people and volunteers are going down to the rebels and searching for people even before outside help gets there. so the community's trying, it's best to cope with it and trying to organize funerals for the people found. and it's just chaotic, especially because syria is already divided between government and rebel held area. so if you have a relative in a different area, you can easily travel as well. there's a lot of a political dimension. garcia, thank you very much for coming in and filling us in on the situation. it's good to get someone from syria to tell us about what's going on. thank you and thank you for watching. i've been for solon, i'll see you next hour. your auntie dealt with she azure dashed 2 little kook. interesting. you mouth right? yes. we will send this to the one, mid th and gross must the end of

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calling off his visit to china. what next in the bilateral relationship, i'd be asking an expert and seeing the full for his take on that and why the us china competition in the region. ah. my british manager, welcome to d w. news asia. glad you could join us. 2 days after the united states shot down a suspected chinese spy balloon bay ging has accused washington of damaging efforts to stabilize us. china ties, vice foreign minister ship fung also accused the us of cold, indiscriminate use of force. so to down the program, we're looking to answer 2 questions arising out of all this. firstly, what next for bilateral ties between the 2 powers? and 2nd, how is china reacting to increased us and western engagement in asia?

an area beijing considers its own backyard. we'll get to those questions in a minute, but before that, this is what the reaction in china has been to the shooting down of the balloon to you may graduate. i think this is a bit of an embarrassing moment for the americans a meal because the u. s air force, which prides itself on being the world's leading air force. surprisingly, did not solve this civilian aircraft problem quickly. law they dragged it out for 3 days. you had your on call a fund yet the other day about from my perspective when i think about it, if it were us balloon which had floated to china, we may take similar measures from a personal point of view. it's probably not a big deal. it's understandable, considering that the current international situation is very tense. i think i can understand the reaction from the united states. they were deal for a nearby they're, they're making a big fuss about this incident,

but it doesn't do any good. it doesn't serve wells, he's joining us now for more is blake her singer. he's a non resident fellow at the american enterprise institute and specializes in europe security cooperation in asia. blake, welcome secondary blinkin called it a surveillance balloon and dumbed it got a clear violation of sovereignty. what has beijing been able to achieve with this episode? thanks for having me brush. well, the department of state and the department defense seem unified in their assessment that this building was intended 1st, your balance over the united states. now, in terms of paging achievements, they've managed to get a high level meeting between secretary lincoln, his counterpart from the chinese mentor and foreign affairs cancelled tensions which are already high are now further inflamed. and it seems that there's not much positive to take home for basing from this episode. but how does that sort further,

watson divisions in the medical polity as well? i asked because you hear republicans unhappy. it took a democratic president so long to shoot down a balloon well, so i think that's probably also the root. and some of the disclosures in the last day or so about other balloons, traverse parts of the united states. come near the hawaiian islands, guam, and also, in past years we've seen similar chinese blends over japan and our anti one. so what mixed in the bilateral relationship, given that this is the situation when it comes to at least surveillance balloons. well, secretary lincoln certainly locked the door open for a future meeting. he said, now is not the right time, but will post pound not cancel until the time is more conducive for a meeting that we can have that will be dominated by news of this balloon. and this intrusion into american aerospace but back in november, blake, when president,

so she's being and joe biden met on the sidelines of the g 20 summit. and bali that appeared to be some sort of hope that the 2 powers could cord manage their differences. now the 2nd lincoln has postponed his visit, has that hope from bali disappeared, or is it just on hold? i would consider it on hold. i think both sides recognized at some level that current tensions are unsustainable. beijing. it's certainly eager to reduce tensions on its periphery and externally, as it deals with multiple crises at home. and the united states doesn't really have an interest in inflaming relations with china just for the sake of an inflaming relations. now, it is difficult domestically to manage that message. there are certainly parties that are a harder line on china than, than maybe the president or others might like to see. but that's part of, that's part of managing that relationships. and i'm sure this will,

this meeting will go forward at the right time. but it certainly is right now. blake, i'd like to go on to another point that i'd like to discuss with you. because in the week leading up to circuitry, lincoln's visit, you had us defense secretary lloyd austin as well, who was in the region in south korea. and the philippines and china clearly wasn't too happy about it. u. s. defense secretary lloyd austin, spent last week touring asia pacific allies and oh my god, welcomed him in soul. when he arrived to bolster the u. s. alliance in the face of rising missile, a nuclear threats from north korea. with a row the very next

d american and korean pilot stage joint air drills, pyongyang said an extreme red line had been crossed by then. austin was in manila visiting washington's oldest asian ally, announcing a deal which grant us access to yet to more day or bases in the philippines. part of an effort to push back against chinese aggression. we remain committed to strengthening our mutual capacities to resist armed winter. after our efforts to modernize our watch, these offers are especially important mazda people's republic of china, continues to advance just deal with claims in the west gulping, she has counterpart underline the stakes. visa reports we is we hope, the joint down a fake is in line with the guidance of president bergman, marcus obese apartment. to make sure mark on each of our major

league will be lost. but china lashed out at the u. s. condemning a cold war mentality. chicago cabinet is an ancient as glance tensions in the right in and in dangerous peace and stability. if you go down and remain mitchell and avoid being used by the us force here. leah. this is a site that will do little to say to obey james nerves. yen stoughton back chief of the north atlantic military pac nieto meeting with south korean. and japanese leaders recently, his visit to an air base part of a bed to strengthen ties with asian democracies. as fears of a potential conflict between china and taiwan, grew stronger. blake, as seen from beijing's point of view lord austin onions. shelton begs visits to the region on exactly confidence building measures that china was perhaps looking for.

right. you'd be right and saying that might not be the message that she wants to hear. but i think it's entirely fair for our secretary austin, to visit us tree allies and to read forth those relationships. particularly when south korea has been subjected to considerable nuclear threats and threats of preemption from the north. and the philippines is constantly subject to, you know, intimidation at sea, from chinese coast guard and maritime militia vessel. so it's entirely logical for the united states to support its close partners in the region. and that may not be something that is popular in beijing, but that is an element of the united states foreign policy that won't change. but could this have been avoided given that this was in the week preceding a potential visit by secretary lincoln to china? i wouldn't necessarily consider these things as linked. first of all, secretary austin's visit to korea is, is

a very strong message against the north korean, certainly not in tor, beijing and in the philippines. that's, you know, that's furthering an effort that's been going on there in terms of the enhanced cooperation agreement. we're at good. it's been going on for a decade. and our alliance with the philippines goes back, you know, far, far longer than that. now, even if this was a hard message to, to swallow in beijing that does not warrant a violation of our airspace in the united states response. i'd like to talk about nato more specifically because he ends dalton by was in the region. his visit to japan and south korea is nato going to be playing a more active part in the region? no. i wouldn't say so be rush. and in my own opinion, i would say that native is interest in asia is always in the interest of countering shared threats that, that transcend geography. for instance, trans national crime,

certainly the threats of nuclear use or north korea. these are in these are of interest, all states they're interested in holding a rules based warner. so in that sense, i would say it's further in cooperation that does extend back to the $19990.00 s. both the sol tokyo now in terms of nato's recent designation of china and the systemic challenge. now that's, that's something different. that is something where nato was seeking to reinforce some of its security partners against what they see as a regional threat. but also china is operating in europe increasingly so. the neo cannot afford to completely disassociate itself from what aging is doing militarily, economically and diplomatically. let's talk about the countries in the region. blake. aside from the u. s. treaty allies, japan, south korea, the philippines. there are a number of other countries, particularly amongst us, the on who refused to be drawn into picking aside when it comes to competition with

china. how do they react to this increased activity in the region? absolutely. speaking of states across se, asia, in particular, all those states are very interested in avoiding being drawn into this. you know, there's bilateral tension between washington and aging. they both balance, they both hedge stay close to one partner when it, when it is in their interests and the other, you know, other talk. they need to balance these 2 interests without getting too close to either or being smashed in the middle. certainly, se, asia has very recent memory of, you know, great power competition playing out in the backyard. and there's no appetite to be drawn into a 2nd round of that. but i think that is, that's going to be the nature of this region and that they will derive maximum benefit from, from each side to the extent they can add, while also resisting, being drawn into a competing block leg. relieve that thanks so much for joining us. blair housing

from the american enterprise institute. thanks so much. thanks. revenue and china is not confirmed that like the one in the us, another high altitude balloon spotted flying over latin america is in fact, chinese. beijing says it was used for flight tests and that it had been caught effected by weather forces, something that caused it to accidentally stray over latin medica and the caribbean . the pentagon has claimed these 2 is a surveillance been doing, and that's it for today, there's more stories from the region on our website, b, w dot com, forward slash asia. i'm as ever, you can follow us on facebook and twitter back again at the same time tomorrow. so you then, but algorithms instead of paints and brushes with artificial intelligence is conquering the art world. new technologies are becoming ever more creative. but can they replace

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