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and i'd be asking an expert in singapore for his take on that and why the us china competition in the region. ah, i british manager, welcome to the w news. a sure glad you could join us. 2 days after the united states shot down a suspected chinese spy balloon bay ging has accused washington of damaging efforts to stabilize us. china ties, vice foreign minister sheer fung also accused the us of cult indiscriminate use of force. so to down the program, we're looking to answer 2 questions arising out of all this. firstly, what next for bilateral ties between the 2 powers? and 2nd, how is china reacting to increased us and western engagement in asia?

an area beijing considers its own backyard. we'll get to those questions in a minute, but before that, this is what the reaction in china has been to the shooting down of the balloon to you may well as well. i think this is a bit of an embarrassing moment for the americans a meal because the u. s. air force, which prides itself on being the world's leading air force, surprisingly, did not solve this civilian aircraft problem quickly. they drank it out for 3 days . you have, you had your unqualified and yeah, without it, from my perspective, when i think about it, if it were us balloon which had floated to china, we may take similar measures from a personal point of view. it's probably not a big deal. it's understandable, considering that the current international situation is very tense. i think i can understand the reaction from the united states. they will have it on file for any about it. they're making a big fuss about this incident, but it doesn't do any good. it doesn't serve wells,

he's and john is not for more. is blake her singer. he's a nonresident fellow of the american enterprise institute and specializes in europe security cooperation in asia. blake, welcome secretary, blinking gold. it surveillance bloom and dumbed it got a clear violation of sovereignty. what has beijing been able to achieve with this episode? thanks for having the address. well, the department of state and the department defense seem unified in their assessment that this building was intended for their balance over the united states. now, in terms of paging achievements, they've managed to get a high level meeting between secretary lincoln, his counterpart from the chinese mentor and foreign affairs cancelled tensions which are already high or now further inflamed. and it seems that there's not much positive to take home for aging from this episode. but how does that resort further watson divisions in the medical polity as well?

i asked because you hear republicans unhappy. it took a democratic president so long to shoot down a balloon well, so i think that's probably also the route and some of the disclosures in the last day or so about other balloons, traverse parts of the united states. come near the hawaiian islands, guam and, and also in past years we've seen similar chinese blends over japan and our anti one. so what mixed in the bilateral relationship, given that this is a situation when it comes to a t surveillance balloons. well, secretary lincoln certainly love to door open for a future meeting. he said, now it is not the right time, but will post pound not cancel until the time is more conducive for a meeting that we can have that won't be dominated by news of this balloon. and this intrusion into american aerospace but back in november, blake,

when presidents are shooting, being and joe biden met on the sidelines of the g 20 summit. and bali that appeared to be some sort of hope that the 2 powers could cord manage their differences. now that 2nd blanket has postponed his visit, has that hope from bali disappeared, or is it just on hold? i would consider it on hold. i think both sides recognized at some level that current engines are unsustainable. beijing is certainly eager to reduce tensions, honest, periphery and externally, as the deals with multiple crises at home in the united states, doesn't really have an interest in inflaming relations with china just for the sake of an employment relations. now, it is difficult domestically to manage that message. there are certainly parties that are a harder line on china than, than maybe the president or others might like to see. but that's part of, that's part of managing that relationship. and i'm sure this will, this meeting will go forward at the right time. but it certainly is right now.

blake, i'd like to sort of go on to another point that i'd like to discuss with you. because in the week leading up to circuitry blink and visit, you had us defense secretary lloyd austin as well, who was in the region in south korea. and the philippines and china clearly wasn't too happy about it. u. s. defense secretary lloyd aust instead last week touring asia pacific allies and oh my god, welcomed him in soul. when he arrived to bolster the us alliance in the face of rising missile, a nuclear threats from north korea with a new role. the very next, the american and korean pilot stage joint air drills pyongyang said an extreme red

line had been crossed by then. austin was in manila visiting washington's oldest asian ally announcing a deal which grant us access to yet more they are bases in the philippines. part of an effort to push back against chinese aggression, we were a clear to strengthening our mutual capacities to resist armed winter after as part of our efforts to modernize our watch. and these offers are especially important as the people's republic of china continues to advance is legitimate claims in the west. gold and she has counterpart underlined the stakes. visa, of course, we hope the joint on a fake is in line with the guidance of president bergman. marcus, and that these are the best department to make sure that map i'm each of our major

so it will be last. but china lashed out at the u. s. condemning a cold war mentality. she harrington, this is an ancient as glens, tensions in the right, in and in dangerous peace and stability. if you go down to remain neutral and avoid being used by the u. s. you liam. this is a site that will do little to say toby james nerves yen stoughton bag, chief of the north atlantic military pac nieto, meeting with south korean. and japanese leaders recently. his visit to an air base part of a bed to strengthen ties with asian democracies. as fears of a potential conflict between china and taiwan, grew stronger blake, as seen from beijing's point of view, lord austin and young shelton begs visits to the region on exactly confidence building measures that china was perhaps looking forward. you'd be right

in saying that might not be the message that vision wants to hear, but i think it's entirely fair for secretary austin to visit us tree allies and to read forth those relationships. particularly when south korea has been subjected to considerable nuclear threats and threats of preemption from the north end. the philippines is constantly subject to, you know, intimidation at sea, from chinese coast guard and maritime militia vessel. so it's entirely logical for the united states to support its close partners in the region. and that may not be something that is popular in beijing, but that is an element of the united states foreign policy. it won't change. what could this have been avoided given that this was in the week preceding a potential visit by secretary lincoln to china? i wouldn't necessarily consider the thing as linked. first of all, secretary austin's visit to korea is, is a very strong message against the north korean. certainly not in toward basing and

in the philippines. that's, you know, that's furthering an effort that's been going on there in terms of in advance to in cooperation agreement that it's been going on for a decade. and our alliance with the philippines goes back far, far longer than that. now, even if this was a hard message to, to swallow in beijing that does not warrant a violation of our airspace in the united states response. i'd like to talk about nato more specifically because he installed him by wasn't the region. his visit to japan and south korea is nato going to be playing a more active part in the region? no. i wouldn't say so bearish, and in my own opinion, i would say that native interest in asia is always in the interest of countering shared threats. to transcend geography. for instance, dr. national crime. certainly the threat of nuclear use or north korea. these are

in these are of interests, all state they're interested in holding a rules based order. so in that sense, i would say it's further in cooperation that does extend back to the $198990.00 s office all and joe gail. now in terms of nato's recent designation of china, the systemic challenge. now that's, that's something different. that is something where nato was seeking to reinforce some of its service security partners against what they see as a regional threat. but also, china is operating in europe increasingly so. nato cannot afford to completely disassociate itself from what aging is doing militarily, economically and diplomatically. let's talk about the countries in the region. blake. aside from the u. s. street, the allies, japan, south korea, the philippines. there are a number of other countries, particularly amongst our c on who refused to be drawn into picking aside when it comes to competition with china. how do they react to this increased activity in

the region? absolutely, to speaking a state across southeast asia in particular. all those states are very interested in avoiding being drawn into this, you know, this bilateral tension between washington innovation. they both balance, they both hedge say that close to one partner when it, when it is in their interests and the other, you know, other times they need to balance. these 2 interests are getting too close to either or being smashed in the middle. certainly, se, asia has very recent memory of great power competition playing out his backyard. and there's no appetite to be drawn into a 2nd round of that. but i think that is, that's going to be the nature of this region and that they will derive maximum benefit from, from each side to the extent they can add, while also resisting, being drawn into a competing block like relieve it there. thanks so much for joining us, blair housing from the american enterprise institute. thanks so much. thanks.

revenue and china is not confirmed that like the one in the us, another high altitude balloon spotted flying over latin america is in fact chinese . beijing says it was used for flight tests and that it had been caught effected by weather forces, something that caused it to accidentally stray over latin america and the caribbean . the pentagon has claimed these 2 is a surveillance been long, and that's it for today, there's more stories from the region on our website, b, w dot com, forward slash asia. i'm as ever, you can follow us on facebook and twitter back again at the same time tomorrow. so you then, bye bye. ah. reset people the world over d, w on facebook and twitter. up to date and get in touch. follow us. and you live alone. we got a mobile number last, i didn't give it away. it is

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