the hard work, ah low morale, coupled with the abrupt withdrawal of us support like to widespread desertion within the afghan army.

with the taliban will also equate to use diplomacy. instruct deals with afghan military commanders knows one of the hardest things about fighting the taliban is, you know, they were people's brothers cousins, uncles, you know, distant relatives, young people who shared the same background and ethnicity. and when we turn them into the enemy, right? that not the enemy to negotiate with or work with or try to bring in the full but the enemy that must be decisively defeated. you know, we bought ourselves a really long war when we kind of made that our focus

as you as contract as withdrew the afghan army lost the logistical support i had provided. i does american troops left the afghan air force found itself with no reliable mechanism in place to stay avalon, i thought my one thought, oh no, no, no, i got there. the taliban, on the other hand, had the advantage of experience. their advance across the country was both tactical and measured within days more than 80 percent of the country's highways while under their control cutting off the afghan army supply routes. they've built this thing that simply cannot exist without us pouring billions and ours. and having folks standing behind and supporting them with maintenance and contracting, logistical, and air support and air power. and we've built a complete fantasy of the military for afghanistan. who conundrum was so

long as we're there and along were poor and billions, ours. and that it directly under cut in many ways the political legitimacy of the central government and the forces outside cuz they were seen as both puppets and they were seen as wildly corrupt. exactly 20 years after 911. but tana van one full control over afghanistan, currently the future of the country is unknown. over in america, the after effects of the wall will continue to haunt veterans for years to come. some 7000 you as military service members were killed in battle in iraq and afghanistan, these wars may have come to an end, but their human cost continues even with troops back home in the u. s.

those who survived the war and now battling on another front more than 30000 war on terror, veterans have taken their own lives around 4 times as many as died in iraq and afghanistan. now it's a suicide pandemic. that is devastated veteran families and communities. ah thomas ben suit is contributing all for for the costs of wall project. he started suicide rates among service members, and veterans of the post 911 was mm mm to sir said numbers are, are 2nd, serv ranges from 60026400 veterans every year and i buy suicide. that's where you get this. and they would say 17 per day. unfortunately, moral injury feelings of furden some nest to society. issues

like taking on vice behaviors like drinking drug use, dangerous behaviors. all of these things can contribute to rising suicide rates. by 2030 veterans suicide will account for more than $221000000000.00 in public costs. 42 percent voting of because a know that we're in war and you come back to that you sacrifice to live near identity to protect these people. they don't know, they did that sacrifice at all. they don't honor that sacrifice crates, you know, since isolation, alienation the year to serve it, please that distance. i've been talking about the pandemic and the availability of guns in the u. s. r. father compounding factors, 17 veterans

a day dying from suicide. the majority from self inflicted firearm injuries. ah, ah. wylie gray, served in the marines as ammunition chief in helmand province for 9 months in 2008 . and the rank of staff sergeant. he survived to deployments in support of america's war on terror and ended with acute post traumatic stress disorder. my own story was one where i felt like i was doing something patriotic until the moment i was in afghanistan. and i realized these people are in a threat to america is a tribal human beings living with basically nothing wire, afghanistan and iran. can someone explain it? i've been asking that for years it's, it's a rapid answer,

whereas iraq and it's paid for blood a i got to the point where i remember having my grandfather's pistol. is there any special back at the stairs right now? and i just decided i'm going to kill myself. i'm done. i've had this deployment long enough. i've taken enough suffering. and i think i'm done. and man, i remember feeling good after going to my conclusion, i remember the palpable fence of appointments going to end soon dropped. but while decided to see count the girl, he flew to peru to live with a tribe in the amazon there. he received individual therapy in combination with a locally prepared brew made with rain forest plants. this helped him to reset his

mental defense mechanisms. while he was able to sleep again and gradually come to terms with his trauma. i felt for the 1st time in my life, a sense of being whole. it was absolutely transformational. and when i was in ceremony, one of the last times i saw 2 people that i know other veterans next to me in ceremony. they weren't really there. but that's when i saw my visions and they were laughing and they were smiling and they were happy. and i knew it was because they found something just like i had he turned his trauma into a mission to help us find tools for recovery. wiley founded veterans of war and advocates for using plant medicine to heal trauma

but the war on terror has also inflicted deep physical wounds on many veterans. an estimated 3500000 veterans have been exposed to toxic substances in post 911 deployment. among them. leroy torres, the term, what do you feel coming i pressure my leroy was deployed at the u. s. air base ballade in iraq when his symptoms started to show air. well they are helping ballade had the largest burn pit and theater in iraq. there was approximately 10 acres in diameter and everything that was still in the trash was,

was burned down with j. p a fuel and burned from plastic bottles styrofoam. from the ballade hospital they would burn medical waste body parts of the equipment, the name it. everything was being burned so that there really took it all. leroy torres returned to texas in 2010. at 1st he was diagnosed with constructive bronchitis, a chronic lung disease. then in 2018, he was diagnosed with toxic brain injury. my disability, my state medical ratoma was denied never in right. while his james and i thought that i, we going through this hardship where i was worried about in shot or maybe lose. lemme urges id,

but never that across my that would have to deal with something that i would be facing. an invisible enemy is part of the war. the follow me home. this is the actual picture my lungs. and you can see either the inflammation here and all this right here. i said this is a reversible is a condition you have to deal with the resi season. lee, 4 year old, our resume in there are 85000 veterans who have sought treatment, but illnesses possibly tied to burn pitts. this is a fraction of the 3500000 service members believe to have been exposed to toxic substances around 75 percent of veterans bound pit planes have been rejected to date leroy and his wife started the non profit group,

burn pits, 360 to help other veterans suffering from internal war injuries. they built the warrior support santa in texas, which offer services to veterans in the area. if we don't have time, people to day and time is, the one thing is tight. so we'll wait pass. it's one year more of the one that should then address it's, it's sort of criminal. the deed, it seems to be selling the way they have. it continues in science against us. i mean, i think the recent action that's happened is only because we've had people like johnny comedian and activists. john stewart joined them to voice his support for legislation to camp veterans who have suffered toxic exposure.

afghanistan, war veteran tom puerto is helping them in washington. d. c, to illustrate how, how diverse these exposures are, for example, um and cobble quotes save over a 1000000 people but without a modern sewer system. so you've got airborne feces blows around there and you're breathing. that's what i breathed every day. and then you've got the diesel generators of power. all of our operations are, they're probably half the size of this room. and they're belching black smoke and service members or breathing that every day in may 2021. the burn pants team went to washington. d. c. they demanded the inclusion of 23 respiratory illnesses on the list of conditions, the qualified veterans for v,

a benefits. and how can we need a presumption of the various cancers and a respiratory illnesses. and i'm, you know, division a disorders and lymphomas that are occurring in the veterans population for all these talk exposures. defense contractors can view the u. s. congress as willie walkers chocolate factory. while veterans, you're back there like oliver, with a bowl group. asking please, sir, may i have some more? the pact act bill was passed by the senate on august the 2nd 2022, and signed into law by president biden on august the 10th. ah

ah, it's a small ray of hope for leroy who's been waiting for nearly a decade to get his injury claims approved and some veterans are getting disillusioned. they feel the u. s. government is giving more attention to bringing african refugees into the country. you both america's war on terror in afghanistan and iraq came to a close opted 20 long years. it's made your goal was to ensure that americas external enemies lose the ability to plot plan and execute another $911.00. but what about america's domestic security situation? some experts say spikes and domestic white supremacist activism have regularly

followed the closure of major military hostilities or after the withdrawal from vietnam and the 1st gulf war. in the late ninety's white power groups tried to recruit active duty soldiers, reservists, and veterans to form militias. lou, these extremist white groups found political legitimacy with the arrival of donald trump and an electro campaign that deeply polarized the country. how do you come up with that decision? donald trump, they say donald trump has off his the vitamin lation will. because all this, he got the by didn't the he's revealing what's already there. does the vision has already been been there for years in 2020 american society was more politically divided than ever. when donald trump

went up against joe fife in the presidential election. i should add this crucial on the radio. you know, you can identify yourself. it, chris hel, served as a marine from 1994 to 1998 in hawaii. he has strong views about immigration and fears. immigrants will take over the united states and by the end of the century by the 2099, will have 500000000 people. and the increase of about 200000000 will probably be from illegal immigration, and descendants of illegal immigration. stepping off

1st, 2nd squad, got sick with nothing. here donald trump stood for america 1st make america great. again, america 1st, annuity is process law processes. but where people should have more money. so that to me is that's my were the rally cries that i have in addition to the unsurmountable dead, but i'm worried what country and it is being, am overwhelmed and flooded with welfare and illegal immigration and to the tune of over 20, trained 1000 dead. and you, it was just gonna collapse under is on, on wait. some estimates such asked veterans like chris

hill now make up at least 25 percent of militia rosters in the united states. yes, so back in 2009, when i wrote the i'm now the tories department homeland security, right? we extreme as a report, i did have a little section in there that talked about returning veterans and how they could potentially be recruited by these, you know, right, we extremist groups to boost the violent capabilities of these groups and help them train and, and, you know, perfect their skills. ok. so one of the ways that the recruit online is through websites, twitter accounts. they even have the online communities that are private, ready, read, read a move and boom. i am why i am prior military. i am christian.

i am a 2nd amendment through z as in now supposedly on the chair is not a want to risk go to jail and getting charged with a bunch of crap and ruining my life. but i'm a mad enough mad as hale, i can't take it anymore. and i'm going to exercise madame raj everywhere in this country that i go, oh, shoot across you move. okay. moving low. in 2021. a video was published online in which chris hel ria to write it this message. the website has since been taken down in the video hill discussed why it was important to overthrow the united states of meant by violence if necessary. his video was published a few weeks after the january. the 6th terror attack and white rioters descended on capitol hill. a joint session of congress had gathered that day to certify the victory of joe biden. in the 2020 u. s. l actions, but the trump supporters had other plans they to update the stop the spill movement

. their aim was to forcibly reinstate donald trump as president of the united states of america. the movement started on facebook in other groups. in fact, it started before it hit those platforms. but shortly after election day, shortly after president trump. i falsely and prematurely claimed that he had won the election, the beliefs that the election was stolen, that democrats reg, the election, install it for president jo body still it from former president. donald trump with widespread voter fraud. we surprised them. we took them by surprise in this year, they rigged it election. they rigged it like they've never rigged it election before. the stop the still movement spread like wildfire on the internet. more and more protest as arrived. as word spread that the vote count was underway. writers over part of washington,

dc police. the officers calls for back up went on hand. and while capitol hill, police struggled alone. the writers supported by serving and former military men broke in to capitol hill. at least 8 points were breached the vastly outnumbered capitol hill, security officials managed to escort members of congress down to the bunker. as night fell back up arrived. and capitol hill was reclaimed. the 10 percent of the people arrested for violence criminal activity at the u. s. capital had either current or former military experience. and so what had the military done very little. it was fine for military members to belong to the militia group military members that it belonged to militia groups such as the 3 per centers that

have committed violent acts against you know, people, police officers, plotted bombings and shootings. despite the arrests chris hill and the 3 percenters in georgia continue their movement. ha, also because of their beliefs about muslim the attacks on the twin time by muslim extremists radically changed the discourse around islam in the us. according to the research institute, the new america foundation 2 in 5 americans believe islam is incompatible with us values. the distrust and hostility towards muslims has caused a rise in atlanta phobic attacks across the country. just one percent of americans are muslims, but 14.5 percent of all hate crimes committed in 2018, but motivated by anti islamic sentiment. according to a us government survey. one reason for his hatred against american muslims is the

impact the war on terror has had on army veterans there's been multiple studies about the rise of islamic phobia. coinciding with returning veterans coming back from the middle east. you know, when the veterans come home, they come back from these board zones where they've been taught and trained and conditioned to believe that people wearing turbans having long beer and having these funny sounding names with brown skin are the threat i as part of a casa for project thomas ben, suit research, the ro christianity played in the us military post $911.00. the military uses christian symbols and sort of ways of talking about um, military service as it would align specifically with the sort of christian narrative. the chaplains in the military are overwhelmingly

white cliffs over over 74 percent. they're overwhelmingly even shall colds over 63 percent and they're of wrongly men at like 95 percent to my fat. and so it ends up being this religious culture that is specifically bright leaning. some veterans perceived both the iraq and afghanistan war as a clash of civilizations. a war between christianity and islam. richard mckinney was inspired by the rambo films and joined the marine corps to be involved in the action. he returned from iraq with a hatred from muslims. i developed a deep hatred for his long over over course of several years. i've been in the

military and having to deal with these people in a harsher climate. maybe i use this for this way to put a harsher existence. i saw it is my position in life to rid the world of his many muslims as i possibly could. and i attend to that was overseas and after i was medically retired because i was in an accident in iraq, back in the us, richard mckinney decided to make up on his plan was to plant his bomb in the atlantic centre of muncie. and then to watch the show as he put it from the parking lot. but the day he wanted to execute this plan, a conversation with his daughter changed the course of his life. for my daughter came home, she asked and i snapped, and i saw the look on my daughter's face. this is somebody who i've

had so much love and admiration for in the course of her life. i can't even begin to describe it. and she looked at me like i was absolutely crazy person, she'd ever seen. and it was kind of like, she was question. her love for that at me are. so i figured the best way to do is make sure that was okay. was go meet the richard mckinney decided to visit the very same islamic center of muncie. the emma gave him the koran to read and they would explain it how i could understand it. and i was like, oh oh, i make sense. you know, so long story short after 8 weeks i went from getting ready to bo, this building up to coming back saying, i want to take so hard. i want to take my decoration phase. his mother,

he on no soul do with a law plays a burden greater than a can bear in the us more than 700 anti muslim incidence had taken place from 2012 to 2018. we had a number of arsons that have happened to mosque here, the united states, many of them unsolved. we've had militia groups protesting against what they perceive as and pending sri, a law that's coming into their communities. that there's this like muslim invasion . but there are also veterans fighting against the rise of anti muslim hate crimes in america have been on. i mean, man. so shan's is known as the muslim marine. he's part of any $4000.00 and was lim, american who served in the us army taking up just 0.3 percent of the military.

hello, who am i to duty? so i was in the middle of my marine corps career that time and when 911 happened, just like most people who lived that day, i remember what was going on and and unfortunately, like when i pay me a lot, days later will be found out that these hijackers happen to be so called for fun and given the firms and others perhaps as well, a very bad reputation. and unfortunately, when the $911.00 attacks happened, essentially 1900 hijackers hijacked the entire phase of $1800000000.00 plus an attack on me over the top of my, my family. when i'd be back my family,

my american family, you know man, so i was born in pakistan and he's a practicing muslim. he has made choices. some that disagree with me. they're part of the muslim community that they can they, they are shot. this isn't a guy who has served the us are forces. i mean, i do get messages from time to time. you know, you know, your muslim killer and you call yourself, i'm not the topic. faith actually requires muslims to be loyal to their country of residence. so that means there was never a conflict of interest when it came to a country to what is out there between my faith and me becoming a united states marine, although he was never deployed overseas man. so i still found to conversation was needed inside america. i started mostly marine

dot org to counter i hate bigotry and his lamb, a phobia through education, conversation and dialog. so being a muslim or being an american my 1st right. and what, according to the ground, that even if the constitution it to be loyal to the country and living it to be contributing to society in a positive way. so when i do that or that we stand on a position of saying, hey, look, i'm contributing in a positive manner, you share a voice that has impact. you're not just coming from the sides, you're coming from within in a positive manner. we're part of them. so when they see you, when you create these dialogues and you sit and you eat together and you talk about these things openly and you create understanding, new people will be inclined towards goodness, i think our faith teachers. there are more good people in this world and i believe that 20 years after 911, the united states is beginning to pick up the pieces from the was an afghan. it's

dawn and iran at man so sharp. i believe there are important lessons for america to learn. and i think america has made some really, really, really bad decisions. you know, when it comes to, when it comes to us war and the way it sells it to the american public. you know, we look at it, iraq mean, over a 1000000, innocent and largely innocent iraqis killed what i mean. they were living, breathing human being just like you were, we need to really reexamine ourselves and we need to apologize. we didn't make up for our mistakes. ah ah ah

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